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reports that the white house may ask for money now a partition for disaster relief to be diverted toward building the wall instead and that may not be very popular with the american public now all of this said trump has publicly wavered back and forth in the last few days even in the last few hours about whether or not to make a border disaster declaration and he said today at the white house that if congress does not give him the border while finding he still will make that declaration this is more of what he said i'd rather do it because this is something that congress should usually do this is something that the democrats should do and i don't want to give an easy way out of something as simple as this not only simple it's easy and it's going to say you're a you know we have a country that is under siege you could actually you know a lot of people don't like the word invasion we have
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a country that's being invaded by criminals and by drugs and we're going to stop it so i want the democrats to come back to washington and vote. so that. the president is prevailing upon the democratic policies to come back and vote what are the democrats saying have they actually gone away for the weekend. well they have adjourned but it's not just the democrats it's also republicans who have adjourned both chambers of congress for the weekend so there will not be any movement until monday at the very earliest but the real problem is that none of the parties involved in these negotiations really have an incentive to compromise from the democrats' perspective they think they have the moral upper hand and they believe that the majority of americans in polling at least show that they are opposed to building trumps border wall republicans feel that they have to support their president who is still very popular with the republican base and when it
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comes to trump himself he knows that building this border wall is the primary campaign promise that he made to his base and him him and his advisors know that his reelection very much depends on prevailing in this so there's very little to bring all three of these parties together to find any middle ground though perhaps as a face saving measure there was a little bit of progress because congress did pass a bill that would eventually give these federal workers their back pay once this shutdown is ended trump has said he will sign that into law but the big question hanging over that is when will the shutdown end and at this point still nobody knows martine thank you very much. in washington d.c. still to come here it is there. is about iraq's highly fortified green zone and why is getting the green light. rather this is grandiose on into
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a saudi teenager leaving her family. from blowing a hole in the winds to an inch hole and that's it riis. hello again welcome back we are cross china we are looking at better weather than what we had seen earlier in the week where we had seen a lot of rain and even some snow up towards the north we're going to be seeing over the next few days though is basically clear conditions down along the coast for hong kong you can be seen about twenty five degrees for joe not a bad day for you as well at twenty but it is going to be in the single digits anywhere up towards shanghai as we go towards sunday though we are going to be seeing more clouds in the forecast there a possible shower for shanghai with a temperature of eleven degrees well as i make our way down here toward south asia
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we're going to be still quite wet down here towards the south really not looking too bad up here towards the north we may sing a passing show over here towards men attempt a few of about thirty four degrees and very humid well up towards manila though it's going to stay dry mostly cloudy conditions where the temps are there thirty staying that way as we go through sunday as well and then here across parts of india not looking too bad across the central regions we do have some clouds across the north that could also bring some snow to the higher elevations but down here toward the south it has been rainy across parts of sri lanka and that will continue unfortunately as we go through the weekend colombo's going to be seeing a temperature of about thirty degrees then as we go up here towards nagpur how the high twenty's for you at twenty nine degrees in kolkata not a bad day with a temperature of about twenty six. the weather sponsored by cats our enemies. it could be the biggest land grab in history. as powerful nations lay claim to territories under the oceans twenty one geologists are secretly plotting new
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borders. as the struggle for resources intensifies some of the world's most powerful scientists speak out. oceans manakin on a. let's have a look at the top stories here it out the runner up in the democratic republic of congo presidential election is about to challenge the result in cold citing the catholic church election observers says he won more than sixty percent of the vote . is on his eight day tour of the middle
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east he says the u.s. will continue to support its allies in the fight against despite its military withdrawal from syria. president has backed away from his threat to declare a national emergency to pay for his controversial border wall he told reporters congress must do its job and vote to approve more than five billion dollars in funding for the war. in caracas opponents of nicolas maduro have protested as he begins his second term as venezuela's president an opposition rally was held outside the local office of the organization of american states the head of the opposition run congress has challenge majorities write to the presidency saying he is ready to assume power himself and call new elections today's a boat has more from the venezuelan capital. i'm here at this coming straight that's been organized by the opposition controlled national assembly this is
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expected to be a first step towards what's going to be the beginning of what they say are going to be protests against precedent because what they're basically saying is that they won't recognize this presidency and they're going to take national security to force her into the special there's no divisions within the opposition right now we're hearing that some members of the opposition want to name the president of the national assembly one white balls as the new president of the republic and there are others who say that this is going to something like this is going to follow force this type of situation has generated lots of tension here in venezuela because the government has already threatened the opposition and the national assembly that the assembly could be shut down if they continue to ignore the presidency of nicolas modeling spite of this people here have gathered there are not massive like that like they were last year in this past year we have seen members of the opposition persecuted many have left the country some have been jailed so it's out completely different scenario from what we saw last year during
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the demonstrations against the president in spite of that most of the people we have spoken to here are saying that their whole state that this is a first step most of the people that are here are hoping that the international pressure will force the government to negotiate and the government has said so far that even though the united states did not recognize its governmental not the group which is composed of countries in the region to not acknowledge the presidency of the pullout modeler saying that there were ninety seven representatives during his inauguration including representatives from countries like china russia and many other nations around the world and that's why mother was basically saying that there's a that he won't recognize the type of international pressure. the british foreign secretary jeremy hunt says the nation may have to stay in the european union if parliament rejects prime minister terry's amaze bret's it deal friday marked the
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third day of formal breck's a debate in london ahead of a vote should just a tuesday the deal agreed with the e.u. has been criticised by m.p.'s across the political spectrum and looks unlikely to pass we can no longer assume that by rejecting this deal there will be a better shade of broke sit and what is more likely if this deal is rejected is that we have the risk of bricks at paralysis and. when that happens no one knows what might happen and the big risk more people worry about is that we don't actually deliver what people voted for a saudi woman who fled to thailand saying she feared her family would kill her is now on her way to canada after being granted asylum rough mohamed al commune had barricaded herself in an airport heard tell in bangkok the eighteen year old received global attention after launching a social media campaign the canadian prime minister confirmed her asylum request has been granted. the u.n. h.c.r.
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has made a request of canada that we accept. as a refugee and we have accepted the un's request that we grant her asylum that is something that we are pleased to do because canada is a country that understands how important it is to stand up for human rights to stand up for women's rights around the world and i can confirm that we have accepted the un's request. canada has been unequivocal that we will always stand up for human rights and women's rights around the world this is part of a long tradition of canada engaging constructively and positively in the world and working with our partners allies and with the united nations and when the united nations made a request of us that we grant. asylum we we we accept alex the secretary general of amnesty international canada he says the prime
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minister's decision to grant the saudi teenager asylum wasn't about politics. certainly within the business community there are many who are concerned about the fraying nature of the relationship with saudi arabia so as much as he may take some praise there will be others who will criticize him for this and so at the end of the day i really think that this is a decision that was taken not for political reasons but but really because it was the principal thing to do it was this young woman was in a very difficult situation potentially even life threatening of sent back to saudi arabia she had expressed real interest obviously not only in canada but certainly canada was one of the countries she didn't decayed and she would really feel safe in and i think the canadian government prime minister trudeau simply did the right thing and almost three months since the devastating earthquake and tsunami destroyed parts of central sin away z. and thousands of survive as a still living in tents while aid has been pouring in to this part of indonesia
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people say a lack of coordination is hampering distribution and relocation has been slow to set vessel reports from palin. the name of this small fishing boat sums up the mood and tragedy so five two waves as high as palm trees on september twenty eight well many other boats were destroyed like the one owned by hamidi for months he has not been able to a living. thank god because my boat and nets are damaged i cannot work and just sit here doing nothing though i'm disappointed but i can only wait and see what the government will do for me. although i'm not so patient whose son has started to rebuild his house right by the sea after his village was destroyed his community moved to the hills many now have returned to restart a business selling dried fish despite a government plan to relocate them to safer areas than this and i'm going to do when i'm in the hills i can only eat and sleep here because fish is already been
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coming in i have to work. the gun. plans to build temporary houses for fifteen hundred families but survivors complain the construction process is too slow after living in tents for months of privacy are growing impatient extreme heat and the rainy season making it unbearable to live here despite the outpouring of help say it's taking too long for their life to return to normal. eight from all over the world has reached the area but some promise donations have yet to arrive a government adviser was in charge of rebuilding after the indian ocean tsunami in two thousand and four blames a lack of coordination and too many regulation is. still like this. because. they see.
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wrong. but the government denies that rebuilding is slow and says it's very capable of dealing with the aftermath of the disaster in contrast from the relief efforts after the tsunami and this one is relying less on foreign aid organizations and is trying to involve local communities as much as possible in this case we were only asked to support them with support services in terms of logistics base camp support and. this is somewhat new for us because we have many other services that we could provide but a stronger the national society the more they will shift towards the support services. for many does new approach shows that indonesia has come a long way since previous disasters and his neighbors say they are beginning to restart their lives with or without help from the government steps fast and al-jazeera. people in the zimbabwean capital harare have been waiting
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a week for fuel some measures have just left their colors at the nearest petrol say . in long queues one man said he'd been in his car for four days zimbabwe's deputy information minister claims people from neighboring countries had taken advantage of the country's low prices and helped cause the shortage. that getting around baghdad is a little bit easier for most people these days i have a green zone has been a symbol of insecurity for years but now security forces are effectively declaring the iraqi capital safe they've removed checkpoints and barriers around. they call it the transition from green to blue where greenbury army soldiers give up control to the blue berets of the iraqi police force traffic can now easily pass through baghdad's international zone also known as the green zone without checks and special passes a situation unthinkable just a year ago. under the old as
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a promised i'd love to lead the officials across major cities in iraq and remove checkpoints and concrete barriers designed to protect against suicide in kabul the prime minister even took a very public walk around baghdad on monday and transitioning from green to blue for iraq something inevitable this came after the end of the military operations against isola cross iraq there's a ground for the iraqi police to handle security and leave other military forms outside the main cities the european union advisory mission to iraq is pushing into that direction in collaboration with the police force for several reasons on top of them getting rid from eisel threat. the green zone is home to iraqi political establishment and foreign embassies according to the american media the us has its concerns over the green zone opening up its embassy in iraq is the largest of its diplomatic missions in the world the european union advised relation to iraq is helping iraqi police deal with security but insists it's the iraqis who are leading
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the charge the mission is important because at the moment we are in the phase where in iraq after winning the war against there's the security forces police is in a transition phase from more paramilitary. force to a superior. local police force the people in the city it's been i think to drive around the green zone an area denied to them for the last fifteen years. when i first crossed the bridge leading to the green zone i was in tears for fifteen years we were deprived from these roads we are so happy that. the green zone is open for the public families and employers can drive through now usually before this issue of mint gone are the days of roads being shut down with concrete walls gone our traffic jams this is a relief for iraqi people in. keeping baghdad requires
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a large and coordinated operation which begins at four am with iraqi police forces fanning out across the city. and it's not just the green zone over the city streets . as you can see the removal of these concrete barriers is quite a major operation but it is a crucial one not only does it ease congestion on the roads of baghdad but it gives people a sense that things are safe in the city and these things are being repeated across iraq al jazeera baghdad. stay with us i'll have the headlines. in just a minute. at. the top stories the runner up in the democratic republic of congo a presidential election is about to challenge the result in court citing catholic church election. of more than sixty percent of the vote
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declared rival opposition candidate for. just eighteen percent. syrian state media is reporting israel has fired several missiles towards the capital damascus unconfirmed reports suggest the strikes were launched near the city's airport most of them was shot down by air defenses syria says one of the strikes damaged a warehouse in the capital's airport u.s. secretary of state might pompei is in his eight day tour of the middle east he says the u.s. will continue to support its allies in the fight against eisel despite its military withdrawal from syria president donald trump has backed away from his threat to declare a national emergency to pay for his controversial border wall he told reporters congress must do its job and vote to approve more than five billion dollars in funding for the war i'd rather not do it because this is something that congress
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should easily do this is something that the democrats should do and i want to give an easy way out of something as simple as this not only simple it's easy and it's going to secure our you know we have a country that is under siege you could actually get a lot of people don't like the word invasion we have a country that's being invaded by criminals and by drugs and we're going to stop so i want the democrats to come back to washington and vote the partial government shutdown has sparked protests around the country thousands of workers didn't get paid on friday federal employees have been talking about how the shutdown has affected their families. opponents of nicolas maduro have protested as he begins his second term as venezuela's president an opposition rally was held outside the local office of the organization of american states the head of the opposition run
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congress his challenge from a daughter's rights to the presidency saying he's ready to assume power himself and cool new elections today those are the very latest headlines for us here at al-jazeera i'll be back in about thirty minutes but us off the inside story. remembering jamal khashoggi a hundred days after his marriage to turkey wants a saudi suspects to stand trial in istanbul will justice ever be served or will diplomatic and trade links overall human lights principles this is insight story.
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hello and welcome to the program i'm fully back to one hundred days since the murder of jamal high shoji friends politicians and human rights activists have all been honoring the saudi journalist they organized a vigil at the saudi consulate in istanbul where he was killed three months ago and a memorial service was held in the u.s. congress in washington some members are pressuring president trump to revaluate relations with saudi arabia and its crown prince mohammed bin solomon who is widely suspected of ordering the killing if we decide the commercial interest should override. the statements that we make in the actions that we take then we must admit that we have lost all moral authority to
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talk about any atrocities anywhere any time we must carry a mission to defend the free press our strongest bulwark against injustice and friends and former colleagues of. stepping up their demands for justice the story is not just about the murder of one innocent journalist jamal's killing is part of an escalating attack against press freedom is being waged by tyrants around the world and that's why we can't just let them all story fade away his assassination in many ways i believe is a red line it's a threshold where those who believe in human rights and those who believe in free speech must stand firm against those who would callously snuff them out while let's look back at the main events in the murder investigation high shoji was killed in the saudi consulate in istanbul on october the second eight days later turkish
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investigators identified nineteen saudi suspects they included a so-called hit squad the tech to say the fifteen man team killed her shoji and dismembered his body in november the u.s. treasury impose sanctions on seventeen saudis among them the royal court advisor tani a few days later a us media reported the cia's conclusion that the saudi crown prince ordered the killing president donald trump defended mohammed bin salman saying we may never know all the facts the u.s. senate passed a resolution last month holding mohammed been summoned responsible songe arabia said it put eleven suspects on trial last week but didn't name them techies leaders say the culprits should stand trial in istanbul and if the saudis refused to hand them over they'll be tried in absentia. well let's bring in our panel now from istanbul matthew brize
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a senior fellow at the atlantic council a former u.s. ambassador to azerbaijan and former white house official in beirut we have rami kouri professor of journalism at the american university of beirut and nonresident senior fellow at harvard university and from cornwall in the u.k. on skype david haye human rights lawyer and co-founder of the legal consultancy sterling hay and detained international welcome to you all thank you for being on inside story ronnie corey. was your friend has anything positive come about in the last one hundred days that make you hopeful that justice will be set for tomorrow i would say yes there are some hopeful signs as well as some negative ones the most interesting i think and significant thing is the incredible bred depths and continuity of serious international concern about what happened to her about the behavior of the so the government the apparent connections with the crown prince
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his office clearly him possibly and the lying that the saudis did for a month or two about this the cover up of these things have generated tremendous pushback internationally in the media and civil society some businesses and government actions in some cases postponing weapons deals and things like that so the intrusion into the governance system and the actions of the saudi government at the highest level of the crown prince's levy of the crown prince affectively runs the country at the very highest level this intrusion is unprecedented it's continuing and it's going to probably get more intense when the american congress fully expresses itself with legislation in the coming weeks probably matthew bryza in istanbul your thoughts has anything concrete been done to bring justice to this gruesome murder. well nothing in the sense of a legal case that signaled seen the light of day in actual prosecution that's true
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one step that could be taken would be to renew calls for an international investigation an international tribunal to try those the perpetrators of this murder but the political winds have shifted i think quite dramatically in washington again that's not bringing justice to to the murderer murderers but that is changing the climate dramatically we've already seen in the u.s. senate a bipartisan vote fifty six to forty one condemning the murder and in solomon crown prince and i think what we've seen a precipitous drop in foreign direct investment into saudi arabia since. death so there are consequences but still not justice you say the political winds have shifted matthew but my compare the u.s. secretary of state delivered a speech in cairo on u.s. foreign policy on thursday with zero mention of jamal khashoggi the u.s. senate as you say pass a resolution holding the conference responsible and yet we have seen nothing else
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since so do you expect any further action from the white house or from congress i don't expect anything from the white house i expect the white house to resist this tooth and nail and try to sweep it all under the rug which is essentially what secretary pompei owes a speech in cairo tried to do but at the same time i definitely expect more action in congress as i said a moment ago that resolution enjoyed bipartisan support many republicans president trumps closest ally in the senate lindsey graham has been one of the most outspoken critics of muhammad been silent for many things especially the murder of jamal so i think we'll see the house of representatives vote on that resolution in fact that was passed by the senate now that the democrats have taken over and i i think we may see further steps beyond what the congress voted in december two. to stop us aid deliveries for the war in yemen we made a we made our stop u.s. action in yemen sorry we may see an actual end of the weapons deliveries voted in
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by the congress right david haye in cornwall has a matthew says ever growing calls for an international investigation this international in fact says the only thing that will guarantee justice is an international investigation under the auspices of the united nations what needs to happen for the u.s. to get involved is it just up to turkey or are other western countries also needing to be involved at the stage where i mean i agree with that i think it's we only need to look at the point about of phrases and even in international the game of thrones if you like of politics and commercial interests even in one country the u.s. we see the president on one side the senate the cia on the other and when we then look at that and compare it to the legal side i agree that the united nations and some form of special tribunal involving turkey perhaps similar to the tribe you know used in lebanon is the way forward because clearly what is happening in saudi
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isn't hasn't been set up in accordance with international principles of justice and also when we look at turkey it's clear that saudi will not send the people to turkey so in terms of real justice for jim out holding court and hearing this in either country where the others are either never going to be extradited or on the present isn't going to get real justice so you believe that a trial in of censure that turkey is calling for right now is not going to achieve anything. well it will it will achieve no doubt convictions against the individuals but the individuals who are main insanity now that you may be able to have you know who holds on that travel but if they don't intend to travel what justice is that to jim out let's bring back into the conversation rami on turkey's role here turkey many people will say has a responsibility to continue putting the pressure on the international community
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for justice to be achieved for jamaal for jamal khashoggi what is turkey in the current geopolitical context still willing to put that pressure is turkey still willing to be at the forefront of the quest for justice for democracy. it's not clear if turkey is going to keep the pressure up and if it's gonna keep demanding justice for. or if it's going to make deals with the united states and the saudis and others for things like containment of the kurdish militias or other issues but turkey is not on trial here the saudi killers and liars uncover uppers and assassins and butchers and body dissolving and acid there's those of the people who are on trial and this is really the central question that we have to keep our focus on and i would just add one point. the beginning you had a clip showing the people in the united states talking about press freedom and
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press freedom this is way beyond press freedom and jamelle of knowledge of his life he was a journalist but this is about the dignity of four hundred million arab people men and women all over the arab world who simply want to live a decent normal dignified life not to be lied to and not to be threatened not to be curtailed in their human ambitions to live a normal decent life and the media is just one dimension of this and free expression but it goes way beyond that it's a question of decent citizenship in arab countries and this is a huge battle and one of the reasons that people are fighting back in saudi arabia and the emirates and behind and egypt and other places in the arab world they're pushing back against this is because they don't want to have normal citizenship for their people they want to maintain an autocratic authoritarian system of rule there and they have a law allies and netanyahu and israel and trump and the united states so this is a battle that's going to go on for some time throughout the region in the world
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a battle that's going to go on for some time romney who he says matthew what do you see a standing in the way of an international independent investigation. well the main thing is a lack of leadership by the executive branch of the united states government and i think meeting president trump himself he is never going to show that leadership obviously he's going to do everything ass he possibly can to as i said to to hide the facts he is at war with the free press he calls it fake news he despises the washington post where jamal had his column so you get no leadership out of the white house if the congress does what i was predicting it will do as i said before that will generate some momentum and perhaps then perhaps turkey will feel that it's got sufficient political cover to to take a risk of further antagonizing saudi arabia with which it has poor relations and as we just heard with which it is likely maybe to be able to do something for the
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united states quote unquote in terms of helping to contain iran and so i think turkey would probably be the most likely candidate to call for that investigation if there's some u.s. leadership that it need to ask them to say any of that turkey has been somewhat dialing back because of perhaps a deal made between trump and adeline what are your thoughts on this. yeah i see no evidence of that it's certainly possible i think equally plausible is that turkey has been president in his intelligence services and said our law enforcement agencies they've run out of salacious details i mean if it wasn't for the turkish government the leak of the details of this horrendous crime we probably still wouldn't know them so i think i've always been thinking at some point they run out of things to leak and then turkey's leverage is gone so i think now turkey has to decide does it want to try to recreate some more leverage by virtue of calling for this international tribunal david a just coming back to the legal aspect for
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a moment there's a trial that's underway in saudi arabia a saudi arabia said this week open last week that eleven of the suspects were brought before a judge in the first criminal court of riyadh but none of the suspects were named very little detail of what was actually happening in that courtroom they say even anyone who believes that the saudis a serious about achieving justice. i think it's fairly clear and the united nations already indicated that those hearings are not being held in accordance with international principles and i think it's fairly clear that this is nothing more than a show trial. in a want to get it right bad p.r. stunt essentially to try and cover up what's happened and it's it's not going to work but that that they are also going to pursue that they are actually going to one would imagine come to a conclusion that people are guilty all jamal's murder and they will then i would imagine trying to sweep that under the carpet you will then i imagine also then
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have to keep pursuing action and the reality is we said earlier is that the the only body i believe that's able to actually have some effect will be some form a special tribunal set up with turkey and the u.n. in the international community when it but i know as you know is also politicized to some extent i mean will a u.n. let investigation really bring the real perpetrators in those in order to the crime to justice. well that's the issue that i was going to raise with we were also looking at the individuals that carried out these unspeakable acts but it's also about the people that all that them now obviously took in the west is pointing at the crown prince did it go higher did it go to the king and. how can we hold those people to account and bring to justice which amount is the u.n. able to do that it's a it's a it's a question which is very difficult to answer. rami khouri your thoughts on the un's role here will they be able to bring the perpetrators to justice if indeed this case was referred to the u.n. . experience shows that the u.n.
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can do nothing if one of the five members of the security council permanent members doesn't want it done in issues of veto it seems like the united states will under trump is going to continue opposing any serious international investigation into this murder unless something happens to change that trump position which is unlikely but we can't completely rule it out it's possible something might happen and and trump might realize that he just simply has to go along with an international investigation but i doubt that we're going to get anything out of the united nations it's interesting that the main sources of pressure on the saudis for the last hundred days have been a civil society the media all over the world and some political personalities individually rather than large political groupings with a couple of governments coming in here and there so i think we should expect that kind of diverse the fuse pressure to keep persisting and
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pressuring the saudis as much as possible matthew in istanbul is not just a key it's not it's just the u.s. even though the u.s. has a big role in this of course what about the rest of the international community western countries germany the u.k. ken can you know can we count on support from some of these countries or have trade and diplomatic relations basically overruled any human rights france will see. i think we should be relying on them i think that going back to these comments about . about the arab world and its dignity this is an issue that transcends any geographic boundaries as i was saying about president trump's war on the free media this is about the fundamental values of all democracies anywhere on earth so where the japanese where the french where are the brits where the germans i mean they should i hope the dutch for example will all be. building momentum for a case like this to be to be taken to the united nations i don't think therefore
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that they're simply bought off by the commercial interests i mean that's part of what keeps them quiet of course but none of them i think are as certainly not as brazen in their comments and probably not in their thoughts as president trump was when he when he said openly that yeah we've got all these arms deals we have to worry about preserving and therefore we have to ignore our values i don't think that the leaders of western europe or of japan think in those terms so hopefully we'll see them become more vocal and yes they haven't been three months now over one hundred days and they haven't become more vocal how do you explain that romney . i explain it by saying that there are issues related to sovereignty and some cases that simply cannot be overcome the saudis are a sovereign country they do a lot of things that the world criticizes that i criticize them out criticised but they are in the end a sovereign country they can circle the wagons and refuse to deal with any of these
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external investigations as a lot of people in the world who think that the president of the united states is a dangerous person for the world on things like climate change and other issues and trade but they can't demand that the american president change his secretary of state or change his vice president so the sovereignty issue really comes into play here and this is an obstacle that the world has endured over the last forty fifty years in trying to push the arab countries towards a more pluralistic tolerant and can a consultative and accountable governance systems and has had zero impact in doing this was only there but uprisings that pushed one country tunisia into a democratic transformation so this is a real problem you know if a country refuses to do something that is related to its internal behavior and this is what the saudis see this as then it's sometimes impossible to make them change
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unless intense pain can be brought to bear if the entire world the said decidedly no longer to trade with saudi arabia which is not going to happen but something really intense or the saudi leadership wants to make official visits and the other countries say we refuse to meet with you unless you show us some effort should choose body. this unless something like that happens there may be a point at which the world can say look we can't do anymore david haye i mean there is some form of justice that has that has kicked off i mean this trial in saudi arabia even if you know a lot of people are not hopeful about what it when achieve a possible verdict also end turkey in absentia and. and what what else do you see happening here as far as justice is concerned like that i think of it i think the u.n. is is is perhaps the most favored option but as we've seen in in the case of it in argentina now crown prince travels widely and if trump and the un don't come to the right conclusions then there are ways and means in which you know using universal
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jurisdiction and various other aspects other countries can't at the very least make it very difficult on the crown prince to travel. and and going forward and i think those it's a very interesting area to be in at the moment because as i said at the beginning you've got so many commercial interests and other vested interests. and they are also affecting the justice that our sea i matthew in istanbul istanbul is of course way this horrible crime was committed one hundred days on what would you say the dust has settled on this case. i don't think it's settled inside the turkish government based on the senior leaders i know but in a metaphorical sense unfortunately it has i mean there hasn't been much coverage about it not not even here on al-jazeera you guys really kept the flame alive longer than anybody. this one hundred days and every street helps but i'm afraid you're right
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that the dust has settled too to a certain degree notwithstanding the civil society activity that romney mentioned but i think i think we're in grave danger of that justice never being paid because there's not a strong power in the world right now you often played the role played by the us that's willing to get everybody organized and get pushing so i worry that this will fade away and you know what everybody considers justice who was listened to with the cia's conclusion is that there would be consequences personally for the crown prince whether it be a legal verdict or political pain or embarrassment or people who were dreaming that maybe he loses his crown prince status that's not going to happen i think how we define justice in this case it is importance of the of course we would like those full legal consequences and political consequences to be meted out rami who are in beirut and ask you give you the last word matthew says he worries that this will
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fade how do we keep the flame live how do we ensure that western governments are accountable and that there we ensure that they're not giving the green light for such an action to happen again. it's very hard to come up with a strategy to ensure that justice will be done but i think in this case we have a few pointers that we might look at for one thing saudi society is a society that unlike all arab societies and most societies in the world but particularly the so it is they put a lot of importance on honor their national honor if the honor of saudi arabia is besieged this bisbee smirched and and and hurt by constant international attention to what they have done a lot of saudis may feel intensely angry and humiliated by what's going on and possibly there may be internal pressure and so to arabia the other thing is the
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international experience with the anti apartheid movement against south africa the international movement now for the b.d.s. legislation to protest the israeli colonization and policies if international intense pressure keeps building up building up building up it's possible that that also could at some point trigger a slow change within saudi arabia we're not going to see a fast change where the king suddenly changes the crown prince but you might see a whittling away of his powers possibly you might see other people starting to speak up and so dear abid the problem is they're all afraid they're all afraid of being chopped up with a with a bone saw and having their body parts dissolved and nasa does happen to children so perhaps some television station around the world or some civil society group will do a simulation of what happens when you chop up a body and put it in acid and of course just a real simulation not the real thing and this would have been great great anger to so does and shame to a lot of so it is an lot of muslims and arabs around the world and this something
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things like that possibly might come up one day and creates a shock and that herm's at the trial and don't forget about jamal khashoggi thank you so much gentlemen for a very interesting discussion matthew bryza rami koori and david haye and thank you as well for watching you can always washes program again. any time by visiting our website at al jazeera dot com for further discussion go to our facebook page at facebook dot com for inside story you can of course also join the conversation on twitter the handle is that inside story for me for back to go and the whole team here in doha thank you for watching by for now. to. the.
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in the next episode of science in a golden age i'll be exploring the contributions made by scholars during the medieval islamic period in the field of mathematics. the term algebra can be traced back to the arabic word. we're going to the limits of modern technology forty percent falls to the speed of sound they gave us the final building block find they discovered it met ableton is a story science from a golden marriage with jim alkalinity on al-jazeera. the latest news as it breaks in a poll just out sixty five percent of people said that they think it would do a great or a good job with details of coverage is the second time this year doctors walked out on strike the governess find about a single suspension. from the around the world increased warning level columns of a blow to the falsehoods of people displaced by the tsunami of wanting to return
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home. five families fight to survive in twenty first century america i live off my credit cards mine i don't make enough money the last couple months it's been minimum balances can only keep their heads above water in a tough economic climate companies have had to lay off thousands of workers if he wants to go to school he'll be trained for his classes in books and knowledge that he can't do that on the walgreen's down. just zero. hello again i'm martin dennis into how these are the top stories here it out is there are the runner up in the democratic republic of congo presidential election as vowed to challenge the resulting court citing catholic church election observers
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massive failure says he won with more than sixty percent of the vote he claims the declared winner rival opposition candidate felix she is a kennedy got just eighteen percent the united nations secretary general i'm telling the terrorist has called for calm in the d.l.c. tensions there a building after an already controversial election has calls countries around the world to question the result is there a diplomatic editor jane spays explains why. the security council finds itself in a most difficult position its members have long been keen to see the back of the kabila government but now it's been defeated they face intellectual dispute between rival opposition candidates they will for now rally around the message of the head of the un peacekeeping force in congo a call to avoid further conflict i deplore all such acts of violence and appeal to the congolese people and security forces alike to exist. and
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restraint in these critical period the security council tried to discover if the provisional election result was an accurate reflection of the will of the people the head of the electoral commission briefing the council from can chancellor admitted the election was not perfect and had been conducted in an atmosphere of mistrust but he's stood by the result he's announced. the african union and the regional body the south african development community which had observer teams on the ground both broadly back that assessment but then came the testimony of archbishop who temby his catholic church organization senko have fielded by far the largest number of observers nearly forty thousand no correspondent the results is published do not match the data collected by our own observation mission we have a recommendation to publish it quickly as possible all the records and minutes from
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the counting and polling stations to allow candidates to compare notes but the head of the electoral commission said he would only hand over that data to the constitutional court for now the security council is focusing on the stability of the democratic republic of the congo but as the electoral dispute continues maintaining calm and avoiding violence will become harder and harder james zero of the united nations syrian state media is reporting israel has fired several missiles towards the capital damascus unconfirmed reports suggest the strike struck near the city's airport most of them were shot down by air defenses syria says one of the strikes damaged a warehouse close to the airport u.s. secretary of state mike pompei is on his nine nation tour of the middle east he says the u.s. will continue to support its allies in the fight against eisel despite its military
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withdrawal from syria president trump has backed away from his threat to declare a national emergency to pay for his controversial border war he told reporters congress must do its job and voted to approve more than five billion dollars in funding for the war. i'd rather not do it because this is something that congress should easily to this is something that the democrats should do and i don't want to give an easy way out of something as simple as this not only simple it's easy and it's going to see europe you know we have a country that is under siege you could actually get a lot of people don't like the word invasion we have a country that's being invaded by criminals and by drugs and we're going to stop it so i want the democrats to come back to washington and vote with a possible government shutdown has triggered protests throughout the united states
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thousands of workers didn't get paid on friday many federal employees say they're having trouble paying their bills all right so today those are the latest headlines from us here at al-jazeera time now for ocean's monopoly stay with us. for millenia the oceans lay outside the dominion of man and. his state's influence extended only three nautical miles from the coast a little further than a cannonball could travel. but then humans discovered the ocean floor.
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and third largest land grab in weld history began. naming names. to mean i'm tom apply and i'm in the bedroom of rodeo should the no for line take twice i've sold it twice in small yards and
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also crossed in a bottle bug in. a woman i lived on rock or in this some people call a survival capsule i call it a wooden box it's a house like this is my house is a one man house i lived with a forty days it did the job it kept the window for me i was warm and dry but don't forget i'm right on the top of the cliff it's just straight down to the city. told mclean is one of the u.k.'s greatest adventure has he crossed the atlantic. five times the first time in a globe once in a vessel shaped like a beer bottle for his latest trip he sailed from newfoundland in the smallest sailboat ever to cross the atlantic. and. soon mclean will travel to new york in a boat built to resemble
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a whale. boat was more than an adventure however. it was a mission a mission done in service to mother england. somebody said about st kilda and they go in there but so the rock or rock was right there. and there seems to be a dispute who owns it and i thought why if i be a first civilian to reside on rock all that would help the case it wasn't quite so good the wind carried that. they closed in without it. is very dangerous there now you can see how it is quite dangerous. they were far from ok after that momentary triumph but then don't whack the big the
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way down i go down there was fifty four straight down into the helplessly into. the landing at one thousand nine hundred eighty five. told him to clean his knife. but he eventually made it to safety and flew in london and getting to the top was only the beginning however great britain willing to claim the law because an island it. happened international law stipulates that the time must remain there for twenty one days old. when the boat turned to go home and leave me for the first time. i was glad to see them go i was on my adventure i'm here with iraq and the birds i'm happy to be here the chiefs are making history. in mind those who may challenge it brittania ruled these waves.
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for the u.k. it was about more than just claiming a lump of granite in the ocean the real objective was to secure the resource rich area oh around local the islet was to play a key war when push territorial claims. the main players in british maritime claims work in an office on the south coast of india and. it's a fascinating area of work to do it it's there's not often somebody working in oceans signs that you do get the opportunity to mix both the legal on the technical aspects and see how they work together almost in order to develop something on behalf of the state. but we have the united kingdom to the east and as we come west past the rock all rock itself on to the plateau the land area of great britain and
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two hundred forty thousand square kilometers the area that the u.k. have submitted for the rock is a hundred sixty three thousand square kilometers. to. my main reason to go to rockall was to inhabit it and if i stayed in international law less than twenty one days i'm only visited i had to stay more than twenty one days and by staying there more than twenty one days it in fact forty days it wasn't iraq it's an oil and i made it or not and local. for the u.k. to claim the territorial sea overwhelmed along it had to prove that it was inhabitable yet the eyelids could be easily confused with any walk and tom stay was
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controversial so controversial that the u.k. had to put another territory into the mix st kilda the archipelago increased the british crowns claimed by one hundred sixty thousand square kilometers to st kilda has been deserted ever since its thirty six remaining inhabitants left almost a century ago but humans live there once and they could live there again at least theoretically. what does the u.k. want with all this water. by owning a piece of the ocean. the idea of the ocean has changed over time. mums from the promise to show how losing their cult togaf as mum saw the world and what they flew to an ocean is very much sure will.

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