today there are fewer boots on the tigris compared with when he started out with his father. making a living here is tougher now than ever. dad has been through appalling of people in the past three decades and that has affected the river environment as much as the land mines. or. whatever. at war. with one essential at war. allaround and with. iraq i want here. as the capital baghdad has been the focus of the outside attacks and internal

turmoil that have hit iraq in recent years. but for the people of the marshlands in the south disruption to their way of life goes back further to the one nine hundred fifty s. . in some ways little has changed here for the past hundred years nets are still produced and hung just as they've always been. the long canoe shaped fishing boats are still builds to the same design as they were in the nineteenth century. but between the nineteen fifties and one nine hundred ninety s. . large areas of the wetlands in the tigris euphrates river system where people

like that and his wife live were trained. the reasons were primarily political to force the mad dan people or marsh arabs out of the area by diverting water and to punish them for their part in an uprising against saddam for staines government in one nine hundred ninety one. that saddam reduced the nine thousand square kilometers of what clowns in the one nine hundred seventy s. to just seven hundred and sixty square kilometers when his government fell in two thousand and three. the displacement of over two hundred thousand marsh arabs and the campaign of violence against them let the international community to condemn it as ethnic cleansing. the united nations has described the draining of the marshes as

a tragic human and environmental catastrophe on a par with the deforestation of the amazon rain forest. but the marshes were later reflooded and hyde and his wife returned to the water. on a local affair and i got around. to hear. them read the heart of the middle very. very well you know how with the you know i left the war. right now long one tab now i am astounded at marco. ah. i don't know if i had been telling the whole yarn a fatalist in atlanta why did i hate him. and why that. the plot of the so why should i said when i saw the sheep i then heave

a lot of the video i haven't had any downside that's like me lot of other evidence you. gotta sniff it out i never had a face my broken bottle and i seven have no want to an audience i was a little nervous. or would not let go of your head out of heaven she was and over sick of the man of the law god bless him and what i said god honest of she will hide what on this since you have no clue why don't have a side issue that no one of you know of and what are the ones you love you and glad i got on the console and that. guardian of your i'd live in and if you've been a full. guided id fear of everything going was well you know who. you are. i had a very little article we're. going

to have to have when our. house will have our own will for what. you know. the law. and what the other article are. up to and on high there's area of champaign is now recovering thanks to the reflooding following the fall of saddam hussein in two thousand and three.

large areas of the marsh and and three ancient cities have now been included in unesco's list of world heritage sites but the reflooding has not restored the wetlands to their pre-drilling it states. the damage to the iraqi environment has also not been limited to the marshlands. iraq as a whole has suffered massive turmoil in the past thirty years. saddam's invasion of kuwait in august one nine hundred ninety led to the first gulf war and defeat by a coalition led by the united states the effect on the country was described as near apocalyptic taking iraq back to the pre-industrial age. then the two thousand and three u.s. led invasion of iraq and fall of saddam hussein's government the occupation and violent insurgency caused further widespread destruction the armed group i saw

was a major part of the post-war insurgency its military activity in iraq and the campaign against it by the iraqi government and western forces have led to huge damage to infrastructure and the environment. the tigris in baghdad where ahmed khalid ekes out a living has been badly affected by this prolonged period of violence and instability . if i'm with. a lot of fun a social. i don't have the belief. that she was one of the best so much usual that. if. she doesn't.

no one. i had. not had a. thing i had and the other not a question any in the head and fear not. the instability and heightened security. have led to an increased police presence on the river. harvey. said i want to. know something a little more so now when we. do just that is about the fellow with one of those or

innocent i think it's the with them i mean the moment. right. in the way. i believe i got. the lodge and they did. not want to. know. that i was on one of the back with. its problems on the tigris are to do with restrictions on his movements but on the euphrates in the south the major issue is with water quality. salt levels have risen because of dams higher up the river in syria and turkey

there's waste from agriculture. and sewage from cities all if. used. was. bad. and the good bishop of feeding.

one ended. the war. and. the water from the euphrates because of the drop in water level increasing.

furthermore in late twenty eighteen tens of thousands of freshwater fish died in the euphrates south of baghdad and soaring pollution is believed to be a major factor behind the sudden death of the fish i mean. yeah i mean how wildly how. monopolists. we're doing on a song that's a lot of although i lived in a lot of wild about you really how do. you measure that i don't. i mean it's a match and if you watch a lot all shop so much as it was me jovan not a. model muscle me this is the well i still. think i'd gotten a job i was actually. a

mother. oh. no i don't i. just. well just. the dams built up river on the euphrates in syria turkey and iran are also having an effect on the marshlands in southern iraq. this is impeding conservation and restoration efforts in the wetlands the dams have reduced the flow of water

reaching iraq since one nine hundred seventy by as much as the hof. hundreds of people have been forced to migrate from iraq's once fertile central marshes because of the lower water levels not at all i've not had anyone i've never had all the of a live in their feet quite not at. all and i've never seen or made it harder to have a record of living well. now than we are now he'll be. ok i know he's a flea i hope. of lego star i didn't hear any one with her right or a little one with the war room deal so i didn't want to do it it all on my. world on monday you know did i was that good i did my little i would argue. the.

front on my wall thing and i know hitting out. of one might mean i didn't. know what i will yell and why did you in any of them have i. know we had it in. my head right now is there a lot of knowledge that you. i don't know. but the problems of the marshes and the upper rivers extend on a larger scale beyond the point where the two ancient rivers the tigris and the euphrates merge at basra. from here the vast channel of the shuttle out of waterway runs through basra province into their goals. coming up the shuttle a lot of waterway faces an environmental catastrophe that's taking with it

livestock and fisheries and i really the point though is that walking and that you know what. the animal from what i've a and as this year is now in majority in malaysia and i start here. and iraqi fishermen say they often fall foul of the kuwaiti and if we need these patrolling maritime borders on the front line of a dispute that once led to out an outdoor others are all the. output and where. four of the. then. go out of them in. public work but not meet up alderman of the mean mean other in the rubble out of. many. of us are ya. rewind returns a care bring your people back to life from start with brand new updates on the best

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remember you can always go to the zero website al-jazeera dot com i'll be back in about half an hour. after hour. for thousands of years two famous rivers the tigris and euphrates media iraq one of the most fertile regions in the middle east. the first urban settlements grew up on the lands between them and the cradle of civilization. but today things are dramatically different for the rivers and the people who depended on them decades of war sanctions upstream dams pollution and a phone in water levels have seriously damaged iraq's engines rivers and water resources. the sutta lot of

waterway runs one hundred and eighty four kilometers south from the confluence of the tigris and the euphrates in basra province and forms the border with iran. it provides access to the arabian gulf iraq's vital source of commercial sea fishing. either the deal how i just tell us they are zero out of a literal a house rizal side. down a little. dollars on the. so the. at the most. of it is somewhat of. a mob. and etc. i've been told i'm a bit here then mocking alan and. as some of the.

donovan out there are none. other can let david minute go into. a minute jonathan listen i have to challenge and it was the saudi and their little white house. give me a mr mr g. to be a how hard to stuff on the engine and them as i had stalled here i don't know how i think. but has to massage. the children and i can't be said house and i don't mean any married to get out until it was march that if achieve some sort of time while. you would because. it is so i don't do that with the club those who. have been doing. the market have

been million in most of the people who do to see the g.p. you know there was to do as much of it but how did you survive the demise of us you saw a bunch of them but the how to get them is about must begin to counter. some of the one of those of the. it will not. me a me or him see the. these boats now stand idle in the port of umm foul at the south east end of the and fall peninsula on the right bank of the shuttle. rusting old diesel boats pollutes the waterways. and foul has around forty thousand inhabitants and is a traditional fishing community but town officials admit that's hundreds of families have now left in search of other work leaving the ports in danger of

becoming a ghost town. mark without. go ahead. yeah an eternity. i was just going to dump but nothing got done about the been out of that meeting. has about me got me arrested beat. me. at the piano. well you know not about thirty macho in my photo. here get it if they were. because i read that one. out of the outside that that is weird. on. our blog but that's my house and my our. one side of a peninsula is a fifty kilometer stretch of coastline peace in kuwait. the

other has the shuttle a lot of water weight which runs alongside the marshes of southern iran. pollution the shocked a lot up and produced fish stocks in their own territorial waters have forced iraqi fishermen to risk sailing close to rainy and kuwaiti waters. believing them richer in fish stocks or to deliberate trespass into foreign water used in the hope of a quick and easy catch. these fishermen used to be protected by the iraqi navy but that's now to peter and largely card to the country's oil terminals.

out of we out to be really on. no. matter how dare you have a. little bit but i will on a through if i want to do it. because. there's. they are going to. hear out of all the me ira levy is the media most of month will be on the town why and mess and a little more door than manually do on the end of the alley as output and where there are four of them look at iraq me not my robin is yet to do and i'll say our new knowledge you are then they are involved you know out of them and. for not meet

up on one of the mean mean there is a lot of adults. many. of us are. as if pollution and the perceived threat from kuwait and iran were not enough the fishermen on the shuttle are up and in the gulf have to deal with iraqi security checks. as once young women are developed a heart of a lot of the market would market with as you achieved event going to be there no not that you could do it or you know about it i didn't even know the answer and. i do know that our g.

it out because it would have been like. the result of immigration and you know it would have a lie would have covered only because of. those i don't know i mean other than in a lot of work we were punishing. the wrestle for control of the shuttle out of watching when was one of the causes of the long costly and deter war between iraq and iran throughout most of the one nine hundred eighty s. . that's border disputes is still not settled. kuwait and iraq have also yet to agree on a sea border in negotiations which have been going on since the invasion of kuwait in one thousand. that sparked the gulf war.

many fishermen at the docks iraqis are viewed with hostility by cretins who are still bitter over their conflicts with iraq in the one nine hundred eighty s. and ninety's. in basra province this is not the size of fish or catch the disease many meet to earn a living. it's a meager return for a day on the watch. the shuttle out of here suffers from increasing pollution with industrial waste domestic sewage and agricultural fertilizers after finding their way into its waters no surprise then that fish stocks are diminishing.

the salty tide from their arabian gulf has also advanced north up the. resulting in an out of fresh water. some fishermen have also resorted to damaging ways of catching fish including using poison to bring them to the surface. and be similar or you would get a. minute join us and then. with. the yet another half wit to cinch it as a ticket that i sent them i believe the boys could go if there was getting a and as essential condition i did

a lot of ducking work it. was the dynamics and. so on why suman and that's it i was. just an american what archive a and as this year said now in majority my list up as southey a j e the bash up there an element of i got a macair to jerry that bit much intimate i shop for and i bought my main on a stone god then and had a man that i didn't why when i damaged r.d. i would not get out of the shop then a hero or hide them id i thought i had a model i was shocked.

to learn. of. but alone. had a good. dial to follow should be a tough. one to me what it is i just really just said we know how to. party said and said i said i said exactly. son and son i got the id when you look. who went down to the on us and do want another because of. this but either way you're also. a laugh when i was desperate to set up an r.c. just because. you know what i am i'm not the money shot. send us at all with that at the shop. i shall see john as i can i show up at core

as the one i'm on you know most of the younger. back in baghdad. now talks in a similar negative way about life on the tigris. not had minute. not had one law missed when i was out of the. whole i had not thought of not as high as it like. and how long hand has i've had i know. and understood their marshes inch by inch the u.n.

environment program sees that thirty seven percent of the permanent twenty lines have now been restored. their food recovery will take many more years. well as to why the mom market was going to drag on another john model year when i was you know a liar when i was in the world i'm not i don't i was you know another now when i was in the idea of god almighty god will i'm in the very model of the third of the world we're all in it i would run the amount of coverage i'd like i had my own more than i had a live there were not even know under five hundred i was under the yard undercover i was there no i don't i. know you i give your my i give you money if. i was.

but away from the problems facing professional fishermen and the pollution of the euphrates and. there is one positive heartwarming story. i mean i that. when i look at. that site i.

doesn't come from a fishing family but has befriended a local tigris fishermen. and discovered a love of the ancient river. like a god. or their. backyard and. given. more. beguiling together. at their better. wherever their bit. was a lot of us are there said i was so with it. at the rising.

at letters. of the just. a matter. so what i need yet i am. not on the record tell us. exactly where the lawyer is going to shift our constitutional tomorrow i want to tell. you i had madonna time so really trying to so with brought. a lot of boys. i'm

a seventh oh yeah no question you were you would you agree with you. michel pulled over. also. if you all august after. the judge weller thought on clue issue which i didn't even have so i was only shown to have like a man who waits had like a sore arm with it but any leans you know only i ok it led to a quick obvious i look at communism come in and say that i said god bless the drug field really the minute there's a week. then you know i didn't even mean why no no no. no. we're not man or. i didn't know i'm not. one i'm not

a federal law that said no you're not. they are near government and about five not anyway i family of of them. i'm going to go look at the not so much comes in below me and you can go to any college in another layer by ramtha county near if you're going to run your address . than a good night many philly. after honeymooning give this match a fresh opinion on hi fi i'm kinda shovelhead us and you. are no business in a toilet for how i assign you a lucky hyphen one of the only find your net and showing your legs. in the leather way. then mess up the damage that the pajama bottoms not in the way that

an affair while you get how well it would not have a novice even a monster. that loosely trouble the. owner as it is it and that that was shot last night you know on the list so that i'll be out as how as i will just tell what i'll. do the child of god well. i watch our early. earth understand that i love her

a lot of it tell them well. that's just a. mess good is a traditional mr putting in dish made by cooking seasoned fresh water car on the fire. cooked it in the marshlands and it's often considered iraq's national dish. but that prides itself in making the best mess go with the up you know was district almost dedicated to the dish in its dozens of fish restaurants. have been a good cult leader but we. say live i live. i one what i never thought of when. as being. us is you me bush

us and i was just a. suggested story shows how iraq's greet each inch rivers are still close to the heart of its people. today's crisis means that iraq won so abundant in water resources now imports sixty percent of its fish. but above all it's threatens the roots of iraq's identity as the land between the two rivers the tigris and the euphrates on which the country and its people have depended for thousands of years. a story of revolution defiance and murder them dogood a major figure in the war against the french occupation of biology

a friend. whose bravery even impressed and untrue inspired others in the fight for independence after his death is that a good deed we're going to allow to be ben mcgeady the algerian revolutionary on al-jazeera. we've got some rather wet weather pushing into northern parts of argentina and edging across towards your goal as we go on through the next day all such lots of cattle it is showing up here. into northern areas of cheating where we have seen

some flooding pushing up into some parts offer of more of the same as we go on through sunday the big shows they stand their way into the heart of the amazon where not see bad on sunday monday will see further spells of rice starts to push his way in his debate down posed by the way it is whether it's going to be around the southeast of brazil across a good part of europe why northern areas of argentina just around the river plate and twenty three celsius there for but to save us on monday further north it's father dry for a good part of those northern fringes of south america venezuela colombia panama set fair with the sunshine coming through here as is the case right across the caribbean western pos of the region much to see one it's just slide in their way in nicaragua costa rica up towards on jirus guatemala but essentially it looks fine and dry lots of lovely tropical sunshine much of central and northern parts of cuba as we go through monday we will see some rather heavy rain possibly some snow

making its way across the great plains of the u.s. lots of wintry weather following behind. it was sponsored by qatar it was. their money they are gold which they have and i believe simply to be finished. very good before. i know fifty. we have been playing see do it but it's not done yet we have a separate bomb he and me right yes it is definitely going to but we want to do a good way for the future then she gave me a few test frames that i am not losing somebody in your bed this year has been in service and i also lived a good week so this should do me good make a mess of. the neighborhood and leave and many national pains are still pending we see d.p.'s

farmers continue their. same duties commenced coming. here i thought just because they wanted to me could you were good so i thought for more children from want. to do this and no becomes almost all says they're not doing. some things their mother needs to come let me that you know just to just to do not over to them but now i need to make you. feel better i'd be good to fight them understand that there have to greet us at the dentist who don't. know him and people. who begs him to do them because he does it send to get him and we have demented issue or opposition to the spirit of the we don't want to go right to be

on the wrong word. you know. when you go. for the good reason. to be taller. than the good everybody you know you see me wrong i don't do any. good looking on the ceiling. my friend to be sure that i have good business in the city. this is al-jazeera. hello and welcome to this al-jazeera news hour live from doha. this coming up in

the next sixty minutes. the united states and russia often rival resolutions on how to solve this wireless venezuela's political crisis. the final push to force out i saw from syria u.s. backed forces prepare for a ground battle. israel says a limper meant a controversial new law that would cost palestinians millions of dollars. and i'm lee harding with all of your support as lindsey vonn races for the last time in her glittering career at the ski world championships in sweden that and more coming up later this news hour. now both the u.s. and russia have come up with counter proposal to try to end the political crisis in venezuela the u.s. is calling for fresh elections while nicolas maduro is still president

a draft resolution. circulating at the u.n. is also seeking the delivery of aid for that to be mandated there russia's alternative plan its counter ideas is expressing concern that any outside attempt to try to use force to to regime change or topple mature and put in the opposition leader. no set though has been set for a full discussion of these resolutions or indeed a vote meanwhile thousands of venezuelans are continuing to cross over into colombia any way they can some routes open and those who can afford it they're going over to buy goods that aren't available at home. and aid from the u.s. has become part of the crisis president maduro says it's a ploy by washington to stage a coup international organizations that traditionally deal with aids

a keeping away some are saying what the u.s. is sending is political aid and as terrorism reports from the capital caracas people are as much divided by the offer of help. yankees go home is the message of this gathering in plus i want to ask. these are supporters of president. who want to reassure the world that their precedent won't be leaving office any time soon. and old our revolution is here to stay twenty years of unique process in latin america we are going to be again the latest of a movement that will take freedom to other countries in the world the rally is happening as the united states and canada are getting wedded to sending aid in cooperation with a self declared president why the aid is perceived here as a form of intervention people here say that the confrontation is not with the opposition but with a united states who is trying to take control of this country's natural resources

and that's why they have come here to this last hour to sign a document that requests the united states to respect venezuela sovereignty but him one of the largest barriers in latin america but totally said says people need almost everything all her family has already left the country she says hyperinflation makes it difficult for her to eat every day the resoled so no water gas or health clinic where she lives an example of the enormous deterioration that has taken over venezuela's capital the. since died the situation got worse and worse now it's horrible i cannot say i'm going to buy chicken because i can't afford it i live on pension of six dollars a month and that's why. i waiting for any assistance they may get not caring where it comes from the u.s. is already sending food and medicines to the border but how it makes it into the

country remains to be seen international organizations fear the consequences of using in a politically confronting situation on the humanitarian aid and this is the reason why i decided to come. here in trying to fix and to ask both sides to clean the table from the discussion. because. in politicizing the humanitarian. we want to use our you money. without any involvement. because there is we should call. it not you money. by definition. in a country as polarized as venezuela neutrality is difficult to find. and that's why assistance from abroad is being used by both sides for the government it's the evidence it's under attack for the opposition the possibility

of showing it can bring some type of relief to people's lives. and just got back us ok additional forces backed by the u.s. are trying to push out of its last pocket of territory in eastern syria twenty thousand civilians have been taken to safety they were held by the armed group but hundreds of people are still thought to be inside the offensive by the s.t.'s for the syrian democratic forces is focused on the village of bug goods now that's very close to the border with iraq this report now from. the stage is set for what's being called the final ground battle against ice all the kurdish led syrian democratic forces. has the backing of american air power and i saw is surrounded. there's already been exchanges of fire commanders are confident that this will be i sold last. this battle will be sealed in the next

coming days. most of the terrorists in. the last two months most two hundred rested they were. there are varying numbers. of thousand civilians and between five hundred six hundred terrorists so that means that maybe close to two thousand or three thousand civilians. eisel once controlled large parts of iraq in syria but a concerted campaign by regional and international forces has forced them back to a small area around the village of bugaboos. well s.d.f. military commanders are promoting this as the end of eisel many experts believe the group will continue to pose a threat president trump has been very clear to say that this is to kill off it that is being destroyed not isis a terrorist group which will continue to survive and as we know isis members have fled to yemen to libya nigeria they're there they're scattered about the middle

east but of course this is the we believe there are several thousand left scattered around iraq in syria and many of them are foreign fighters the coming battle will be a milestone in syria's war but humanitarian challenges will continue long after the fighting ends around twenty thousand people have been forced from their homes ahead of the assault on both guus including the families of eisel fighters. still doing thousands more in refugee camps where conditions are dire due to chronic shortages of food and medicines much of the country's infrastructure is in ruins these people won't know when they'll be able to return home into modern al-jazeera. i'm going to talk to two of our chorus and a correspondent on this story castrations in washington versus get him on khan he's in gaza and to have that filner tell his side of the border very close to syria and what are you hearing him around about this final push as it's being described we're

only getting this information it would appear from the s.d.f. itself. well the s.t.'s telling us is that there were clashes taking place across sunday as they pushed to wards the village of other but was the village but was is when most of the isis fighters also five to six hundred according to civilians have managed to escape from that area and they're also telling us and this actually tallies with what we saw. in iraq with the buffer will be very tough once they. get into and closer to the village what they do is the surrounding the village of all the groups at the moment but the outskirts of the village those houses have actually been booby trapped. it's a tactic that we've seen in the news very effectively in iraq and in syria before when they've been surrounded so it's likely that what's going to happen is the s.t.a. forces will push ever closer to under the protection of coalition airstrikes now

sunday into. sunday night we saw take place it's likely that we'll see more of those strikes take place again but they simply can't go in and call that bomb the area because all of those civilians that are trapped inside now we did have at least two hundred civilians managed to escape ins on sunday morning they managed to get to the f. areas but there are still civilians there so that's a real problem for the fighters but they all very confident they say they will push in that village in the next coming days and so there is another the schools. is another pockets of suffices that the. fight is as well but there's a lot of talk about you know the caliphate and the palace being destroyed but we have to understand what does that caliphate actually mean is it simply a place where i still flights or is it as it was in two thousand and fourteen two

thousand and fifteen a place where i saw rule brian generate revenue from through the levying of taxes through the smuggling of. oil so what we're hearing for us to fight is this this is actually where the pockets of our suffices remain in that area but it's not the caliphate that we may have traditionally understood and iran given your knowledge of previous battles against where indeed the coalition forces have been successful what will happen because eventually of course i still will be either driven out or they will be eradicated from this pocket of land what will they do with the fighters what will they do with the fighters families for instance and indeed the territory itself. well this is likely to be a very hard core fighters who saw this in iraq during two thousand and seventeen as well when those bottles took place these are the people that simply are going to go nowhere they haven't given themselves up and they're looking to a fight and

a very deadly fight now if it's the same types of that we've seen in iraq we saw for example that they'll try and funnel in the fighters through two or three corridos within to within the village itself and they'll try and like that is likely to be a very tough fight but in terms of actually giving up a lot of arsal forces have already given up from those villages they've been arrested they've been taken away and they are now in s.t.'s controlled areas what happens then we don't know but these fighters they likely to be the hardcore and if you take a look at any kind of i suppose we're going to say that they're going to fight to the death all right a man thank you for that let's go over to washington now and correspondent heidi it was about a couple of days ago wasn't it the donald trump stood up and said that i saw was already defeated it sounds as though he's not making a distinction between the caliphate and the ideology. that's right and there has been so much shifting mess.