tv Up Front 2018 Ep 7 Al Jazeera December 23, 2018 7:32am-8:00am +03
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one how the color oh democrats feel if you have had us over so on and going on the war not the heart of the lottery you have to medina. the united states has provided the coalition with military support since twenty fifteen yes the blowing up of a bus with civilians and children it is a horrible incident but first we have to find out the facts. then the united states has to make some choices if in fact our saudi allies were not involved in this we will continue this type of support for some time. we have made it clear at the u.n. from the secretary general's perspective and the perspective of the high commissioner for human rights our outrage at the targeting of minibuses and we've called for there to be. authority based occasioned this attack obviously these various attacks obviously all international humanitarian law must be respected and
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we need to make sure that there is a proper test a geisha and we'll have to see whether that happens or not. the thought the bus bombing triggered international condemnation. the commander of u.s. air forces central command lieutenant general geoffrey harrigan severely criticised both the coalition and the saudi authorities. the u.s. army central commander in the middle east michael x. garrick's went to riyadh's to urge the saudis to conduct a thorough investigation. donald trump told fox news that the saudi lets coalition in yemen didn't know how to use an american made bomb in the attack. and the un security council called for a credible and transparent investigation into the incident. we call on the saudi
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led coalition to conduct a thorough and transparent investigation into the incident what we want to see is a stop to the fighting what we want to see is stop to the humanitarian suffering we want to see is to civilian casualties members of the security council met and heard a briefing from the assistant secretary general on the recent attacks. which resulted in large numbers of civilian casualties including children they expressed their grave concern at these and all that the recent attacks in yemen. can be. managing a decade in a lot of. them are near. and no at the.
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said the bomb that killed forty children in yemen with applied by the u.s. . they said it was a two hundred twenty seven kilo laser guided mark to bomb made by lockheed martin a leading u.s. defense contractor. former u.s. president barack obama blocked arm sales to saudi arabia in twenty six. after u.s. weapons were used in an attack on a funeral in. killing one hundred forty people however u.s. president donald trump overturned that's ban in twenty seventeen. the u.s. has been utterly complicit in the destruction of the us government as the biggest arms dealer anywhere in the world and results are catastrophic as we're seeing in yemen right now whoever has been a terrible humanitarian catastrophe and yet u.s.
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companies have profited every step of four way when that bomb was dropped it was a lock even martin bomb made in the usa. the politicians are concerned that the united states has no direct involvement in causing that humanitarian conflict and that humanitarian outcome so our elected representatives want to be certain in their mind that our actions or our in actions are not contributing to the deaths of civilians and children. as international pressure increased the coalition started to shift its position further denying responsibility was no longer an option and. its public statements began to just it might be seeking to other ways out of the crisis i was considering opening an investigation.
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if in fact there was an allegation of a school bus incident as has been suggested then it's important for the commander to to advise his coalition our allies to go through the process of doing an after action review there may have been problems with the weapon system which is very rare there may have been problems with the operational control there may be some questions about the rules of engagement these are what these types of posts incident allegations are intended to prove. the coalition formed what it's called the joint incident assessment team the g eight. it's admitting that the coalition had ordered its jets to avoid hitting the bus as it was carrying civilians but that it had been too late the coolish and apologized for the loss of
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life and wished those injured to a speedy recovery. however human rights watch said in a reports in august twenty eighth seen that the g.i. eighty work was not credible adding that it was covering up more crimes. so that i'm going to be a list dawson of what i need to watch me do need money on the dinny if you've got a month or. more. i use an old timer just father he. got what he was sort of but it. really. has been how did. he get. to be credible and any accountability mechanism needs to be unbiased and needs to be seen by the world. is
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impartial with regards to the various parties and that that will be the real test of whether. a count ability mechanism works or not. the reason that. so you feel that alliance eventually apologize from part of the school buses because because because we're always being told that so to resume is monitoring itself for war crimes we're always being told that we're taking every precaution possible to avoid killing civilians and yet some who is being trusted to evaluate itself for war crimes when we've seen reporting which has come from the. from the side related coalition's own investigations they've almost always been a total whitewash they've always. find ways to absolve themselves of responsibility . to have the i would limit or larger well
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limit to what other and i guess by then that offer a look at them a little. bit of a higher with short. a shove are largely just half of them a. bad i'll only get in the bits i had a good game. and then they get mad about obama and then and then and the real third day or the bonehead that i met so many that would you add that one of the lads and i would lead the game and then i'm a bit of a money. her on that about. the saw the bus bombing to draw why do global attention not just to the war in yemen but to the saudi you equalisation strategy and methods. it's also
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beg the question as to when the international community would finally cry enough is enough. it's a war that they have invested a lot of money and time and effort and it's in a period when the saudis are trying to redefine their image on the world stage and to accept defeat in a conflict in a small country like yemen. to a force that's largely backed by iran this would simply be a blow to saudi prestige that is so great that it doesn't allow them to think rationally we've seen three years worth of saudi air strikes so i think we have to declare the strategy unsuccessful and look for something else why they just refuse to accept the possibility that they're losing when to most of the rest of us it appears that yes they are those.
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that the status quo in yemen is clearly unacceptable the war's gone on for too long our hope is that the parties in the region and and in the wider world will come to accept that the war in yemen has gone on too long that no one is winning it this kind of crisis doesn't benefit any party. most of the world agrees that the war has gone on far too long and caused untold unnecessary suffering to millions of yemeni people. since the start of the bus bombing there have been two significant developments
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with a direct impact on the war and those involved. the first affected how the world now views saudi arabia. on the second of october twenty eighth teen the saudi journalist jim. who was living in the united states was murdered in the consulate of saudi arabia in istanbul. most other countries reacted with disapproval if not horror at the extrajudicial killing of an innocent man on foreign soil all eyes turn to saudi crown prince mohammed bin said a man who denied any responsibility. the truman administration took him at his word despite advice to the contrary from its own intelligence agency but american politicians have been forthright in their condemnation sadly president trump continues for crying his love and affection for the saudi regime the
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brutality and lawlessness of the saudi regime as everybody in this country now knows was made clear to the entire world with the burt of dissidents saudi journalist jamal khashoggi and maybe if the saudis were willing to lie to us about what happened to jamal khashoggi they haven't been straight with us as to what's happening inside yemen because if the united states is being used to intentionally hit civilians. then we are complicit in war crimes i just believe that the relationship while valuable in the past has become too much of a burden and as long as india says around. think you'll ever be normal again meanwhile the un finally managed to bring all the warring factions in yemen together at formal peace talks in the swedish capital stockholm. the un special
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envoy for yemen martin griffiths managed to broker a peace deal and declared a cease fire between pro-government forces and who the rebels in the port city of who they dared to start on the eighteenth of december twenty eighth teen. after the saddam bus bombing a group of u.n. experts that that saudi and immorality forces may have committed war crimes in yemen. so everyone went into the peace talks knowing the seriousness of the saudi let action but peace could only be attained with the full participation and cooperation of mohamed bin sandman. sometimes the diplomacy needed to achieve peace has to involve suspending condemnation of the brutality is and illegality is of war.
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decision to remove american troops from syria. journey home on monday. the u.s. government shutdown is set to drag on as the senate stalemate continues over funding border wall project plus. a double suicide attack in somalia fifteen people including a journalist are killed in a bombing near the presidential palace also ahead. drumming up support for free speech thousands rally in serbia against the government's crackdown on the media and the opposition. let's get going there's been a second high profile resignation from the u.s. president on the administration in just over forty eight hours now this time the
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u.s. envoy to the global coalition against eisel brett mcgurk has quit over mr trump's decision to pull troops out of syria in his resignation letter he said i saw on the run in syria but have not yet been defeated as the president had claimed mcgurk follows the u.s. defense secretary james mattis out of the white house masses quit on thursday telling donald trump he needed someone whose views align better with his decision this week to pull around two thousand soldiers out of syria has rattled the s.d.f. a kurdish led force american troops had been supporting they too say the war against eyesore has not ended yet. now just eleven days ago bret was highlighting the importance of the u.s. continuing in the fight against eisel inside syria where we multiple objectives in syria so the military objective can very clearly the military objective is the enduring defeat of isis and if we've learned one thing over the years and during
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defeat of a group like this means you can't just defeat their physical space and then leave you have to make sure the. internal security forces are in place to ensure that those gains security gains are enduring we have obviously learned a lot of lessons in the past we know that once the physical space is defeated we can't just pick up and leave so we're prepared to make sure that we do all we can to ensure this is enduring no sign of that areas that we have cleared of isis they have not returned or actually seize physical space there's kind of stuff and so nobody is saying that they're going to disappear nobody's that naive so we want to stay on the ground make sure that stability can be maintained also in jordan as our correspondent tracking that story for us out of washington roslyn how much of a surprise was this. it was a big surprise for those who have been following the u.s. led fight against eisel since two thousand and fourteen it is also a very big shock because even though brett mcgurk had indicated that he would be
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retiring from the state department in the coming months the fact that he was alongside the defense secretary jim mattis had been making this very vigorous argument that the u.s. would be ill advised to pull its forces out of the part of syria where the local forces simply aren't strong enough to up push back against a resurgent eisel well really the fact that he's been making this argument and essentially lost that argument really left him no choice but this is a very big loss the state department and the pentagon have worked very closely together in this effort not just to go after eisel fighters but to get other countries involved in the effort by providing material by providing troops by providing the resources to carry out an air war and to get other countries notably involved in the effort to train local forces to be able to better defend that part
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of syria from eisel fighters who had wanted to try to establish a so-called caliphate he really knew everyone in the region peter and essentially it is being reported that he told his colleagues after the president made his announcement on syria that no one in the region would want to take him seriously or would want to work with him or could trust that the united states would be there to back up their security efforts against eisel where does this leave the white house policy as far as serious concern that. well analysts are suggesting that by pulling out this small presence which we need to underscore was never welcomed or accepted by president bashar al assad in damascus we do need to stress that they feel that because of the all going civil war that this really not only creates a no man's land in terms of security but also if the syrian military were to
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mobilize quickly enough it could regain control of that part of syria and really consolidate bashar assad's control over the country once again and they say that this really does harm the u.s. efforts to be seen as a country willing to stand up against dictators against us so-called strongman leaders in the region and around the world but it's also a real sense of can the u.s. be trusted from a national security standpoint and so that's what analysts are really focusing on is the u.s. pulling into a more isolationist mode and what does that mean for the countries left behind how does that we shape the balance of power across the middle east or in other regions of the world for that matter ross thanks very much. well britain a good spin instrumental in shaping washington's policy in northern syria as we've just been hearing he was appointed as the u.s.
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envoy to the global coalition fight under the obama administration twenty fifteen now before that who was the deputy assistant secretary of state for iraq and iran and was described as an architect of obama's failed iran nuclear deal a career diplomat he was a senior official overseeing operations in iraq and afghanistan during president george w. bush's tenure in the white house let's talk now to michael preach and he's a senior fellow at the hudson institute he previously served as a u.s. intelligence officer and military adviser he joins us on skype from el paso texas welcome back to the news i'm michael preachin basically everyone is saying now the same thing which is that leaving in the way that the u.s. is leaving puts in place exactly the same kind of scenario that led to eisele in the first place. yes or the president's decision to leave serious of the state you criticize obama who are leaving iraq loose and he said that that murdoch isis now
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he's in danger of doing the same thing you know twenty three months before an election. withdrawing troops from syria when i know i says it's not the fear and warning the risk that there's an isis resurgence because there will be a head of the twenty twenty elects deficient ministration under donald trump have to go into some sort of a a damage limitation exercise now because they have to surely lessen confusion at the state department at the pentagon and working with all their former allies in and around syria. yes the thing that they were not talking about is both what secretary madison there were already on their way out the president was already working for a new secretary defense and there was listen to his position two weeks from now so this really resigning over syria to me i think is is a ruse in a way because both not mature in madison opposed what ambassador jeffrey was wanted
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to do in syria which was counter if you want and defeat a crisis now some of you are opposed to the carrier one aspect of the president's policy or ambassador jeffrey spotlessly on syria to counter what they're doing so the president needs a strategy but he wasn't getting one through g.o.g. and he wasn't getting much from earth or what it would there would have led to success in syria but isn't that to the value who and what mr mcgurk was given that he was a rarity he was a holdover from the days of barack obama that in itself was a demonstration surely of how good he was at his job if only within the context of how many trustworthy contacts he made within that system of people involved in the u.s. operation inside syria. yes ok so mcgurk was also there to ensure it's fortune met in two thousand and seven no idea where he was working on the status of forces agreement were good is is is good at getting in front of somebody and telling that
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person what they want to hear the problem is other people are listening if you simply talk to that network that you talk about it's long been time to leave his post was supposed to leave at the beginning the time and inspiration disposed to leave last summer he was now supposed to leave two weeks from now so now he's resigning to head to head of the syria issue citing the president snarkily troops out of syria is the reason and it's just it's just not the case as to that drawdown of u.s. forces from syria very specifically just that specific. kariya first for the next minute or so. ah there are potentially all that negative consequences to this because there have been for example a couple of low level terror incidents in europe in the last year the genesis of those have been traced right back to rocca which as you and i both know was a is eisel emotional hot land that's it that's center of gravity that's where the
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the genesis of those incidents began does that mean that the rest of the world is more exposed because you you either leave syria completely and utterly or you don't the gloss is not half full or half empty with this right there is the force that were used for rock and there is or it was the syrian defense forces primarily made up of their careers why p.g. they have no interest in holding territory to keep i suspect coming back especially with a y p g has been attacked where early one west of euphrates aspirin was a magnet for them who wanted to leave iraq and there are sewer syria exactly right there is an isis resurgence in syria we never built the sunni force the whole spirit for that crucial step in terms of uncertain seas only territory once clear to the terrorists we have not built a city for support rocker and their resort they're likely to vote american your regime here or isis it's an isis will now have the ability to continue to plan it
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terror attacks external the syria against not only europe but they hope the plan to start the united states is what what would you say to those critics of donald trump when they say this they say if you lose your top military man if you lose your top general and one of your top diplomats in the same week that means your foreign policy territory is a mess. no i think i would say to those critics of the president's wrong for wanting to get out of syria getting rid of mcguirk to madness is not a bad decision at all i know that both resigning but they were on their way out in yuma i work for madison that is was a guy that worked on you ron you said i have three concerns iran iran iraq yet a secretary defense.
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