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tv   Kumi Naidoo  Al Jazeera  April 1, 2019 5:32pm-6:00pm +03

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as a strong democracy we have rules and the rule of law is above all the supremes called to cite decided to disqualify one of the members of the least want to become a member of the knesset used to be a member of knesset because he used their comments and by the way they disqualify and the jewish radical member of the knesset and they did not disqualify their alexander were very radical as well fair enough you are not going to get into the last thing about iowa other than i am asking you are you ok with the prime minister of israel allying with a party that backs the contests a terrorist group that backs a part of wants to bring into government a party so extreme that this little was done for money. let's not stick to the fact the prime minister never said that he wants to bring them into the government and the prime minister when you look at the history the prime minister for the last thirty years and you can see the government he put together in the last thirty years it was laughable so he's not resigning saxman jewish woman jewish power in
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cabinet as has been reported widely in the israeli press. i haven't heard that deals with. those very radical. mention but at the end member of being elected in israel and we should let the public decide who they want to be in the knesset the american jewish committee the a.j.c. apac the lobbying group you spoke up this week your strongest allies in the us have called jewish power a racist and reprehensible party why is the prime minister dealing with this party why is he welcoming them why is he allowing them to do in union with the jewish home the prime minister said one thing the disparity and one for the knesset like a divide equal our parties allowed to run for the knesset and the superior court is the one to decide whether you are allowed to run or not to allow to and you didn't say that they will be part of his government if you don't say more than that you want to respond up the ante whose leader has called for the expulsion of arabs
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another party whose leader said there should be segregated maternity wards between palestinian and jewish mothers you're not embarrassed linking it with simultaneous . our democracy allows radicals to be in the knesset in the parliament when i would have. heard. kerry's supporting hamas supporting the law so. we accepted that it was uncomfortable for us but we allowed that this instance of our democracy and it goes both ways if you can allow our. country to be in the knesset you can allow law to come for the right to be in the knesset but others who would limit the the line you keep talking about radicals right at apac this week you spoke at the apac convent policy conference in washington d.c. you were attacked us democratic congresswoman omar for controversial criticism of apac some of which he's apologized for you said quote if you have people that use that kind of language eventually i think the public needs to remove them from
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office some would say danny down on shouldn't the same apply to you you've called african asylum seekers in israel infiltrators you've called them a national plague you've called for them to be expelled nothing in how o'mara said it's come anywhere near to that kind of dehumanizing rhetoric that you've used. so are some of the quotes you mention are not correct but speaking troll is correct i think i have seen this fact that you have seen congress the public to decide whether they should continue or not same in israel if the public saw that i am my views are not correct they wouldn't elect me again and again and again and i think today when we see what's happening in the us when you have radicals is going anti-semitic language and speaking of the jews he'll do our loyalty this is embarrassing imo is an embarrassing when you refer to african asylum seekers as infiltrators and a national plague so i don't think i said what you just mentioned and if you will
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find it i would be happy to everything you did you take to the you started on a rally in twenty twelve in south tel aviv as are all the arabs the infiltrators are a national plague and we must deport them translational i regret those comments and sure i'm sure if you have a two day technology i would be very happy if you can show that when i say that everything is taken today so you cannot deny it i don't recall saying what you just quoted yes it was reported you knowledge about everything which is reported is true but i think yes we should allow the public to decide about that when you have entered a semites in congress i think we should expect that the public will push them away isolate them and denounce them cutting down on thanks for joining me on that front . thank you very much marty. after a twenty two month long investigation into one of the most obsessive lee covered stories in the us media the special counsel investigation into possible collusion between the trouble campaign and the russian government in the twenty sixteen u.s.
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presidential election is now over and according to trump's attorney general the president is in the clear no collusion no obstruction of justice but is that the full story don't we need to see the full robert muller report or was this just a massive failure by trump media joining me to debate this our journalist in russia great critic aaron maté who's called the collusion allegations and conspiracy theory and david cay johnston a pulitzer prize winning journalist and author of the book it's even worse than you think what the trumpet ministration is doing to america david aaron thanks for joining me in the arena david can i start with you it looks like it's all over apparently robert muller did not conclude that anyone in the trump campaign quote conspired or coordinated with the russians in interfering in the elections that was supposed to be the main purpose of the investigation trump has been given the all clear you in the media the democrats you got it all wrong well actually bill
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bars latter. that trump is not exonerated on obstruction of justice and he flames the issue of collusion in terms of the russian government the russian government operates off and through all of darksome cut outs and other people who aren't directly the russian government so we need to see the mahler report you've repeatedly called the russia great story a conspiracy theory is it now all done and dusted for you or does david have a point. well i certainly agree with david that we should see the full report but the fact that we haven't seen it yet i don't think should be used to deflect from the fact that muller has just permanently debug the conspiracy theory his mandate was to uncover ties between trump and the russian government in a bid to influence the two thousand and sixteen election the bar report makes clear that he did not and i don't think that bar was macare was amiss characterizing robert mueller robert mueller who has the integrity. of
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a marine we've been hearing about for two years about how great he is i don't think robert mueller would sit by so i think his the fact that here's what i don't get out of it as you say we've been hearing about him being a marine in great integrity for a couple of years but i follow your twitter thread you and i tool called line you be one of the big critics of people who've been bigging up for two years until he suddenly says something you agree with and now you're saying well we don't need the full report to come to a conclusion that this is all done in what you said last july and i quote you. we should not just believe well as claims now on faith without concrete evidence that's exactly what you've been doing since sunday isn't it. i've been believing that if robert muller had found evidence of a conspiracy he certainly would legit he would indict somebody for it and in a report in which he's investigating a trump russia conspiracy if he had found evidence of it he would say that there was a trump conspiracy but he says in his report that he found no that there was no collusion
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found and obviously i am waiting to see the full report i can't wait to see the underlying evidence i just don't think it's going to provide people with the with the fuel for the narrative that they're thinking i think that even if anything ok what do you mean credibility david if people and you'll side of the argument to put it crudely how did so over reg the putting on us cable news and elsewhere you went on t.v. a few weeks ago i believe called donald trump a kremlin agent that was absurd even before the model report came out to suggest that you have said i corrected that i didn't realize i'd said agent i said asset and i do believe it is a little bit of a lot of negatives that even without a rating either a poll wasn't even signed a contract to work for russian intelligence that's over again even though what we know. in the meaning in the intelligence world of the asset donald trump is an asset he is what the old soviet called a useful idiot he has carried the water of the kremlin repeatedly on things like attacking nato and other positions now the world isn't black and white there's lots
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of grays in here but all these roads keep leading back to the kremlin and to russia but the underlying important point here is we only know what bill barber spin is on the facts bill barr without being dishonest can put a spin on this that helps the person who put him in office after he had addition for that point and that's what we need to focus on i am to miller or do you trust a man who was appointed attorney general specifically to undermine this whole investigation represents the most dishonest president probably in the history of the united states do you trust his full page summary of a several hundred page report i think he only quoted sixty full words from the mother report you trust him it's certainly not the final say and we have to see a full report i totally agree i have to respond to what david just said because i think it exemplifies a dynamic that underscores how problematic russia gate has been so i david says that trump is a useful idiot of the kremlin and repeatedly does their bidding in this effort to
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to sustain our conspiracy theory that trump and russia are in cahoots we have ignored all the actual things that trump has done against russia all of which have seriously escalated tensions between these two nuclear powers pulling out of the i.n.f. treaty thereby setting off basically a new nuclear arms race trying right now is trying to overthrow ally in venezuela is trying to stop a vital german russian gas pipeline and you can go on and on and on that are you know what all those are all good at playing our air i'm david baron i agree with you the world is not black and white donald trump will do things that are contradictory all people do the world isn't black and white and keep in mind donald trump is totally incompetent. to be president so when you look at his actions what you were argument there again or if you know all that let me add all of that let me introduce an argument here that you mentioned you know donald trump is kind of the whole key stuff he's done in russia and you're right to raise that we've raised that on the show as well but on the other hand you also then have to knowledge the
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stuff he's done that doesn't make him look like a quote unquote useful idiot he stood next to vladimir putin in helsinki and said i trust president putin over my own intelligence agencies he says he didn't interfere in the election i agree with him surely our and by the way aren't you yourself spent the last couple of years pooh poohing the idea that the russians interfered in the election bubble that the manual now quoting to do a victory lap says that they did interfere so shouldn't you own the fact that david side got stuff wrong in collusion you got stuff wrong on russian interference in wiki leaks look think about the merits of that argument just because a prosecutor might get it right on one thing doesn't mean that they've got it right on the other you can hear them and you basically cherry picking to the bits you know i'm not sure you know what he just said was because he got to write all the stuff i agree with he doesn't mean he's going around the stuff i said do you disagree with the other conclusion let me just be clear for our viewers do you disagree the conclusion mother says specifically that they'd according to paul i do not think i do not dissimilar let me finish no determine that there were two main russian efforts to influence the twenty sixth election do you dispute the line from
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you know i don't dispute it so you are for the media suggesting that well no no a second minute first of all you're not characterizing my views of the last two years correctly and let me lay them out now my point is simply you have to assess each case on its merits i've assessed all the evidence to date for a trial conspiracy i've been arguing for two years that it's not there apparently felt the same ok all the available evidence i've seen undermines the case for it and now we have the conclusion from muller that it did not happen again i can't wait for the final report david briefly to respond to that i think there's a real simple issue here donald trump has the authority to make every word of this report public just the way the starr report was entirely made public why isn't he using his power to do so that's all we need to know it lest we see every word of that report. why are we seeing it when donald trump has the power to release a report that he claims exonerates you are in is not we have to define donald trump and i have
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a report that gives me complete and total exoneration as he tweeted earlier this week why they go into such desperate lengths to say it'll never be published you'll never see you'll just get a ball summary why it's way there but they're not saying that maybe they're not saying that trump is that he wants the four report released and barra said they were going to release that they're going to. turn intelligence you know very well right now republican senate is going out of their way round the pole just this week mitch mcconnell to block the publication of the full report you know that are. blocked democrats are going to drive now to make it public ok listen i would love for trump right now to make the fall for why isn't what i don't want to listen to why you know the the official story is that they're going to get really don't you know are you i don't care about the official story why do you think he hasn't released the report because i think they're going through right now to redact parts that they feel are sensitive we've heard about what a sensitive counterintelligence investigation this is so i'll tell you what they're saying about redacting sensitive parts is plausible i mean i can't prove they are
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going to add all faith in the trumpet ministration ira not say david cay johnston thank you both for joining me in the arena we'll have to leave it there this debate is certainly not over that's our show up front will be back next week. thank. you.
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all jews are. with and for your. i am a fish every weekly news cycle brings a series of breaking stories and then of course there's donald trump told through the eyes of the welts jannah least that's right out of a hamas script that calls for the an aisle ation of israel that is not what that phrase means i joined the listening post as we turned the cameras on the media
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focused on how they were caught on the stories that matter the most embed is a free palestine a listening post on al-jazeera. the opposition in control of turkey's capsule city and istanbul could follow president or to watch parties suffer as a local elections. watching al-jazeera lie from a headquarters and i'm doubting obligates also ahead it's still not satisfied the algerians keep up their demand for reform even after a government shake up. why the woman who pleaded guilty to involvement in the
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murder of kim jong un's half brother will be freed from jail next. boss but as well as government unveils a thirty day plan to russian electricity the working day is reduced but the president says it will maintain scout's water supplies. hello turkey's election she says the opposition is in the lead in is stumbles mayoral race and account that's been described as too close to call losing turkey's largest city would be a significant blow to president. our party which was beaten and most of the ten largest cities the opposition has already won ankara. today is a big day when justice was served when uncle won we deserved what we got with the digital votes of one kind of peoples the winner is all along on the loser today. so while our two one wasn't on the ballot the vote was widely seen as a referendum on the at party's dominance for nearly two decades and has already
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admitted his party has lost the hearts of some parts of the country but because. every victory and every loss is the will of our nation and we have to accept this fact as a necessity of democracy we will admit that we want people's hearts in cities we won but we were not successful enough in cities we lost and we will act accordingly let's meet our correspondent jamal you're joining us from istanbul so it seems like it's a close race for istanbul jamal what are the latest updates. well accounts are still being made there are a few boxes as of monday morning this hasn't been opened however the latest statement that came from the official electoral commission was that the candidates of the opposition in memo knew was leading been a legal dream that's the anchor party's candidate from the former prime minister by
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roughly. twenty odd thousand votes now. left conceptualized stumble on the results so far the reason maybe get a clearer picture stumble as you mentioned the largest city you're talking about roughly twenty percent of the turkish population it is the most cosmopolitan city here in turkey and it is also significant to the act party who have controlled it since the one nine hundred ninety four so even before they came to power nationally the mayorship of somebody in the council was always under their control so for a very very long time it is the birthplace of one's political career and where he launched himself on to the national stage so it has huge significance from that respect as well as the fact that since this became a presidential system here in turkey the mayorship probably stumble became probably the second most important elected position after the presidency because you can no
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longer elect a prime minister and therefore this is something very significant and that's why that's important but away from istanbul if we look at it nationally speaking yes there are polls there has made some losses in the larger cities like and charisma or has always been a stronghold for example of the opposition however there has been let's say a division in terms of those results that aren't necessarily consistent so in ankara whilst the mayor has gone to the opposition the actual council the majority of council members remain party members and therefore on the national scale the policy is still very much the largest party there but very close. we're signs of discontent amongst the electorate very clear warning signs being made by them losing significant positions like anchorage and quite probably stumbled under the want of course not on the ballot jamal but why is this a vote being seen as a referendum on the act party. but they've been in
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power for so long the renin any poll that takes place is always billed as that sense it would in every democracy really whenever there is an election it is definitely a referendum on the popularity of those in power but arguably what's more of a test isn't necessarily the popularity of the one but actually how functional is tarkus democracy there's always been this criticism that's a good one is an authoritarian or for a tarion leader that democracy is being eroded the fact that he is parsi has lost uncle and will probably lose some boys as well fact goes by smoothly then are one will be sure to show that yes whilst and he's already said this in his statement while he's lost this it shows that sucker's democracy has won and that those who have claimed that he's an autocrat so obviously he would say is not correct and therefore it's more important to look at it from how functional turkish democracy is how the what's there was
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a risk to the pluralistic nature of turkish society in texas politics if indeed the opposition is able to maintain those gains and that the food isn't actually isn't out so function peacefully and smoothly than actually that would be a much more of benefits through turkey than the continuous dominance of one party or another ok jim i'll say ah thank you. protesters have been back on the streets of algeria capital hours after a new caretaker government was named local media is reporting that eighty two year old president on that ozzy's was a flicka is now preparing to quits millions have rallied for six weeks demanding was a ficus resignation saying his health means he's no longer fit to lead victoria gate and be reports. if president abdelaziz bouteflika and his back is thought a government reshuffle would be enough to satisfy millions of algerians demanding political change these crowds were a first sign they'd misjudged the mood of protest as. a statement from the
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president's office was read out on state television announcing a new can take a government it's the latest in a series of concessions by beautifully which have included a promise not to stand for a fifth term critics say it's another unsuccessful attempt to split the opposition and defuse the protests to get to this point and then split up or turn around is not really a possibility at least not a possibility that i've been hearing about or seen no matter what differences you know no matter the different orientations of the people whatever the advocate for there the goal is still the same the only thing that we unite on at this point is that the system needs to go away the new cabinet is headed by prime minister nuri day modally who himself was appointed just three weeks ago. only six of twenty seven ministers from the outgoing cabinet have kept their jobs they include deputy
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defense minister and the chief of staff. on saturday he repeated his call for eighty two year old beautifully to be declared unfit for office and wound his opponents not to undermine the military. the analysts say there's been confusion and incoherence among algeria's ruling elite about how to respond to the crisis it's pretty clear that the people on the street don't want to replace tweedledee with tweedle dum they want a complete comprehensive radical transformation of algerian politics away from authoritarianism and toward a real democracy and how they'll be able to obtain that you know remains to be seen what's clear is the cabinet reshuffle falls far short of what protesters have been demanding and could lead to even larger protests in the days and weeks to come. to be al-jazeera let's not get an update from assad about it he's joining us now from tuna so to what extent is the announcement of this new caretaker government
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a concession by those ruling elites in algeria. it was swiftly dismissed by the opposition by the human rights activists as an attempt by a president with a lid and his entourage to buy time just to give you an idea about the confusion within the political elite a few weeks ago he appointed. president appointed not of the embed we as prime minister and that on palamara work has been his top political adviser as deputy prime minister and minister of foreign affairs and he was here until yesterday in tunisia and then on palomar was sacked in this new government think it was an attempt by the by the political elite to say that they are desponding to the concerns of the people and back fire just to remind our viewers president of the us suffered a massive stroke in two thousand and thirteen and was ever since incapacitated by
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how well we do understand that the most powerful man ever since has been his brother. able to feel a whole has been also one of his top political advisers so what we see now in and syria in fact is a power struggle between two key players i met a guy in the hallways the army chief and army chief of staff an army commander and say what of the on the other hand who has been widely seen by even the opposition by many people in nigeria as the algerian strongman so where does this stand leave algeria and how likely is it that this crisis just simply persists. so over the last forty eight hours media affiliated with president sarkozy was a flea and his entourage and also some politicians of voice are floating the idea of president would have resigned announcing his resignation today or tomorrow
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it could be a move by them to offer him a dignified exit strategy because of his legacy if that doesn't happen i think it would further complicate the political situation and push the army to move ahead with the triggered in article one zero two of the constitution of the only problem with this particular article is that it would pave the way for. that to who is the senate president to become interim president of syria and the consensus among us is that this man is has always been affiliated with our allies would have it and one of his our collides and therefore people don't want to see him in power if there is a consensus i think the mice come up with a new face trusted by the algerians to lead the country for a new transition but i have to say the crisis has hit a tipping point where we're expecting major decide this issues to be made in the near in the coming days because the impasse cannot further continue all right tasha
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had better thank you a woman accused of murdering the half brother of north korea's leader will be freed from a malaysian president next month after dawn p. huang admitted a lesser charge of causing her thoughts she was sentenced to three years and four months but will be released soon due to time already served the vietnamese woman was accused of poisoning can dynamic an airport in kuala lumpur two years ago her lawyer says she should never have been charged. in our mitigation earlier what we thought of that. one was both naive and gullible mr y. and mr no money exploited these witnesses and many many believe that. perform the evil design under the game of large green.

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