you don't speak for the entire american nation and nor do you and i never claim to nor do i know what you do i mean or do you accuse the entire american neighborhood i'm glad we agree i don't know you was anyone of anything i was responding to your specific rather bizarre claim that the americans have killed anyone in iraq intentionally no civilians when there is evidence that they have plenty of it over fifteen years you're suggesting that americans routinely and you are going to tell you didn't win them on that and it's a one hundred thirteen well read your own two thousand and thirteen article ok i don't know which took about one twenty thirty to i'm going to ask you simple questions and you're having struggling when i'll see them not just going to i'm not straight and i'm not only what you say i'm going to work i am going back to the simple thesis that it's a new two. or three you've been opposed to the iraqis have indeed and what you are now doing and that is you are that's what i like to you know and so my question is is it because i'm very sad because of the american soldiers killed intentionally you say no i give you evidence you say i'm not aware of the evidence then you quote mile to go to me that's a very odd way of again i'm not challenging your facts i'm challenging your

intention for asking the specific moment of an interview with a guest i have them every week but right now let's talk about what you said so for example you said at the time change the channel i'm saying ok you can't really do that when people are dying for. let's talk about flu in fallujah how many civilians were killed in fallujah do you think by the us forces and no one thousand four have no idea why you should tell me when you should tell me you were in charge of the us military was doing the killing i was in charge of the us military and a senior commander on the us military scene during the olympics are in there ok i agree so how many people died in future how many people died in combat inside of flu how many civilians were killed by u.s. forces in fallujah intentionally know how many total killed i don't know. i certainly care every every going to loss of a civilian life in years to fight every loss of a civilian life is a tragedy i accept that everyone is a tragedy i'm saying how many died in fallujah i don't know why you don't that's a bizarre thing you go to war you bomb

a city you don't bother to find out how many people you killed intentionally or unintentionally. we got out of the body count business years ago the numbers while relevant are not something that we quote nor do we keep in our back pocket different studies show suggests between eight hundred maybe more civilians were killed in two thousand and four in the two attacks on fallujah against insurgents by the u.s. military. what we do know intentional and there was don't have documented killings by journalists on the ground i would tell you right now that. it is unfortunate every time a civilian is caught in the middle of a crossfire collateral damage or soldiers go to extensive extensive manner to try to avoid that but there hasn't been a clean war in the history of warfare a senior british army officer at the time told the telegraph newspaper which is a pro will paper in the u.k. my view in the view of the british chain of command is that the americans use of violence is not proportionate and over response to the threat they're facing they don't see the iraqi people the way we see them they view them as well to mention

subhumans the nazi language they're not concerned about iraqi loss of life of their own allied officers saying i'm going to find one hundred officers that would speak that you again you're cherry picking the facts it is certainly. i could probably get a thousand army also has to challenge that saying won't tell you that the americans went extraordinarily took extraordinary measures over that making it up as his agenda and i'm going to look at opinion but he probably was never attacked by operation center watching a strike by apaches or by or a craft and watch them get waved off because we were concerned about civilians in the still end up killing several hundred civilians. flattening the city i mean people who went to police just saw the destruction that was done i have no doubt of that i mean i saw it as well and that is unfortunate in many ways it is. well it's extraordinarily sad for how it affects the civilians but it turned them against americans that this is war this is war and so that symbols and we

followed those rules did we intentionally attack civilian targets no but you are aware that under the rules of war even without intentionally targeting if the attacks a disproportionate and huge numbers of people die quote unquote collateral damage that's a problem too you can always zero back and we didn't mean it we didn't mean to kill ten thousand people or whatever it is again i would expect that right again you can i will repeat to you we followed the rules of engagement we went to extraordinary lengths to avoid collateral damage and you still ended up killing so. many people and we ended up unfortunately killing people that we would not have intentionally killed had we known that the reader was there or that it is not the business of the american military to kill civilians for stuff as we discussed earlier there are plenty of examples where that has happened you guys are usually you guys used allegedly used white phosphorus and depleted uranium weapons against not just military targets but civilian targets which is denied by the u.s.

military to be fair but what do you step it is absolutely no you didn't use it i don't mean the american military admitted to using against civilians i think you're saying you civilians you're exactly right and we did not intentionally use one phosphorus and yet what do you say to the fact that plenty of studies since two thousand and four show quote dramatic increases in infant mortality cancer leukemia and the city of fallujah they link rates of miscarriages and disability in children born in fallujah to u.s. moment military operations i don't know has there been and at the end of p.t. i'm logical i can't pronounce the word have had studies done in the bulletin of environmental contamination in toxicology nov twenty two of found unusual numbers of birth defects surfacing in the city a study carried out by professor alister hay at leeds university said the studies are extraordinary there's been a five fold increase in birth defects in fallujah is that something is that something is that something you feel i would want to know. about response i feel extraordinarily set about that. but you don't take responsibility for what i take

responsibility for is certainly knowing that ethically morally it hurts when we kill civilians we certainly don't do it intentionally that's the cost of war and what you try to do in war is achieve victory at the smallest cost so let's treat the being has a list of our smallest cuts the civilian casualties not just fallujah in two thousand and four in may the u.s. bombed a wedding party killing more than forty iraqi civilians the massacre it's been referred to by many iraqis you want to have the u.s. military took to the podium and said quote there was no evidence of a wedding there may have been some kind of celebration bad people have celebrations too and yet the associated press straight off to get video footage proving that it was a wedding and those were innocent people again you're talking about ex post in opry ory op priore the intelligence was very clear that there were known insurgents at that location and that because of that they believe within the rules of

engagement the authority and in many ways the responsibility to attack that target . ex post i'm not sure what was found out at the time i made that statement we had absolutely no evidence that there was a wedding party if it had been determined after that that there was a wedding party again but that is what will have celebrations too is a very flippant response to forty two dead including thirteen eleven women and fourteen children at that time there was no evidence of forty two people dead and when you found out four to do people are dead general mattis now defense secretary than a commander on the ground said bad things happen in war i don't have to apologize for the conduct of my men just on why so many iraqis were so antagonized by the us president when that was the kind of attitude towards innocent deaths yes do you regret making those remarks the kind of months you and general mattis made i have no regrets of the remarks i made no music matters his remarks were a mistake i'm not here to talk for general mattis so then what do you regret him could be your not regretting your i'm going to the one i said i regretted my own comments when they in fact in fact were seen as flippant and after the fact if they

were seen as wrong i certainly regret that it wasn't the only comment you made that upset people when i also point iraqi journalist at a press conference in february for why u.s. helicopter mounting night raids flying so low to the ground terrifying iraqi children you replied quote what we would tell the children of iraq is that the noise day here is the sound of freedom and again your take another context my wife taught school inside of military schools for decades and that's exactly what she told her children when they had to what it doesn't make it right that a teacher will console her children when her tillery fire is going near that location would console them much saying don't worry you'll be fine not that's the sound of freedom from american occupy again if you read the quote that's where i said my wife said but is it correct to have said that either you or her it certainly worked in the case of the children that she taught do you really think iraqi children across the country many of whom suffer now from mental disorders p.t.s.d.

do you really think they were thinking that was the sound of freedom when they were getting bombed when they thought of what they didn't think at the time of me make. in that comment it was poor choice of words however it had been taken out of context both in terms of how that was just read and i took it out of context i projected what my wife was saying to children which call them half a world away but you can see how that looked kindly indifferent and offensive to a generation of children who've been scarred by war insulted by your country well i don't think that there are too many people and children scarred by that one comment not by that comment but i'm not raids by the bombing that you were defending in your role as chief minister but i think every child that is in the middle of a war zone is affected by that yes i mean iraqi children entire generation grown up in a war zone i think something like five presidents george bush sr bill clinton george bush jr barack obama donald trump have all bombed iraq five presidents running this

one country has taken a lot of bombs from the united states my children let's go back to the children you were there last one i want to go did you see children walking around shaking from the sound of bombs going off not in the part of iraq i was in nor i but i also met dozens of orphans thousands of iraqi children being made off and there are studies showing that one in ten iraqi kids in the mosul p.t.s.d. cannot rest any the toll you yourself say that was on it but it's a rule that you guys and i am not suggesting for a moment that war is not bad and i'm not suggesting for a moment that war doesn't kill people i'm not suggesting for a moment that war doesn't sometimes kill. innocent civilians that's the price of war so as a soldier what you do is try to minimize that at all costs and anybody that believes that collateral damage doesn't happen in war is a living in a fool spirit ninety percent of eighteen to twenty four of the rockies in a poll not long ago said that they believe the americans are an enemy that's an

entire generation of young people who've grown up they don't fans of what you and your colleagues achieved i agree why do you think that is do you think we've been talking about for the last half hour if we didn't believe that we wouldn't be having this conversation so when you were there in iran can you watching the your fellow soldiers locking up people who some of you some of whom you believe are security threats and putting them not just in abu ghraib but come to current crop or and all the bases did you think at the time did you imagine that you know what we're laying the groundwork for i so you know i did what did you say at the time what did you say to your colleagues you actually predicted that this would happen i didn't predict it i was worried about it i was worried at the time that the mass incarceration of what the troops on the ground believe would be security threats would come back to haunt us yes and yet you said i told that to my colleagues and i told that to my spirit so that knowing that thinking that then and knowing what we know now you still started this interview saying we don't have anything to apologize i don't think we do have anything to apologize giving them or helping

give the world eisel well first of all let's make sure we understand eisel was not created inside of iraq was it created well they started out primarily inside of syria al qaeda or if you're suggesting that it's a business that started in iraq and moved to syria. we can have that scream and because we didn't start in syria did you know it was. still going on you know what you know actually in iraq. started inside of a jordanian prison. agree with that but you know what i'm saying is the link between the iraq war and i still that's one of the legacies of our are you discussing that the legacy of iraq is that it created islamic extremism i'm saying the legacy of iraq is it did help give the world yes there was no weisel two thousand and three you can put a name on it the question is simple did the iraq war. which many people believe start the rise of extreme excess abated and heightened i think you would agree most

intelligence agencies in the world you love to quote intelligence agree that iraq increased the terror threat to the world to the region to the us i think it was yeah well i'll stipulate that. last question last december following the recapture of one of the last remaining i saw in iraq the country's prime minster hyderabadi said the end of the war was the end of the war against eisel back in august twenty fifteen the general odierno who is the u.s. army commander on the ground he warned that we could go into iraq with a certain amount of american forces we could probably defeat eisel the problem would be we'll be right back where we are six months later do you think that still holds true today well first of all he wasn't the commander twenty fifteen he was going or twenty five however you brought up a very good point which is why the united states took a new strategy after the rise of beisel rather than having the american troops those boots on the ground doing the fighting we went into a training advising and assisting role who's been killing a soul inside of iraq probably i can say it's been the iraqi military it's been the

iraqi federal police it's been the iraqi counterterrorism service and i believe that by killing i saw and by conducting operations play such as mosul we are not creating that antagonism which we did the first time mark kimmitt thanks for joining me on that front thanks for having me thank you. kidnappings a man does in crimea since russia is full stomach station of the black sea. i don't understand why. schools of crimea. have been arrested. by russian security forces. crimea russia is secret. it's a daunting climb to one of the holiest sites in bhutan tiger's nest ball astri seems

to defy gravity every beauty's is expected to complete the pilgrimage to ensure peace and happiness when it became a democracy in two thousand and eight the time put happiness at the center of all political policy inspiring the un to pass a resolution urging other nations to follow betimes example but how do you measure it many brits unease happiness is what we ensure it's here that it is quantifiable but by simply turning its pursuit into policy time has done what no other country have. done on line i want to start here on my laptop with a tweet or if you joined us on saturday there was a rush of adrenaline when we felt this is the moment that we have been waiting for this is a dialogue the government has coal face and a legal protest all stuck to the police to force to disperse the crowds everyone has a voice and for voting for lots of different reasons what's the difference types of

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calls for a general strike in sudan as anti-government protests continue into the night. a second phone call between the u.s. and turkish president says american troops prepare to withdraw from syria and preparations are underway for christmas celebrations in bethlehem we'll go there live. there if it is more tsunamis could hit the indonesian coastline as the volcano which triggered the weekend's devastating wave continues to erupt at least two hundred eighty one people have died after the tsunami swept along the sea. and crashed twenty meters in the land without warning on saturday night rescue teams are working around the clock in search of survivors many on

a honda. the tsunami hit without warning and with such force that this is all that's left of the open e. stage with the band seventeen had been performing. the wave struck on saturday night at the tender beach resort and on a holiday weekend the wall of water sweeping the stage out from beneath the band and slamming it into the crowd the lead singer was reportedly script out to see the full being rescued he struggled to tell his hundreds of thousands of followers on instagram of the face of his pained me was we are. road manager ok annie and herman a new jag have not been found please pray that my wife dylan will be found there. it happened between sumatra and job or islands on indonesia's soon to strait waves hitting with such force the water traveled about twenty meters in length and and september more than two and

a half thousand people died in the indonesian city of on the island of sunil way see from a tsunami caused by an earthquake but these waves appeared to be different experts believe they were caused by the end not krakatoa of all chemical and that has been erupting since june it's still to have triggered underwater landslides which displaced water to create the large waves they were no telltale trim as it came without warning that. i've ordered a check of all the tsunami detection equipment and the replacement of broken ones i think in the new budget year of twenty nineteen early january the replacement of broken equipment or old ones which can no longer be used. but expect say that even with high end technology and round the clock surveillance there's no guarantee they'll be a warning of a volcanic tsunami to a certain extent you can take the volcanic activity i mean you can you can tell there's

a bit of magma moving around and you can sense very very small earthquakes happening but can you predict there's going to be seen army generated by that i know that's a completely different kettle of fish if you wish much harder to try and get a sense of whether any tsunamis are going to be generated by this volcanic activity . the death toll has risen quickly emergency workers not only searching for the dead and missing but now i'm backing on the grim task of identifying bodies. survivors have crowded hospitals and emergency shelters on higher ground many with nowhere else to go and fearing further away this. debris nalut is this once picturesque coastal area people and naturally drawn to the sea to create their lives and livelihoods many will now be weighing the beauty against the three of these which is maybe on one hand which is here and. now we've got two teams in the

new district on the western java case first that's here from rob mcbride people are not on the beaches where we are at the moment about to not be because of that warning has to be said is because we've just had a torrential rain storm blowing in from the sea for the last ten minutes or so before that we've been watching army teams police on the growing search undergoing a large cleanup in this district and the district is that the start of some fifty plus kilometer stretch of coastline that really was pulled a full brunt of these a tsunami waves over the weekend and there was an awful lot of activity all along here we are seeing the cleanup operation continue there still a search operation in the hope of finding any more survivors. but as we progress into the second day after these tsunamis then it has to be said it is now more sadly full bodies as the death toll continues to mount it approaches three hundred

we also have of course the priority for many of the emergency services all the injured some thousand plus people injured with a number of injuries typically traumatic injuries from broken bones and cuts they are being treated at hospitals and clinics along this stretch of coastline there was a clinic just up from where we are here either close djoko we don't owe the president of indonesia has been here visiting some of these survivors in hospital and seeing for himself just the kind of destruction that was rolled here over the weekend and andrew thomas has been taking a closer look at the damage schools along the coast. it's a pretty murky day but on a clear one you can see the volcano forty seven kilometers out to sea and even now those low rumble would seem odd because usually here on the me my voice will vote you saw both cannick eruptions they've been going on for months and it was one of those on saturday night that caused a landslide that then caused the tsunami that swept through this this is the garden

of a hotel you can see the swimming pool there the child's body was found after the tsunami swept through we're told the wall of water was about a meter high off the surface of the water but with all that water coming in they got over to me to see you all over there came through here presumably at a height of another meter all to smashed into some of these bedrooms you can see one there that's been really destroyed on the ground floor at least this hotel has an upper floor and people were able to run through that when they saw the water coming in to children though they die here now the water powered through here this is the reception area of the hotel where now about three meters above sea level and they carried on and went across the road smashing into the houses on the other side and people there tell us that the water came through their homes at a height of about a meter now we're talking to here because if another tsunami would hit we have

somewhere to run upstairs in this relatively well built hotel but really around here it's just so flat people have nowhere to go and this is well built but many of the holiday homes shacks really a very flimsy lead built along this coast and those are the ones that have been totally destroyed. the trade unions in sudan are calling for a general strike aimed at paralyzing the government doctors across the country have already walked off the job as anti-government protests enter a sixth day on saturday night police fired tear gas to disperse hundreds of protesters in the capital khartoum. i gathered in the city center after a football match chanting freedom songs and demanding president omar al bashir stepped down the protests were triggered by a shortage of bread and feel sorry abdullah gul ial is president of the sudan doctors union in the u.k. she says so dan is heading for a total shutdown if there's a change in leadership i don't think people on the street are just protesting

because of humor because of brant they outlast the because there is over all really the whole system and for the medical sector there is complete destruction for the infrastructure there is an overall. failure from the current government and therefore they have to step down and hand over to the. you know the b.b.b. the how to the power to a government that can lead and can provide a better life for the people of sudan more now from our correspondent who's in the sudanese capital khartoum him orgon. there's been five days of process across the country and more protests are expected today the doctors' union also issued a statement last night and said that they are going to hold a general strike and a big calling for people of other professions to join him on a nationwide strike the terms of fifth of december now it's not clear yet if this strike will happen it's not clear if the strike will take place but what we do know

is that last night after a football match people came out of the stadium and protested against the government they've been chanting slogans like down with the government we don't want the government anymore we want a new regime so it's very obvious that what started i was at what started out as and economic protest has turned into political protests that started all last week in the city of bar in there in our state but that quickly escalated and went across the country now we've seen people protesting from different parts of the country and including the capital khartoum yesterday the police had to use live ammunition and tear gas to disperse the protesters there were reports of some injuries including a child who's been killed that brings the death toll to eleven if we go with the government death toll and it brings it down to twenty brings it up to twenty eight if we go with activists it's not clear yet if this process would ever stop the people seem to be demanding a new government they don't seem to be willing to listen to what this government is willing to offer solutions to try to ease them out of the economic crisis that began the whole thing the pentagon has signed off on the withdrawal of u.s.

military forces from northern syria it comes after turkish president. spoke with president trump again on sunday president trump tweeted about the phone call saying president ever one of turkey has very strongly informed me that he will eradicate whatever is left of isis in syria and he is a man who can do it just turkey is right next door our troops are coming home then a harder has been following developments in the turkish channel on the border with syria. undoubtedly what we are seeing is a new relationship between these two nato allies to united states and turkey over the past few years that was a strained relationship over syria policy now you're hearing u.s. president donald trump in one way or another choose a turkey as its representative in syria saying that order god told him that they will fight eisel he gave him guarantees that they will fight isis so it's almost as

if the u.s. president the saying we're pulling out and turkey is going to represent our interests in syria turkish officials over the past few days have been stressing really two words coordination and vacuum what they have been asking the united states is for this pullout to be orderly so that as to prevent a vacuum a security vacuum to avoid chaos what we understand from turkish officials is that in one way or another they want to avoid a military confrontation and what they're expecting from the united states is for them to hand over to hand over their positions to hand over this these territories and this really is going to raise a lot of questions because what is the fate of the syrian kurdish armed group the white peachy former allies if you like of the united states is the united states going to disarm this group before they leave so many questions left unanswered but what is clear is that this is not going to be a rapid pullout and the u.s. and turkish officials are going to sit down together in.