over recent years. farming is associate professor of political science at long island university she says they have been more attacks in egypt around the holiday season. unfortunately seen a pattern of targeting churches before christmas just as happened last year with the last a terror attack being the killing during its child's baptism back in november. we don't know who is taking claim for this and we also know that there was an attack on a tourist bus just last week exactly a week ago from tonight and so returning see an uptick and targeting of civilians we look at the pattern of terrorist behavior they start with attacking the state or symbols of the state security apparatus with the police and in egypt that's what inside made them not just a terrorist organization not folded into ice all started doing back in two thousand and thirteen they then ask to attacking those seeming to be in cahoots or sympathetic to the state and that's when we saw the attack on susi shrines last

just around this time last year because those were supposedly families that were wild state they then escalated that to now attacking civilians and one terrorist here speaking to attack civilians and mass what it's meant to do is to actually chill society so that they act for political change now we don't know if i'm sorry too much has done this because no one has the credit but we do know is that during the how the suits and during the peak time of egypt's tourist time period we're seeing an uptick in terrorist attacks and that is no way to but i'm just chill society but to attack the state. still to come here on al-jazeera unexpected backing for bricks it will tell you why one of london's most multicultural neighborhoods wants to lead the e.u. . and secular stop millions of tons of plastic waste ending up in our oceans for some people aren't happy.

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scientists speak our. oceans more knock on a. welcome back you're watching al-jazeera live from doha i'm peter dhabi these are your headlines results from the democratic republic of congo's presidential election have been delayed by a week and i'm still was expected on sunday with fewer than half the votes have been counted so far. the partial u.s. government shutdown continues after no breakthrough in talks between senior democrats and trumpet ministration officials president trump tweeted there was no headway made but the vice president mike pence says the meeting was quote

productive. the u.n. special envoy martin griffiths is back in yemen trying to convince both sides in the water fully comply with the cease fire agreement up using each other of violating the truce. a bomb blast has injured at least three policemen in the afghan capital kabul they've been taken to hospital no one has claimed responsibility for the attack. iran's pushing for peace in afghanistan while the u.s. considers withdrawing its troops from the conflict the iranian deputy foreign minister met president ashraf ghani in kabul on saturday. briefed the president about recent talks with taliban representatives in tehran the taliban are believed to control nearly half the country and have been behind many recent attacks targeting government forces into the team is a lecturer at the mora university he says the afghan and iranian governments need to forget their troubled past and move forward to ensure lasting peace. after the conference in afghanistan you see

a lot of conducive political environment in the the current iranian delegation was part of the larger process you better understand that the iranian government in basad in afghanistan but it is said that they have influence over iran the taliban leadership shanghai need just what they did in afghanistan in just that the national security advisor afghanistan here sure that's going to go in that we would like to can wean a meeting between the have been going in the taliban leadership and they will not act like saudi arabia so as long as we see the change in the american in washington unions that rhetoric toward afghanistan as long as we see here the shift of the a in the afghan government that in the afghan government will be sitting to each other in iranian would part of that and i think we have to forget about the past because iranian has been blamed by a lot of money wishes and the dent in afghanistan but we have to forget the boston in just move forward with up optimistic hope both half can go in in the daniel

goleman are just living in the middle of hope and fear they don in government is trying to juggle a political bodies and they would like to sure that if taliban leadership is part of the future afghan government they should be having very badly by the relation with the taliban leadership and then the same time they say that if you had not dared not part of the political settlement between the taliban and the afghan government i think they will have a very bleak and very dark future for brazil's new government turns deployed troops to the northern city of fortaleza to a spike in violent crime that nearly eighty incidents were reported this week across the states of including robberies gun attacks on buildings set on fire reports suggest the drug gangs were responding to tough new measures in prisons and the president has promised a heavy crackdown on crime. the new leader of venezuela's opposition controlled national assembly is vowing to challenge president nicolas maduro when he's sworn in for

a second next week. is an illegitimate leader because opposition candidates were barred from contesting last may's election on saturday twelve latin american countries and canada want in the door but they will not recognize his new government. britain's prime minister's want her critics are putting democracy at risk if they can't unite behind her brakes deal m.p.'s are due to vote on tourism is divorce agreement next week but while westminster remains divided there is an unexpected surge of support from one of london's multicultural neighborhoods lawrence leith takes up the story. this part of south london is home to people from all over the world afghans sell fruits and vegetables to eastern europeans and africans who rub along perfectly happily with british people who have lived here for generations you might assume this multicultural pockets of the capital is entirely against a brick say it's often portrayed as a defense of whites britain but not so for this nigerian restaurant there is

a quiet satisfaction at the prospect of the u.k. cutting its ties with europe and starting to pay more attention to its historical friends in the commonwealth if they struggle for the right to stay in the u.k. while e.u. citizens don't and they think it isn't fair so most of them voted leave the fire because bridges is in your rights to leave. after go and swear allegiance to the queen naturalized in mad nationality to the congress which is a lot of money why do people come from europe to come to the country to live there this is them they don't need to go to india nationality and then because their countries part of the after that everything and we as a in pensacola i feel cheated i feel jealous about average africa. african british gladney word for breakfast because they know

not because i have anything against the rope and why it would give us this leverage in terms of treatment opportunity are walking. governments has already tried to indicate its support for the commonwealth the prime minister visited both kenya and nigeria last may in london the africa next patch it looked all of this enthusiastically britain. from nigeria especially. going to talk more than i do believe there is someone from was a lot of you know thing investments in nigeria and cutting their money from their own daily bases so they have to return something back to us. it is perhaps an open question what some hard call backs it is make of the support for their cause from black people after all some of the people in london carried white supremacist flags and hold openly racist opinions the nigerians in london level this but they

don't see bald ever since the referendum nearly two and a half years ago polling organizations have tried as hard as they can to understand the voting intentions of almost every demographic but for all that the idea that people from commonwealth countries like nigeria might of voted in large numbers to leave the european union is still an almost entirely untold story and one which may have had a bigger affects on the outcome of the referendum than has previously been understood . there are of course economic arguments that future british trading arrangements with the commonwealth wouldn't be anything like as lucrative for the u.k. as remaining in the e.u. but much of brics it is about emotion and not facts the idea of a reputed british commonwealth has many supporters here horsley al-jazeera in south florida. union leaders in hungary are calling for a national strike and more protests over controversial labor reforms now last month the government introduced what's being called the slave law it increases the amount

of extra hours employers can demand while delaying overtime payments in neighboring serbia thousands of anti-government protesters around it for a fifth week that demanding media freedom and an end to attacks on journalists and opposition figures the rallies were triggered by an assault on an opposition politician by unknown attackers in november. french ministers have held an emergency meeting after the first yellow first protest of the new year turned violent that. the police fired tear gas to disperse anti-government demonstrators in central paris on saturday about fifty thousand people rallied in cities nationwide that's well below the numbers first seen when the movement began two months ago. turkey's introduced a charge on single use plastic bags in an attempt to clean up the mediterranean its waters are polluted with thousands of tonnes of plastic every year but manufacturers say the tens of thousands of jobs are now at risks in a consumer who has more now from istanbul. like many countries worldwide turkey has

a major problem with plastic waste turkey is your second largest plastics producer and six in the world. millions of tons are thrown away every year. often ending up in the mediterranean sea a littering turkey's coastline it is estimated one hundred forty four tons of plastics from turkey alone and stop in the sea every day one hour of every five fish has my for plastic in its digestive system and one million. birds are this suffocating in plastic bags every year. the turkish government is implementing what is called the zero waste policy turkish m.p.'s passed a law aimed at. cutting the cost stemming from pollution in the long run single use plastic facts are the first target. from now on shoppers will have to buy plastic

bags shops carts given the way face a fine farmer's market traders around sure have the new law will work it would cost too much for a customer how would we charge them if they would be to keep the bags and use them again for the turkish government estimates every turkey uses four hundred forty plastic bags every year with the new plastic bag tax that total is expected to fall to forty a year by two thousand and twenty five many people here are hopeful the new government's measures to reduce plastic consumption will be just as successful as the ban on smoking in public places a decade ago environmentalist say the success of the new regulations depends on troops being responsible citizens they need to be encouraged to avoid single use plastic packing and to help save the world from the dangers of pollution. plastic bag makers say the law could make tens of thousands of factory workers redundant

god bags can be recycled for maximum of three times the main problem is a lack of awareness and decomposing. turkic current the recycles thirty percent of its plastic waste within the next twelve years the government says it is aiming for one hundred percent c namco saulo al-jazeera a stumble. thousands of families line the streets of madrid to catch a glimpse of the annual three kings parade floats carrying the kings that the procession through the spanish capital on saturday the celebration marks the christian festival of which many spanish considered more important than christmas sweets thrown into the crowds represent gifts bought by the biblical three wise men to jesus. a former military bunker in hong kong that played a crucial role in world war two has been given a new lease of life instead of bullets and bombs it's now home to some of the world's best wines sarah clarke went along to take a look. it's tucked away in one of the most expensive residential areas in hong

kong carved into the side of the mountain it was once the main ammunition depôt for british forces in the colony during world war two built in preparation for a japanese attack in world war two it was the very last place to surrender to the japanese so hong kong surrendered on christmas day nine hundred forty one and little hong kong which was the code name given to the sites we actually lost until the twenty seventh of december nine hundred forty one so we always like to joke and say little hong kong outlaws the big hong kong by two days it's a network of underground bunkers but i mean asian has been replaced by crates of some of the world's best wines with the cool dark bunkers offering perfect conditions for storage we have about two thousand of the biggest collectors in asia that use us we have around about one and a half million bottles with us and we have a total in catastrophic insurance cover of just under four billion dollars so you

can imagine the per bottle value is is very high the bunkers was so sensitively restored they want to unesco heritage award they were unknown and inaccessible to many in hong kong for years now everyone is welcome i think the whole idea is a win win for the community absolutely because the way they've done it the way they've built up the activities and preserve the building and also i have to say they've got a very good sense of the historical importance there once twenty four bunkers here at this site there are now i left each one holds up to twenty five thousand bottles of wine including one of the most expensive ever sold at auction for two hundred thirty five thousand dollars for that reason god monitor this site piously one thousand and twenty four hours of violence the auction is subbies regards hong kong as the wine capital of asia it's been some of the strongest market this year with hong kong accounting for more than. half of the company's one hundred million

dollar global wine sales some would argue is actually the one capital the world at the moment over the last ten fifteen years without doubt it's probably been the biggest congregation of point collectors and buyers by hong kong a name sort of great to china back in the bunker is it's not just about the value of vintage wines the relics of war have turned it into a working memorial to hong kong's past sirrah clarke al-jazeera hong kong. this is al-jazeera these are your top stories so far today results from the democratic republic of congo's presidential election have been delayed by a week an announcement was expected on sunday but few of the past the votes are being counted so far the u.s. president will hold a meeting with senior staff at camp david on sunday as the partial government shutdown enters its sixteenth day white house officials met senior democratic congressional members on saturday but still haven't found

a way to break the deadlock and estabrook has more now from washington. vice president mike pence jared cushion or the president's son in law and close advisor and kiersten nielsen who is the secretary of homeland security met for about two hours on saturday afternoon with congressional aides talking about this government shutdown the vice president said that these talks on saturday were productive however president trump tweeted that the two sides really didn't make much headway now the vice president is going to be continuing these talks tomorrow while president trump is going to be meeting with some of his senior aides at camp david presidential retreat treat the u.s. national security advisors in israel on a two day visit and he's due to meet with the prime minister benjamin netanyahu in the coming few hours john bolton is expected to address is really concerns over the u.s. troops from syria there are worries that it will allow greater iranian influence bolton will benefit to encourage turkey has promised to take the lead in the fight

against eisold in syria but it reportedly wants u.s. military support to continue even after the troops pull out. the u.n. special envoy martin griffiths is back in yemen trying to convince both sides in the water fully comply with the cease fire agreement they're accusing each other of violating the truce brazil's new government has deployed troops to the northern city of forty let's take on a spike in violent crime in the eighty incidents were reported this week across the state of syria including robberies going to sound awesome of course drug gangs were responding to tough measures inside prisons the president. has promised a heavy crackdown on crime. union leaders in hungary are calling for a national strike and more protests over controversial labor reforms last month the government introduced what's being called the slave law it increases the amount of extra hours employers can demand delaying overtime payments those are your headlines the news continues here on al-jazeera after inside story i will see you

in about thirty minutes of ifa. president discusses his hopes of the country and the region and challenges including poverty migration corruption and the case of julian assange. lead in the rain zero zero. their farms were grabbed on the robert mugabe's land reforms now white farmers in zimbabwe will be compensated they say that's not enough but will the man's trigger another crisis and has land reform proved a success in zimbabwe this is inside story.

hello and welcome to the show i'm sam is a down thousands of white farmers in zimbabwe were forced off their land during former president robert mugabe's rule but they might now be awarded some compensation the government says it plans to pay more than fifty million dollars to those who were evicted but critics estimate the bill at nine billion dollars. has this report from the town of chegutu bend free says returning to the farm that was seized from his family nine years ago is difficult he's distraught to see the farmhouse in such a state and doubts of his government will keep its promise to pay fifty three million dollars to compensate former white commercial farmers i believe what is happening is government is. trying to make the right noises in order for the international community to come in behind them and say we're prepared to put money into this but they're not serious about it the compensation is for improvements

made to the farms such as dams and tobacco bans but farmers who lost everything say fifty three million is nowhere near enough it's estimated government needs at least nine billion dollars to compensate four thousand displaced white farmers. from the. but. truly. compensating whites is not popular with some black war veterans who helped force the farmers out there that say much of the good land were to senior officials in the ruling party just. because i don't have land in and. we don't have land

so forward from us to be considered i feel it's an insult the commercial farmers union says several farms are overgrown with weeds and wild grass on this land the sunflowers maize and mangoes that were once here are long gone this used to be a four bedroom house and this was the kitchen the taps or over there they've been removed people who came here took the tiles and the sink so and whatever bricks they could find the house traced all the way back there that used to be the lounge and the living room for bend free compensation if it happens is not enough he says property rights and the rule of law have to be respected otherwise history will keep repeating itself. al-jazeera zimbabwe. first take a look at zimbabwe's land reform policies the first effort to distribute land more fairly was started in one thousand nine hundred eighty but when zimbabwe gained independence from white minority rule at that time the majority of arab land was

owned by white farmers the plan was based on a willing seller willing buyer policy which meant the government would not force the sale of land but in two thousand a new phase was introduced to accelerate the process and land was seized from white farmers it was in visitors that fifty thousand square kilometers would be subject to compulsory purchases from whites over five years so barbarous experience was often compared to south africa's both countries share a history of land ownership inequality. let's bring our guests into the show now we have joining us from harare by skype derek matty shack senior researcher at the institute for security studies in pretoria in nairobi is at a concert to see know of rich management and in emerging markets economist and from london joseph a scieno

a commentator on african affairs and former columnist for new africa magazine good to have you all with us if i could start with joseph so is there zimbabwe in government's land reform policy a positive thing a much needed policy much needed by the country and the economy. absolutely and in my opinion. needed to have taken place not in two thousand but much but i think we need to put this in context including harrah's a report it is the case the introduction rightly suggested that the process started in one thousand eighty land was the cause of the fight for independence in december of the court under the center what happened was when the stalemate arrived the lancaster house agreement provided for one. while the war ended anew they went through a democratic process. land would be redistributed on willing seller willing buyer

and what would happen is that they got on top of the process led by britain would provide the funds to be able to do just that the thing is that the british and others and their allies failed to commit that to all of their commitments because of politics going back to towards the year two thousand and one thousand nine hundred ninety five ninety six ninety seven particularly. in for we go into too much historical depth of analysis what i want to do is to focus on now your overall feeling is this is a land reform paul a policy that is positive for the country in the economy right that's your sentiment london for london form is an imperative the context is important because as we are saying and i think that's part of your report suggests yes the conversation process of the moment zimbabwe needs money most of the africans in zimbabwe still need land including the lady in that clip what does a modern government need to do is to make sure that when people who lost their land

unfairly white people who lost their land unfairly be given to them and indeed there was a lot of core option in the process to suggest that you steal my car and then i pay you back for for for for servicing it is neither here nor there all right let's bring derek into it do you agree overall this is been a positive thing a much needed policy for the country even if some of the details need to be sorted out about how much compensation needs to be paid. well you need to look at land reform policy as to what was happening in two thousand and what was happening in one thousand nine hundred what's happening out at present and what's happening at present and certainly there's a need to revisit the issue around compensation for land but most importantly the most important policy which is required at the moment is to provide secure tenure for land so that those land leases are transferable and what's called bankable here in two thousand there wasn't actually

a land reform policy what was taking place in two thousand has to be viewed in the political context with the land grab that took place in two thousand was more about the retention of power by zanu p.f. than actually what later became the past track land reform program ok so maybe politically expedient economically the alley at the end of the day from an economic perspective what has the land reform policy what sort of impact has it had on the agricultural sector on the economy so the first point to note is that zimbabwe historically was a bread basket its its agricultural production was enormous it was able to feed its country in many of the countries around it and in the last few years we've seen a significant deterioration in production so the issue is you know how do you get

back to a fully functioning productive agricultural sector and where are we now is saying that insincere i'm saying alison give me a little to run thing but let me bring you the argument from supporters of the government who would say maze production for example in two thousand and seventeen is the highest in two decades tobacco production another success story they say that's that five hundred seventy six million dollars worth of it produced in two thousand and seventeen as we say it's been deteriorating in the last few years. well it's statistics isn't it you're comparing it to two decades ago two decades ago was as far as i can remember in one nine hundred ninety seven one thousand nine hundred ninety eight so it depends where you go back towards but i think if you look at it you can't you cannot argue that the agricultural sector in zimbabwe is as productive as it can be so i think you know what one one's going to look at it and and and add in that once we have that admission we can then work forward and say how do we get it back to where it where it could be and i think what president

man and god was trying to do with this fifty two million dollars. compensation is thread a needle he's trying to open up he's trying to refinance he's trying to reopen zimbabwe to the global economy and in order to do that he's got to make some kind of gesture of restitution and i think that's what he's seeking to do the problem in zimbabwe of course is you've got a mickey mouse currency you've got a situation which which cannot go on it's practically venezuelan in terms of the currency and i don't know how it's going to square the circle it becomes very very populist sammy you know the idea that i know there's a historic wrong we all know there's a historic wrong but essentially by grabbing the land and giving it to people are not competent but well positioned with the ruling elite is simply not going to deliver a thriving agriculture sector you made some good wine as a man and god was on their maids and ready good points i want to take them to

joseph so the sort of sentiment i guess from an economist perspective there would you agree with that that this policy hasn't been a success i mean mickey mouse currency is alice said you know the inflation the fact that it's gone from being the breadbasket to. just struggling to try and get the former productivities levels. well i suggested this before the peak of the campaigns for democratic reforms in africa but once upon a time south africa was the most powerful economy on the continent a little mean that it was right now quite clearly the land reform process you know other than the land grab as the. political language is a necessity the issue is really we also need to look at zimbabwe today as a matter of reality and we're totally agree yes this fifty two million is a gesture suggestive to show that the present government is different from that of robert mugabe absolutely absolutely sensible it has to be supported i think this

governments need to be supported to simply say that yes you are giving an element of a gesture what can we do what lessons can we learn but i think if some of the tones of the conversation is such that we must go back to where the argument was between nine hundred ninety seven and the year two thousand we're actually going back to square zero and we're going back to square zero in a risky way in a manner in which but i think that it would and i think it actually a number of the guys that are who are not we have more productive era is what he's trying to say i think. we need to recognize that. this tradition the status quo that it was was not right the fact that some beggar was a breadbasket you know is no dispute but it was a bread basket in which the vast majority of the zimbabwean people the vast majority of the citizens of the african citizen bourbons who is allowed to act literally grabbed by force and in many other ways rather brutally did not have the land the question is how fair has this process been a total agree there has been corruption there's been a nepotism in the process and i think this government talk about london form. audit

process in the last two months i would like to know from them how well and how successful that has gone and that's why i also suggest that for the white people whose land were taken and reasonably unfairly and grabbed by people rather illegally or yes right that must return but part of the process was that this movement it was literally stretching of war in the first ten fifteen years ok ok that commie give alley a chance to come back in on this one briefly because i interrupted him so is it is it good enough to look back and say well it was the breadbasket it was the breadbasket for a minority of people who are benefiting. well you know i look at it in the national interest and it isn't zimbabwe's national interest to produce as much food as possible in order to feed the people and if you look at it this obsession it's a little bit like trump's war you know i appreciate that this land was grabbed unfairly but you know that was then we can't do anything about it now what can we

do now we have to put a come police to farmers on the land to maximize the output and therefore feed our people but if we go around telling people all if you can get a quarter acre or a half acre because it was stolen from you it's just not going to work and i think we it's a very circular argument everybody goes back to the one nine hundred eighty apart take you know ninety five percent of africans are a born free generation they deserve better than these regurgitated arguments about is about history feed our people give them opportunity but it's not going to happen by slicing land up and saying here's a quarter acre here here's restitution and i think that's where the political argument is failing our citizens entirely and the same things happening in south africa rwanda interesting lee i saw in the last two days president gummies taken

the land back because he's realized it's not working so i think we've got to get beyond this historical story it is real it happened but what is the situation right now in the situation now is zimbabwe has the potential to feed itself and the potential to feed a lot of countries around it and that's what they should be well i know for sure joseph is going to have something to say about all of that but before we give we come back to joseph i want to go to derek again and say you know the point that you made about basically stabilizing land ownership rights is that government's current policy. of i think that fifty three million dollars compensation package is that a step in the right direction. well. what i've seen from the conversations so far is that a lot of the politics is being airbrushed out of the discourse if i could just go back a little bit to the to the previous discussion. there was

a conversation as to why no land reform had taken place up until the year two thousand there was a reason for that mccarthy was very aware that some bubbly was agro based economy and that agro based economy was being driven by largely by white farming and also by industry downstream from that that white farming there was an unspoken agreement with the white farmers you stay out of politics and you can keep keep the land and when the whites got involved in politics that's when the land invasion started the zimbabwean economy immediately began declining by ten percent per annum after those invasions took place at a time there when there was a regional economic boom driven by commodity prices and other economies were expanding by about ten percent theirs and bobby an economy collapsed by ten percent per annum so those land invasions it was not a land reform program it was simply a mechanism by which one appeared sought to stay in power and the economy suffered

enormously from that and as yet to recover from that you mentioned that tobacco is picking up it is picking up but it has enormous environmental costs there's deforestation taking place to cure the tobacco this child labor is children suffering from nicotine poisonous cetera it's not a success story it's not a pretty picture yes twenty seventeen was a good year for maids because we had phenomenal rains that year which are unlikely to be repeated it wasn't only the rains are the supporters of the government say of course it was also the government's command agriculture policy as well played a role in that. yes yes that that played a part but the command agriculture policy would have failed dismally had it not been for for the phenomenal rains that we received that ok i could lose them i want to go sorry i'll come back to the moment but i can see joseph was shaking his head

i take it in disagreement and he probably has something to come back with go ahead joseph. rawlins who did very good business good in court in southern africa ted he the british prime minister called him the face of capitalism the claim is would you that you know as long as we jacked ten billion dollars into village it does not matter from in whose hands he's no i think this is a simplistic argument and to the other thing is the risk of this that. we actually airbrushed this process is not true that the problems in zimbabwe started in the year two thousand and i'm lucky to have been party to foreign ministers and things closer from a distance and from clues no it is the case that the failure of the settlement from one thousand eight hundred eighty was it is out of this thing when about the one nine hundred ninety seven when gumby felt and believed that he was being pushed to do it the british way is when this thing all failed in this room one thousand nine

hundred seven by the year two thousand mugabe was simply saying i'm not supporting on this i can i'm just picking for him we're going to simply say that look you guys refused you favor all of the agreements of nine hundred eighty we're going to do it the zimbabwean way what did he do he decided to do it the majority zimbabwe and yes a number of whites lost in this process let's make sure that we compensate the whites were lost in this process but it's in but we cannot be zimbabwe as a nation for a privileged few it has to be a country for all suburban people and you know what the more we brush this the more people down there are other audience are others doing it the right away joe lieberman's of ever gets more popular it's done very well years ago land grabs and that is not addressed properly that's an issue is never going to cause instability no it. it simply led to it it became violent went to became political it became violent when the the allies is to decided to make it in mugabe issue and yes of course there was a blink but immediately the allies with the group got to decided to do it their way

and also it is the case that the allies used to some semblance under the norm i think they were not focusing a lot on the disaster politic i want to bring derek in because he is shaking his head but we can try and look to the to the present because you know we can read history any way we want but is the government now through its land order it a policy is it fixing some of the shortcomings of the whole land reform process they're saying going to take off the land from incompetent farmers or go cronies who haven't really worked the land they're going to look into people have multiple farms that shouldn't have and so on and so forth is that good enough derek. well again one needs to look at the political context here a lot of is being made of the fact that the one i got great ministration says they're going to set aside to the three million for land compensation but again that's political in the morning god government is anxious. to show that property

rights are now being respected and this compensation for land or for other improvements on the land is part and parcel of that apparently new found respect for property rights but one needs to bear in mind that the constitution has always required compensation to be paid for improvements on the land and under the mcgarvey government forty two point seven million dollars had already been paid to white farmers forty three white farmers had been compensated. for improvements before them when i grade ministration cayman so this policy of fifty three million dollars it's not a new policy but being hyped up in order to try and empathise than when i grew government's commitment to property rights that are all right certainly we've now had a land reform commission formed but people are quite skeptical about what will come out of the commission's investigation process only that we've got a couple minutes left on trying to get allien from an economist perspective then

looking forward it's an important thing we're forgetting to mention here candy in cultural sector develops whatever changes domestically are internally made without addressing the problem of sanctions. that's an interesting question i mean my suggestion would be if we're looking into the future is to try and keep these farms intact bring competent people on them who can farm the land maybe to do a structure that was having an inkling taliban and profits are shared and distributed and that and that's distributed amongst the people because if you're just going to put it in if you're going to save yourself let's stick everybody on the land and see what happens nothing's going to happen and just a final point. is trying to thread a needle here he needs to find a lot of cash to reignite this economy he hasn't found it yet if he doesn't find it he's going the way of. ensuite downside i think it is the one he has to in the

numbers not is not of the old it in policy i know it is audit policy doing that at least in the first point which you made which i don't want farms in the hands of people who can't do anything productive with it. i think it's he's trying to do it if i look at the continuum of in africa i don't think he's done enough i don't think he's been bold enough i think he's talked the talk but he hasn't walked it and until we see that happen i don't see the recovery happening in zimbabwe and what we've got a final minute let me give it to joseph then is the government effort to engage countries which are imposing sanctions like the u.s. failing since we saw for example i think it was december the twentieth a new round of u.s. penalties imposed. yeah i think that all this program in a different context that actually that's unfortunate that. the the western allies have not sufficiently responded to this government and it's actually fairly true that yes maybe this fifty to fifty three million dollars may be hived probably as

a result of that but of what i need to say is this that actually it would be better and reason unfair for us to suggest that africans who are landless you know are incompetent when we there is no evidence that they have been had the opportunity to do farm without doing that because other than zimbabwe and south africa you know my native uganda we have done rather well that necessarily having in a specialist agricultural include from a specialist farmers. i missed and surely would have something to say about ugandans given the land back you made that point earlier but i think we're going to have to leave the discussion there for now and thank all of our guests for coming in and sharing their insights derek allie and joseph and thank you too for watching you can see the show again any time by visiting our website al-jazeera dot com for the discussion head over to our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story can also join the conversation on twitter and there is at a.j. inside story from me sam is a band and the whole team here for now it's goodbye. rewind

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government shutdown. a plea for help yemenis make their case to the u.n. special envoy about the devastating impact of the war. find out why organizers of this year's dakar rally are so eager for the competitors to stay on course. voters in the democratic republic of congo will have to wait another week to find the preliminary results of last month's presidential election the outcome was expected to be announced on sunday but that of the election commission says it's only counted less than half the votes is lower but many. it's been delay after delay and patience is wearing thin people in the democratic republic of congo were fast promised election results on sunday now some time next week.

joseph kabila has clung on to his presidency since his term ended two years ago despite that he says he will step down after seventeen years in power he hopes emmanuel roman son is shaddai would take his place a man who played a role in the violent suppression of opposition protest in two thousand and seventeen shut her ears up against two main opposition front promise for more oil executive martin failed and the son of the late opposition leader felix just. the united nations security council held a closed door meeting with representatives calling for transparency in the election results we call on all actors for call and restraint the olding of these consultations underlines the will of the security council to maintain a very attentive monitoring of the electoral process but opposition members are suspicious of delays due to possible results tempering.

the coalition. against any attempt to change the results posted in front of the polling stations and hold it responsible for all consequences. it's been the election fraught with issues there's been violence on the streets out of vote he was caught up in three opposition strongholds benny but temple and he'll be him. government officials say it was due to security concerns and in the polar outbreak that many saw that as an excuse to disrupt elections and just days before the election a blaze broke out in a warehouse in the capital. disjoint thousands of voting machines the u.s. has positioned military personnel in neighboring. the white house says its imposition to support the security of united states citizens personnel and diplomatic facilities in. delays in elections have in the past led to bloodshed on

the streets but international pressure is building with the un african union and the u.s. now calling on the government to ensure a peaceful democratic transition. nor about unmanly al-jazeera. the u.s. president is expected to hold a meeting with senior staff at camp david on sunday as the partial government shutdown enters day sixteen white house officials met senior democratic congressional members on saturday but still haven't found a way to break the deadlock president is refusing to sign a bill to fund the government until he gets more than five billion dollars to build a wall along the border with mexico dynasty brooke has the latest now from washington. vice president mike pence jarrett cushion or the president's son in law and close advisor and kiersten nielsen who is the secretary of homeland security met for about two hours on saturday afternoon with congressional aides talking

about this government shutdown the vice president said that these talks on saturday were productive however president trump tweeted that the two sides really didn't make much headway now the vice president is going to be continuing these talks while president trump is going to be meeting with some of his senior aides at camp david presidential retreat meanwhile house speaker nancy pelosi announced that house democrats are going to be meeting next week to pass individual appropriations bills that would reopen some agencies including the department of treasury and the i.r.s. so the government could begin processing income tax returns and get income tax refunds back in the hands of americans now this shutdown if it goes another week that would be three weeks and it would make it the longest shutdown in u.s. history. well the politicians continue to argue eight hundred thousand government

workers still going without a or they're not working at all and that's creating a problem for essential services across the country some transportation security agents who screen passengers at airports have been calling in sick because they don't want to work without pay the program providing food assistance to some thirty million low income americans could face drastic cuts if the shutdown continues and staffing levels of national parks have been severely reduced the government's decided to keep most open political analyst eric says the partial shutdown is going to have a devastating effect on workers and communities. if this shutdown goes another week this will be the first time within the shutdown that federal workers are not receiving paychecks and so think about that you have now that the holidays are over college students are going back to school and you have parents who are not working and so the question becomes do they pay mortgages or do they pay college tuition do

they pay for groceries or do they pay utilities and so these are some of the bread and butter issues that people are faced with now as this shutdown continues to lome and they hear the president say that this shutdown he could take the shutdown for a year or four years that i'm sure has many workers hitting the panic button on how they were actually survive going forward because when you look at those eight hundred thousand employees many of those eight hundred thousand employees are not within washington d.c. they're scattered throughout the country and so think about small businesses think about food trucks that may set up around government offices or building and though those are small businesses and now that those workers aren't coming into the office that's putting a crimp on small businesses opportunities to earn as well so we're not just talking about a hundred thousand employees going without paychecks we're talking about the residual

small businesses and other entities that will not be getting paid as a result of these federal workers not working and so i mean it's a ripple effect and i just don't think either the president or even congress really understands what's at stake and i think we're going to really see the pressure ramp up next week when we see government workers start losing paychecks. the u.s. national security adviser is in israel on a two day visit and is due to meet the prime minister benjamin netanyahu in the coming hours john bolton is expected to address israeli concerns over the withdrawal of u.s. troops from syria there are worries that it will allow greater iranian influence mr bolton will then head for turkey has promised to take the lead in the fight against eisel in syria but it reportedly wants u.s. military support to continue even after the troops pull out joins us live now from the turkey syria border mohammed what do you think mr bolton central message to israel is today that

well it is we've got your back and we are not actually going completely out of the middle east syria in particular of calls these ships here would be about demands demands turkey ha's from the united states and hope on those lists is that they disarm kurdish why do you fight as the united states defense forces. if for the fight against. they have described the why pedia as the most effective force against the eyes still of the hate of the war against the group. turkey can see does the white be a terrorist organization an extension of the kurdish workers' party p k k n does multi want them on the whole being controlling and attended to near its

border and already taki trying to get the kurdish forces out of numbers they also want to just to call and support from the united states once they take all the the or all of finishing off what remains of i still fight this war holed up in the south and a lot of the country quite near the border with iraq so clearly for mr bolton there's a big difference between american involvement and american support when it comes to very specifically what turkey wants to do wants to carry on doing across the border inside northern syria yes indeed and it would be turkey would be forceful waiting to see what they would come in with a clear timetable for withdrawal because u.s. officials have been changing tone so all times in the past days about what exact to

the u.s. withdrawal with hoppin and then they will resign them with holes told to moms and which u.s. officials have already intimated that there will be a willing to accept particularly the issue of all fighting turkish forces but just to call them support which they will definitely need is they try and root out what the remains of are so fighters in syria mohammed thanks very much. the u.n. special envoy is back in yemen trying to convince both sides in the water fully comply with the ceasefire agreement there are hopes that the warring sides will agree to meet later this month possibly in kuwait as a young story. an attempt at piecing together a broken ceasefire the u.s. envoy martin griffiths is back in yemen calling on warring sides to follow the truce they agreed to months of negotiations cracked within weeks he was met by

cancer patients who demand the sun the airport be reopened they are among the thousands of patients who cannot travel out of yemen for life saving treatments one of the many consequences of the ongoing war like a national leader. we would like to tell the world that they are those who are besieging us and saunas and in the rest of the provinces that there are those who prevent us from water and medicine equipment facilities and medical devices every day we have six thousand passengers who cannot leave this airport there have been reports of attacks and repeated violations a mother and her child were killed in the residential area of tiny's at least sixteen people were injured by who the artillery shelling. on friday at least fifteen.