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salta allies but they ended up in enemy hands some of america's gulf allies are accused of transferring us for weapons to rebel groups in yemen who control the city pressure donald trump to stop supporting the saudi a morality led coalition at war in yemen this is inside story. hello and welcome to the show i'm sam is a than now amnesty international says the united arab emirates has secretly armed rebel groups in the amman with advanced weapons bought from the u.s. as well as european manufacturers the rebel groups include the giants the security

belt and elite forces which are trained in funded by the u.a.e. amnesty says a wide range of u.s. supplied armored vehicles vended up with rebel fighters have also received more to rockets and guns board by the m r r t s amnesty says the rebels are accountable to no one and some have committed war crimes we have not authorized saudi arabia or the emirates to transfer any of this equipment to other parties on the ground in yemen and as you are well aware when we do provide equipment whether comes government to government or commercially provided. that the recipients do have to agree to certain stipulations on the use of those and that we do have monitoring and enforcement mechanisms. the u.a.e.

and saudi arabia are yet to respond to the allegations let's bring our guests into the show we have joining us from santa nasser arabi a political commentator in london patrick will can a researcher on the arms trade security and human rights for amnesty international and in the us by skype lawrence korb a former assistant secretary of defense and senior fellow at the center for american progress welcome to you all if i could start with patrick it's a fairly detailed report some would say quite shocking how did you reach these sorts of conclusions. we examined open source material visual material looking at the arsenals of particular militia groups including the security belt and the elite forces and the giants that have been recently engaged in the a date of offensive and we matched the types of weapons that we were seeing with transfer data that is

a published day show that states. register on their arms transfers and we source and patents while much of the weapons that are currently being used by militia groups in yemen are legacy weapons the old weapons that had been in the country for you know prior to the conflict we're now seeing some disturbing patton's of what we would say is deliberate diversion of weapons particularly vehicles and we see a wide variety of us not just u.s. south african army vehicles but also small arms from various european states including. garia belgian serbia we have seen mortars serbian mortars and singaporean truck how do we know if i could well patrick how do we know who transferred those weapons to these militia groups on the ground. i think

that's an open question and the question that the immoralities and in some instances the saudi arabian authorities have have to answer them are archies have been on record saying that they are supporting these militias it's well known on the ground that they're supporting these militias and has said that for instance the giants form part of coalition forces and are under their command in a sense and i think this is worrying particularly from the you know not not states perspective and any other supply states because you know usually western states are quite rigorous in their the stipulations they put on any arms transfer that have and use a certificate switch specify that arms cannot be passed on to third parties and so this looks like to us that the m.r.i. she's acquitting and training these forces and and handing out equipment against

the very strict stipulations that the u.s. for instance would put on any arms transfer we're talking about the u.s. that is take the perspective of washington d.c. lawrence is it possible that an organization like amnesty international simply by viewing videos an open source material can come to this conclusion and yet u.s. intelligence other western intelligence are unaware that their weapons are ending up in the hands of groups they haven't authorized. knowledge is no use yes i guess to make it public would undermine a lot of the arms sales that the administration is pushing and why they looking the other way lawrence. because the president wants to continue to sell arms to of those contraries he claims that this is good for our economy he claims that this basically is a way to shreds in our alliance there and it's not just amnesty international see

it and the american cable network the leading cable network house much more damaging story not only about the usa to the the saudis giving stuff that's ending up in the hands of iran which trump claims is our biggest threat to the area well then the claim that lawrence i mean how does that go down in washington perhaps credibly that this is in the u.s. interest if as is being claimed some of these weapons even end up in the hands of groups affiliated to al qaida which is anything but progress than obviously all pro u.s. . now it does it undermines american not security and i think what you already see it is the senate had passed a resolution saying we should stop providing aid to the saudis in u.s. aid not just because of this but because of the horrible human catastrophe that's

going are going on there and i think this will give impetus our to even more stricter legislation in the house of representatives to stop the arms sales completely interesting let's bring in the perspective of the you are of course in sanaa which is controlled by the host the movement some of these groups which have received weapons western weapons like security belt elite forces the giants give us an idea of what a difference that makes on the ground the fact that they have these types of western weapons. well there is no difference after all this is something that is not new. at all most of the yemenis here know that i find it alongside the u.s. allies with the saudi. forces this is something very clear and also there

will be ins and the money that. gets to the to the hands of isis here they get to their hunt openly as equipment for fighters as salaries for fighters this is something that is very no for example let me give you an example most or the majority of the forces of the saudi emeritus forces in the western cause of. the su call that. is the giant brigades this is these people of these forces call themselves selfish everybody knows that they are in a way or another link directly to al-qaeda and isis also there is also a battle or a brigade in terrorist called the. basset brigade this is also receive money and weapons i mean the us weapons and saudi in america the weapon

openly as salary and equipment so this is something not a new not new at all also there is something more that some of the leaders of these people of qaeda. are based in riyadh and in up about and this is something you know. some of them also. this english by the you is worthy of mention the u.s. let me bring lawrence in so the sort of picture which is being painted for us by nasr in sana'a is that you have groups linked to al qaida whose leaders he says even based. in the capitals or cities of u.s. allies which are receiving. weapons money support from u.s. allies which means if you follow that logic the u.s. is funding some of its worst enemies high the family aid groups there's no doubt

about it the same thing as with in syria a lot of the weapons that we initially put in there to bite assad ended up in the hands of groups affiliated. with al qaida and what happens here is both the saudis and the usa are so fixated on dealing with the who these that they're willing to make a short term concession to groups like al qaida and as pointed just pointed out by our colleague here in the sauna the fact as a matter is that the saudis have had the peacetime groups a narrow country for a long time i mean the attacks of nine eleven came from dr marilee people from saudi arabia and that doesn't raise eyebrows in washington d.c. lawrence well it does raise eyebrows but not with this is ministration who so fixated on dealing with the ran and increasing the arms sales where the president

trying to make sparse overseas trip was to saudi arabia and look out he sanral because shelby incidentally has not held saudi arabia accountable spring and patrick back to the discussion tell us the practical human rights issues that come with allowing western weapons to end up in the hands of some of these militias what does that mean in terms of conduct of war that. well i think i'll just preface any come in specific to those militias by saying that all parties to the conflict with the be the saudi forces or the butties or allied militias have from the outset committed a whole range of very serious human rights violations including you know the indiscriminate bombardment of civilian areas but specific to

these groups and the city has done some very detailed research on the ground in southern yemen talking to detainees and their relatives from a string of so-called black sites secret detention centers where they were held and guarded by some of these militia groups and the allegations that came from those interviews were quite shocking they were subject to torture sexual humiliation. they were deprived of food and water there was in forced disappearance a real gray zone where the families were looking for relatives but unaware of where they were being held and they were that they were. you know killings of criminal suspects so i think you know this is where the the nub of the issue for us is you know western states including the u.s.

have to be aware of the risks of complicity that they run if they are prepared to countries such as saudi arabia and their merits we have been calling on a complete cessation of arms supplies to the coalition from the outset of the conflict just on the grounds of their own conduct but this adds another dimension and as. as your guest in the states has said you know this is not this is a reality that has happened in many different countries in the region he mentioned syria but iraq is another classic case where west went in and then were diverted or stolen from iraqi stocks we had the growth of islamic states and also the problem mobilization units which were also accused of very serious human rights

violations including the killings of thousands of young sunni boys and men so it's an indefinite problem particularly in the middle east and states prepared to continue to supply have to be aware that. there is this risk and there are there are also going against some very strong domestic regulations but also why compilation on those regulations in a second u.n. trip but you touched on a point which i want to take back because the amnesty report does talk about how what it documents quite thoroughly how it sees the flow of weapons coming from the u.a.e. to some of these groups on the ground there in sana'a nasr how much control does the u.a.e. have over these militias. father control it's you

know it's control of it's a sort of control for for receiving the the weapons and receiving the money and then they say we are fighting fruity this is the only thing but they are not under the control of of the united arab emirates and neither. neither in the in the system cost nor in the in the south also so they are all the common things between them all live only to find it to three not two more but. they have their own agenda and they have their own i the years everyone knows and there may be the names they they they have some different names now now they they are calling themselves. the giant brigades or. brigades as i told you this is just names but they are they have their own agenda

they have their own their own goals so. there's a lot on account of them better to go give an account to anyone yes of course they are they if they are uncovered i mean they are not under their control and they are or if they are not bring in. that is giving quite short lawrence could there be legal implications for this i mean there are rules in the u.s. in the e.u. about transfer of weapons particularly to groups which are accused of committing war crimes right. well there's no doubt about that the legal implications and obviously i think what these this the amnesty report on c.n.n. is going to get the congress to say we can't sell them any arms any or regardless what they what they they claim and we won't provide them any assistance you know

particularly for the bombings that they've hired a refueling or providing them these persisting guided weapons anymore obviously nobody could bring this case to the to the international criminal court but not obviously is a whole different issue in the united states doesn't belong to the international criminal court ok let's take that point back to patrick and in london then. your report seems to link for example you've looked at certain configurations of weapons and you said that could only have come from this source because this is the only souls that support that configuration of the personnel carriers and i don't know gun targets right is that sort of evidence do you think going to make some kind of solid legal case. well i think this is a very interesting and and fast moving area looking at the legal

liabilities both of states and companies announce transfers because as he said there are very strict rules. there is this the e.u. common position which links prohibits transfers if there's a high risk of them being used for human rights violations there's the arms trade treaty which was adopted in the end of twenty fourteen. the us is a signatory states have ratified and it's interesting only the united arab emirates is also a signatory one of the few in the region which is legally binding internationally and likewise connex prohibits the transfer of arms where there's a small i'd say that's the e.u. and i'm steve documented stuff what do you do with your evidence that you've gathered so far. well we have being campaigning for many years to try and stop on supplies to the coalition and we will be continuing to to do

so taking reports and evidence to the capital of in the various countries mentioned and throughout chapters we have offices around the world. lobbying in the in the states and in other countries we also have a strong presence at the arms trade treaty conference of states parties which discuss these issues and we were going to continue to press states for them to live up to their obligations we are also in the u.k. involved in a legal case against the u.k. government. against their decision to send arms to saudi arabia which has been bought by a campaign group in the year in the in the u.k. the campaign against the arms trade and when we are supporting that case which is going to appeal shortly so there are many different routes of campaigning and

and legal actions that we are pursuing there is a big question mark right now over the flow of arms at least from the west to some of the allies of the us saudi arabia and the u.a.e. for use in yemen nasr in sana'a what does the continued for weapons and we should point out as well there are allegations of flows of weapons from iran as well not just from the west via saudi arabia in the u.a.e. what does that continuation of flow of weapons mean for prospects of this the cease fire all at least the truce which was agreed to for data. well of course. the more the weapon the more the war is this is something very it goes without saying. you know

if they. are sending these weapons wanted this war to to end they must to stop it of course because without these weapons there is no war but. unfortunately the problem now is that these these advanced weapons end up in the enemy of us and you can friends and all the west this guy that i says this is something that is. isis have have never been dreaming of such things to happen at all now they are receiving these things easily with the man with the saudi and the money and with a big cover but ethical cover and media coverage of that they are there i mean they are not hiding at all now as they were in the past i thought so they are not it's a golden time for a guy that isis and all kinds of these militants or we've just got about

a minute and a half less on a give it to lawrence before we wrap up you spoke about action by congress how likely do you think it is that we will actually see an arms embargo imposed by congress on arming saudi arabia and the u.a.e. for example. i think in light of the honestly report and the c.n.n. . report which got a lot of coverage in the united states today congress will pass it whether the president will veto it and whether congress has the troops verged over turned out i think is a is a is a different different a different issue but there's no doubt about the fact that there's growing support in this country to start providing arms to the saudis and the u.a.e. even before these reports came out because of the horrible humanitarian catastrophe that's happening out in yemen and when people can then bring up the fact that you're arming groups associated with al qaida or that is to acknowledge he gets

back to iran i think that might be the game changer to have game changes that would be lawrence though quite a game changer if the u.s. cuts off weapons rightness sort of military impact that would have on the conflict would be immense would it not early word and don't forget that the united states now secretary not warry last said you've got to get this you know private you don't know how the peace negotiations open and sweden so hopefully this will work some of that process all right let's thank our guests very much for their thoughts on this one patrick well can knock out a b. and lawrence korb and thank you to fortune you can see the show again of course any time by visiting our website al-jazeera dot com for this question have it over to our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story can also join the conversation on twitter handle is at a.j.

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