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tv   NEWSHOUR  Al Jazeera  March 18, 2019 4:00pm-5:01pm +03

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hello there the weather's been really messy across europe recently with one system after another you can see the latest area of cloud a rain that's working its way up through scandinavia at the moment and giving us some strong winds as it does say so that's where we'll see the worst of the weather during the day on monday still dragging plenty of cloud rain and snow behind it as well that in the southeast is a lot brighter there twenty four quite warm there in bucharest and that warm weather stretching towards the west too so seventeen with a maximum in rome and sixteen with some sunshine in madrid after the western parts of europe will see the pressure begin to build over the next few days and that means the weather will settle down and we'll see less showers and the winds will ease as well so the temperatures there around thirteen for london paris and more in the way of sunshine as we head through the day on tuesday as well for the other side of the mediterranean generally is looking quite quiet weather wise as we head through monday but that warm sixteen that you now just see the winds coming down from the north and they could just give us one or two showers over the mountains
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but the weather really gets going on tuesday that's when there's more wet weather developing here she's day we'll also see a little area of low pressure develop over parts of libya and this will pick up a lot of sand a lot of quite a blustery day here and quite a murky one as well for many. parts.
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again this is al jazeera let's remind you of the main news this hour new zealand's prime minister says that gun laws will be changed in the wake of friday's shooting at two mosques that killed fifty people the government will consider banning private ownership of semi automatic rifles and buying back outlaw guns the country's top police officer says the threat level across the country remains high arms police have been deployed around schools businesses and places of worship. the acting white house chief of staff has defended the us president for not calling out white supremacists following the massacre in new zealand make mobile mulvaney said that donald trump has done what a president should do by reaching out to new zealand's leader and offering
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condolences but trump has been criticized for not explicitly condemning the attack the government called trump a symbol of renewed white identity in his manifesto al-jazeera is gabriel is on the reports from washington. just on sunday president john donald trump tweeted comments of support towards a fox news host by the name of jeanine pirro this is important because pirro was suspended from her fox news show after saying very anti islamic islamophobia comments on her program trump tweeted support for her again this comes just three days after the terrible shootings in new zealand that claimed the lives of dozens of muslims now the president's chief of staff mick mulvaney was on the sunday shows and he said this about that claim instead of worrying about well. who's to blame how do we stop from doing this donald trump is no more to blame for what happened in new zealand than mark zuckerberg is because he invented facebook
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there are some terrible people in the world we need to work with our partners of which new zealand is one of them to try and figure a way to find them expose them and bring them to justice democratic senator tim kaine also was on the sunday shows and he had some very pointed comments i want to read it to you he said we have to confront the fact that there is a rise in white supremacy anti immigrant an anti muslim attitudes in america tim kaine said the president united states uses language that's often very similar to the language used by bigots and racists that was from senator tim kaine on sunday many people hoping the president donald trump will be more do more to denounce this but so far in his presidency he's been reluctant to do so if the o.p.'s transport minister says there are clear similarities between last weekend's ethiopian airlines plane crash of the lion a disaster. both involve boeing seven three seven eight aircraft a mass funeral service has been held for some of the victims was zero one hundred
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out of the reports now from out as of about. grieving. the one hundred five to seven victims of ethiopian airlines flight three zero. arriving at this field where remnants of the ally and allies true not around brings it all home for them. airline officials say they haven't found even a single body intact just body parts which would make the added process took a while when is it to know they need to pay an ethiopian airlines didn't give us anything they told us to wait until thursday we waited in thursday came they are now saying they couldn't find anything i wish they told us that they found nothing in the first place this is major greek heavy we came into handed and we're going back empty handed. that buoying seven three seven marks eight a line i went down at eight forty four am on sunday shortly after takeoff from the capital addis ababa and drew tonight will be in neighboring kenya pozen just from
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one of them thought to countries were on board this is the time of crisis in ethiopia the airline is a symbol of muscle pride and they feel peons have thrown their full support behind it to paralyze small talk from since i was a small boy was brilliant africa together and. the us was have been for seventy five years laughter and evidence that the cross has done little to scare people away from the airline can be seen of the capitol smushed looming hotels there teeming with passengers in transit the accident happened here it's like if you haven't seen that happen straight out and i would say you know s.p.c.s. not just enough to cut a globally we have those records of us interacting so as a layer of travel are and i use that if you've been in l.a. that has not affected my view or perspective. if the european airlines has expanded
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its fleet to one hundred and eleven planes it now flies to one hundred six international and twenty three domestic distillations beyond its almost professionals the airline also also for the nine per cent stake in malawi alliance and forty five percent stake in zambia airways what ethiopian is doing is all but try for corporate governance that basically coming in to a failed business which is not failed because there was not demand there's demand that passengers want to fly out of these countries so you've got the demand the willing to pay but the issue has been the mismanagement of those airlines in country actually it's buying up cheap assets with strong demand and making it work i think it's a great strategy. back at the crash site walk us continue the search for debris and remain so for those who perished in the crush these so windswept filled one continued to be an international crime scene for a long time to come how it all does either.
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israel's supreme court has banned the leader of a far right party from running in next month's elections it says that michael ben-ari of the jewish power party incited racism against palestinians the decision overturns a ruling by israel's election committee the court also reinstated israeli palestinian parties which had been disqualified let's go live to the west roussillon to serious are a force that could tell us more who is michael ben ari kerry and why was he disqualified . well he is the leader of this jewish supremacists racist party in many people's opinion and he is someone who is a follower of america the very far right rabbi politician who was a player in israeli politics in the one nine hundred eighty s. and his party at that time the cock party was disqualified from running in of election in the late eighty's decided again by the high court that it was
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a racist party and so this time the high court has rather than trying to ban an entire party has targeted for the first time a specific politician as you say voting eight one against his eligibility for the knesset israeli parliament elections coming up on april the ninth because of what it judged to be his racist views so what that means is that he is out but his party is still part of an alliance with other right wing parties which are trying to get into the knesset and alliance which was engineered by the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu to make sure that there would be sufficient numbers of right wing members in the knesset after the elections to ensure that he can't make a coalition this was an extremely controversial step that he took but the other members of the party it's
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a mob in bend via. the second person on the list he will now move up one place up that party list so there is a good chance that he may well be elected he's someone who has hanging on his wall a portrait of baruch goldstein the mass murderer who killed twenty nine worshippers in the mosque in hebron in one thousand nine hundred four in the same week of course that we're seeing these dreadful scenes from new zealand so it does still obtain that there is this party which is going to play potentially a very important role in the coalition building after the election despite this ruling by the high court area court also reinstated candidates who've been barred by the election committee where they stand on the political spectrum. well they are from the left wing in terms of the jewish candidate who is part of
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that mainly palestinian israeli palestinian list and also this party. which is a fusion of two israeli palestinian parties now they have been targeted by the israeli right as being terrorist supporters people like michael ben are equal israeli palestinian is in the in their entirety as a fifth column against the jewish state and so they were excluded by what is a politicised body the elections committee on march the sixth now the high court has decided that was in error and that they that while some of the statements have been troubling in the high court's opinion it did not merit their being excluded from the elections and so by the same margin eight one they were voted eligible to stand people on the israeli right the justice minister members of the new right party which is part of the coalition with prime minister benjamin netanyahu are
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complaining saying that terrorists are allowed to be standing while people with their sons in the israeli army are being excluded carry many thanks very for the live in west jerusalem the new york times revealed more details about the killing of the saudi journalist demolishor it says the murder in the saudi consulate in istanbul last october was part of a wider campaign or the rise by crown prince mohammed bin solomon the report cites u.s. officials with access to classified intelligence documents john shand is executive director of the arab center of washington he says the report highlights the inconsistency is in the saudi government's narrative. i think it's a very significant revelation in the sense that it puts in context the murder of. this was not. pretended at least for a while by saudi officials that it was totally isolated and
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a mistake clearly it's not isolated and neither was it a mistake it was part of a covert campaign that started more than a year before the murder. and it involved at least a dozen of and said and according to this excellent report by the by the new york times different operations and different countries as your report just indicated that include that sort of valence kidnap torture or forcible repatriation to the kingdom detention illegally in other words administrative detention without charges and an abuse of prisoners this is very significant information and put the basically puts the murder in historical context former gang members in the u.s. is doing their bit to reduce gun violence and the taking something of a novel approach as it was john hendren reports from chicago follow the tracks from
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the chicago skyline and you'll find some of the most violent neighborhoods in america. last year here in the windy city five hundred thirty people were murdered fewer than the previous two years or so to see them. a group called cure violence is using a novel approach to reduce the killings treating violence like an epidemic and sending health workers mostly former gangsters into dangerous neighborhoods to stop the contagion a lot of people don't know valises like it's contagious disease you know. is watching us you know to say this to the approach started in two thousand after spending fifteen years with the world health organization battling tuberculosis cholera and aids in africa dr gary slotkin returned to chicago to find an astonishing parallel it looked to me just like these other problems like these
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other infectious diseases to say the maps showed clustering just like cholera and a. contagious disease. in west chicago in the most dangerous police district in the country shootings and killings fell sixty seven percent in the first year since then the program has expanded to several of chicago's worst neighborhoods and to twenty five other cities in more than fourteen countries we joined the group in two thousand and thirteen when a rival gang shot up the van of a man called grandad in a case of mistaken identity as the gang prepares to retaliate granddad calls cure violence then known as ceasefire after the violence interrupters broker a tense negotiation the government offered three hundred dollars for repairs the price of a life here. the violence like. the cold months because it's whenever. happens so a little interaction now can mean
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a more peaceful summer studies show neighborhood violence interrupters can reduce killings by fifty to seventy percent new york and los angeles each spend about twenty five million dollars a year on the program i'm a gun carrying. pre-surgery. they want to have you know but funding for chicago where it all began is just five to six million dollars a year and each year the city sees more murders than the two larger cities combined but even five million has made a difference john hendren al-jazeera chicago and new york is going back as far as two thousand years to look at life in the middle east it's called the wall between . heidi jocasta reports it's well that's not so different from today's. a babylonian goddess with rubies for eyes
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a bust of the prius lawmaker arabian god do shara from petra one of the earliest surviving paintings of jesus christ from what is now syria cultures collide at the met museum's latest eggs edition which focuses on the middle east nearly two thousand years ago called the world between empires it examines the cultural religious and commercial exchanges that took place as the romans and parthians from what's now iran jostle for control. one of the highlights is this bronze statue of aphrodite a western goddess fitted with a middle eastern style emerald and gold necklace that object is a combination of rome in nearest near eastern religion an art that very much exemplifies the message and concept of the exhibition it's not just ancient deities the exhibition offers a glimpse into ordinary life around the region like this portrait online stone of
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a woman from palmyra with surviving pigment as well as family portraits coins jewelry and other every day items so we're trying to show in the exhibition that the saying the same diversity and for a variety that go to make up you or me that those elements and that complexity apply to ancient people to today with heritage sites being destroyed by ice soul in syria and iraq and by the saudi led war in yemen a major part of the world between empires is given to three archeologists who worked extensively in the region of course it seems misguided to focus on monuments when people are enslaved there tortured or killed to wipe out or destroy their heritage the landscape the monuments is a way of destroying people so we count really separate the two
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a reminder that the issues that long ago concern the middle east are as relevant today as ever. castro al jazeera. it is good to have you with us hello adrian said. the top stories this hour a new zealand's prime minister says that gun laws will be changed in the wake of friday's shooting up to mosques that killed fifty people the government will consider banning private ownership of semiautomatic rifles of buying back outlawed guns high powered rifles like those used in the attacks are expected to be found. i've already made clear that number of new zealanders question the availability of military style seamy automatic weapons in new zealand however i will be giving i'm all for some sort of data house once we've worked through the in principle decision
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that cabinet has made today is even stopped police officer says the threat level across the country remains high armed police have been deployed around schools businesses and places of worship but he's believe the suspect friends and terrence carried out the attacks alone but may have had some support us back fighters in syria say the battle to retake one of iceland's last strongholds will be longer than expected syrian democratic forces said efforts to recapture about who was being slowed down by land mines it says that thousands of civilians are being held as human shields israeli media have identified the person suspected of killing an israeli soldier in the occupied west bank on sunday the israeli military says the palestinians stabbed the soldier took his weapon and fired at civilians outside the aerial settlement south of babblers he then escaped from the scene of a recipe buried in the village where the suspect lives. so the headlines the news
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continues here on al-jazeera after today's edition of inside story next. we understand the differences and the similarities of cultures across the world. so many times when you call home al-jazeera international bringing the news and current of things that matter to. al-jazeera. as new zealand mourns those killed while a lone gunman into the mosques calls go for a clampdown on islamophobia but what's driving the hatred and prejudice against muslims in western countries and is it linked to white supremacy this is inside story.
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a welcome to the program has i'm seeking new zealand's prime minister just sindh durned calls it a terrorist attack fifty people shot dead in two mosques in the city of christchurch a man suspected to be a white supremacist is charged with murder and it is emerged a seventy four page manifesto full of hate against muslims and immigrants was sent to the prime minister and others just minutes before the attacks and it's the suspect described to us president donald trump as a symbol of renewed white identity when trump asked the durn what he could do to help she told him to show sympathy and love for all muslim communities she says new zealand gun laws will now change and let's remind ourselves of some previous attacks in two thousand and fifteen white supremacist dylan ruth killed nine african-americans in a church in charleston south carolina the following year all school morel shot dead an in ma'am and his assistant near their mosque in queens new york in two thousand
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and seventeen six worshippers were killed by gunmen alexander bissonnette at a mosque in quebec city in canada in the same year down osborne drove a van into a group of people leaving a mosque in london killing one man and last year white supremacist robert bowers shot and killed eleven jews at a synagogue in pittsburgh pennsylvania. well let's bring in our guests now to talk more about this in melbourne via skype but we have a cross cultural consultant. pro she is also chair of the australian muslim women's center for human rights in beirut rodger shanahan a research fellow at the lowy institute an australian think tank and joining us from london matthew goodwin a professor at the university of kent and former member of the u.k. government's anti muslim hatred working group good to have you all with us. tasneem chopra if i could start with you then how when you heard about this attack what
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what what was your what went through your mind first where you were you surprised by it shocked i mean given given that what were your own countries going through what was your first reaction it was i think the environment for this kind of attack culminates in the way that he has the show meant for some time and i think it was always a question of when. yet it didn't take weight to the tragedy and the whole integration that i'm continuing to navigate through mightn't but i think that the inevitability of it was something that sadly many of bracket employees felt was just a matter of time rodger shanahan what were your well your first feelings when you heard about this. i think everybody felt the same
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discussed and shocked at what had happened. to these people who were patiently going about observing their religion. yet still did come probably is more of a shock. the fact that happened in new zealand which israeli touched by this kind of attack and double the size because in a strange citizen was responsible for it so i think combination of all of those things the rarity of the event particularly unlike ation in new zealand but also. you know just the shock and horror about about the commies that had been caused in this terrorist attack you know what about the fact that this happened in you in new zealand method goodwin i mean like many people i'm sure you you a shock to and horrified by this and for many people who study this perhaps some were not surprised but the fact that this happened in in a country like new zealand which is known for. being a very tolerant liberal society. well indeed sadly the the mass shooting element
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was not as surprising as perhaps it would have been in the past but what was surprising certainly to me was that this occurred in new zealand it reminded me actually of the attacks in norway again two countries norway new zealand that are known around the world for being very tolerant very liberal very relaxed and yet both going through quite shocking about incidents particularly in terms of politics we've had a very vigorous debate about the raw use for example of right wing politics ultra right wing politics in the united states in europe and perhaps that's taken our attention away from some of these other areas of the world that are grappling with some of the same challenges and same problems does name shopper let me come back to you then this is the suspect is it as it turns out was. is australian and
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does it surprise you at all that what given the climate the climate inot in australia right now with things there a kind of a breeding ground for what led him to this sure show and i think i don't believe that you know these incidents happen in in a vacuum they they do happen on the ground there are it's have an extended writing history what really be described as a right wing rhetoric based sort of environment that has defined lot of the political leadership that we've seen and certainly a lot of the media climate and shock jocks and and if you insist that space so that the language that's being used to demonize and generalize muslims minorities has been one that has got a lot of political currency a lot of legitimacy a lot of free time and has been given to it is to actually espoused his hate and riches in the name or national security in the name of securing borders but hearing
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reports and often that those comments have been made without us any position or a bit cheesy for it to be expenditures wants from us to use he's constantly being demonized so this is almost like an open slather culture if you will that has demonized and has been very very xenophobic so close some of it because it's officially what it is it is basically created an environment that's just might something be it as normal there when people talk about being surprised it at the actions of a friend terry i'm not surprised for i think this is the end result of the courage and. making sense and all islam as not the army of this country. basically claim they have no values or rights that this is for the families of this nation to the point where it's made no. commentate is a thought at least and rightly and it's go to pieces all final solution or never
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tested theory legitimizing actual technical maneuvers she so often will some problem when you say when you say there that the political leadership in australia has given many of these people cover what do you mean by that expand on that one i think just the recent example are in response to what happened in his ear and i'm serious or fraser any has mainstay of his taken down yet or not but that is that a lot of that cry from what cross the coalition from prospect size of government that would be that they don't support disease but he's worth as an elected member of parliament that essentially the actions of what happened to the present people just discomfort with the migration and unfair wilson says was a direct. lesson to racists and only the really horrific big the summit say not just because of the climate the but because of how sure the activities and how the precise mentality then she feels and gives invective to others to her to come can't
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what group was done so as a leader is someone's plea of responsibility in this country to then take the view that it's well time stand will know but you see what happens and justifying it is absolutely appalling rodger shanahan how would you characterize the current climate in australia towards towards the muslim community and towards immigration in general because of course that the australian government has taken. quite a firm stance against. refugees quite a controversial one. listen as a lot to unpack there are probably so i had to start with two things before we started to reading blindman influences on. who influenced this person in the cowardly attack that he carried out you really need to white a period of time to find out his social media background his conversational
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background his travel background to find out who has actually influenced him it's very easy to say that the whole environment influenced him but obtain an expert witness in more than two dozen terrorism trials here in astride it and you get the real understanding of what has during this person from a collection of. telephone intercepts from the history of searches from on the internet and the doc net that's when you really understand what what motivated this person the unfortunate reality is we're going to have the white some time before we can actually understand who influenced this person and it's going to be critical to understanding that fact before we can address some of the issues and probably on another issue about why new zealand and and this is an issue that will take up some people's time and and if you guy from the from the fact that this person had
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obviously decided at some point with these high true the most them said he wanted to kill as many as possible it's highly possible that he chose new zealand as the place to do it because of their relatively lax gun laws gotten as much taught in the one of the things that has frustrated islamist terrorists in a strategy a previously has been the inability to access semiautomatic weapons so it's quite possible that this person traveled to new zealand and the with a specific purpose or over a period of time decided that you zealand was an ac a target then a straw yet. on the broader issue of migration and attitude to muslims. what senator fries and he has said is deplorable hopefully tomorrow there's going to be a. bipartisan sense censure of him by both the government
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and the lives of piety we also have to remember that yes he was elected representative but he achieved nineteen that's one nine votes in queens and. a range of curiosities with our electoral system and the fact that some of the people ahead of him on the ballot had to leave because of citizenship cleary's he ended up in palm and absolutely he's an elected representative but this is a really a reflection of him as an individual about what he's been saying and the fact that he got nineteen votes probably tells you all you need to know about how much popular support he has he's just a person with a platform particularly offensive view is and i think the government and the opposition to doing exactly the right thing and marginalizing him and his views. on the whole issue about migration as you said sorry i'll let you go on yes i will come back to that in a moment i want to get matthew goodwin's view on this do you think politicians have
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fueled a lot of this as well and as others have said given legitimacy to to many white nationalists. well i certainly think it's part of the explanation if you look at democracy since the one nine hundred eighty s. we've really seen a rise in populist movements a more exclusionary language that's become especially prominent since the two thousands but as i said earlier on you know and to reiterate some of the statements made by the previous speaker when you're dealing with individuals it's often very difficult to identify what was that cools all mechanism to push them into perpetrating bylane so if you look for example of a lot of the research we have in europe particularly germany where the german authorities have looked to perpetrate this very closely you know they often say that they tend to be young the middle age men they tend to have lower levels of
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education they often have a background of alcohol old old drug abuse old petty criminality but often you know those generalisations you know that they don't always hold up. sometimes you find individuals who have be flooding with right wing extremist movements but not necessarily being active members in those groups for example the over the labor politician here in the u.k. joe cogs who would be sort of floating around the fringes of movements but not necessarily being highly active in the meanwhile you can look at somebody's life and as brave it was fully and in the online albeit all the right wing extremist forums the one thing of that i would add before we continue the conversation however is over the last forty eight hours i've noticed a lot of the debate about this issue has been about big tech and social media we must remember that we had perpetrators of mass violence before we had big tech and
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social media people like timothy mcveigh for example who we conveniently forget or david coughlin the obama here in london who talkative sexual communities who we conveniently forget yes big tech has a massive road supply but we have to remember that actually these individuals can sometimes flip through the net irrespective of what's happening in the online orbit . so does name if i could turn back to you on this one how much of a role has the internet played on all of this i mean there was one former white supremacist it was in an interview said that it was it was like a twenty four hour hate buffet in that there's there's always access there. to to to this kind of rhetoric whereas before in an age before the internet you actually had to you had to actually meet with the person they were and so on now it's much more readily available how much is as as the internet and social media fueled this
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kind of sense of look i think to the late it's a huge question and the sequester that go home and said abruptly now and certainly in the wake of new zealand it's pretty much all consuming issue so yes i mean it's the social media is based it's you know it is responsible for propagating streets and certainly for family the flames of division and hateful rhetoric through experiences of live stream video for example but then by the same token it's also the cause of enormous you know positivity for example today i believe in bristol in the northern pastas trailer there was a vigil held outside a mosque. to to embrace what happened or to other to mourn the loss of the last easy art and still many people want to attend but couldn't so they they live streaming the service. which is kind of ironic in india what has happened
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yet it was considered to be a viable way of dissemination situation because it was a it was understood to be a very positive thing to do so i think it can be weaponized to good or bad and that that is the nature of human beings they're going to they're there to do things either way how do you police that there is a far more critical question and i think that's something that facebook is grappling with and rightly so. rodger shanahan how do you combat this sort of day i mean there are so many websites and so many areas on the internet on the dark web and so on which you talked about earlier where we're people people can go. and the authorities only have a fixed number of people to. to do to to monitor people i mean they can they can monitor everyone can they will work what needs to be done. listen it's a massive challenge for law enforcement and security agencies and as you pointed out it's a bit like whack a mole as soon as you shut down one service another one will pop up. i
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suppose this is you know. it's maybe cold comfort i suppose that. while it's a witness it's also a potential source of exploitation by security and law enforcement agencies because the more that people are on this they saw it's in that communicate with each other . the more you're able to get a sense of what kind of networks that these people are working in that requires you to have some kind of understanding of some of the players within the network so it's not necessarily all a bad thing. but when we're talking about influences before and we need to understand who these persons influences were it is possible to make it more difficult for people to access these kind of people who spin this tradition and rhetoric online or upload their speeches or and the document p.d.f.
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documents. but that's really all that you can do you can make it harder but you can't stop them because. the way that some of these people technically savvy that always find a fix and a wire around it but as i said before while there are advantages to law enforcement agencies with these things and the. as a terrorist or a an extremist or radical. the more dangerous because you understand what security precautions you need to take to stay under the ride and from all that we know about this person at the moment he was clever enough that he wasn't on anybody's ride or he was a solid travel. the country for a number of years the security agencies never had him on the ride out which is quite understandable matthew goodman should this be a wake up call then to not just the security services but to to to politicians that
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they need to be. because the criticism has been that. these white nationalist groups have been been kind of ignored for too long or just kind of dismissed as as . as a sideshow really as not a not a major threat it would this is this a kind of watershed moment well it's difficult to know and that's one of the sad things about where we are that we've had a number of mass attacks as you mentioned at the beginning of the program and yet we still find ourselves facing this question of is this are things going to finally change i think if you go back to twenty eleven twenty twelve and you look at the reaction to the attacks by the right wing extremist and as for a victim there was a i think a good example of of a democracy in that case norway responding quite positively to that attack it invested heavily in research it set up a new scent or it boasted security powers that allowed i think the debate to
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move all to looking at actually. what causes these attacks and to invest quite heavily in that but i think in other democracies you haven't really save that kind of investment in the off them off of an attack and i think that's one of the issues that we have to think about now which is not only does how does new zealand evolve from day soon i think the first debate will be how does new zealand changes gun laws and i think that's a sort of something that's a bit of a no brainer if you like for new zealand i suspect they'll do that quite quickly but it's actually how do democracies better tools themselves better equip themselves to do with some of these issues and i can say when i was on the u.k. government the most and major it one of my frustrations indeed the reason that i resigned from that group was that at that particular time the u.k. government wasn't serious about investing in this issue its sole attempts to tackle islamophobia more as being token estate because being symbolic but not necessarily
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putting the resources behind those initiatives in a way that would actually make them have an impact and i found that incredibly frustrating. how much you think is this down to fear of immigration you know what's been called a kind of demographic and fear fear of the other and so on. i think it's been absolutely essential and i think you know it's interesting when we've had this conversation regarding no terrorist suspects the return of us recruits you know government to the west is very very strident that was alarming becky what would have happened if you can't have a strain in present conversation because there is this there was even option to deport joe citizens we don't deal with that we don't want to make that our problem in this particular instance the terrorist is a stray there is no way to deport him this is a product of what i mentioned earlier a long systemic culture that his neighbor had this kind of thing to happen and
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rather than question where was he ready clients and look to attack and deal with that issue we had let me do he cricket's we do see progress there is not being based in response in fact you know in a believe in the us. in the be the reason to be astray should actually to running away from investigating right we suppress terrorism because it's a considered to be a viable area of research and already you know results have been allocated to islam it's terms of industry i don't even know what the situation is except we do know the intelligence tell us but i think it's in us and strayer that rightly terrorism is the largest growing form to mr terrorism in the country but we're not it's not it's not a sexy election still nobody wants to strengthen our borders against what the premises because it's a very uncomfortable things to write a shanahan i'm going to get what's going to be a last word to you how much of a role has immigration played in all of this particular case of australia.
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well and in this particular in this particular instance from what we know from the background of the person and the manifesto and perhaps the the sites that we know that he's been active on he certainly any immigration he certainly anti muslim he's a bigoted radical terrorist. now how do you. prioritize that in the list of priorities and resources that security agencies have it's a it's a very difficult question and there's been nearly one hundred since twenty fifteen been nearly twenty four day nearly one hundred people charge in terrorism offenses in the stride. and. right wing extremists account for one or two of those the rest are radical islamists or so when you have a government that has
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a finite number of rays or says they have to prioritize the threats that they that they perceive then unfortunately this person wasn't on the right are to really difficult juggling act so security agencies. good to have your with us we're going to have to leave it there. rodger shanahan and matthew goodman thanks very much for being with us and thank you for watching as always you can see this program again any time by going to our website al-jazeera dot com and for the discussion days of facebook page facebook dot com forward slash a.j. in size two you can also join us on twitter our handle there is at a.j. inside story from me has a seeker and the whole team nearby from. thank .
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for the bodies of their loved ones. hello i'm adrian for the good this is zero zero a live from doha also coming up israeli media identify a man wanted for stabbing and shooting a soldier in the occupied west bank. we take you to the arctic zip-it that promises to transport visitors back two thousand years for a glimpse of life in the middle east. the new zealand government has confirmed that it will tighten access to guns off to fifty people were shot dead during friday prayers at two mosques in christchurch from the us that just sent a says that her cabinet has agreed in principle to gun reform high powered rifles like those used in the attacks are expected to be banned. i've already made clear
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that number of new zealanders question the availability of military style simulator medic weakens in new zealand however i will be giving a more focused sim city of data house once we've worked through the in principle decision that cabinet has made today new zealand's most senior police officer says the threat level across the country remains high armed police have been deployed around schools businesses and places of worship the criminal investigation is new zealand's largest police believe the suspects print and term and carried out the attacks alone but may have had some support well tributes have been held for those killed this was the scene just a few moments ago in melbourne in australia where people gathered to pay their respects to the dead most families of those killed in friday's attacks are still waiting to get back the bodies of their loved ones al-jazeera zandra thomas visited one family to hear about the father and grandfather they lost. it was thirty six
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years ago that haji daoud nabil left afghanistan to live in new zealand a good country he thought in which to bring up a family three generations of that family are now grieving. has been his radical people the people here he doesn't care about our so my eyes but if the people my son using were easy why did reason why did they tell your local you further gone to the last. yama nabil dowd son had been heading to the mosque himself with his daughter when he saw people running the other way it was on saturday at the community center that he heard the list of names of those who had died. did not want to hear the question who would like to reach out and really. put the news was not good the gunman had murdered haji dowd nabil was.
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just saying. grief is now mixed with frustration the family would have liked to have buried house you doubt by now don't land in twenty four with the board it should be even the graveyard in place but actually. they did not eat the product it. people think should indeed. cation so you understand that allies gees. yama would like us father's killer to face the death penalty his brother disagreements he forgives the god not when he'll never succeed there's no way he will be helping is very and hippie. is unstable this is why he carried this on how can you forgive somebody look
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there's. confidence of knowing god my father is going to paradise but for the whole family the grief it's rule as well as his wife nabil had five children and nine grandchildren that's fourteen direct descendants now in mourning and these are scenes being repeated right across christchurch the flowers are the public displays of grief the private ones are going on behind closed doors andrew thomas al-jazeera cross church life to christ church understeer as wayne hay is there wayne what changes to the country's gun laws is the government considering. well the short answer is adrian officially we don't know yet the prime minister just spoke as you saw earlier after the cabinet meeting on monday in the capital
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wellington it was the first time that the cabinet members had come together since the attack on friday and they were going to discuss a whole range of issues related relating to what we saw unfold on friday at the top of that list gun laws that had already said would be changed so she emerged after that meeting and said that they agreed in principle to change the gun laws in new zealand it was a unanimous decision from the cabinet members none of them disagreed with that decision but she would not go into details of exactly what those changes would be we assume going by some of her previous common comments since friday that the main focus of those changes will be around the sale of semiautomatic weapons we know that brant and tara the main suspect in the attack the only gunmen involved according to the police used to semiautomatic weapons in those shootings but the suggestion from the police is that they were modified that he brought standard
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rifles legally from a gun shop and then modified them again legally using spare parts purchased from a gun shop so that may also be a focus of these new laws to crack down on the sale of parts that can be used to turn a weapon into a semiautomatic one when the prime minister has criticized social media platforms for not doing enough quickly enough to take down footage of the attack which still remains online. yes that is clearly another target of this government they believe that the social media companies facebook in particular whom they have spoken to since friday should be doing a lot more because live streamed his attack on the mosque says you say the video was available still available in many places and people have been sharing it right around the world commenting on it and while they're commenting on it. themselves in
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gauging in hate speech on many occasions and just under a durned the prime minister again feels that the social media companies should be doing more and i would like to make there is you know obviously this is the nonproliferation it's of of it's availability. one point five million times the fact that only one point two of those times has been automated tells me there of course are powers to take a very direct approach to instances of. speech that incites violence or that incites height and i would call on our social media platforms of all over. to demonstrate the kind of responsibility that both lead to these have been and that includes stars who capitulate the messages in the aftermath there's a lot of work that needs to be done. and it seems the new zealand government and
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the justice system here is moving quite quickly on this issue on monday we sort of eighteen year old whose name is suppressed appear in court and he is facing charges he was denied bail he's facing charges linked to his alleged sharing of the live stream of the attack and also a photo that he posted online all of one of the mosques where the attacks took place saying that target acquired that was the caption that he used underneath the photo of the mosque and he also posted the messages according to the police that were inciting extreme violence so it seems that the justice system here the police are going after people who have been sharing the live stream of the attack where many think some of those where they live in school the suspect is from australia the police there have conducted several raids as part of their investigation into the attacks. as more from sydney. the two properties belong to members of brenton
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tyrant's family one his mother and the other his sister police say they took both his mother and sister to a safe place for their own protection earlier today on monday and said that their system them with their enquiries police were also at pains to make it clear that there were no impending threats that they were just looking for anything that could support the new new zealand police in their investigation so it seemed as though it was just an evidence gathering exercise looking for anything that could help the investigation into the christ church attack now there isn't a lot that is known about brenton terence and his movements of the last few years these trailing government says that he's only spent forty five days here over the last three years he was most recently here for his sister's birthday about a year ago so it seems as though police are looking for any clues anything that
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could help them paint a more comprehensive picture of the alleged attacker. is the spokeswoman for the islamic women's council of new zealand she told us that she's always feared and attack on her community we. did feel a rise of negativity and the rise. through social media. through our experience and realize and we did raise those concerns. i think but also watching what was happening overseas in other countries and knowing that the world is now firmage more and to connected globally through social media and. we always had before that something could happen here. once the immediate needs of the community in christchurch meet and it will take some time yet there we need to be in been
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a lot of time working on the long term solutions that are going to take a lot of commitment not just from the government from but from the people in new zealand as well israeli media have identified the person suspected of killing in israeli soldier in the occupied west bank on sunday a manhunt is underway on a number of arrests of debate in the village where the suspect lives israeli media says the palestinian man stabbed a soldier took his weapon and fired at civilians outside the aerial settlement south of nablus he then escaped from the scene let's go live now to the mother of the zero bring him joins us live from there what exactly is israeli media saying about this man. so it's still a suspect at this moment but this really made you say that he's a nineteen year old palestinian from as we have village israeli army has actually they did that village.

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