the national peace u.n. security council has all the power in the world our big problem is of course whether the different powers of the of the security council will agree to them or the allergies the parameters of an investigation like this and what if what if and it's a saudi arabia would have to do as a result of the investigation and i would assume that. to the extent that they're going there that there might be certain repercussions for saudi arabia that can only be can only be decided once this sort of an international investigation is concluded we there's no point in. conducting an international investigation in the first place if we are already going to start by by punishing countries and you know i do think that and i'm saying that as someone who really thinks that saudi arabia has a lot to come out clean with that but they can't be punished unless you know the findings the facts are are found out side let's talk about the role that the

u.s. has is played in this there are mixed messages coming out of the u.s. it's clear that donald trump has basically said it may or may not have happened but there are a lot of politicians that had been very forceful about pushing for answers they want the cia director to brief them what role does the u.s. play and on the international stage and pushing to get real answers to they set the tone for everybody else. first the one that i've met a lot of and how do you see we know he was assassinated but we did not know who assassinated him in the case of the i should you would know who keep him associate of the him what we don't know is a whole lot of the association so this is one difference secondly in the united states that you'd like some people in the united states they haven't believed. of the deep state and the public they don't agree with prison camp because it isn't

trump said he might have done it but he might not have done it he's come out of the set up himself as judge and jury he's a president of the united states but we know he's a bias he hates the press we know his bias family wise even if this were the saudi arabia of the emirate as we know he is the last what why the publican's words a kludge expect the prisoner of the united states to act as the head of state not as a businessman or as a person who hates the press we know it in the united states therefore it is the right of the international community to find means and ways to bring the perpetrators who are saudis the other know by name and the saudis admit of the have committed the crime so an internationally quite either could be set up through the security council where reason could reveal it by the putin or prime because putin has committed or his people committed to can i would suspect that commit a crime but through a nuclear being here in

a guess next national agent so that is that sympathy with the saudis because a saudi prince or saudi arabia has done commit this crime in a war or under sway in a way to meet the way what has that actual guy who did it i'm very sorry to hear so in the a minute in the united states what i remember that the some of the sons or children of how should g.-d. our american citizens the bring first of world. action before the american courts where that i'm covered stop and therefore. it could easily be maybe found that out the sons or daughters of how should you want a medical school been a feat for that's you know and i just you know that arkansas i went to saudi stuff you just it took us out i want to bring i want to bring into the conversation i think that's a great point and i don't think i've heard that that avenue yet the the possible avenue because she has children pursuing

a civil ab route what do you think about. with all respect to. mr sun i'm not sure if that would actually have much of an effect on sutter abia a couple of years ago i believe it was the sunset years of the obama administration congress to pass a law. to that with the whole saudi arabia accountable for the deaths of the of the attacks of nine eleven two thousand and one and. a while that that may hold an american court of law and a case of question gee i believe that while there there might be eight conviction and you know the saudi arabian government it a civil case could be held. could be charges that could be could be convicted saudi arabia will simply not recognize as the. the the

jurisdiction of an american court over a case that involves a saudi citizen that service out ended the death and disappearance of of the of the body of a saudi citizen in turkey as i said i'm not i'm not i'm not the jurist year so they literally don't take me to court with it but from a political point of view as a political historian i'm not sure if if that's if that's the right it would be important don't get me wrong it would be important for the question of your family for a surgery survivors to have some sort of closure at american court of law but i'm not sure if that's what's going to move the ball forward if you will on this case betty you know if it is it is as if he is important because if if the court of law in the united states looks up that case one of the things we the grow yes we seek these comedy you know if it was you we ask for official documents route satirize yes they would they would they would put enough pressure in order to keep the case

alive instead so it seemed at least. specs over it and you might notice more information and you so do so if you used to give it up will put more pressure on them and it will show that the highest issuance of the saudi did that she was involved with in the order. but i don't know we want to know yes or yes or sad let me let me bring betty back into this conversation it if if it's not the us that gets behind some sort of investigation are there any other any other countries any other players any other layer leaders that can band together and have equal paul equal weight to push this someplace or will it always come down to the fact that the u.s. could squash it if they want to. well it is obvious because i mean when was it the last week or ten days ago trump made the written announcement about the cia report he's saying that we will never never was of the topic stressing that we will

never know what had happened etc so but this wasn't just a simple statement this was just basically telling people to you know drop out of so. we may have u.s. backing if this issue has been taken in by do a position in in the u.s. to congress or another legal body than done might be a support but then i think g g twenty is also demonstrative some different ideas different opinions about this one of which prince in front of cameras showed how friend he is with putin and then later a motion that actually they made a big deal two billion dollar except i don't have his troops and then his really friendly chat with mark wrong except those are the how much support this case will get from europe because if you notice we are everything trying to link the prince with the case but actually those who arrived in istanbul and

committed this crime already on that investigation and some of them probably in prison we don't know details but the sort we have to distinguish between whether you know to get down the prince through using this chase is a really matter of international opinion you need this u.s. backing on that u.n. security council will not do any decision without u.s. support because any decline there any refusal will drop the case so it's very difficult more difficult than difficulty in a case i know that but at the same time there is a crime i mean all we know by the way officially is that this person kushat to enter the. in istanbul and never came out and then days later to reach the saudis admitted that he was killed so anything in between we don't have much details the look of details are not in the international media they base the news on turkish

officials but we don't know who they are we don't have the purpose of great report yet so official announcement in the sort of. let me ask you about that point that we just brought up it do you think that the way he was received at the g twenty the fact that he just basically went about business as usual i'm talking about mohamed insolvency you think that that is indicative of what will actually end up happening that that saudi can just keep pushing forward as if nothing happened and and just there in a hope that at some point it'll just fade away. well in international diplomacy usually governments don't like to be nasty to each other but whatever niceties you saw of the g. twenty there was really a very cold the reception by the there was heads of state but any member of the european parliament have the star now used to really prefer to position the kept

calling for an international in every situation and independent of restriction global one and also an international trial so. the east you would not go away that is as long as the international community keeps a firm stand and they have full i have some hope that if the united states serves the congress we keep digging and wanting to know the truth because trump wanted to defy he's own agencies the cia before the out of the f.b.i. and now this. and he's defined the world but that is facing problems himself regarding the modeler and we see geishas so the man is really on the receiving end and he is one moving from one crisis to another he can all i don't think that discussion of the case will go away it would be there for ever ok it will remind the international community that the saudis are violated human

rights for so long for decades without any punishment other time how we are that the saudis will be held to account that made the our act like a normal entity or otherwise you would face that i think you cite that will have to be the final word we are out of time gentlemen thank you all very much i say bahrain cairo and sighed and to bar thank you thank you for watching as well you can see the program again any time by visiting our website at al-jazeera dot com for further discussion to our facebook page that's facebook dot com ford slash a.j. inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter or handle as an eighteen side story for me richelle carey an entire team. well there on line for you looking at wildlife and how the solutions come together to benefit all parties involved that's where we're going to have long term success

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european union the parliamentary session is expected to begin any moment now is called pm accuse prime minister's questions it generally kicks off with one or two technicalities the prime minister questions about her diary engagements in the coming weeks and months let's stay with these pictures until we get into the meat of the debate about brett sit and talk to our correspondent jonah hall so john i think today they're talking about the implications on cybersecurity not the most exciting topic but something that's got to be argued out give or take the pluses and minuses all the same anyway. well they're having to touch on and talk about all the elements of the deal of a future relationship with the european union of course and in terms of the vote. currently slated to take place next tuesday on this deal that reason may have struck with the european union both a with drawl agreement the protocol for the exit mechanism of the u.k. from the e.u.

and. the sort of broad outline of a future relationship that takes in things like free trade and among other things security and cyber security it's a deal in tremendous trouble at the moment because they don't appear to be anything like the numbers in parliament that she would require to reserve may a majority to get that deal through and formalize as it were brags that there is a massive amount of opposition to the deal in her own party more than one hundred m.p.'s have spoken against it put that together with opposition parties and the government could well face an absolutely crushing defeat next tuesday by two hundred votes or more there are even some voices suggesting putting that vote off in order to avoid such an embarrassment and add to all of that peter with what i think will end up clouding the debate today the events of choose day three defeats by is she speaking no she's not three defeats by m.b.'s of the government that

hasn't happened for forty years i think we are now listening to tourism a shivery should we dip into that it's too long it's been difficult for rape victims to speak out i hope that now following her example others will recognise that they will be heard and that proper action will be taken mr speaker this morning i have meetings with ministerial colleagues and others in addition to my duties in this house i should have such meetings need to say this to philip does speak of can i ask yours and the prime minister's comments in respect of some he would house from these back benches. yeah it's my right honorable friend believe that today's announcement of the u.k. life sciences sector significant investment to work alongside the n.h.s. using general mixon ai to help diagnose major diseases early shows that world class life sciences companies such as agilent in my constituency will continue to invest

in the u.k. to help the n.h.s. improve patient outcomes post yeah the prime minister late. tourism in the u.k. prime minister there reacting to a domestic question of. policy in the future when it comes to domestic policy in the u.k. interesting what john hall was saying to us a little earlier talking about the numbers journalists just bring you back in for a second you're saying to us that more than a hundred m.p.'s have said they will vote against it most significant isn't it because ten days or two weeks ago people like john burke the speaker of the house that means basically signaling look if she gets if she loses the vote by two or three she could go to another vote they could do some strong arm tactics with the party whips maybe and she might be able to pull it off but if the numbers were that big as big as one hundred she's political toast and that in effect means an exit from i suppose. potentially i mean you know as well as i do what they say

about a week in politics peter there is still time yet for that gap to close but at the moment it looks almost impossible and i was getting on to what happened yesterday in parliament on tuesday these three votes lost by the government forty years since anything like that has happened one of them putting the government in contempt of parliament for its failure to release the full legal advice that it was given by own attorney general on the deal struck with brussels that is significant it also lost a vote on a procedural procedural matter that effectively hands control back to parliament in the event that that vote is lost next.