a week after agnes kalamata and her team of legal and forensic experts visited istanbul and the saudi consulate where jamal khashoggi was murdered the un special rapporteur has released her initial findings and they are damning in a written statement she says evidence collected during my mission to turkey shows prime a facie case that mr cruise shoji was the victim of a brutal and premeditated killing planned and perpetrated by officials of the state of saudi arabia during the visit to turkey ms callum odds team met with key turkish officials and was played an audiotape which is believed to be a recording of mr kershaw g.'s last minutes alive and of his murder she says it was gruesome and chilling agnus kalamata undertook this inquiry on her own initiative under her existing mandate to examine cases of extrajudicial executions her work continues and she report her findings to the un human rights council in about four

months time the un secretary general has refused to set up his own inquiry into the murder of mr cruz shoji unless he gets a referral from the human rights council the security council or the un general assembly the initial findings of this investigation likely to increase pressure here at the un for tougher action against saudi arabia but the authorities in riyadh allow it to be more worried about what happens next in washington. outside the white house the campaign group the committee to protect journalists held an event to mark the fact that february eighth is the deadline for president trump to take action against saudi arabia shoji case under what's known as the magnitsky act even if mr trump decides not to act there are many in congress who made it quite clear they will not let this case drop james pays out jazeera at the united nations . the u.s.

state department says it will continue to consult with congress to hold those responsible for jamal khashoggi to account for the department of state shares the deep concern and outrage. over the killings of jamal khashoggi expressed by members of congress and we have consulted and corresponded with the congress regularly since jamal khashoggi is october second killing including briefings by the secretary of state. weather is next but still ahead on al-jazeera the british prime minister is back from brussels where once again she's been looking for a compromise on the withdrawal of deal. and promises to build a new central african republic after a historic casteel assigned in bungay. hello

again to welcome back here in a national weather forecast well just a few days ago here in eastern china we were looking at temperatures anywhere between twenty five to about thirty degrees in some locations all that has now changed winds are now coming out of the north for many of those locations and we are back to normal for cities such as for joe we're going to be seeing rain in your forecast but you temptress back down to about fifteen to fourteen degrees there down towards hong kong about twenty four shanghai though you could be seeing a mix of rain and snow here on friday but this is could be mostly cloudy conditions by the time we get toward saturday taipei a cloudy day if you as well with twenty one degrees well here across the philippines really not looking too bad at all we are see most of the clouds down here to the south so luzon it is going to be a partly cloudy day for you over towards vietnam over towards thailand we are looking at some nice conditions as well for indonesia though the rain is going to

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welcome back. a reminder of our top stories this hour u.s. trucks carrying food and supplies have arrived at the colombia venezuela border but it's not kit clear yet how the aid will get into the country without the support of the military which still backs president nicolas maduro. the un human rights envoy investigating the matter of janis jamal khashoggi says it was a brutal premeditated killing planned and perpetrated by saudi officials the findings by a special rapporteur agnes follow a week long mission to tacky to examine evidence. white house aides will travel to

the middle east later this month he'll be visiting to present part of his peace plan for the region president trump son in law will visit among rain saudi arabia the u.a.e. and qatar. the un's human rights office says the force feeding of asylum seekers at a texas detention center could amount to torture nine men on a hunger strike have been force fed through a nasal tube that the center run by u.s. immigration and customs enforcement the u.n. says it could be classed as ill treatment under the convention against torture britain and the e.u. have agreed to hold more talks to try and avoid the u.k. leaving the block with no deal but to european commission chief. says the withdrawal agreement u.k. prime minister to resign may struck in november cannot be renegotiated the leaders held robust talks in brussels on thursday and barca has the story. it wasn't

a great start for the british prime minister and mt breaks it demonstrated police jumped in front of a car with fifty days left before britain officially leaves the e.u. a feeling desperate. british m.p.'s have demanded she find alternative arrangements over the border between northern ireland and the republic of ireland something she's promised to do we must secure we couldn't find any changes to the withdrawal would be to deal with the concerns the parliament over the current storm and taking down changes to the back story together with the other work that we're doing on workers likes and other issues will deliver a stable doors in the middle not schools and i will continue to push for now it's not going to be easy i'm clear that i am going to little practice it but it's delivering on time that's what i'm going to do that is public. knowledge in the coming days to do just that but there's a problem for to reason may be used refuse to reopen the withdrawal agreement and renegotiate any new irish border arrangements the open borders protected by

a twenty year old peace deal the good friday agreement to put an end to decades of sectarian fighting in northern ireland nobody wants to turn back the clock but the border question has made leaving the e.u. extremely complicated. brussels is determined to hold on to an insurance policy within the withdrawal agreement the so-called backstop designed to keep the irish border open if no arrangement is in place by the end of next year the u.k. automatically continues to be under e.u. trade policy there's also no way of unilaterally leaving the backstop nor any time limit on it and that's too much for some bricks a ts to stomach the e.u. is however prepared to offer more binding political commitments to avoid ever having to use the backstop we are open as parliament from day one to grade his political decoration to make this political decoration more binding more precise

also on the issue of the backstop explaining and saying very clearly that this is insurance and more than that but persuading british politicians to back to reason that plans may require more than a promise is this is the first last ditch attempts to finalize a deal british and negotiators will meet on monday and to resume a will return to brussels at the end of the month but finding a plan to please her polity the british parliament and e.u. remains painfully out of reach. brussels. six refugee families stranded on a british military base in cyprus for more than twenty is have won a legal battle to settle in the u.k. for his the british government denied being responsible for them the refugee convention was never extended to british bases david tacey has this story. it was more than twenty years ago when

a smuggler's fishing boat founded in these waters with more than seventy refugees on board the waves were driving them towards cliffs below a british military base in cyprus helicopters were scrambled to lift them out. kovan was just three years old at the time he's lived here at number ten condon ave you ever since in the sovereign territory of the united kingdom an iraqi kurd his british passport is about to arrive at last. actually it gets to some point where you you don't have hope anymore like you you just get used to waiting in this just that without any answer or. outcome. the only glimpse you can get of his future home is on a computer with patchy internet to stay the news was all about the weather i think i'm good with the cold weather and i would just waver so i get home with calls with

tony blair was the prime minister when he first came ashore saying things could only get better the iraqi president saddam hussein was still persecuting his fellow kurds to reason may is now u.k. leader but as home secretary she fought to keep them out. a whole new generation has now grown up here in hots which wants house british soldiers that are riddled with asbestos. raji hussein yarra i mean i'm fourteen month old jaylen live in number eighteen clarendon haven't you there are syrian kurds they too have been given clearance to enter the united kingdom and the beauty with her daughter translating what she had told me life for a refugee is always like this we have to learn how to be patient so we can cope with the situation she said. i want to became

a english teacher of french teacher i also like to be a journalist and also like today because you know there is a shanty further if huge is. what all these families are here in richmond village is the hope and the belief that they will reach the united kingdom but they don't believe that dream will be realised until they actually have a passport in the. last three years a much beloved companion of the children here they'd be heartbroken to leave her united nations officials have promised though she will get a pet passport but like everyone here she still waiting to be chaytor al-jazeera. rescue teams in turkey have pulled more than a dozen survivors from the rubble of a building that collapsed in istanbul the apartment block came down on wednesday evening and at least eleven people are confirmed dead it's believed others are still trapped. france says its military cooperation with cameroon will continue

despite the united states withdrawing some of its assistance u.s. officials announced the suspension on wednesday accusing security forces in the west african nation of committing human rights violations it comes after a video circulated online appearing to show security forces shooting civilians cameron has cooperated closely with the u.s. in the fight against. a peace deal has been signed in central african republic aimed at ending war is a civil war the deal was reached by the government and fourteen armed groups after talks. but after the failure of past peace deals there's little hope this latest agreement will last reports. this muted a pool is perhaps a sign that repeated attempts at forging peace in central african republic have been far from easy says. this historic date brings us face to face with our responsibilities together in celebrating our diversity and respecting our

differences i call on you to work together to build a new central african republic central african republic rapidly descended into civil war in two thousand and twelve after the mainly muslim seleka group rebelled in the north they overthrew the christian president francois bose easy a predominately christian militia calling itself the. rosa defense thousands of civilians have been killed since the former colonial power france sent troops under a u.n. mandate his fears grew of a possible genocide. a quarter of the country's born a half million people have been forced to flee their homes. the silica were forced from power in two thousand and sixteen a former prime minister four star to our data was elected president but the celica still control around eighty percent of the country.

fighting off in iraq over mineral resources including gold diamonds and you bring you the latest peace deal was agreed after talks in sudan set up that. we've brought peace back from sudan harmony national unity a muscle reconciliation. they have been seven peace agreements over the years to end one of africa's bloodiest conflicts in one of the poorest countries in the world all of failed. but. sudanese protesters are calling for the release of activists detained during weeks of demonstrations against president omar al bashir. the rally was called to express solidarity with the hundreds of people who've been arrested since protests started in december human rights activists say at least forty five have been killed president bashir has acknowledged that growing economic hardship in sudan has angered young people and sent them on to the streets. the

berlin international film festival is underway dozens of films will be screened during the battle and several of them vying for the top prize the golden bear and the many are directed by women the reports. of burley in embrace is the film festivals as our leaders saying to the man who's stepping down after eighteen years in charge of the stars were out for the opening movie the kindness of strangers it's danish director louis freeh gives one of several women who have a film in competition hoping to win the famous golden bear and the actress heading the jury says that can only be. good thing yes nima shows that and that is cinema is changing and women are breaking through i hope there'll be more women from the whole world coming through from south america and africa and countries like china because we need the point of view of women from around the world. something else the berlin ali is synonymous with is political films like the brazilian fact based

nine hundred sixty s. drama getting its world premiere here but it's not that well as he says goodbye to the berlin ali the man in the black cut de to kosilek nose he leaves behind an event that sent a unique place in the film world it's just a lot of fun and at the same time you can sing about we just hear you sing and it's a little bit like your body night because it's in a way a comedy and people will laugh but to see you see operated top six and that's again it's like happy because it's a kindness of strangers and this is what. we can double says. he's. not really. this foundation in montana another contender for the golden bear is the golden glove by fatty he won billions top prize back in two thousand and four and this

german drama plunges you into another time and place is based around a real life nine hundred seventy serial killer in the red light district of akin's native homburg. also in the running this drama set in mongolia. and revolves around a herds woman who gets pregnant after spending one night with a young police officer. who could. hear me definitely each year you know it was a six in clearly there's no shortage of variety here or a stardust thank. you. al jazeera at the berlin film festival. i mean. these are the top stories the u.n. human rights envoy investigating the murder of journalist jamal khashoggi says it was a brutal premeditated killing planned and perpetrated by saudi officials the findings

by a special rapporteur agnus follow a week long mission to tacky to examine evidence our diplomatic editor james bays has more from the un although it's an initial statement it's a pretty damning statement it's a continued embarrassment i think to saudi arabia which had hoped to put this behind them this is still out there and of course this is only a short statement and there is likely to be more to come because the investigation continues u.s. trucks carrying food and supplies of arrived at the colombia venezuela border but it's not clear yet how the aid will get into the country without the support of the military which still backs president nicolas maduro the stalemate continues over breaks that leaders say the u.k. withdrawal agreement struck in november cannot be renegotiated although both sides have agreed to hold more talks to try to avoid the u.k. leaving without a deal. white house aide jared kushner will travel to the middle east later this

month he'll be visiting to present part of his peace plan for the region president tom son in law will visit oman buffer in saudi arabia the u.a.e. and qatar. the un's human rights office says the force feeding of asylum seekers at a texas detention center could amount to torture nine men on a hunger strike have been force fed through nasal tubes at the center run by u.s. immigration and customs enforcement. sudanese protesters are calling for the release of activists detained during weeks of demonstrations against president omar al bashir the rally was called to express solidarity with the hundreds of people who've been arrested since protests started in december human rights activists say at least fifty five have been killed. rescue teams and taki have pulled more than a dozen survivors from the rubble of a building that collapsed in istanbul the apartment block came down on wednesday evening and at least eleven people are confirmed dead it's believed others are

still trapped. those are the headlines join me here for more news after inside story do stay with us. coming together against one man rule egypt's opposition leaders rejects a move in parliament to extend presidential terms nearly six years after the military coup that put into power will abdel fattah el-sisi ever leave office this is inside story.

hello and welcome to the program i'm peter dobie there is a law in egypt today over proposed changes to the constitution they could allow the president abdel fattah el-sisi to stay in office until twenty thirty four and others well after the official end of his second term in twenty twenty two opposition leaders are rallying against the changes to stop what some are calling an arab spring in reverse. sets up our discussion. its supporters say it's a crucial step to ensure stability opponents that. their country is moving to a talk or see egypt seems divided over a package of amendments introduced and approved by a pro-government block in parliament the changes extend presidential term limits to

six years instead of four specifically mentioning the current leader of the fatah has sisi but they have to be approved by parliament and put to a referendum if the amendments get a yes vote it could pave the way for president sisi to stay in power until twenty thirty four. almost in one thousand nine hundred ninety six and president mohamed and what i'll say that amended the one nine hundred seventy one constitution to the war we're going through a war that is more intense the warning sign i on the wars we are facing by other countries that i would like not to name. but the opposition is trying to rally support to block the changes president sisi who came to power in a military coup is serving his second and last a spur of the two thousand and fourteen constitution which clearly states that he cannot run for office after his term and in two thousand and twenty two.

o'clock in the transfer of power is a moral principle which was created by the revolutions of the twenty fifth of january and the thirtieth of june it's not allowed to tamper with this moral principle or else will be in a position that will cause people to remain with no morals or preservation of the principles. sissy's supporters have also introduced new changes creating the post of vice president reintroducing a second chamber of parliament and giving minorities a bigger say the changes are likely to be approved by the path. element where c.z. supporters have an absolute majority but it's the referendum that will be a test of the president's popularity human rights groups though are concerned about whether they say is a widespread crackdown on dissent and arbitrary mass trials or presidencies these opponents. for insights laurie. we're a lot to get through with our guest in just

a moment but first the outcry on social media many egyptians are criticizing the proposed changes to the constitution among them mohamed el baradei the former interim vice president who was awarded the nobel peace prize back in two thousand and five now he's on twitter today and i quote projects to amend hash tag egypt constitution unfolding and in full throttle main features extending presidential term limit diminishing judicial independence and annoying ting military as the guardian of the state arab spring in reverse. ok let's bring in our guests joining us from cairo on skype today is timothy cal darcy nonresident fellow at the institute for middle east policy here in doha is mohammed el masri associate professor and chair of the journalism program of the doha institute for graduate studies and in brussels james moran associate senior research fellow at the center for european policy studies and

a former ambassador to egypt jordan and yemen thank you to you all for joining us here on inside story. in cairo first these proposed changes what do they mean well they're an effort to build expand and consolidate and as you. which is a project that's been underway since he came onto the scene and became president twenty four we've seen that it legislative efforts to expand its control over judicial appointments now they're trying to embody those efforts in the constitution. were seeing the addition of another upper house of parliament of which a third of the members will be appointed by the president again increasing his power over that body you also have more control over the choosing of the selection of the public prosecutor so there's a variety of mechanisms you're to extend his control of their estate institutions while simultaneously extending his role potentially until twenty thirty four mohamed el masry here in doha the opposition how much real politic they have i think we have to be really careful when we talk about egyptian opposition i don't

personally like that term all serious opposition to military rule in egypt was effectively eliminated during a campaign of elimination isn't in two thousand and thirteen and two thousand and fourteen we saw the elimination of political parties mass killings mass arrests of political leaders mass death sentences draconian legislation and terrorism does ignition so there is no serious substantive political opposition in egypt we have watered down opposition if you will. they are very weak that is by design they will it's very unlikely that their movement inside of parliament will generate any steam report suggests that there's already a super majority in support of these proposed amendments and ultimately this will go to a referendum which will be controlled by the state as all other elections and referenda

have been during the c.c. period or the c.c. era and we'll see the yes vote win out in a landslide election which will be decried as a sham by analysts and scholars in human rights groups james moran to listen to mohamed el masry there it looks like we're on the road to more l.c.c. as far as the european union is concerned is that a good thing or a bad thing. well let me just say when this constitution of two thousand and fourteen was promulgated i was the ambassador there in cairo i remember well it was welcomed in the international community pretty widely as being just about the most positive thing to come out of all the turmoil between two thousand and eleven and two thousand and fourteen and there were high hopes for this constitution why because for the first time i think in modern times it looked on paper that it was

going to provide proper checks and balances against. authoritarian presidential rule it also took to a much greater extent than previous constitutions of individual rights and freedoms it wasn't perfect but it was pretty good outcome now with the changes coming i would be a little bit worried about the medium term because egypt has been down this path before of presidential rule in the era notably of hosni mubarak and look what happened if it's about stability you have to ask the question is this really in the best interest of the country to make these sorts of changes because they will certainly erode in a pretty fundamental way all those checks and balances that the two thousand and fourteen constitution was trying to introduce timothy held us from where you are in cairo we're talking here about a grouping of what ten or eleven political parties what are the chances they get support across the country i don't think the focus should be on the political

parties. mamma is correct in the sense that the in the opposition within parliament itself is quite limited and they don't have the votes really to do much in terms of stopping the referendum of stopping the members to move to referendum there are a number of civil society human rights groups that have called on egyptians to go no and what is somewhat unique about this i don't disagree that ultimately the government almost certainly get the result it wants regardless of public opinion but it is an interesting moment a sense that. unlike past elections where the president could imprison or drive out of the race. through intimidation any of the candidates the word no is not something he can lock up and so egyptians actually will get to vote against presidency she's continuation for the first time with actively. and whether or not that vote gets recorded and publicized if people actually go out and do it people within the regime will know that that happened and that could affect his position

internally but i think it's almost inevitable that the that the the of the amendments will will eventually come into force unfortunately mohamed el masry what's your reaction to the logic here that says well we've got to push through with these changes because what he wants to do with the economy what he wants to do to turn the country around he's hampered by the constitution as it stands today this is none of this is surprising right this is this is a continuation of what we've seen post two thousand and thirteen i was on al-jazeera and writing on al-jazeera in two thousand and fourteen about this inevitability that this was going to come there were whispers back in two thousand and fourteen that ccs that sisi would need to have a prolonged extended stay in power this is what egypt's deep state wants they want they want to strongman they believe that this will help preserve their interests allies in the region like this because they believe that it brings

creates an sustains stability which is what which is what they want. so all of this you know all of these justifications as far as i'm concerned as somebody who supports democracy are absurd what's what egypt needs is a legitimate democratic transformation it needs sharing of power it needs balance of power checks and balances the kinds of things that the other guests have been that have been talking about i also want to note that in. my estimation and again a lot of people wrote about this back in two thousand and fourteen but the two thousand and fourteen constitution was was not really a way forward the two thousand and twelve constitution was also flawed but the two thousand and fourteen constitution represented actually a step backwards a step closer toward authoritarianism james moran in brussels that is the opposition here was that betting essentially floored with a betting that after the last election ninety seven percent in his favor on

a very low turnout just over forty percent that was the opposition then betting that once he'd won well they would say once he cooked the books if you will he would then soften his stance but he hasn't softened his stance so then rising up with this opposition amendment plan is actually a reaction to that. well that's possible it's difficult difficult. on the opposition i think it's not just about parties in parliament there are a very small part is of course the conservatives to grandma and a couple of the others but between them they must have only about twenty odd m.p.'s but there is also in civil society a couple of movements that have been announced one of them took my attention the other day the union for the protection of the constitution which i think has signed up with a number of prominent personalities in the country including a mom and i'm also that and some other politicians so civil society i think is

going to be working. to do what it can on opposition although i must say i kind of agree with the other guests the prospects for success have got to be considered fairly fairly dim one other thing the president did say on more than one occasion i think most recently even last year that he had no intention of changing the constitution or serving. term out beyond what was actually in the two thousand and fourteen constitution i can't by the way agree with your previous guest when he compares it to the two thousand and twelve document but let's put that on one side . but the president does say that now i wonder with that in mind of course this all has to go to the president at some stage in the parliamentary process. it'll be interesting to see how he reacts to the report that will come from the parliament proposing these amendments when he has to sign off before the referendum is taking place it'll be very interesting to see how he explains that because he has been

very clear since he came into power that he was going not to change the constitution that he was going to stick to the two terms as laid down in two thousand and fourteen timothy kaldis give us a sense of how people perceive him there in egypt some of his critics say he's actually worse than mubarak the military and the people that have run egypt have come from the military on so many different occasions if you put him in the the gamut the range of past presidents where would you play would you see him. i mean he's undeniably the most repressive. person to lead egypt and it's my spirit it's not even i mean it's not really debatable the but to be fair on him best arends point he also promised in twenty thirty not to run for president at all so i mean him breaking his word in terms of extending his rule of control over the country is hardly surprising. and on the constitutional debate i mean they're they're both pretty bad documents that have poor checks and balances built into them. i think that fundamentally the population's approval of c.c.

has been in decline for a number of years due to the deteriorating economic situation the question it for most of their purchasing power is collapse and the currency collapse inflation has been at record levels it's starting to come down now but for quite some time we were well into we were getting thirty plus percent. so people have been struggling for quite a long time and she said that promising that there will be some sort of respite from this but they haven't really been feeling it and with the in just a bit further reduction of fuel subsidies that should be coming into effect this year it will continue to give momentum to the inflationary challenges that the country already faces. mohamed el masry why is the outside world been relatively quiet about him being in the top job and how he does it when he is that office because you know about it was there for a long time he was kind of normalized there was a distinct sense with him last leave before the arab spring there was a sense that yes we can work within one thinking about the relationship with the

united states peace in the middle east the palestinian territories etc but with l.c.c. the sense the feeling is something different you know well when you say the outside world i mean it really depends on who you're talking about i mean if you're talking about saudi arabia and the united arab emirates and other allies in the arab region it's pretty clear why they want the egyptian military establishment to remain strong and to remain powerful they're opposed to any sort of democratic movement or momentum in the area because they're scared about their own holds over over power in terms of the west i think that western governments have made some strategic miscalculations you know the obama administration had a brief window of opportunity in two thousand and thirteen to simply declare what happened in egypt a military coup d'etat which would have been forced the united states out of its funding relationship with the egyptian military the u.s. would have been forced by american law to stop funding the egyptian military. there

obama administration opted to continue its relationship and it's been more or less business business as usual and i think the reason i don't agree with it but i think the reason why is they perceive sisi and other authoritarian leaders to be capable of bringing about the kind of long term stability in the region that they that they desire and being able to more broadly help achieve american and other western strategic interests i think that's a miscalculation for many reasons but if you look at the last five years and i think timothy was speaking to this there have been there's been more instability in egypt over the. five years post-coup than at any other time in egypt's modern history there been more terrorist attacks more violence by vigilante groups and also by the state than in other than any other point in time so sisi has failed on that front he's failed on the economic front as timothy was also speaking to and on

and in other areas as well james in brussels clearly he's a clever guy but does he know that his popularity is waning the the issue of the two islands that he has in effect gifted to saudi arabia the austerity message is not popular toll across the country and the economy is not flat lining but it's going down the way. well there's a certain popularity had to come down from the stratospheric heights that he enjoyed two or three years ago but on the economy. here i'm going to have to disagree with the previous speaker i think that's an area where there have been developments i'm not saying that's necessarily because of the type of governance that egypt's had over the last two or three years is to do with many other. things but a point to have been lucky there of a major gas discoveries in the eastern mediterranean which will make a big difference to the country in the next ten twenty years they have had a fairly successful i.m.f. program in place for the last two or three years i know it's plain to some extent of the inflation of a couple of years ago and people continue to look upon it critically but it has

made some difference on the fuel subsidy frankly speaking that's good riddance to it most of the people that benefited from the fuel subsidy it were the rich the elite diplomats like i was i mean we used to pay a pittance for our petrol it was quite scandalous of this was the case and the fuel subsidy frankly speaking was really doing nothing for the poor and the unemployed in the country now the country does have an opportunity ahead of it in the next few years to actually develop reasonably well forecasts are showing five percent plus growth it's not brilliant but it's not bad on employment has come down just a tick in the last twelve months there is a possibility of going forward here but i wonder whether these are members in the constitution will really help that i don't think so they talk about stability was the ability fine but if you're going to have a situation where you don't have a good dialogue between the different sectors of society you're not nice the business elite and the government and the governance and if you're going to have

difficulties with military involvement in the economy which of course is another issue which has come to the horn the last couple of years you're going to have difficulty at the end of the day in raising the egyptian economies competitiveness and sustainability in the longer term ok and just let me interrupt you because we'll get all solution in the program. and i do want to hit a couple of final points first point you mohamed el masry here in doha fast forward twenty thirty four and we've had in power for all those he is would you would you recognize egypt then compared to what it is today egypt's been more or less the same authoritarian state for the better part of sixty years so i guess i guess yes . i would expect also if if he's still alive in two thousand and thirty four that there would be another amendment to give him a lifetime you know lifetime rule very briefly if i may this idea that ccs popularity was at stratospheric heights back a few years ago is is not really accurate the only opinion polling data that we

have a scientific opinion polling dating that data that we have from two thousand and thirteen at his height is from zogby and pew and they both put his popularity his approval rating at about fifty percent which was about the same as the president that he ousted mohamed morsi. and on the economy quickly it's true that some of the macro level measures show that egypt has improved but at the micro level which is what timothy was speaking about for the average egyptian things have become almost unbearable to me think held us in cairo are we also saying that his true ability to carry on as president of egypt really comes down to says three things i guess trumps patronage because you already talked about the u.s. administration and also the american and the israeli belief that he can keep a lid on the country because that's got to be a mirroring function of their strategic interests in the region i don't think i

would limit his longevity to external support and is a lot of internal variables within the government the different centers of power within the regime and how everything gets negotiated he has been very effective at consolidating that power and putting loyalists and very powerful positions such as minister of defense head of intelligence service center. that said i would i would also expand the pool of external support to europe europe has basically concluded that if she hears it is useful to them or supportive to their agenda preventing migration from egypt then. his other crimes can be overlooked. while they might make comments about them in press conferences it doesn't affect them it's your relationship whether it be related to arms sales or. or other trade deals the reality is that. the presidency she is seen as the devil they know and one that they can do business with and they have james moron in brussels is there also a chance here that he might react in the worst possible way if he thinks his his

potential problems are mounting an increasing exponentially. i'm not quite sure what you mean by that react against who react against the people react against other politicians he is known as being very very or thorough terrorism i don't think that is going to happen anytime soon. my feeling having returned to egypt number of times since being the resident is that there's a certain fatalism in the country about what is to come in the years ahead. there is also still a worry i think in the general population about the return of instability in the streets and whilst his popularity certainly whatever we would have of figures we take his popularity is nowhere near what it used to be when he first came in there was a lack of for the time being of a credible alternative leadership that is partly explained of course by the policies of the regime itself in terms of oppression and so on but i think for the next few years. he is relatively secure and i don't think we're going to see any

great civil unrest from either side in the years to come what i'm what i really worry about here is that this constitutional amendment process is basically throwing what's left of the baby out with the bathwater when it comes to the more positive changes that came after the revolution of two thousand the ok that is a great pity and a great shame i just want to put the last point of the program to timothy called us in cairo you were there timothy ground zero have we been asking the wrong question on the program today should the question really have been when is the next revolution coming in egypt and i'm asking that quite seriously because it occurs to me that you know mohammed was saying basically we've had military dictatorship or something they're all for close to the past what fifty five sixty years but timothy should the question be it's all going to change but we just can't anticipate when i don't think that we have a realistic way of predicting that. and it gets asked a lot i think every time there's a little bit of unrest there's a little bit of activity people jump to conclusions grounded largely in wishful

thinking about what in. i mean i mean when they were reshuffles of the security apparatus. a year ago and c.c. was replacing the defense minister and his intelligence people thought that oh there's turmoil in the regime and weakened in reality he consolidated a very effectively without any consequences measure put his loyalists in these extremely powerful positions and lock up the former head of the armed forces so that in the seventy two hours or so i mean the end he's clearly sticking around but is it possible that people reach a breaking points given all the economic pressure they're under short is there any sense of inevitability on that front i don't think so i mean also keep in mind that from the perspective of most egyptians they've overthrown two governments in the last several years and their lives have more or less gotten economically worse after each instance of that so there's also limited faith in the ability of an uprising to deliver positive change and convincing them otherwise is going to be part of the challenge going forward should they seek to try to do bring an end to this authoritarian rule gentlemen we must leave it there thanks to all our guests

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country washington has also announced visa bans on members of the prime minister a constituent assembly as for discussions with europe negotiating with him on his departure is fine if we ever get to that negotiation obviously he may flee some day or he may seek to negotiate conditions but that's not what he's done in the past what he's done in the past is to use these negotiations to prolong his stay in power and to try to demonstrate his legitimacy and that we're gents. and the gallagher has more from washington d.c. well if you going to take anything away from what elliott abrams the u.s. envoy to venezuela had to say it's this that the negotiations with nicolas maduro will only go forward if it is to talk about his departure now he's also talked about banning those close to nicolas maduro from traveling increasing the political pressure and meanwhile in montevideo you've got european and latin american leaders

really noting more of a cautious approach to this saying that they part shouldn't be too many rash decisions taken at this point but they would like to see both sides in venezuela get to the negotiating table and try and start some kind of democratic elections meanwhile you've got aid moving towards the venezuelan border that is not being let in by the venezuelan military meanwhile of the center of all this is a massive humanitarian crisis that clearly there is a great deal of desire across the world to see the situation resolved to see democracy restored in venezuela but you've got very different approaches between the leaders in montevideo and the u.s. government and the trumpet ministration in particular they're making no bones about this they want to see nicolas maduro gone as soon as possible they want that to be a peaceful transition and increasingly ever since one glider has declared himself interim president his support across the world is growing but meanwhile the

conditions for the people in venezuela are getting worse each and every day the un human rights envoy investigating the matter of journalist jamal khashoggi says it was a brutal premeditated killing planned and perpetrated by saudi officials the findings by a special rapporteur agnus kalamata follow a week long mission to tackle to examine evidence to get to james bay as has more from the u.n. . although it's an initial statement it's a pretty damning statement it's a continued embarrassment i think to saudi arabia which had hoped to put this behind them this is still out there and of course is only a short statement and there is likely to be more to come because the investigation continues the stalemate continues over breaks that e.u. leaders say the u.k. withdrawal agreement struck in november cannot be renegotiated although both sides have agreed to hold more talks to try to avoid the u.k. leaving without a deal white house aides hard question who will travel to the middle east later

this month he'll be visiting to present part of his peace plan for the region president son in law will visit him on the train saudi arabia the u.a.e. and qatar thousands of people have been demonstrating in the haitian capital demanding for the president to step down protesters and port au prince one just over an hour noisy to resign for not investing allegations of corruption in the previous government over petro career day venezuelan subsidized energy program sudanese protesters are calling for the release of activists detained during weeks of demonstrations against president omar al bashir the rally was called to express solidarity with the hundreds of people who have been arrested since protests started in december human rights activists say at least forty five have been killed rescue teams and turkey have pulled more than a dozen survivors from the rubble of a building that collapsed in istanbul the apartment block came down on wednesday

evening and at least eleven people are confirmed dead it's believed others are still trapped those are the headlines i'll be back here with more news after witness do stay with us.

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