those hashtags you mention at the top of the show rafael i'll give this one to you talk to us about how indicative this was in your view indicative or not indicative of what brazil society is like right now well my points of i do understand people who want to have to freedom to have a weapon what do we don't you have again and i also wonder stands that in the problems that brazil face nowadays this violent crime will arise people think that they can solve themselves the problem if they have again or i don't want to disk you discussed this specific case of will so narrow because then my point of view it's very difficult to judge because it would depend on how old our cure a career it would be the person who would be shooting against me so i don't think it's a corrupt rate to be in or that it could be much worse than it was about sniper attacks are very complicated but having said that i would be personally in favor of reducing gun laws in brazil if science had grooviest because science is always against the common sense that having morgans in that country you we would have less

crime but when you see scientists doing property and dissent research that goes against the common sense of people they show that they're more for them are against our having a society the more suicides are going to have in our society as well the more homicides are going to have in a society and i think they are like simply yes sorry to interrupt you but also in brazil almost seventy percent of all homicides were perpetrated by it so it's not yet that you were perpetrated by illegal guns not in the hands of law abiding citizens in the end yet but exactly half were legal once those that you know they had were thinking of others work equals ones. i mean i really believe that whatever satisfy it is a little and illegal ones so for example from all of the guns that police confiscated in twenty seventeen which were around one hundred thousand one hundred

twenty thousand and ninety four percent were not registered which does not mean they were illegal but just. register do you ok then you think you know better than i do twelve percent of all of those guns were actual were actually legal guns who were stolen or they were lost by people who had the right people because they were in simulink yes that's that's what i'm saying that there are a lot of illegal guns which is far the biggest part of the problem but that almost seventy percent of the homicides happen by gun illegal or or legal this just goes to show that it's not only the intent to kill but only also the intent and the means to kill with a gun that may be increased the homicide rate in the country. we have said let's not say it was once a bald truth is that big guns most of the guns that are used by criminals they were

legal ones that best the question is the games are very good that's what find filled up what is that this so the question the matter of the fact is that you have again and again is a very very group but they are not very good for the fairy said oh my friend he goes every day also on the streets of some polo and he has to go to horrible crime scenes where police officers were very well treated were not bad even if they were very well printed and they had to go and they were not able to defend themselves and those groups of the blue fell for foreseeable mainly because oh well go to the head of the criminals i think that's the point so that feel empowered just pause for a moment as i feel you mentioned a horrible crime scene one that powell has to go to power has a an impressive instagram account a lot of followers i want to show you this picture but i want you to wait there's blood on this page to save your very sensitive you may not want to see this picture there isn't a body but there was lots of blood we translated now you can have a look now that you're ready this is what paolo said and we translated it from

portuguese to another family destroyed by the socialist doctrine take guns away from law abiding citizen he will then be a victim of criminals from rebel and defensive defenses that's how socialism grows stronger we need to fight for the right to self-defense an armed citizen never bows not to the criminal not to the state politics here this is a political statement not just a reality check but a political statement so let's just give a little bit of context here but still has had a lot of socialist administrations now they have a more conservative one and people voted for the current president they wanted a more conservative approach in guns to. yes people won the right to defend themselves people want to be able to defend their houses against criminals they're entering it to rob it to kill it we have this we made this choice when we

elected bush so now that was one of his promises before the election and given that . dr huff i was perfectly right when he says that you have to train you have to have. a gun for self defense but most of all you have to have to right the right to defend its yourself your life the right to to be alive is a right in the constitution if you don't have the means to protect your life you don't have the right of you to your. yourself your heard like i think most of the people who i talk to during the campaign specially amongst balsa not his supporters and this was paramount not only to paulson our supporters but also people on the left is that brazilian people are truly afraid most of the people i talk to and most people i know in brazil have been victims of an assault

of a certain crime and some of them you know most robberies or a house robberies or carjackings involve a gun so people are afraid i would say that a lot of people who voted for course also not oh found the gun promise is some of the most entice him promises i would say that the the majority of brazilians. agree with further with loosening gun laws because the last time there was a public consultation is the last time there was a referendum let's say the majority of resilience were against loosening gun laws that noted that the right to render the night was orders. now the referendum was it was misinterpreted people defended the right to keep arms in the referendum and the state forced people to lose the right to have to have it and to to carry guns in the streets but i don't know how to me i want to jump in here with this because i want to i want to bring in the perspective of someone who is in support

of this law this is bruno who says this is why we're in support of the law we're tired of seeing criminals being treated better than the good people we just want to work to have our things until safe to be in our homes or to walk in peace in the streets or that's one anecdote there but on the other side are people who feel like they will be less safe with this law that is from a video comment we got probably a brazilian who's out of the country now his name is thomas to play to some data and this is a community he says we should be worried about have a listen i think that the implications of certain policies or on gun ownership of brazil would be terrible to people if you look at brazil we're already looking at a country that is twenty seven four hundred forty five dollars to do pilates and that represents a thirty percent decrease from twenty six so that means that one else particular person is killed every ninety hours. so if you combine that with having a probably a little bit president like say people so we can see tragic consequences in the

plea cases that we're different. so if you're really committed to ending those crimes is that we should be excluding a very clear and accessible as particular policies and regulations protections that you know just system so mia this is just one community who has cause for concern they say what are other communities talking to you about. why not women l g b t q indigenous communities and people in more or in more poor communities let's say for example in some of the fellah communities in brazil that. i think what's interesting is that bush or not you know promises to give guns to the good citizens bad nothing no one. promises what a good citizen is so he might be a father of of you know a father of three he might be a priest we don't know what he can do we did gun and in most cases in these cases

against you like to my said brazil is a huge of trends are in killings of these people in domestic violence i mean most of the perpetrators most of the aggressors are people who already know the victims are their loved ones their husbands boyfriends and what have what i think the question is people aren't safe but will guns be safer what if these people have guns instead of having their knives or using their hands i think that's what concerns most of the people in these communities and it's the hash tag what if you had a gun and the hashtag what if she had a gun it's valid as well because she can defend she or he can defend himself from the aggressor but i think it would mean that if some someone points a gun on you you say can you just hold a minute and let me reach for my gun and defend myself so i think like like like a fair also that it's much difficult much more difficult for the victim to the fan themselves with

a gun than for an aggressor to pick it up in the first time and start the aggression process let's say this. paula this is a class a this is a classic debate about having a gun and whether it creates more violence or whether it stops violence ahead yeah i think that people need to have deep choice if you don't have a choice you are your last if you give the choice to people have a gun before they were yours you know have training or ice they can kill me who don't want to have the trust of ever again that's the only probably i believe in battle when he saves the people this is forty thousand people voted to magritte a lot of it offended but the question is that's them opium of the population has changed the last couple of polls and in most of the newspaper herschel that sixty percent of the proceedings against the go go. so i see him very deserving with all of that and i think most people are the same for all let me let me just having a rabbit you have the guns but they only got ones illegals got in perspective in

that poll ok that poll says that eighty four percent of people agree that the criminal age for being charged with the crime in brazil should be reduced from eighteen to sixty so eighty four percent of the people said that they want more people in jail they want more criminals arrested that's what they want they want guns to feel safe they don't want guns in the hands of criminals they want to choice to defend themselves if you interpret that. the. age of the criminal age to be charged with a crime you realize that what people actually want is the right to defend themselves and their right to work and so do i think you know what is the law john about it it's all about interpretation we will leave that part of that they put aside we've had only different versions of that and when these are two perspectives here on twitter that i want to share with you pablo says i'm really happy happy

about it i don't want a gun but it's still safer with the population and with it neighborhoods will be even more safer. and we don't want to wait for the cops for protection we could manage it ourselves and guns in the hands of people are the best against any dictator so one perspective there on the other hand though is a point raised by a couple of people this is just one who says low income people support the release of weapons with the promise of defending their families but the high values for possessing a weapon will make it impossible for them to have it thus only people of high purchasing power will indeed have the conditions to have a weapon how low do you want to take those on. a gun is cheaper than a cell phone we have more cell phones in brazil than people so you can have plenty of other how much is the cell phone a cost in brazil thanks very expensive how many spend around three thousand four thousand here it will cost you a thousand dollars to get

a legal phone to get a legal gun but not all the legal five years list and the. last four you know work for your daily life and probably something very important and i'm a lot of people cannot afford to not have one but and weapon is considered a luxury luxury for a lot of people and also the problem of the illegal guns would continue even weed. having more access to guns with people having more access to guns the ones like you said the people who use guns for crime are the criminals and those people use illegal guns so having more guns to the legal citizens some people said that that won't improve safety for these people because those who are carrying the guns are likely renos so they have not just left to her also. sorry for interrupting you but the other point i think it's important debate is that if i had i know was a criminal that you know how was the reason then it makes me more likely to invade

the house because it came in for dollars and i can get the gun for myself at that point she's a good you know i don't i can't i can't i don't have to jump there well for example to raise their dollars but they can wait for the person who's been ordered up there out who has no good is a thing that i was in the case against the special didn't go inside the house the point is again i would be totally in favor of goods in society if science had proven me and science had proved that going to society would be helpful in terms of reducing crime rates reducing suicides i have no problem with that and you think you know jack just you people also are unable to drive they cannot even drive because they're unable to drive a car you know safe manner imagine those be more ready guns is just as something that is something that's outside of the realms of a country and what's popular and you have this situation is going to get worse and worse and worse in terms of wildness ok you know what asio is referring to is that

there are places in brazil where people have. vehicles because they're scared of being shot at by people with weapons i want to show you one version of how brazil might be in the future this is joyce house woman she's part of the post party she's a former conservative journalist and she posted a video they made january about how life might be now that women can illegally have guns in their home and they don't have to give a reason to have a gun in the have a look at has.

just to summarize you with boston are is to create a you can have up to four guns in your home you don't have to give a reason for why you are buying a gun you can just buy a gun and have it in your home you can open carry it you can have it out in the street but you can definitely have it in your house what difference could this possibly make. well the thing is you have to be twenty five years old of age to be able to buy it you have to do psychological tasks you have to do technical tasks you have to do practical test it's very complicated but you can and that's the really good choice it's not a matter of being resolving crime you see we don't want people to have guns so you can lower criminal statistics no we want people to have guns so they can defend themselves leave try to the police we can do are just supposed to have and i see

how it's possible as really interesting is that it's possible that more people will die have more homicide homicides because people in the homes are potentially turning the people who are invading the hunt so it's not about keeping the murder rate none it's about making people feel ok but the murder rate is not a perfect indicator of safety in a country where the murder rate is connected to criminal organizations to drug lords to drug war so it's not a perfect thing that picture that you showed earlier that picture is something that could be different if the person inside that house had the right to own a gun and had a gun at their house maybe they would have spared three people in the family so you are talking that it is a box reducing crime but then you are saying that it's not about it's not a five hundred thousand rank reducing crime is a job for the state is a job for the police people should only guns to defend themselves women should own

guns to defend themselves they l g b t community should own guns to defend themselves and every single human being should have the right to defend himself that's the biggest thing you know if you see that right if you say you do not have the right to defend yourself then. what are you going to do you're going to be a victim that's all you can do i want to bring them to comments on. what i bring into comments online that pick up on what was saying there the first live on you tube more weapons on the street brings more violence train and armed police with high caliber weapons and provide high tech surveillance to deal with gun crime that's one comment on you tube you can see it there in the next it's from someone on twitter who says what i predicted based on what happened in southern madagascar are better armed resilience even better armed brazilian criminals and astronomical rise and deaths caused by irresponsible gun owners but everyone will say it's worth

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for a better future are we saying yes the house do you want to sleep on it's. own al-jazeera. we've had victory after victory after victory the battle against eisel president total trump says the u.s. is just days away from declaring the armed group defeated. hello i'm adrian finnegan this is al jazeera live from doha also coming up life after eisel one iraqi city that's trying to move on after the old group was kicked out. the united nations is warning against using humanitarian aid as

a political weapon of venezuela's leadership crisis and in the shadow of a giant white indonesia's at a volcano still poses a threat to coastal communities. the u.s. president is predicting victory of i saw as early as next week donald trump praised coalition forces for retaking land occupied by the group in syria and iraq but the u.s. military is warning that thousands of i still find this remain in syria like hanna reports from washington. smiles all round as members of the coalition gather for a group photograph much has happened since they last met most importantly president trump surprise decision to withdraw u.s. troops from syria this led to the resignation of defense secretary james mattis along with the u.s. envoy to the global coalition who has not been replaced the u.s. secretary of state offered words of reassurance the drawdown of troops is

essentially a tactical change it is not a change in the mission it does not change the structure design or authorities on which the campaign has been based it simply represents a new stage in an old fight president trump argued at the time that i still had been defeated a position he continues to hold insisting a formal announcement to the subject will be made soon the united states military our coalition partners and the syrian democratic forces have liberated virtually all of the territory previously held by isis and syria and iraq it should be formally announced some time probably next week that we will have one hundred percent of the caliphate many members of the coalition warned that this may not mean an end to the fight and then he added well al i'm

a dreamer and i call on all countries of the world to help iraq fight sleeper cells all over the country and to help iraq restore instability and return the liberated area to what they used to be in order for terrorism not to exist delegates at this conference taking note of the view of u.s. intelligence chiefs at dogs with that of their president their opinion given to the senate intelligence committee last month i saw remains a formidable organization and is still capable of attacking the united states. mike hanna al jazeera washington sami nada is the director of the levant institute for strategic affairs and says the threat of ice was far from over. i think isis should be defeated not only by militarily means this is true it should there are. means to be put in place to stop countries or the source of financing for financing for such military or organization but

primarily i think this is a long term strategy that has to do with peace it has to start with proper education and profoundly forms in the society that that the emergence of and starting in starting full political participation namely of the sunni community in iraq and syria now who are the. political system in place in syria and iraq is it ensuring full participation of all the component. of that iraqi and syrian society and afford it but the stipulation of all the components in the power sharing system this is the question so the problem of the

disenfranchising. is resolved i don't think that one can say that threat of isis is over or one iraqi city which was under the control of eisel for a long time is mosul that was taken over by the armed group in twenty fourteen they were driven out three years later but the fight between iceland iraqi forces left large parts of the city in ruins massive force from back that. small shop surrounded by devastation. the wreckage of the iraqi military's battle to regain the city of mosul from government. as i said the other daughters of us have are i still kidnapped and then killed my husband when they stormed the city back in twenty fourteen and ever since i've been struggling to earn a living and feed my children i still see as mosul in twenty fourteen but after a hard fought battle the iraqi military won it back three years later this is all

that's left of what's known as the old city the united nations says it will take ten years to clear the rubble. it's a good sign the rubble is being removed it gives people like me a chance to go back to where their house was and start rebuilding their lives the international committee of the red cross says there are about one point eight million people in iraq who can't return home often that's because their homes simply don't exist they've been destroyed in the fighting between the iraqi military and i saw but the i.c.r.c. also says it's not enough just to build houses it says people need a wide variety of different types of help before they can start again it is important that they are protected from further harm and their basic needs in housing in health in education and work in finding jobs are met. there's also pressure on iraq's government to give more financial help.

in the old city of mosul there are more than sixteen thousand destroyed homes the government needs to do more to compensate people and support them to rebuild mosul . opened her shop using donations from charities she and her two sons have taken their first steps towards a normal life thousands more like he's still have nowhere to go but matheson al-jazeera back down in the us democrats say that they won't be intimidated by donald trump's warning against ridiculous passes and investigations they voted to provide special counsel robot with confidential testimony as related to his investigation into russian interference during the twenty sixth you know election protocol had reports by the close of wednesday special counsel robert muller had a lot more information for his investigation into potential collusion between russia and the trump campaign fifty transcripts of people who testified in front of a house committee some of those closest to the us president his son son in law and

his most trusted advisers with the democrats in charge now they voted to send all of the transcripts to muller and now if any of those people lied under oath they can be charged with a crime. president donald trump's close friend roger stone has already been charged with lying to congress and his former lawyer is going to prison for doing that this comes on the heels of a warning from the president during his state of the union speech tuesday an economic miracle is taking place in the united states and the only thing that can stop it. our foolish wars politics or we dicky alice partisan investigations. if there is going to be peace and legislation there cannot be war and investigation it just doesn't work that way. the democratic

response it actually does that's a nonstarter in fact the committee says they will look into more than what mohler is kept in a broad net looking into the possibility that the president or those close to him are compromised the american people have a right to know indeed have a need to know that their president is acting on their behalf and not for some peculiarity or other reason that pertains to and the credible allegations of leverage by the russians or the saudis or anyone else the u.s. president was not happy i know what basis would he do that he has no basis to do that he actually does he's in charge now and he has the power to make people show up before his committee thank you very much thank the president and his closest advisors are about to find out what that looks like to call him al-jazeera washington there's growing pressure on president trying to give a tougher response to the murder of the saudi journalist. leading democrats are

planning to bring forward new legislation that's designed to impose stronger action against u.s. ally saudi arabia four months ago twenty two senators from both parties invoked the magnitsky act of twenty sixteen which gave donald trump one hundred twenty days to make a decision on new sanctions related to the shelties mudda and saudi arabia's consulate in istanbul you have no decision has been made. the un is warning against using humanity using humanitarian aid as a political tool in venezuela the u.s. says the trucks carrying supplies have arrived in neighboring colombia they were sent there after a request by venezuela's self declared interim president but the opposition says the military has blocked a bridge along the border where the aid is meant to pass a list of m.p.'s he reports now from the colombia venezuela border. the promised a doesn't even reach the venezuelan border but the government of nicolas maduro is

already taking steps to stop it entering the country fences huge shipping containers and armed soldiers are blocking crossings into venice where. the united states and neighboring colombia are leading an effort to move tens of millions of dollars worth of aid into linux well it includes desperately needed medicines and food. president long denied this country faces any such crisis in regard to the aid offer as the first step towards an invasion of the country in the eyes of venus well as opposition it's no more do an act of compassion. humanitarian aid is humanitarian aid is to take care of the emergency it doesn't resolve the problem of food it's important to say that it's to attend to the most vulnerable that today are about to lose their lives. on wednesday the u.s. secretary of state in colombia's foreign ministers call them president maduro to change his mind. where we have been as well and people are calling for this

humanitarian aid to arrive and what it needs to do is not impede our being as well and brothers from getting the humanitarian aid they need this is the entrance to the bridge the main entry point for the aid arriving from the capital but we're still days away from being ready to operate as a humanitarian corridor the building there you see behind me is being adapted to properly store food and medicine that will arrive the first trucks are still on their way from of all the time they are expected here at some point on thursday and local authorities are telling us that even once all this will be ready they feel don't have a clear plan and how to move this into venezuela. on the venezuela side of the border hungry families were anxiously waiting for news of the shipments. and even

hearing. fled their home country or hoping to receive some help. here we were told we could receive some food and help here but know their thing it needs to go into venezuela amadou it will not let us in let's hope he will put a hand on his heart something that at least for now seems out of the question alison.