improve the relationship between the poor sister then the police it could be a lot of citizens in this case and with stones trying to outdo with them trying to come them that they should join the ranks of the engines. it is and i haven't heard of it and i haven't so even though even so probably there's a hurling book with a quick cackle i know that in sea bass the chair days to prove that for example today the fact that it could be seen also in the forces of good external manipulation i think this put it over to true by the average algerian doesn't appointments are too good all to restore that maze that the rest of the world has them so they really wanted to give major part of the major people of a major political which are people that is able to control its demands for change so one day about this energy that she is describing why are some algerians not afraid anymore. i don't think my dreams were afraid of not only

just government i think a serious war most dangerous war probably traumatized by the memory from a civil war and the ninety's. this is why one of the main themes of these protests has been the fact that they are. they are saying to the government that they want change they want they want they are challenging the the system they want to participate in public life in political life but they are saying it is a difficult choice and they don't want to deal. with the situation to to go wrong i don't think people have been afraid and i think people just didn't want things to go like they did in the other countries and. do you see any similarities between what is happening now in algeria and some of the arab spring countries. i think one of the similarities is the involvement like i said of deep state.

did state is looking for a static of power and the new generation of young people who have different aspirations and needs and they want to change in the most peaceful way this is also to say that for every country have their own way of doing things and to pick their fights i think in algeria this time they there are now no longer afraid because they think that is going to win and i would not be surprised if both africa step down in the next few days of few weeks and the second thing what is very important is when there are some changes in the intelligence and in the military we have seen for example but if america haven't changed many many people in the in the secret service and intelligence as well as it in military and those people have a grievances and i think there are join in or support sane people claims we need to

understand that libya more it's similar to other countries as well. amelle who are new followers mentioned as a couple of times who are these these people that are who is really running the country who is it that has decided that. needs to run again and even if he is incapacitated and if. whoever these people are want to maintain power so much why haven't they picked a successor to have avoided all of this i think is the lack of can do so i conclude that swedes really lead to the nature of the deep nature of the region self ninety nine nine when the three o'clock going to blow to the to come back to put it in power at the idea was to make the international community forgets about war crimes committed by g. army and the secret services so they gave the image of a single president and and the steadman see it as good and the credibility of this

estate will go depleted to the figure of the trickle that it was all because that they won't be able to find a way out so that nobody will be able to replace them but i believe now that much for the question i think that there's no doubt that that she won't run again there really question is. if the algerian people really to accept make transitions denies from the top and country from the top has to has been to play say that if you said you thought of you had to make transitions take chum's issues our last kind of transition family come traditionally controlled from the top so the idea now is not she talk about this economy more it's really about what are they going to do next and the girl link to the old server to the people another come today from that only ranks that will be it has been that time tipples ability. to say is over the real goal of politics i'm not sure that i'll jump people we accept that they are

very conscious about this. what about she she makes a good point that together may end up being somebody else replacing it a flake a bit at the core it may still all be business as usual. does the army being having so much power play a role in this i mean at one point at what point will the army ever have pulled back a little i think it has to do with how much people are willing to say of course all of the people are willing to stabilized i've seen the protests have been up into. most people and i'm not just demanding an end or. another just that doesn't against the does it for elections they want to change the regime it was a new political. oh. i don't think i don't know if

the army will stay out of what's coming next but i would have started i'm not but. i would say that. if b.p. maintained this the same pressure of a bit but then this past week i think the army. will have to. think rethink its position a new fall if. this point if people do maintain this pressure or if the pressure even escalates how do you anticipate the army responding to that. first of all i would like to say that the jury people have wisdom have patience and have experience and i think they're going to negotiate every step of the time now to have been clear that they want to the president a bit of a down the reaction of the army units that a lot of questions about the position of the army. especially after the

reconstruction of the army and the changes that occurred in the time of but from what i would the think is that they will give a concession in my opinion of the support of the step down of but for now the question is later on how do future political future of geria will be negotiated and who would be included in that negotiation if that's exactly what was exactly going to be my question is who is right now the leader of what is happening who is the person to to push for these changes i mean obviously there are mass protests but is there a single voice. i don't think it's yet organized the well the this protest yet there are things i believe that behind the scenes and it must be some kind of support behind the scenes i see the algerian people are confident to win this this time and they're confident that there will be a step down. i think my assumption is that those people

who have been. laid off from the. intelligence and the army could be supporting people's claims but until now the protests are not organized yet strong and. amelle what what role do other countries play in this obviously there's a lot of countries that have an interest in what happens in algeria there are countries i'm sure that are concerned that what happens in algeria might spill over into other countries as we've seen with libya and some of their other neighbors what role do you see other countries playing in trying to manage what is happening in algiers algeria. yes sure i would just like to make a point just before answering that question on the deluded sure i think it's not a problem for the army that i think it's not a real problem for the army and it's a question of this is that there's no leadership that has been oppressing actually

independent factors that have been trying and opposition parties that have been trying to. protect the wave has to say not sure of the protest and should join in the protest and to give some leader to emerge as individual figures from the protests it's also the poaching of people darling and there's a good scientists who have to be the object people to take a breath and then they are hoping that they will become back home that we live again back home after having taken the breast of freedom and the most ration not the real question is about the real ness of the algerian she accepts the same people to. come she want to go on to live the same institutions not from fans from institutions so that will be an important point of this to see the future too on the south to a concert a question of external actions i think this is the sign. there's have to be up space that's really the us and it is you are totally lost and people disconnected

from the people all the. way those still not would not have become people. demand for chance well they are been taking the issues totally to the question of anti terrorism the solstice because while georgia and me gratian poses i mean that's not absolutely not what is discussing children so if they want to be in line with the chance of going to take place in the country in the region they will have to come to connect with the people directly and to discus and maybe to cooperate on the kind of a children's institution but absolutely large to fully disclose to the elites how they have been doing for the souls of our. might some of the other. other other candidates that could. that could benefit from what is happening right now with with the protesters on wall i think the point of the

protests is the. election that there are no real elections elections are not transparent. with the clintons bid for reelection was interrupted and directed at the fact that there are four of the physical so with that are there are serious candidates is not is not really important right now if the if the regime decides to change course there are probably will be change can be put into account under the election might be postponed but i understand you so what you're saying you're saying it's not even necessarily about another specific candidate it's just about this particular moment of saying it cannot be him anymore right exactly or a. new fall are you concerned that this could spiral.

into any type of chaos or spiral out of control if these protesters are determined not to back down. i think conflict thoughts would sometimes in the small details and the small details can take the conflict either to a new set of cooperation or to violence i am a little bit concerned because there is a very thin line between the fantasy of stability that is offered by autocratic regime and the problems of regime change. that fine line the way it will be negotiated very important and if not all the groups who have been feeling marginalized or not heard for so many years are not included i fear that it might lead to some kind of violence and i hope that it's not going to get to that that's a great point you made a male he's basically saying there's always this push pull between stability and

democracy even though they're not necessarily mutually exclusive often people play on it to make it seem like they are they think that that is what has been at play is that people have wanted stability so they put off warning democracy but what is to build they actually gotten them. i should say i think we should not be mistaken algerians as too willing to get at it and then the picking for evolution and if we have millions of people industry does that tweaks a lot of people have been afraid to join the protest so i think the liberals what are the stakes let's that lead to that things have them out and about the country richie and the repetition of the protest the this comes the do the wave put this is will be able to cope with the protests and to make themselves and also to have older people join even not to look cool evil ses look a little will be a very crucial for the next week's gender focus and to organize themselves and of course we have seen them to mention asia which is trickles of lead to success of

the rob spring we won't get rid of get rid of the old elites so eventually but that's not the most simple to look at both of us to have an agreement on the transparency of this institutions and the country and shield the of the of the of the democratic process i mean as i as the my colleagues see stated they don't want another their actions with the same kind of a the launch competition and that's when the magadan able to have transparent elections and that's not the priority right now all right i'm onto you you sound if i retire if i'm correct it sounds you sound very confident sound very confident that beautifully good will in fact not stand for for a fifth term but changes did i get that right was that your assessment. i don't know actually i don't know what they were. but they did a lot of. what i mean the pressure is. only the first

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