tv NEWSHOUR Al Jazeera February 15, 2019 5:00am-6:00am +03
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i think people in the hacker community many people in america. edward snowden welcome. thank you. more than forty years after daniel ellsberg n.s.a. employee edward snowden emerges as a whistleblower the usa now has a new public enemy number one. thanks to manning and now do you i'm getting more favorable publicity. in forty years. because suddenly people who were all for putting me in prison for life before now realize that i was really a very good guy i was the. i was the good whistleblower and so i'm i'm totally of course rejected this from the beginning that i didn't want to be a foil for. showing a badly to people that i totally admire there was a moment of hope x. the hope x. conference in july in new york city. ellsberg. i was
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having a live conversation with snowden we have a front as a mayor and as members of the global community and know the broad outlines of the hard policies that have a significant impact on our lives and i think that's something that tom grant showed me how to do the right way. there was a moment where he said. very clearly very distinctly that i showed him the right way. i had always hope that it's now become a law. thomas drake served during the cold war in europe in the one nine hundred eighty s. with the u.s. air force which included work as a signals analyst on spy planes hoovering the soviet union so my day job is a reconnaissance a better country. and they're right by the way was the computers.
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this is it was a vast a world that you're now you you bowl is particularly your very quickly you know the old for this. is you know chaos pewter. version of that or in the one nine hundred ninety s. drake worked as a software developer for the cia in september two thousand and one he was hired as a senior analyst by the n.s.a. . my first ever job as nine eleven we were working on you know sixteen eighteen hour days i mean it was about those four months after nine eleven or a blur because as it was just. you're net we recognized that this was a significant event in history. whatever you got in a fight whatever you got the labs we need it whatever tools you can use to
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prosecute those behind. nine eleven do it. i was selected as the designated senior executive and say the lead up that effort to find anything we had to fight and so i did and that's where i brought to the attention of others tools techniques programs things are in the lab things are pilots things that are being dissed testbed the mantra that went out from n.s.a. by general hayden he kept going around saying we just need to make americans feel safe again feel safe even at banners and i discovered during those first couple three weeks after nine eleven all this information that we as you imagine was pouring in after nine eleven literally being use to monitor and survey well and intercept u.s. domestic communications on an extraordinarily broad scale. i was finding this out
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within days of nine eleven and others were coming to me saying what are we doing. among the snowden documents were figures for the u.s. secret service budget. since september eleventh they supposedly doubled by twenty five billion to fifty two billion u.s. dollars in two thousand and thirteen. the surveillance programs continue to metastasize they continue expand in ways that still have not been fully revealed. and this became sort of the collect all mindset mentality what does that lead to well yes you. see korea zation you have these other interesting arrangements with certain internet providers and telecommunication concerns temptations are enormous and it's like a you know give us access or back in or open it up and that's what happened
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and now you're seeing a lot of this unfold. the national security agency n.s.a. for short the largest foreign intelligence agency in the usa has been responsible for the worldwide monitoring of electronic communications since one thousand nine hundred fifty two. some of the thirty five thousand employees weren't comfortable with the massive expansion of surveillance since september eleventh. all of the colleagues that i knew which was just a handful bill binnie ed loomis kirk we chose to retire from the n.s.a. in late october two thousand and one they realize what was happening they could not stand by and see the subversion of the constitution and all the work that they had done being used for mass surveillance they left the agency i begged them to stay i chose to remain. and fight from with it as long as i could
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i got mad at them you know so i my my objective was that counter attack i don't believe in defense you know just sitting back and being defensive i mean you have to get out there and attack so that's what i started doing that was my point it's time to attack so basically was a declaration of war. against my government. william binney mathematician and programmer initially worked for the n.s.a. as an analyst then later as the technical director of the secret service. as the boss of a six thousand strong team he developed a wiretap program that anonymously filtered and processed large volumes of data. i tried to do that the right thing right after nine eleven trying to make a contribution that would make a difference they refused to accept it so it was basically blocked that there was
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nothing i could do they would accept nothing from me the n.s.a. directors decided against the program from vinny's team and opted for another they collected much more data. the problem is i helped in designing the system that's in use. because i knew what was possible once they started using those programs and opening it up to massive data input on everybody in the planet so it was pretty clear that it was obvious to me how they were using it and what they're doing with it so i mean because i understood the design of the systems. and so after that when they started spying on us citizens violating the constitution i had to leave i couldn't be a part of all the criminal activity that was going on and that's fundamentally i call that treason against the country so i got out at the end of october following
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day two thousand and one. one year later binney submitted a complaint to the u.s. defense department for wasting state funds the complaint was examined but had no effect the patriot bill binney became a combative whistleblower a role model for many today. this and this is his rantings here. in texas you know the fifty. illini represents the patches the size that you. like two hundred and you said this integrity is pretty c. thank you. this is yours and so this is. the worse of you. so thank you go. thank you i knew
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every major leader in this a general hayden personally and i have to say that i have met more people with true will take pretty character since i left. opted out of the system his colleague thomas drake fought against the violation of civil rights from within the n.s.a. . my new for the moment i stood up to my own supervisor and i went to her and said what are we doing violating the prime directive to cannot spy on americans our war. i confronted my boss i go to the oed the officer carol so i confront him. and then he says don't ask any more questions. now you're faced with a dilemma i didn't give the order i'm not the one that was implementing the survey of the master valence program the digital dragnet what do you do i chose to blow
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the whistle. but how do you do that knowing there's a master valence program and knowing the n.s.a. was targeting targeting journalists. i made arrangements in encrypted form to communicate. with this reporter. then i made a decision that i would meet the reporter that was in february of two thousand and seven. the journalist subsequently published a number of articles about the waste and mismanagement of the n.s.a. the repercussions were enormous but the n.s.a.
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let the attacks come to nothing as drake did not prove the central part of his criticism with documents. this tactic suddenly stopped working in two thousand and thirteen. edward snowden's material that stuff he took out made it absolutely impossible for them to deny what they were doing because it simply laid out in their terms on their slides what they were doing and it was impossible for them to deny it. i don't think mr snowden was a patriot. the way in which these disclosures happened have been. have been damaging to be united states and damaging to our intelligence capabilities. people ask if it is the patriot or traitor you know that's the headline in all these things edward snowden patriot drives me nuts the very thought that people could regard it was a traitor we will likely. face is the cost in human lives
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tomorrow's battlefield in some in some some place where where we will put our military forces. when we ask them to go into harm's way and i think that's that's the greatest cost that we face with the disclosures that have been presented so far . was the one person. who did what he absolutely should have done how many people should have done what you did. what. is it. true that. tension for tomorrow she. being a patriot doesn't. you know obedience to authority. putting aside your obligations to your people to your country for the benefit of your government because the. it isn't.
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until the revelations by edward snowden the warnings of intelligence agency critics were always shrugged off as speculation only after he had published all the original documents was there proof and concrete evidence provided for the first time. documents all the difference it is more risky to do that it also makes all the difference in terms of political effect. and i gave the documents less than one percent of the documents have been published. that's terrible. it's a terrible thing those documents do not belong. to a journalist they do not belong to him but so they do not belong to the national security agency they belong to history they are part of something that humanity has gone through every single one of us have been has been
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a victim of the national security agency spying all human beings who use the internet are victims of it and the victims deserve to know what has happened to them. i think the opportunity is in producing a very broad global outrage about what has happened in every country and informing all the victims of that surveillance about what is actually happening to them and releasing off documents so that all the technical industries. hackers and computer programmers can go over and over governments can work out how to protect those. julia sun hacker and journalist was interested in computer
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programming from an early age as a teenager he had already happened to foreign data systems and military networks later he studied physics and mathematics in melbourne in two thousand and six he founded the whistle blowing web site wiki leaks which publishes secret documents of governments intelligence agencies and corporations kind of ellsberg was an insider and was an insider. would say that i was never in side up. i was. inside. you know tree and intelligence and big companies. as a computer hacker and later as an alum an a-list analyzing them material. so i had a cane sense for what they were about that i never had the view that one should work for these organizations. the people who were in the u.s. national security system it was like their own drug. drug but that made them
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powerful because they were a group that had a lot of power and that system has a way of talking about how the world works and how the united states empire is a good thing you can take a long time towards that drug out of the system don't knows but it is nearly entirely work that out of his system but the more recent whistle blows they still have perhaps some way to go. the only difference i hear from a charge is i think the only difference is i think that he probably believes more in the value of total truth or near total transparency than i do. the two thousand mile trip across europe seems impossible. as the boat comes root
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influenced the course of history beginning with the giants of the struggle for civil rights. just as it was over a variable to oppress the favor of a martin luther king and continue to keep the negroes if that's what you mean by that about malcolm x. and martin luther king face to face. hello i'm barbara starr in london these are the top stories on al-jazeera rivaled meetings have taken place to address stability in the middle east in sochi russia president hosted his turkish and the iranian counterparts for talks on the war in syria iran's president hassan rouhani said that he backs a push to clear syria's adlib region of fighters from. formerly known as the nose
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or front but to me of course it is a key ally of president assad and says he's ready to drive the fighters out of it meanwhile the u.s. has urged the sixteen nations attending a conference in poland to further isolate iran washington use the warsaw meeting to put pressure on those countries to follow its lead ice president mike pence it out at some of america's traditional allies singling out the european countries standing by the iranian nuclear deal the time has come for european partners to stand with us and the iranian people. to stand with our allies and friends in the region. the time has come for our european partners to withdraw from the around nuclear deal and join with us as we bring the economic and diplomatic pressure necessary to give the iranian people region and the world the peace security and freedom they deserve at least thirty nine people have been killed in the worst
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attack on indian forces in kashmir since two thousand and two a car laden with explosives slammed into a military convoy on a heavily guarded highway in indian administered kashmir. in the last half hour republican senate leader mitch mcconnell says president trump has indicated he will sign a border security deal and the clear an emergency at the border to prevent another government shutdown congress is expected to vote on the bipartisan accord soon ahead of friday's that line. another defeat the prime minister. government's approach to it. by. two hundred fifty eight against continuing to plan to seek changes. a proposal from the opposition labor party which would have forced the government to give parliament. or a debate on the next steps by the end of the.
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and wiki leaks highly explosive documents can still be published anonymously that otherwise would be withheld through nondisclosure or censorship. according to wiki leaks all documents were checked for authenticity one major aim is to force corporations and intelligence agencies to abide to more transparency and social responsibility to shed light on their well kept secrets which cover up illegal and immoral behavior. to get on here as in front of if. a fun movie was dominant. on. somebody's kind of dog in afghanistan also afghanistan there's just as
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a rhetorical counterattack just like something out of. it is to say no no no you do that. and. unfortunately the us press is sort of. so. that pretty prince this nonsense so where she needs reveals very concretely the string accurate documentation of the us is our own records shows that it was involved in one way or another in the deaths of more than one hundred twenty thousand people in iraq and afghanistan between two thousand and four and two thousand and ten. and the u.s. government's response is maybe hypothetically as a result of this release of this material some afghan family or u.s. soldier. could face risks that's the standard accusation or like what tom drake did
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threaten military lives exposing corruption fraud waste and abuse doesn't threaten military lives continuing them threatens military lives the end result as a force for good last year on the earth that a single person had been harmed as a result of publications. suns demand the protection of individual privacy on the one hand and on the other radical transparency of governments and corporations but one of the motives of whistleblowers why do intelligence insiders step forward into the light risking their careers their lives to expose the wrongdoings of those in power. is there
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a common name a collective mission of this broad alliance and wild mix of patriotic exceeded service agents and arctic hackers cyberpunks and intellectual publicists. a common theme with among all of us is that we support human rights and that we support the public's right to know information and especially when it threatens the public or threatens the democracy or freedom of individuals i mean that's the kind of common theme that goes through all of it i think but it's a lonely act that you come it as one person but i was convicted by the truth of what i knew so i made a conscious choice to yes violate a nondisclosure agreement and we also took the oath to protect and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic so that means even our government if it's violating the constitution so we have we have the responsibility
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to stand up against that it's the moral agency you're confronted by activity that demands a response. and you're in a pious where you have access to information you have access your eye witness such an eyewitness or you or you were brought into awareness. especially when you've got someone have a specific going to see it. when he's been off their mind i'm just mundus contest is gonna need to advance initiative and association with events on this. then. that have tons of my fondest bits in them but out of tons of. buses i'm done on site this does. have an advantage. so all of sudden bosses would need someone to fuck. off and mention the fed it isn't me. this isn't this
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is going for. the. high profile leaks we fun fun fun mending friends no odin. but it does fun but it's kind not when it's. this absolute movement and i know steve music will have always just i mean this to call these people super heroes is not so good because it's. little they get it i admire that but they're not me i'm not a superhero who thinks of themselves as a superhero on me not you know we're sixteen year old. dreamer. who gets your excuse for not doing it it doesn't take a shipper here and these people know that these people were going to turn to. michael in the fog it was no wouldn't it is the name go on to a. few months to a month on clothes and most of whom this is. often install the.
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sign in if it becomes act you know who become to be annoying because of us and we could put in a can become tin of the on the inside thing was going with this all the. to push it's own somebody khana is presumed to do is of interest because that's all in all though it's because in the in the chilis it was snowden intended on the at least seem to even. seem to even want to seem to. him this is. what i see when was it was no didn't and it's not in this i'm getting seen him on the snowden what is this the monthly julian that is posted to be interesting that you know many come in to talk to top of the top office about not internet. months and that. is not tradition have to consequence and vince. then gets to i dunno if someone does it. up this with the best of
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a dozen slips there are many identity for. us to testify to peeking but some of them that's most in the pledge attention that doesn't mean we have a new mindset to most this tool. each democracy punch. each country whether it's going to be democratic or not knowing every she is going to private lives of all of their citizens to religious leaders through journalists who are judges and they're ordinary people who could be turned into informants. with those people knowing almost nothing about the good of
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the good will be or create that should go to and the people being transparent you guys this is the most ridiculous i've ever seen you know you fire everybody in the country and everybody in a war or you're not an invalid. and so your secret. if you don't have previously in your communications you can't guarantee they can hold a telephone conversation or rational mellow view stuff from the internet or read books once that is known to the authorities and it can even begin to self censor what you say and what you read. and. is a former agent of the british national intelligence agency m i five. even going to withdraw a little bit feel normal life because you're told you can't mention your being a christian by five and that means that people tend to focus much more on their life within and i thought i'd say begin to socialize a lot more with other people there because you can talk that stuff. and also you
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end up mainly in the relationships with your fellow intelligence officer this is how i met my former partner and colleague david shayler. when schiller made the illegal practices of the intelligence service public and supported him in becoming a whistleblower. in one nine hundred ninety seven shortly before the publication of the secret documents the couple flew to france. they went underground for a year and subsequently lived in paris for to use in two thousand they returned to london or went to prison. was spared since then she fights for government accountability and campaigns for the rights of whistleblowers when david shayler and i ended up going on the run after the whistle on a series of crimes when i thought. we were very conscious of exactly how they could be told here celeste it is so where every week. thought well the telephone might be compromised the computer would become pleased there might be microphones in where
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we were living there might be video cameras recording what we did and also people might be turned to vote against us so there are all these different techniques that they can use and this is way back in the ninety's and love year so even at that point when we were on the run from ever cross europe we used the only sure fire way that we need to communicate to each other securely which was to put a piece of glass or ceramic on a surface and put one sheet of paper on it and then you cover it so that nothing can read what you write in the paper you don't say anything you just write what you want on the piece of paper and then he will allow the other person to eat that message so there is no order there can be no video and there could be no in print under that one piece of paper then of course you have to get rid of that piece of paper so you have to burn it up pulverised the ashes and the cost it the wins. to actually start the new because we know that our computers are telephones all of
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that can be compromised the video can be switched on the audio can be switched on mostly they can log what we write on the keyboard they can even and this comes from the snowden disclosures they can even use my queries apparently to beam into the screen and read what you're typing. we live in a digital world where little remains unseen turning privacy into another luxury good. bleak science fiction visions of a powerful surveillance apparatus with seemingly endless technical possibilities. now only seems a question of time how does this change our behavior if every move we make every
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word we say is recorded a nationalized which roles will we have to play and whose writing script. having lived with that sense in demick surveillance i can tell you it's a corrosive to human spirit so once you lose that sense privacy and you start to self censor you start to be an effective and fully integrated system of that country supremacy in my view is the last defense against a slide towards a police state or to tell us how innocent if you let go of your rights from moment you've lost them for a lifetime and that's why this matters is because it happened and we didn't know me or told.
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you say you have nothing to hide see of nothing to worry about i have nothing to fear you'll hear all the language ok fine church heard your individual or her house yes well just give your keys your car or rent a car or other road of the city yes you have your purpose do you use of google eulogy you know if. you have facebook or given all your passwords you have a medical records trudeau's over to me to oh by the way all those bank accounts and all phone records you're just given to me for safe keeping you can have independent courts can you have an independent critch none of the n.s.a. now has the potential to know every source of every journalist of every story. following the e-mail. following the people with their g.p.s. with their rifles. this is. the op this year here and.
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talk to me at the meeting master general is not about. it's not about surrendering me it's about surveillance us. it's about watching the company for everybody in the country and on a global scale. in harsh contrast to the recently emerged facts great public outcry has not yet been heard. now why don't people care in the u.k. it's a very easy answer partly it's cultural because he's still in love with james bond
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and political leaders immediately came out in defense of the intelligence agencies saying we know what they do they follow the law everyone go back to sleep don't worry so the train you sit in the u.k. and it wasn't i think in as i said a usa brazil and germany but it's amazing how quickly people forget or in this and this thousand i think. the next move is presented in front of this nation and something kind of round of. me in bushland. t.v. nixon burger. king and it.
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when it became known in autumn two thousand and thirteen that the private cell phone of german chancellor angela merkel was tapped by the n.s.a. the public outcry in germany was initially large until then the german american friendship had been close and germany believed to be an equal partner the united states. the friend spine and friends of course they do everybody does this i mean we caught the israelis spying on us several times what did that do to our relationship but not really anything because we know everybody does that ok if you're a leader of a country in the world you're a target everybody wants to know what you're thinking so you are a target friends and foes everybody's looking to see or trying to find out what you're thinking universally true i mean that's that's why diplomacy was started right back and thousands of years ago so so i mean it's nothing new chancellor merkel when she found out as to her private phone was being tapped i mean she
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should have done that understood that from the beginning i mean or and her security should have told her that from the beginning and given her some protection since all the leaders understood it the fact that it's exposed you have to be a object maybe publicly but in reality afterward you the relationship is too important to jeopardize just for a simple thing that you already knew was happening. as you have anything i know of this dimension. this into this year that are in different states and that would be key leaks it's the n.s.a. affair the. t.v. it's own was all ha's intrusive. kind on the mukesh guides on what's in the cinema before google now to only give us a visit that's only part my.
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problem in relation to bulk surveillance is exactly the same as the problem of global warming second i say it's not a bit over fact here right now individually why is global warming interested in your and why is an essay interesting you quote a warning affects everyone because in general changing things folks violence affects everyone because it leads to a general change in the nature of so isolation while warming is invisible.
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impenetrable you're only trying to glimpse maybe today was a bit harder i don't know coincidence or. similarly massive surveillance is invisible it's conducted at these points that connect continents together or by his eyes taking its fangs into google. and these are extremely physical and complex technologies that everyone except specialists does not understand specialists understand that and saying everyone else my god can you see what's happening through a relation to greenhouse gas as climate scientists understand it saying my god can you see what's happening in the case of. climate science well there's a counter lobby which is the fossil fuel companies and all those profiting from that in the case of boxer violence there's the surveillance industry and intelligence agencies and so on and all those who are sucking down that information and profit from it and inform all the other direction so very similar. the fear of
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terrorist attacks makes the mass surveillance a necessary evil for many the much quoted if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear after legitimizes the snooping of covert agencies yet many are unaware of the actual extent of the surveillance. basically a big program which provides the raw data and then the analyze it so it can be subjected to rules written. or. it says everything do. is being analyzed it's being weighed it's being measured. but the intelligence services are not the only ones monitoring communications and processing massive data. also pride. corporations like google amazon
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facebook and apple collect millions of pieces of information about us to analyze and monetize. that's a click is this us or that's not on sacked that i am person. sent there or stuff this i don't see once there and it's just there are nine v.h.f. and a slick not to sit there for stuff to thank us and let us all skip ited to be honest . we don't really know what exactly happens with our own digital trails our data is transferred invisibly to huge data centers. sublimating into a complex new identity creating our digital self.
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smartphones capture a communication behavior along when where and with whom we talk the data we create assembling our digital self is also of interest as a juicy source of information for the intelligence community. i don't do those clueless life. and it's not just i phones that's all it's life it's i mean most small things all these days. they were tapping the fiber lines between the google servers yet. they didn't even know this is going on . i had a lot of. surveillance and also the trace had to as a light it came out it was spying on us and the national security agency it was asserted there was a risk plane coming to the edge of the city to apply for asylum.
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i have noticed a disappointingly dry in northern queensland and i was been flooded in the last three or four weeks but it's still wet season it should rain every day and it isn't really doing that most of the action is nice circulation of clouds up of of and beyond in fiji so whilst it is dry it's also quite warm can shouldn't be thirty three thirty five degrees and has been recently should be near thirty one a variation in the tropics that is quite notable is warm for the south but no longer hot near the city mark in sydney cambra and brisbane and is warming up in adelaide at twenty nine after a great disappointment in the teens recently hotter still in percy's a humid heat as well twenty nine to thirty one degrees come saturday with a daily shower a rare event that i sit around in queens and maybe in bits in new south wales mostly though it is turned into quite summer which is a nice change after site similarly for north island of new zealand it's ok but this cold front is going towards the south island there is some rain on bodies across
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a funding bill to avert another government shutdown and the clear an emergency to fund his border war iran russia and turkey carve out syria after the u.s. withdrawals meanwhile in warsaw the u.s. steps up its efforts to isolate iran and indian forces suffered their deadliest attack in kashmir in seventeen years as a car bomb targeting a military convoy kills at least forty four people. in sports history at the world ski championships in sweden a survivor winning the joint small and playing our country's first ever world title . the white house says president will sign a compromise border security deal to avoid another government shutdown he also the clear a national emergency to secure the funds for his border wall congress is expected
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to vote on the bipartisan accord definitely ahead of friday's that line the deal does not provide the full amount of funds that president trump has been demanding for his wall well the white house speaker the house speaker rather nancy pelosi gave her reaction in the last twenty minutes we will review our options were prepared to respond appropriately to it i know the republicans had some an ease about it no matter what they say because if the president can declare an emergency on something that he has created as an emergency it is illusion that he wants to convey just think of what a president with different values can present to the american people want to talk about a national emergency let's talk about today the one year anniversary. of another manifestation of the epidemic of gun violence in america that's a national emergency why don't you declare that emergency mr president i wish you would let rejoins us live now from washington d.c.
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strong words unsurprisingly of course from nancy pelosi they're just explain to us what it actually means with this announcement actually means. well the president has access to a contingency fund in the pentagon he can declare a national emergency and then get access to those funds there are about fifty eight different national emergencies that are still in operation so this isn't terribly unusual what's unusual is the way he's doing it he's trying to achieve something that he was not able to achieve in congress and it will probably end up in court because members of congress including nancy pelosi will likely challenge this national emergency border crossings are actually at about a forty year low here in the united states and you just heard nancy pelosi talking about other emergencies and in that case she was talking about gun control so the president is trying to achieve something he could not achieve in congress he'll be able to access that contingency fund but then he will likely face
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a court challenge so there will be a battle between the democrats and the president and it also is a slippery slope republicans have warned him not to do this and the reason is just as nancy pelosi was talking about the democrats could then once there is a democratic president they could declare gun control a national crisis they could declare climate change a national crisis and so they're very worried about the precedent that this is setting with the president is pushing forward even as he signs a bill that does not give him the funding for that wall that he wants he originally asked for five point seven billion dollars for an actual wall what he's getting is one point three seven five billion dollars for some fencing that will cover about fifty five miles of the two thousand mile wall that he wants to build a so i mean it's obvious that democrats would be against it and as we've heard some republicans probably are as well so in light of all of that why is he doing it is
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it just a face saving exercise. the president campaigned on building that wall never mind that he also campaigned on mexico paying for it but this is something he really wants to achieve for his base if he is to keep those angry voters who really want to move off the wall with him he's got to at least show that he's made an effort so even if he doesn't succeed at getting that wall he really wants to show that he has done everything he can and you can see that he's actually throwing out president president that is alarming republicans in order to do that his popularity remains somewhere between thirty seven and forty one percent depending on the poll and those are the voters that he's speaking to and he thinking about the twenty twenty alexion when he's doing that so this is a promise one he really wants to keep and this is really the only shot right now with democrats controlling the house of representatives that he has to fulfill that promise i suppose at least this avoids another government shutdown or extension of
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the previous one which would have been harmful for the country and i guess presumably for his ratings as well. that's right and there was no way he was going to get that funding in this particular bill and he was he did not have the stomach to shut down the government again over this his popularity took a severe hit republicans popularity took a hit and democrats did not want this to happen again so this is a way and he warned that if we go this might happen this is a way for him to circumvent shutting down the government but if this gets blocked in the courts we may see another challenge toward that government funding because he would try probably to stick that funding and again we'll have to wait and see what exactly happens and this could be a drawn out process john hendren with the latest on that process from washington thank you. meanwhile the u.s. senate has confirmed william barr as the new attorney general bringing the lawyer
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back to the post the previously held the more than twenty five years ago the new head of the u.s. justice department will be in charge of overseeing special counsel robert mueller is long running inquiry into whether president on trump's two thousand and sixteen campaign colluded with russia the senate voted largely along party lines are could be sworn into the post before the end of the week. and the former deputy director of the f.b.i. is really revealed is that in may two thousand and seventeen top u.s. justice department officials discussed whether to recruit cabinet members to invoke the twenty fifth amendment to remove president tom from office under mccabe says the move was considered because he and colleagues were so alarmed by the president's decision to fire james komi who was of course f.b.i. director at the time can really help get reports. it's the first time anyone working on the investigation into u.s. president donald trump's alleged campaign ties to russia has publicly stated there
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were discussions on whether he should be removed from office the work of the men and women of the f.b.i. andrew mccabe was the deputy director of the f.b.i. and was fired from his job last march for misconduct the white house denied any involvement in the decision even though trump has repeatedly claimed mccabe was out to get him i was speaking to the man who had just run for the presidency and a cheat and won the election for the presidency and who might have done so. with the aid of the government of russia it is first interview mccabe says the discussions over trump's removal came up just after trump fired f.b.i. director james comey in may twenty seventeen for his involvement in the russia investigation i was very concerned that i was able to put the russia case on absolutely solid ground in an indelible fashion that war i removed quickly
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reassigned or fired but the case could not be closed or vanish in the night without a trace mccain says there were conversations about possibly removing under the twenty fifth amendment of the us constitution he also confirms deputy attorney general rod rosenstein had offered to wear a wire around the president but their claims the justice department disputed on thursday calling mccabe's recollections inaccurate and factually incorrect mccabe's public statements have been braves trump who lashed out on twitter writing disgraced f.b.i. acting director andrew mackay pretends to be a poor little angel would in fact he was a big part of the crooked hillary scandal and the russia hoax a puppet for a leak in james komi mccain's account comes as the f.b.i. investigation led by special counsel robert mueller continues ridiculous partisan
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investigations trump has repeatedly criticized the probe into whether russia meddled in the twenty six thousand election calling it a witch hunt if there is going to be peace and legislation there cannot be war and investigation a senate committee is reportedly wrapping up its own russia probe a report this week said they've uncovered no direct evidence of a conspiracy between trump's campaign and the kremlin kimberly held at al-jazeera washington. two rival meetings of wrapped up both of them addressing instability in the middle east in sochi russia president hosted his turkish and the iranian counterparts for talks on how to end the war in syria and crucially what comes next meanwhile in poland the us stepped up its efforts to isolate iran at a conference attended by sixty nations israel's prime minister was the only foreign head of state to attend with many european countries sending low level
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representatives well let's start with the summers in salt she between three countries vying to be the key foreign players in syria once the u.s. leaves zain holder reports from tehran. the so-called guarantors of the syrian peace process the president of russia iran and turkey are partners in the astronaut negotiating framework the leaders met to find consensus on how to carve up syrian territory following the planned u.s. withdrawal of american troops from an area under the control of the kurdish group the y p g it was clear even before these sorts began that they didn't agree russia and iran told turkey that the syrian government should we gain control of north east syria once u.s. troops leave at the end he planned to set up a safe zone in syria along its borders would need the consent of president bashar assad's government the turkish government's concerns should be taken into consideration we believe cooperation with the legal government of syria and
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deployment of syrian soldiers alongside international borders is going to be more sustainable iran continues to be willing a long side russian friends to play its role in order to ensure friendship between syria and turkey turkey's president or the guard once a close friend of the syrian president has been a staunch supporter of the opposition since the uprising began in two thousand and eleven or to god recently acknowledged that there have been low level contacts between turkey's and syria's intelligence agencies the turkish government wants a safe zone to push the u.s. the allied kurdish armed group the wipe from its border it considers the group a terrorist organization and a threat to its national security iran and russia are acknowledging.
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