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most new zealanders would probably think well we are one of most peaceful countries on earth and that this doesn't happen in new zealand and martin ms rice rations commissioner is a watch new zealand tried really hard to get new zealand has to understand that she this happens in our country you know that most marginalized and vulnerable groups face abuse and discrimination every day you know and i think. you know i haven't made a muslim woman new zealand who hasn't suffered some form of abuse and discrimination you know and we might think that that's. it and the signs were there that it was building you know in recently is these things have increased and in the full people in the government to actually take them seriously and i think that's what's happened as people would actually taking these threats seriously you know it also happens to our jewish community as well people seeing the rise of white supremacy hatreds being normalized everywhere in the world and what we're seeing now is
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a rise in people feeling validated to do so you know for what's happening all around the world and that has now creeped not crept into our country it's been made very very very visible so this require as real real real leadership from the very top you know i have been instrumental in bringing the voice of a muslim community to the leaders of our country to those in senior officials and sadly today what we've seen is that those voices have been ignored so all they have asked for is for help they've asked for results is both human and financial to actually build stronger communities and that's one of the pillars of countering violent extremism is at the grassroots these communities know the issues that face and that they also have the solutions it's not for us to tell them what to do it's for us to actually give them support to be able to do it it wouldn't or possibly wouldn't have prevented what has happened today but that's part and passage of what we need to do going forward it's really important that we continue to do what we
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did yesterday and the day before that and the day before that is to call out white when in we we see it to be brave to actually understand now that this happens even peaceful or new zealand racism has happened for years ask any modern new zealand. time for short break you're not a zero when we come back more information emerges about last weekend's ethiopian airlines crash. in the philippines becomes the latest conference to withdraw from the international criminal court we'll tell you why or in those days. hello there we're seeing a handful of showers over the southeastern parts of china at the moment that's the way we things are going to stay as we head through the next couple of days so here they are stretching up towards the future province and then just pushing their way further northwards to was the hunan province there as we head through the day on tuesday towards the south it's getting warmer for us in hong kong with
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a maximum temperature of twenty seven degrees but a bit further towards the south and for a same positive in dinies air is still very messy at the moment lots of showers around and some of them very very heavy watch out as well for this spiraling area of trout to the east of the philippines the developing system is running its way towards the west africa some of us in the southern parts of the philippines we're going to see that wet weather and the pretty strong winds as well towards the west and force in india we've seen quite a few showers you see them head just making their way up towards nepal and into parts of bangladesh that's where we'll see them as we head through the day all monday a few outbreaks of heavy a showers heya that will gradually fizzle out though as we head through monday and into tuesday instead we're going to watch this next system working its way across the northern pulse old india through pakistan and into afghanistan i think afghanistan will see some of the worst of the weather from this a lot of snow doesn't like it will cause a fair amount of disruption and then it'll work its way up into the himalayas.
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a quick amount of top stories here on al-jazeera new zealand's government is set to tighten gun laws in the wake of friday's shooting of two mosques that killed fifty people the cabinet will consider banning private ownership of semiautomatic weapons and buying back guns. relatives of those killed after paring funerals of their loved ones the prime minister says all bodies of the fifty fittings are expected to be returned to the families by wednesday. now the new york times are revealing more details about the killing of a saudi john. says the murder in the saudi consulate in istanbul last october was part of a wider campaign authorized by crown prince mohammed bin saddam on the report cites u.s. officials with access to classified intelligence documents mike hanna has more from washington d.c. . the new york times a reveals that in two thousand and seventeen a body calling itself the saudi rapid intervention group was formed now this was at about the time that the mohammed bin solomon was elevated to the position of crown
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prince since then since the newspaper this group has carried out a number of operations in neighboring countries and further afield including the force all repatriation of saudi dissidents of back to riyadh and other cities in saudi arabia now the new york times does not name the intelligence sources that use the cia itself has declined to comment however it does name some of the individuals involved in this group it says that the group is headed by sadal cult tiny a close associate of the crown prince now president has insisted that the whole affair of the murder of jamal khashoggi in his view is over he says that he is intent on continuing to conduct business with saudi arabia and to conduct business with the crown prince himself congress has been increasingly angry about this position demanding that president trump continue to investigate jamal khashoggi is
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murder and also to impose sanctions against those who are held accountable this president trump has refused to do the latest reports it may well be brushed away by the president but will not be brushed off by congress which is likely to use this as further ammunition to continue to put pressure on the president to take some form of action for the murder of jamal khashoggi which this report indicates was not an isolated incident but part of a widespread campaign. israeli army has raided areas in the occupied west bank after an israeli soldier was killed the military says a palestinian stopped the soldier took his weapon and fired at civilians nearby then fled the scene it happened outside the illegal israeli arielle settlement which is south of nablus are a force that has more from west to islam. the israeli military has set out the sequence of events that it says took place in the occupied west bank on sunday
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morning it says at around nine forty five at the ariel interchange southwest of the city of nablus and a palestinian man approached a soldier stabbed that soldier and took his weapon before firing on nearby vehicles that soldier one thousand years old israeli army says was killed in that attack israeli civilian in one of those vehicles was also shot and seriously wounded israeli media saying he was he is a forty seven year old man a resident of one of the illegal israeli settlements in the occupied west bank another vehicle which was abandoned was then apparently taken by this individual drove it southwest and fired on a bus stop where another israeli soldier was wounded that vehicle then discovered in or near the city the village of burkean palestinian village of booking further southwest that became the center of a pretty major israeli military operation as houses were searched and the focus of this search was undertaken there were reports in the palestinian media as well
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that there was an exchange of gunfire at one stage there this military operation extended well beyond that village though checkpoints were set up illegal settlements were closed down for some time as were some other palestinian villages the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has said that the perpetrator or perpetrators of this attack will be captured in the justice will be brought to them there have been celebrating the events that have taken place in gaza where hamas and islamic jihad have both welcomed the news of this attack there also be tensions that erupted elsewhere in the occupied west bank with settlers stoning palestinian vehicles and homes currently this major military operation is still ongoing israel supreme court has banned the leader of a far right party from running in next month's election and says mikhail barry of the jewish power party incited racism against palestinians and says never turns
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a ruling by israel's election committee the court also reinstated israeli palestinian parties which had been disqualified. ethiopia's transport minister says there are clear similarities between last weekend's ethiopian airlines plane crash and the line a disaster in the nation last october but involved boeing seven three seven months atack robbed meanwhile a mass funeral service has been held for some of the victims of last sunday's crash . thousands of mourners led a procession through the streets of anything open as capital addis ababa accompanied seventeen m. two caskets draped in the national flag. relatives of the passengers and crew have been given bags of earth from the crash site instead of remains because the d.n.a. identification process to take up to six months of the dough has more from ethiopia . grieving families of some of the one hundred fifty seven victims of ethiopian airlines flight three year old to. mourn the loss of their loved ones.
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arriving at this field where remnants of the ally and allies true not around brings it all home for them. airline officials say they haven't found even a single body intact just body parts which would make that id process took awhile. ethiopian airlines didn't give us anything they told us to wait until thursday we waited and thursday came they are now saying they couldn't find anything i wish they told us that they found nothing in the first place this is major grief heavy we came into handed and we're going back empty handed. that boiling seven three seven eight went down at eight forty four am on sunday shortly after takeoff from the capital addis ababa and drew tonight will be in neighboring kenya person just from one of them thought to countries were on board this is the time of crisis in ethiopia the airline is a symbol. pride and if europeans have thrown their full support behind it to
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paralyze small talk from since i was a small boy it was brilliant africa together. and that's why they have been doing for seventy five years. and evidence that the cross has done little to scare people away from the airline can be seen at the capital's mushrooming hotels they're teaming with passengers in transit the accident happened here it's like you haven't seen that happen so without one i would say you know s.p.c.s. not just enough to cut a globally we have those records of us interacting so as a loyal traveler and a user if you've been in l.a. that has not affected my view or perspective. if european airlines has expanded its fleet to one hundred and eleven planes it now flies to one hundred six international and twenty three domestic distillations beyond its almost professionals the airline also also for the nine percent stake in malawi alliance
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and forty five percent stake in zambia airways what ethiopian is doing is abi trochee corporate governance there basically coming in to a failed business which is not failed because there was not demand there's demand that passengers want to fly out of these countries so you've got the demand the willing to pay but the issue has been the mismanagement of those airlines in countries actually it's buying up cheap assets with strong demand and making it work i think it's a great strategy. back at the crash site walk us continue the search for debris and remain so for those who perished in the crush these so windswept filled will continue to be an international crime scene for a long time to come how it all just sita. hope you. the first of the political prisoners pardoned by the democratic republic of congo's new president a been released from jail phoenix promised about seven hundred prisoners most of
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whom would jail none of the previous regime would be freed john his first one hundred days in office. reports. the frankie on go spent two and a half years in kinshasa central prison was he is one of three prominent opposition leaders released from jail after being pardoned by democratic republic of congo's president feather's tisha katie who was elected in december the was i'm very happy to see my brother released from jail i don't know how to express all the emotion it's finally my brother is free human rights lawyer firmin young combi was also released he'd been sentenced to twenty years in prison in two thousand and nine on charges of being a threat to national security. an additional seven hundred political prisoners have also been pardoned by dishy candy most were arrested for speaking out against former president joseph kabila during his eighteen here's an office that was above the law. it's
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a joy for all of us we want to think the president and ask him not to imitate the behavior of the former regime tissue caddy's decision to pardon political prisoners is widely seen as a move to break away from the politics of his predecessor but these attempts are proving difficult i know where there were violent protests by the president supporters in kinshasa after his union for democracy and social progress party suffered a crushing loss on friday's elections for the national assembly joseph kabila is common front for congo coalition took more than two thirds of the seats in the senate or upper chamber and it already holds a majority in the lower chamber. now many are questioning the president's ability to govern independently on the streets it's feared there could be more violence. and supporters of the president claim they did not have enough senators but it's not our issue they shouldn't come and carry out these acts of vandalism in our neighborhood. but. despite the setbacks to she can he
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says he will continue to push his agenda forward in addition to the prisoner's pardon he has pledged to bring back political opponents who fled the republican convention was president this even though kabila still have considerable influence in the country caught c.l.o. the young al-jazeera the philippines is formally withdrawn from the international criminal court and began the process to leave last year after the hague based court launched an initial examination into president rodriguez detectives drug war thousands of suspected drug users and dealers have been killed since the crackdown started three years ago philippines is the second country in recent years to withdraw from the i.c.c. after burundi which left in twenty seventeen to become an international human rights lawyer he says to tell tales on a difficult one time cell from the i.c.c. . one of the points of being a member of the international criminal court when when you agree to sign up. to its
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jurisdiction if you withdraw that with a girl is suspended for a period of twelve months afterwards that is in effect to prevent situations just like this where where a state is accused of war crimes crimes and they withdraw to shield themselves from prosecution though the whole point is that you cannot be permitted to do that so the i.c.c. will continue and will have jurisdiction over prosecuting the president and the senior officials that they considered to be responsible clearly there are a lot within the philippines that want to ensure that the regime is held accountable but you know when one looks at the geishas that have been made there they are stark where in terms of the number of killings the brutality of the killings and the president hasn't sought to distance himself from them quite a country is has taken full credit for it so the evidence against him is
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overwhelming and of course he should stand trial and this step will not change that and hopefully the supremum court will take a strong stance to uphold the rule of law and ensure that he's held accountable. authorities in paris have begun a huge clear up operation after violent yell of this protest cause extensive damage on one of the world's most famous streets rioters ransacked and set fire to shops and other businesses along the leads a violent started when protesters threw smoke bombs and cobble stones at the police or than twenty people in the rest of. our time for a quick check of the headlines here on al-jazeera new zealand's government set to tighten gun laws in the wake of friday's shooting a two mosques that killed fifty people the cabinet will consider banning private ownership of semiautomatic weapons and buying back guns relatives of those killed
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are preparing for their funerals prime minister jacinta arden says the bodies of the fifty people who died are expected to be returned to their families by wednesday the family of the australian man in charge of the shootings spoke of their shock and disbelief. we're all we don't know what. you know that made you pretended for a long time so easy of this. travel. thing but boy china. can play. a new which i was sorry for the families over there for the data in the aged day which is that no one else does want to go home and. the new york times is revealing more details about the killing of the saudi journalist. as the murder in the saudi consulate in istanbul last october was part of
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a wider campaign authorized by prince mohammed bin salma on the report cites u.s. officials with access to classified intelligence documents. israeli army has raided areas in the occupied west bank after an israeli soldier was killed the military says a palestinian stop the sold him for escaping the aerial settlement. ethiopia's transport minister says there are clear similarities between the ethiopian airlines plane crash and the lion it is aster in indonesia six months earlier both involved boeing seven three seven craft a mass funeral service been held for some of the victims of last sunday's crash thousands of mourners met a procession through the capital addis ababa. on the philippines formally withdrawn from the international criminal court and began the process to leave last year after the hague based court launched an initial examination into president ordering go detectives drug war thousands of suspected drug users and dealers have been killed since the crackdown started three years ago. well those are the headlines
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the news continues here on al-jazeera after inside stories that you've done so watching. as new zealand mourns those killed by a lone gunman into the mosques calls go for a clampdown on islamophobia but what's driving the hatred and prejudice against muslims in western countries and is it linked to white supremacy this is inside city.
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and are welcome to the program has them seeking new zealand's prime minister just sindh durned calls it a terrorist attack fifty people shot dead in two mosques in the city of christchurch a man suspected to be a white supremacist is charged with murder and it is emerged a seventy four page manifesto full of hate against muslims and immigrants was sent to the prime minister and others just minutes before the attacks and it's the suspect described to us president donald trump as a symbol of renewed white identity when trump asked the durn what he could do to help she told him to show sympathy and love for all muslim communities she says new zealand gun laws will now change and let's remind ourselves of some previous attacks in two thousand and fifteen white supremacist dylan ruth killed nine african-americans in a church in charleston south carolina the following year all school morel shot dead an in man and his assistant near their mosque in queens new york in two thousand
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and seventeen six worshippers were killed by gunman alexander bissonnette at a mosque in quebec city in canada in the same year down osborn drove a van into a group of people leaving a mosque in london killing one man and last year a white supremacist robert bowers shot and killed eleven jews at a synagogue in pittsburgh pennsylvania. well let's bring in our guest now to talk more about this in melbourne via skype but we have a cross cultural consultant. shop pro she is also chair of the australian muslim women's center for human rights in beirut rodger shanahan a research fellow at the lowy institute an australian think tank and joining us from london matthew goodwin a professor at the university of kent and former member of the u.k. government's anti muslim hatred working group good to have you all with us. tasneem chopra if i could start with you then. how when you heard about this attack what
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what what was your what went through your mind first where you were you surprised by it shocked i mean given given that what were your own countries going through what was your first reaction it was i think the environment for this kind of attack culminates in the way that he has the show meant time and i think it was always a question of when. yet it didn't take weight to the tragedy and the whole integration that i'm continuing to navigate through mightn't but i think that the inevitability of it was something that sadly many of bracket employees felt was just a matter of time rodger shanahan what were your well your first feelings when you heard about this. i think everybody felt the same
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discussed and shocked at what had happened. to these people who were peacefully going about observing their religion. it still did come probably is more of a shock. the fact that it happened in new zealand which israeli touched by this kind of attack and doubly so because in a strange citizen was responsible for it so i think combination of all of those things the rarity of the event particularly in location in new zealand but also. you know just the shock and horror about about the colonies that had been caused in this terrorist attack you know what about the fact that this happened in you in new zealand meth you goodwin i mean like many people i'm sure you are shocked and horrified by this and for many people who study this perhaps some were not surprised but the fact that this happened in in a country like new zealand which is known for. being a very tolerant liberal society. well indeed sadly the the mass shooting element
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was not as surprising as perhaps it would have been in the past but what was surprising certainly to me was that this occurred in new zealand it reminded me actually of the attacks in norway again to countries norway new zealand that are known around the world for being very tolerant very liberal very relaxed and yet both going through quite shocking events and particularly in terms of politics we've had a very vigorous debate about the rise for example of right wing politics ultra right wing politics in the united states and europe and perhaps that's taken our attention away from some of these other areas of the world that are grappling with some of the same challenges and same problems does name shopper let me come back to you then this is the suspect is as it turns out was is australian and
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does it surprise you at all that what given the climate the climate in in australia right now with things there a kind of a breeding ground for what led him to this sure show and i think i don't believe you know these incidents happen in in a vacuum they they do happen on the grounds are you know it's been extended writing history what really prescribed is the right wing rhetoric based environment that his to find the political leadership that we've seen and certainly a lot of the media conason shock jocks and and it and if you insist that's thanks so because the language that's been used to demonize parents beat muslims geezer minorities has been one that has got a lot of political clout see a lot of legitimacy a lot of free time it has been given to do it is to actually espouse peace hate and rich in that they will national security in the name. securing borders but hearing
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reports and often that those comments have been made without us any position or that she see fit to be a tax measures parts from most jews who constantly be demonized so this is almost like an open slather culture if you will that has demonized and has that been their very xenophobic sokol islam the third because it's officially what it is it is basically created an environment that's good just might something be it as normal there when people talk about being surprised it at the actions of a friend terry i'm not surprised for i think this is the end result of encouraging. naming the sins and all islam as not the army of this country. basically claim they have no values or rights that this is for the families of this nation to the point where it's made no comment is abroad at least and rightly and
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it's go to the issues are problem solution or never tested period legitimizing actual technical maneuvers she so often the same problem when you say when you say there that the political leadership in australia has given many of these people cover what do you mean by that expand on the. well i think just the recent example are in response to what happened in his ear and i'm serious or fraser any has mainstay of his taken down yet or not but that is that a lot of that cry from what cross the coalition from prospect size of government that would be that they don't support disease but he's believes we're as an elected member of parliament that essentially the actions of what happened to the present people just discomfort with the migration and unfair wilson says was a direct. lesson to racists and only the really horrific big the summit say not just because of the climate they were being but because of how sure the having tea is and how the precise mentality then she feels and gives invective to others to
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her to come can't what group was done so as a leader is someone's personally own responsibility in this country to then take the view that it's well time stand it will not be seen what happens and justifying it is absolutely appalling rodger shanahan how would you characterize the current climate in australia towards towards the muslim community and towards immigration in general because of course that the australian government has taken. quite a firm stance against. refugees quite a controversial one. listen as a lot to unpack there are probably so i had to start with two things before we started to reading blindman influences on. who influenced this person in the cowardly attack that he carried out you really need to white a period of time to find out his social media background his conversational
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background his travel background to find out who has actually influenced him it's very easy decided that the whole environment influenced him but obtain an expert witness in more than two dozen terrorism trials here in astride it and you get the real understanding of what has during this person from a collection of. telephone intercepts from the history of searches from on the internet and the dr net that's when you really understand what what motivated this person the unfortunate reality is we're going to have the white some time before we can actually understand who influenced this person and it's going to be critical to understanding that fact before we can address some of the issues and probably on another issue about why new zealand are numb and this is an issue that will take up some people's time and and if you guy from the from the fact that this person had
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obviously decided at some point with these high true the most them said he wanted to kill as many as possible it's possible that he chose new zealand as the place to do it because of their relatively lax gun laws gotten as much taught in the one of the things that has frustrated islamist terrorists in a straw you previously has been the inability to access semiautomatic weapons so it's quite possible that this person traveled to new zealand and i the with a specific purpose or over a period of time decided that you zealand was an ac a target then a straw. on the broader issue of migration and attitude to muslims. what senator fries and he has said is deplorable hopefully tomorrow there's going to be a. bipartisan sense censure of him by both the government
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and the lives of piety we also have to remember that yes he was elected representative but he achieved nineteen that's one nine votes in queens and. a range of curiosities with our electoral system and the fact that some of the people ahead of him on the ballot had to leave because of citizenship cleary's he ended up in palm and absolutely he's an elected representative but this is a really a reflection of him as an individual about what he's been saying and the fact that he got nineteen votes probably tells you all you need to know about how much popular support he has he's just a person with a platform particularly offensive view is and i think the government and the opposition to doing exactly the right thing and marginalizing him and his views. on the whole issue about migration as you said sorry i'll let you go on yes i will come back to that in a moment i want to get matthew goodwin's view on this do you think politicians have
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fueled a lot of this as well and as others have said given legitimacy to to many white nationalists. well i certainly think it's part of the explanation if you look at democracy since the one nine hundred eighty s. we've really seen a rise in populist movements a more exclusionary language that's become especially prominent since the two thousands but as i said earlier on you know and to reiterate some of the statements made by the previous speaker when you're dealing with individuals it's often very difficult to identify what was that cools all mechanism to push them into perpetrating violence so if you look for example of a lot of the research we have in europe particularly germany where the german authorities have looked to perpetrate this very closely you know they often say that they tend to be yon the middle aged men they tend to have lower levels of
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education they often have a background of alcohol old old drug abuse old petty criminality but often you know those generalisations you know that they don't always hold up. sometimes you find individuals who have be flooding with right wing extremist movements but not necessarily being active members in those groups for example be. the labor politician here in the u.k. joe koch who would be sort of floating around the fringes of movements but not necessarily being highly active in the meanwhile you can look at somebody's life and as brave it was fully and in the online albeit all the right wing extremist forums the one thing of that i would add before we continue the conversation however is over the last forty eight hours i've noticed a lot of the debate about this issue has been about big tech and social media we must remember that we had perpetrators of mass violence before we had big tech
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and social media people like timothy mcveigh for example who we conveniently forget or david coughlin the obama here in london who talkative it sexual communities who we conveniently forget yes big tech has a massive road supply but we have to remember that actually these individuals can sometimes flip through the net irrespective of what's happening in the online obit . such as name if i could turn back to you on this one how much of a role has the internet played on all of this i mean there was one former white supremacist it was in an interview said that it was it was like a twenty four hour hate buffet in that there's this always access there. to to to this kind of rhetoric whereas before in an age before the internet you actually had to you had to actually meet with the person they were and so on now it's much more readily available how much is as as the internet and social media fueled this
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kind of sense of look i think this into the early to huge question and the sequester that governments that are grappling with now and certainly in the wake of museums it's pretty much all consuming issue so yes i mean it's the social media is based it's you know it is responsible for propagating streets and certainly for family the flames of division and hateful rhetoric through experiences of live stream video for example but then by the same token it's also the cause of enormous you know positivity for example today i believe in briston in the north in positive straightly there was a vigil held outside a mosque. to to embrace what happened or to other to mourn the loss of last easy art and still many people want to attend but couldn't so they they live streaming the service. which is kind of ironic in india what has happened
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yet it was considered to be a viable way of dissemination situation because it was a it was understood to be a very positive thing to do so i think it can be weaponized to good or bad and that that is the nature of human beings they're going to they're there to do things either way how do you police that there is a far more critical question and i think that's something that facebook is grappling with and rightly so. rodger shanahan how do you combat this sort of day i mean there are so many websites and so many areas on the internet on the dark web and so on which you talked about earlier where we're people people can go. and the authorities only have a fixed number of people to. to do to to monitor people i mean they can they can monitor everyone can they will work what needs to be done. listen it's a massive challenge for law enforcement and security agencies and as you pointed out it's a bit like whack a mole was an issue shut down one service another one will pop up. i
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suppose this is you know. it's maybe called comfort i suppose that. while it's a witness it's also i potential source of exploitation by security and law enforcement agencies because the more that people are on this they saw it's in that communicate with each other. the more you're able to get a sense of what kind of networks that these people are working in that requires you to have some kind of understanding of some of the players within the network so it's not necessarily all a bad thing. but when we're talking about influences before and we need to understand who these persons influences were it is possible to make it more difficult for people to access these kind of people who spin this tradition and rhetoric online or upload their speeches or and the document p.d.f.
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documents. but that's really all that you can do you can make it harder but you can't stop them because. the y. that some of these people technically savvy that always find a fix and a wire around it but as i said before while there are advantages to law enforcement agencies with these things and the smadi you are as a terrorist or a an extremist or a radical. the more dangerous because you understand what security precautions you need to take to stay under the ride and from all that we know about this person at the moment he was clever enough that he wasn't on anybody's ride or he was a solid travel. the country for a number of years the security agencies never had him on the ride out which is quite understandable matthew goodman should this be a wake up call then to not just the security services but to politicians that they
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need to be. because the criticism has been that. these white nationalist groups have been been kind of ignored for too long or just kind of dismissed as as. as a sideshow really as not a not a major threat it would this is this a kind of watershed moment well it's difficult to know and that's one of the sad things about where we are that we've had a number of mass attacks as you mentioned at the beginning of the program and yet we still find ourselves facing this question of is this thing's going to finally change i think if you go back to twenty eleven twenty twelve and you look at the reaction to the attacks by the right wing extremist and as for a victim there was a i think a good example of of a democracy in that case norway responding quite positively to that attack it invested heavily in research it set up a new scent or it boasted security powers that allowed i think the debate to
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move all to looking at actually. what causes these attacks and to invest quite heavily in that but i think in other democracies you haven't really save that kind of investment in the off the mouth of an attack and i think that's one of the issues that we have to think about now which is not only does how does new zealand evolve from day soon i think the first debate will be how does new zealand changes gun laws and i think that's a sort of something that's a bit of a no brainer if you like for new zealand i suspect they'll do that quite quickly but it's actually how do democracies better tools themselves better equip themselves to do with some of these issues and i can say when i was on the u.k. government group on anti muslim hatred one of my frustrations indeed the reason that i resigned from that group was that at that particular time the u.k. government wasn't serious about investing in this issue its sole attempts to tackle islamophobia more as being token estate because being symbolic but not necessarily
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putting the resources behind those initiatives in a way that would actually make them have an impact and i found that incredibly frustrating. how much you think is this down to fear of immigration you know what's been called a kind of demographic and fear fear of the other and so on. i think it's been absolutely central and i think you know it's interesting when we've had this conversation regarding no terrorist suspects the return of us three groups you know the government the west is very very strident that will are backing what would have happened if you can't have a strain in present conversation because there is this there was never option to deport joe citizens we don't deal with that we don't want to make that our problem in this particular instance the terrorist is a stray there is no way to deport him this is a product of what i mentioned earlier a long systemic culture that his neighbor had this kind of thing to happen and
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rather than question where was he ready clients and look to attack and deal with that issue we had let me do he cricket's we do see progress there has not been based in response in fact you know in a believe in the us. in the the recent to the astray she actually took running away from investigating right we suppressed terrorism because still considered to be a viable area of research and already you know resources have been allocated to islam it's terms of industry i don't even know what the situation is except we do know the intelligence tell us but i think it's in us and strayer that rightly terrorism is the largest growing foreign to mr terrorists in the country but we're not it's not it's not a sexy election still nobody wants to strengthen our borders against what supremacist because it's a very uncomfortable things to notice shanahan i'm going to give what's going to be a last word to you how much of a role has immigration played in all of this particular case of australia.
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well and in this particular in this particular instance from what we know from the background of the person and the manifesto and perhaps the the sites that we know that he's been active on he certainly any immigration he certainly anti muslim he's a bigoted radical terrorist. now how do you. prioritize that in the list of priorities and resources that security agencies have it's a it's a very difficult question and there's been nearly one hundred since twenty fifteen been nearly twenty four day nearly one hundred people charge in terrorism offenses in the stride. and. right wing extremists account for one or two of those the rest are radical islamists so when you have a government that has
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a finite number of resources they have to prioritize the threats that they that they perceive then unfortunately this person wasn't on the right are to really difficult juggling act so security agencies. good to have your with us we're going to have to leave it there. rodger shanahan and matthew goodman thanks very much for being with us and thank you for watching as always you can see this program again any time by going to our website al-jazeera dot com and for the discussion days of facebook page facebook dot com forward slash a.j. in size two you can also join us on twitter our handle there is at a.j. inside story from me has a secret and the whole team nearby for. i
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mean if if every weekly news cycle brings a series of breaking stories and then of course there's donald trump told through the eyes of the world's channelise that's right out of a hamas script that calls for the annihilation of israel that is not what that phrase means at all he joined the listening post as we turned the cameras on the media focus on how they were caught on the stories that matter the most him better use a free palestine a listening post on al-jazeera. be chips for democratically elected president ousted and held incommunicado since two thousand and thirteen events shrouded in secrecy so power change hands as the military seize control from its commander in chief for the first time al-jazeera reveals exclusively what happened
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behind closed doors directly from those who witnessed it first hand morsy the final hours on al-jazeera i really still liberated as a journalist was. going to the cruise as it was that's what this job. underinsured in doha the top stories here on al-jazeera new zealand's government is set to tighten gun laws in the wake of friday's shooting at two mosques that killed fifty people the cabinet will consider banning private ownership of semiautomatic rifles and buying back outlawed guns for relatives of those who died are preparing for their funerals the prime minister says all the bodies are expected to be
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returned to families by wednesday and thomas reports on the outskirts of christ church they are digging graves fifty i need it now the official number killed rose on sunday when police clearing bodies from the two mosques attacked found one they had not been aware of before. a list of victims names have been shared with family the police commissioner confirmed that the man they have in custody brenton tyrant is the only suspect in friday's attacks three others arrested shortly after they took place are not now believed to have been involved. called a witness the immediate aftermath of the attacks he was driving past the allen nor mosque and saw people running he jumped out of his call to help the wounded and the dying that was a. daughter who are fighting for their laws particularly the daughter to be about five she was touching god. i've been off the boat and managed to get the father of
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the daughter in the back of that and out because the ambulances were coming and i will add on because i was on the edge of the cordon but i would let him because the area was a secure. you know what happened to the go what's been going on here that there was a father and daughter that hostile wife and the daughter this fall i don't know whether that was the site. of the building that we were near. in wellington new zealand's prime minister met with muslim community needs to again stress the solidarity and support and around the country a christian church services muslim victims were in their thoughts and prayers more than thirty people remain in hospital some still in a critical condition many of the patients that are being already gone from the incident require more surgeries as
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a consequence of the complexity of the nature of the injuries in a christ church warehouse volunteers are giving their time and florists their flowers to make bouquet is to lay on coffins each one represents a life a family member they were a bomber day it's. brother or sister. to each of sound it's sorry. there will be fifty bouquets for fifty new graves i'm sure thomas al-jazeera cross church. family of the australian man charged with the shootings have spoken to the shock and disbelief. we're all gobsmacked we don't know what to think ate. you know it made you sighing he sprained it for a long time so he selfishly nod of san ramon i'd think travel diver say so i think that boy has china. complained plato knew which i was sorry
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for the families over there before the days when the aged day which is tough enough and else just for the government. the new york times revealing more details about the killing of the saudi journalist. says the murder in the saudi consulate in istanbul last october was part of a wider campaign authorized by the crown prince mom been psalm on the report cites u.s. officials with access to classified intelligence documents israeli army has raid that areas in the occupied west bank off an israeli soldier was killed when a tree says a palestinian stopped the soldier before escaping the aerial settlement and a few of us transport minister says there are clear similarities between the ethiopian airlines plane crash and the lion air disaster in the age of six months earlier both involved boeing's seven three seven max eight aircraft is but i must funeral service the victims of last sunday's crash thousands of mourners at a procession through his opera. right well those are the headlines the news
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tourism agriculture and fishing and major ports for exporting goods to europe and for imports into africa. camels no longer distribute produce the only effective network in this part of the world is the roads to places like dakar the capital of senegal. because. rooms and trucks hundreds if not thousands of them. drivers have to deal with the mechanics of huge engines and maneuver great monsters
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with eighteen tons mt over forty four that need to. go. through this film fall into truck drivers on a three thousand kilometer journey from to dakar. to beat i now needed help to make last minute repairs to his vehicle to get it's ready for the outward trip which might take as long as two leaks. driving scotchman's are no respect turns up time things are nights. and dogs can be a sets off in the dark and heads off towards the coast road that will take him first to the southwestern border of morocco.
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but how this could be it is not in the strength he's accompanied in another truck by him packing to be eight and the two will follow one another for the full three thousand kilometers to dakar at the mall and then they all enough bodies are lost. on its. own only she didn't need. them. unless sent in the limit a lot less than say for it. it will look. like. a number. of those that she. has looked and. she.
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didn't. she do was. talk to us. and hopkins could be to make their first stop before dawn to grab some fresh food from oslo all of her life and a lot of cloth a little. older than me you. see. me and if i'm having a. little bit. of his guts but i have to know. there will be times in the next few days when they will miss not only their families but
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also the simple comforts of even this modest roadside cafe. one of the characters. but if you miss you a kid in the uk. who saw it saw. it. when it brought him and i have this could be your set off they can't always tell their families how long they'll be away such is the unpredictability of the journey ahead. for them to save. the day before. she she. didn't mean it is that.
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this is not like truck driving across the united states for long distances are common but where ours are controlled by federal law. it's not like driving in europe with its titrate condition and vehicle monitoring systems measuring driver time activity. this is driving it so hard i think. there are no motorway service stations no twenty four hour s.o.'s vehicle recovery no spare parts at the end of a mobile phone. call. there
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should be a multiple it's always pistol to be. slovak and surely you have it as in a hostile order that's. called on didn't make any sense of that but it's all that i know we're. telling the know your department. driving hours don't seem to be regulated and there are no rest areas. painted on this trip is mineral material but whatever they're carrying they can't really leave the vehicle for security reasons. they also have to refuel when they pass a service station as there be huge distances to head with enough.
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