tv Masoumeh Ebtekar Al Jazeera March 25, 2019 5:32pm-6:01pm +03
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stan we're seeing a lot of nationalism xenophobia on the part of government ministers is he going to get reelected with this kind of rhetoric and campaign do you think. quite honestly i don't think so because the situation here is that everything is in crisis farmers are in crisis universities are in crisis banks are in crisis courts are in crisis i don't think it's going to work and there's something else happened and something else may well have you have said in the past that the opposition party the congress party has quote done by night what the b j p modi's party does by day five years into this modi era is that really still your view of congress that they're basically all the same. that's a very tough question to answer you know because one looks back at the history of what the congress has done and you do. however the more it is not the problem
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or the representative of the most powerful organization in the r.s.s. with hundreds of thousands of volunteers it's a cultural that controls the b.g.p. it was set up in one hundred twenty five it has always maintained that the indian constitution is a horrible constitution it has always maintained that india should be declared a. nation so now we are in that sort of. politics and modis politics would you call that the hindutva of politics would you call that kind of politics fascist well the r.s.s. itself it's all ideologues have written so much in praise of hitler in praise of mussolini have called slim second class citizens have called christians and communists their enemies if you look at the games that have been played so far slug attacks the trail of dead of them. of lynchings you see fascism what else do you
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see isn't the really big problem for you and people who are opposed to modi modi still has the support according to the recent polls of the majority of indians you are in a minority is a critic of his is not the big problem. it's a problem but the. majority here it is. and fascist they have an awesome logic wall between them so in the last elections they proved that they didn't need muslims in this election they are going to try and prove they don't need. another cast equations in india something we haven't spoken about but the engine that runs this country and i don't believe i mean more they didn't come to power with a majority of the water anyway but you know there are thousands of people in jail today thousand kilos of. people who have been held guilty of massacring you know ninety people in the road up but here in two thousand and two.
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who was. couldn't drink to and who actually openly boasted on camera that he slit open a pregnant muslim woman stomach recently been released on bail whereas human rights lawyer professor activists indigenous people in their hundreds are injured and you'll solve were imprisoned in the past feel protests against the north. you've been very outspoken in your criticisms of both parties of the military of police forces of violence you've been criticized for that obviously you've been so mean you get death threats do you worry for your life. you know i have obviously careful you know i am somebody. who is protected by my readers in some ways that's all the protection that i have. it's happening to
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so many people you know people have been killed of course go to location so many others have been killed so it would be silly to oh i don't worry at all but all of us worry all of us up here for all the first step back sometimes for the first try to get this country. in the most intelligent way that we can and say we take care how we can when we can. already see roy thanks for joining me on out front. you're welcome. more than three million refugees an economy in freefall and more than fifty nations around the world including the us demanding the president stand aside to make way for the opposition leader venezuela is in a serious crisis so is it time for chavez's successor president nicolas maduro to step down or will the u.s. backed change in the government in caracas constitute
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a coup joining me to debate this venezuelan american lawyer and journalist who served as an advisor to the late president chavez and an american national security and foreign policy columnist for bloomberg who says regime change is the only moral option thank you both for joining me in the arena let me start with you it isn't just the u.s. you have canada france germany the u.k. the parliament venezuela's neighbors brazil argentina colombia ecuador they've all indorsed one as the new president the opposition leader in terms of both the global scene and the regional scene president maduro doesn't have much of the just a messy left as he is the current president of venezuela who's in power he's in the presidential palace he won an election last year under questionable circumstances that can be contested by the opposition they chose to boycott it for the most part but he is in power he has the support up until now. of the armed forces and at
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least at the higher levels and he has control of the state institutions so there is also support for him and. absolutely there are millions of venezuelans who have supported him and may not be content with the current situation in the country but don't support you know the kind of cool like situation that's taking place he's the elected president of venezuela he's in the presidential palace who cares what other countries think well i don't think he is the elected president of venezuela his election was didn't pass any kind of international muster almost all the countries that you mentioned did not recognize that election there were significant members of his opposition most notably leopoldo lopez who was in jail and could not run the reason that the opposition boycotted that election is because they had seen slowly but surely under nicolas menorahs reign you know an erosion and an attack on the very powers of you know venezuelan democracy particularly the national assembly which he basically neutered and then you know sort of revived an old form and
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called it his new legislature which you know undermined a very legitimate election in twenty fifteen when the as opposition is won a majority in that assembly that is the basis or the roots of this crisis so when we talk about is majority elected well i would say that the election that was held in twenty eighteen was not legitimate no one recognized him but you wouldn't deny that millions of men as well and still support this president would you sure there are millions of i mean though i do think that he is losing his support in the areas that were the strongest supporters of chavez in part because the entire economy is collapsing yeah there are millions of supporters he has far less i think legitimacy and popular jussi than he did before you wrote on twitter last month that quote regime change is the only moral option in venezuela right now you said coals for compromise a delaying the transition to democracy given that this phrase regime change sure i was speaking the week of the anniversary of the iraq invasion when invoked in the u.s. that phrase associated with iraq. would libya with hundreds of thousands of innocent
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people being killed should people in the u.s. really be talking about regime change in the same sentence as venezuela well i think that regime changes should be decent matteis i think it's the outcome that we're talking about the means by which i support regime change in venezuela is to have a new election under an interim government and for there to be you know a vote and whoever wins should do that there my my issue with majority in this particular context is not because i think the u.s. should invade venezuela as they did in iraq he has usurped power by staying past his first term and you know i don't recognize as most of the hemisphere doesn't recognize the last elections ok except i do you disagree with anything absolutely because you know regardless of my position which is which is critical there are millions of venezuelans who did go to the polls and vote for him and believe that he is there a lectern president so the fact that one why those who does who was also elected as
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a member of the national assembly the fact that he's claiming and that the opposition is claiming him primarily even though the other countries are involved in president in latin america and europe it's really the trumpet ministration that is pumping up the opposition they would not be able to take this as far as they have so far without that open and direct explicit and very aggressive support so i think that's a key factor because you may have venezuelans who don't want their president they would like change but they don't want to us intervention either absolutely not nor do they want to us puppet so they don't someone and they see trump in the same way that many people around the world see trump which is this emblematic you know figure of u.s. imperialism and capitalism ok well i'd like to bring i think that i would quibble with a very with one thing that you said just then which is that the original driving force of this entire process was a sort of venezuelan supreme court in mexico and what's known as the lima group which the u.s. is not a member of and so i. i would say that yes the trump administration by coming out
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and saying that they supported this but it was done in consultation with all of these other countries in the region but the other countries are the ones who might take military action you say you're not in favor of military action i don't think the u.s. will either but we know we know that donald trump and john bolton don't have an objection to minute are constantly saying that the options on the table i mean donald trump donald trump told the acting f.b.i. there why can't we go toward in venezuela quote they have all the oil and they're right on our back door that doesn't worry us size the certain amount of time since then that a military option is on the table he said he said it just the other day meeting with the president of brazil i mean if you want to do it and you heard that what would you buy i would i would say that i my understanding from reporting and i think there's been some some public statements of this is well actually from elliott abrams and stuff and so forth is that they say that all options are on the table in order to dissuade. from doing something rash such as attacking the u.s. embassy which is now in the u.s. is evacuating its personnel or from doing something like arresting why go in and as
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we saw this week we saw the arrest of his chief of staff so i think that in it's mainly a form of public diplomacy donald trump has shown in his broader foreign policy that he does not like. you know committing united states to wars in fact he'd like to brag about ending them we saw that in syria we've seen that from who you know afghans we've also seen him make very hawkish on iran and venezuela i'm just wondering how you mentioned elliott abrams i mean again if you're mature if you're of the venezuelan government supported you see the point man on venezuela appointed by the trump administration is the guy who was involved in central america under reagan with el salvador and death squads genocide in guatemala etc what i mean regardless of our own positions of and what to what message is that sending to people in boston threats of military action are not that's not diplomatic discourse that's war discourse so of course the you know the position of the venezuelan government of nicolas maduro is going to see that as a direct. fred why wouldn't there have been assassination attempts is it fair to
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say well i want regime change in venezuela but i don't support military intervention given the dura has the support of the defense minister and the security he's not going anywhere anytime soon so if you really want to get rid of him you would get behind a kind of trump bolton abrams regime change military i don't i don't think abrams and and olmert are spoiling for an invasion was he holding another. and they hear about it it's a form of psychological warfare but more importantly that never leads to real war that over the there are many or all more importantly more importantly i think he's trolling the press and trying to sort of send messages or more importantly i don't think scenes are very good for me dora right now even if you were the prime minister of canada you are the prime minister of the u.k. you're the president from and you see this humanitarian crisis you see this record number of refugees you see people taking to the streets protesting the government you see the opposition leader saying well according to my own study the constitution i can be interim president you've already said the election was flawed on behalf of your national government what are you supposed to do just avert your
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gaze what would you want not do i think absolutely there should be diplomatic pressure or there should be efforts to facilitate dialogue a negotiated process but again i mean there is a crisis in venezuela and not to down play or underestimate the experiences of any venezuelans going through hardships it is not a humanitarian crisis that we would call for example yemen it's not a situation where we're looking at a famine you know yes there have been more refugees or an exodus of venezuelans and ever before in history but a lot of those are economic refugees and that's again not to underestimate their own hardships but you know i mean there is still you go to venezuela and if you go to the remote regions you're going to see you know like more rural you'll see the impact of that crisis more but in the city you still got people there going i mean if you were to go visit today you would say what has the media been telling me i mean the hyperinflation in venezuela is the human absence or anything that will.
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there are many things wrong in that i mean we're good at this what is the solution going forward in terms of ending this crisis i would say absolutely there needs to be facilitated negotiation the side must take part in any kind of justice to one that will be close to what the end point of because it is a new election is there is a new directions that should take place at some point but to get your oaken content to get to get there well i don't think personally i don't think he should participate there are plenty of other candidates that should play a role but i think that the main point is that the us side must be included because it represents still to this day a majority of people in venezuela they cannot be excluded they cannot be repressed you disagree with that solution well i don't think it should be negotiations with period i think that the international community should remain strong and i think that there should continue to be carriage mean negotiations between many of the surveys to politicians many of the democratic opposition politicians and the leadership of the military to ignore the noise and to eventually come to an
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agreement that says that we are unified that we no longer when it doesn't work ruled by majority vote that we visit in six months well i think that over time in a day earlier a call for a recall referendum but then they'd have to recognize the legitimacy of his presidency but there is a figure in the constitution that would allow for his term to be recalled well have to leave it there. thank you both for joining me on the show that's our show up front with us next week. and that's because technological at the center. to live side by side. in its. life challenges kenya and up develop has to help small scale farmers cultivate a new future but can mobile phones really be the seed of change it was putting people into because it's all over the board people to go out silicon savannah on
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al-jazeera. a three year investigation into the program we've been employing it was me and you got to really. reveal secrets see you want to point. out there are people out there you know. and connections some don't want to expose snake in legacy media love the mass shootings. next week night al-jazeera investigations a massacre on al-jazeera. a rocket attack north of tel aviv israel's prime minister cut short his trip to the us to respond with force.
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i'm richelle carey this is al jazeera live from doha also coming up a close race in thailand parliamentary results show the military party in the late in the country's first also a coup five years ago. because democrats demand the release of robert mowers full report out for it concluded that donald trump did not come with russia in the two thousand and sixteen election and villagers starving in northwest kenya why the government's under fire for its response to drought. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu is cutting short a visit to washington after a rocket attack north of tel aviv israel's foreign ministry says it was fired from gaza seven people are reported to have been injured the strike comes just two weeks before israeli elections will fly back from washington in a few hours after bringing forward a meeting with donald trump stephanie decker joins us live from leicester is i'm
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seventy how significant is this. it's hugely significant why because of the the length the distance this rocket has traveled and also that it hit home as you mentioned there injuring seven israelis so it is hugely significant for at a time when there is a lot of tension here and of these elections that there's been a few responses already israel has closed the goods the main goods border crossing into gaza kerem shalom it's also closed the people crossing that say paris crossing and it's closed the water is not allowing palestinian fishermen to use the waters at the moment it's also sent to infringer divisions to the south of gaza calling up a limited number of reservists this is normal during times of tension but there is a huge amount of pressure on the benjamin netanyahu so he will be meeting donald trump a little later today and he will then be flying back to deal with how what kind of
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response they're going to decide to take so i'm assuming it will be some sort of multi-pronged response stephanie if you will multi-pronged approach what else might we say. well it really depends there's a language to these escalations for shell usually what will happen is you have a rocket attacked israel respond with multiple air strikes last the last escalation just two weeks go on hundred targets were hit but usually it is either empty land empty buildings no casualties and that's good lation in response could be something like seeing israel target the homes or positions of how mass leaders you could perhaps see what some of the talk in the israeli media this morning to former security people saying that perhaps what is needed now is a more forceful response including infringer including ground troops that will be a short lived harsher response to cut out the capability of how mass one of this comes at a time when there's been cease fire negotiations ongoing how mass is not happy with
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what is being offered by israel through egypt mediation and also the united nations so it is complicated it is at a time and as we say benjamin netanyahu is under huge pressure to do more so i think we're going to have to wait and see what kind of decision is made by the israeli security cabinet remember that prime minister benjamin also holds the post of defense minister he's currently out of the country so we're going to have to wait and see what is decided and what kind of response there will be a force to what i think that is pretty sure all right seventy dekker live for us in leicester as i'm stephanie thank you almost all of the votes have been counted in thailand's long awaited election it is a tight race between the main opposition party and its pro-military rival election commission says just more than sixty five percent of registered voters made their way to the polls this is the first time people have been able to vote since the military coup five years ago that heiler joins us live from the thai capital where the election commission has has already said some public things so what have we
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heard so far from the commission. michel we heard about an hour ago that they would be hosting. ninety five percent of the votes have been counted on officially they were going to release where they are now with that vote counting on their web site within the last couple minutes but it has yet to post you know what's interesting about this is you know this is been delayed several times sunday night election day we were told that we would hear unofficial results by the end of sunday luminary results that didn't happen we got rumors there were rumors and we got indication that there be some announcement made by the election commission monday morning that didn't happen no aleck's in plymouth area lexan results and then here at three o'clock which is about an hour ago at the election commission that's their offices right behind me they held a press conference but then they said in that press conference the results would come by our website at four pm that's now they're not there yet they have admitted
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that there have been some issues reported hundreds of issues reported they say that's going to take some time to investigate they also said that there is reported irregularities they're going to look at that as well and that's going to take some time to investigate but what we've been waiting for and what is kind of normal operating procedure is that they release pullin an area figures and that is what we're still waiting for we've seen kind of the numbers ticks through and as you kind of alluded to there the pro-military party polling plucks that out is leading the polls and. is behind them what's very interesting to see is how close they are and more importantly what happens from here. the prime ministerial candidate has already announced that they are going to start to talk to other parties to form a coalition within the parliament there are already starting that process even before we hear these numbers so clearly they feel as though they need to start to reach out and try to get in our eye when it comes to forming a government and also possibly getting as many many seats as they can in a coalition in parliament and the turnout we're saying finding it
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a sixty five percent are french for voters for some countries that's a that's a huge number but can you put that in perspective for for thailand. yeah absolutely yeah in some countries that would be a phenomenal number not here when there are two bodies of evidence for that one two pieces of evidence for that one is the election commission itself was predicting an eighty percent turnout based on early polling early surveying of registered voters over fifty one million registered eligible voters could have come out to cast their ballots on sunday sixty five percent of them did we also saw last weekend voters registered to cast their ballots early if they were in their constituencies if they were in their home province or if they were working or if there are a broad so the turnout for that was eighty seven percent so when you look at those two pieces of information in history it should have been higher than sixty five percent it was anticipated to be higher than sixty sixty five percent but it wasn't
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and the election commission really hasn't come up with any answers to that yet but just that that figure it was sixty five percent you know. bangkok scott thank you. a summary of special counsel robert muller support says the investigation found no evidence that donald trump's campaign colluded with russia during the two thousand and sixteen election u.s. president says he's been completely exonerated but the summary presented to congress by the attorney general william barr does not draw a conclusion on whether trump obstructed justice and democrats are demanding to see the full report reports a washington d.c. . it's the investigation us president donald trump has long condemned as a witch hunt intil it was released and now the president is cheering the findings there was no collusion with the russian there was no ups truck. and none whatsoever . and it was a complete and total exoneration that's not completely true the attorney general
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says there is no evidence the trim campaign coordinated with russian officials but on obstruction of justice the special counsel robert mueller didn't decide if you should be charged the attorney general made that call and in his letter to congress he made clear this report doesn't find the president didn't possibly commit a crime right in the special counsel states that while this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime it also does not exonerate him and that is democrats demanding answers jerry nadler heads the committee in congress that will be investigating turning general clark. who are different for his role you don't remember in the suggesting that the obstruction investigation was on punching people and then the president and then it was almost impossible for any president who committed rupturing of justice if he's the head of the executive branch made a decision about that evidence in nine hundred forty eight hours this included raise more questions than the answer given the fact that more uncovered evidence
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that in his own words does not exonerate the president he's promising to call officials to testify and vowing to get the tens of. thousands of pages of evidence that have been collected from the trump campaign was quick to try and use this to bolster his chances of re-election really see in this video evidence is pretty clear that there was collusion in the president's proclaiming victory but as congress pushes to make all the evidence public and with several other investigations ongoing he may want his supporters to believe it's over it isn't. al-jazeera washington. or has more on trump's reaction. when president donald trump arrived home at the white house after receiving the briefs on the summary from the attorney general he had only one thing to say to reporters america is the greatest place on earth he said and he took no questions a press secretary fills in the press a little bit more on what happened as the president flew home from our law go in
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florida he said that the president was feeling very good that he spent the time on air force one talking to his staff making phone calls and watching television and when pressed by reporters why trump continues to repeat that he was fully exonerated when in fact that is not what the report says the spokesperson said prosecutors don't exonerate they prosecute they do not prove a negative and seizing on that trump is continuing with his forceful message that he in his words was completely exonerated that's being repeated by his press secretaries and by his reelection campaign as trump has turned back to his full comfort zone of being in attack mode against the democrats he say who slandered his name but a more head on al jazeera including parts of western australia face the wrath of a helpful cycle. and we'll find out why mexico's president here promised to do more
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for the vulnerable is canceling social programs. and we think plenty of showers over the southeast in parts of asia at the moment quite a few of them have be making their way towards thailand there bangkok scenes of particularly heavy downpours but a bit of thunder and lightning as well the show is could return as we head through the day on tuesday one or two of them rather heavy but they know gradually choy in pull away towards the west as we head through wednesday so we could. just catch one or two but the majority of them are heading their way away from us further south a lot of showers here at the moment stretching across many parts of borneo and we're also seeing more make their way towards the philippines at the moment to even further towards the south and of course for some of us in australia it's been incredibly wet over the last few days for.
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