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for me one of those like a ha moments of understanding what those consequences are was actually years ago i have a sister that's younger ten years younger than me and we were on this trip with different families was just me and her and then different random families and we were together for a week and it was a dinner and we were all talking about whatever small talk and i was twenty two at the time someone asked me what do you do in the military which is normal is really small talk on recession and just before i answered i saw my sister kind of her face turning into this really like the we have to get in this argument again like does it have to be like this every time we just not just be normal you know and that's part of what being a dissident in different ways means saying no we can't ever just be normal.
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in lebanon israeli society is the default. is choosing to be different and to define yourself as different and it has different consequences that are beyond prison. choosing to be an outsider that is the problem there it's just a feeling that's there and it's and it's heavy and sure but it's nothing. right i did that for a few months. indians sit in prison before they're even convicted in most cases just for the duration of the trial and for years on when they are sent straight don't you think that these measures make the people of jews in fisi fish but building walls or in more like a military police the we live in the state of fear and we are told to continue to be afraid regardless of what the reality is and i think that this is very strong
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within the israeli mentality i mean security we need to be strong we need to have. we need to be always in control and so on it's also very evident within the education system the holiday system and so on even when you ask israeli officials what is it about the wall that had to do with security like israeli security officials say very clearly the world doesn't prevent people from coming in inequality is inherent part of the city forty percent almost of the city or are not citizens of the state they don't have the the right to vote to be elected but more importantly they can lose that that's what zionism looks like and yours because that's what the state looks like leverage that is the key thing we need to create it's passing resistance and we can hope that that resistance will be popular and will not be you know armed and things of the sort when we topple a boycott campaigns about divestment campaign is about creating different
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frameworks of power that palestinians have to leverage to tell israel you want this to end you want this to change ok let's go to the table let's talk about what you get for that that's not the discussion that's happening today. the first thing that struck me really the heavy weight of history that everyone here bears and somehow feels that you know people who live in jerusalem comes from time into their lives just to carry the burden of its history. i think honest in yours or. many in eastern slow face pressure on us threats to or to move out. but if i can take the opportunity of this interview and speak
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through you directly to them i would say despite the cost and despite the difficulties do not give up never give up because palestinians are not people who are coming through this land and just just renting their apartments or their houses for a short period of time before they move on their part of this land they're part of this landscape when the far i would have patron founders of said is bishop desmond tutu little from south africa and the as this famous saying that says it's an elephant is that being on the mouse and you leave it for the elephant and the most the figured it out you're taking the side of the elephant and this is i think most of us palestinians we feel the international community observing us while we are on the margins and we need help with asking help and you're right to do that you're absolutely right to to to demand that from the international community not just to ask for it in any context this would never be
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a negotiation between equals so how much should we as palestinians or can we we feel we are drowning and we refuse to drown i think all that. that's a question that your postings have to answer and for you we would. welcome to the african the president of the office think it's always good to see. you on a consulate here this is not really a state so we call it in south african the president of the office of the but resents and it's an embracing of an embassy. we see the occupation part of what we supposed to be doing is hosting palestinians home most palestinians i can host them at by a distance but of us batalla d.
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is to host people at all in essence and also as part of our diplomatic work but we had tonight that fundamentally south africa's did what was called the peace the arctic front. those that oppose departed came together and we realized they were common principles and i think palestinians have to realize they have more in common than that which divides them interestingly. those so called tele said we're a people now line up to meet us people want to benefit from our experience and even the international communities and i wouldn't name countries who have asked us to engage palestinians cross the border but don't you think the international community when it comes to south africa that is he more is racist and it had to go away and there was strong solidarity with comes to us palestinians it seems israel has impunity we had the masses of our own destiny at the end of the day yes it is true international solidarity did play
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a role an important role in terms of boycotts sanctions and whatever else and isolation of apartheid south africa but if it wasn't the south african collective who took to the streets the palestinians have to work as a collective you have a mass movement in eugene is really a party i mean gauge people in terms of the common values that we have in terms of dignity in terms of human rights in terms of democracy and these common values would bring us together. underneath the golden dome of today that has to be respected is the foundation stone of the world. and yes there is something there today. just let me see. sin every religious jew believes that one day in the future there will be the third temple and we're told that by our prophets was saying in the deserts bloom the in getting the exiles we have returned
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home but there are some things that in the hand of god so the third temple itself very much in the same position that abraham attempted to sacrifice isaac with the first temple was of king solomon and the second temple will also be the third temple but there are some things a hand by god not in man's hand having a jew go to the temple mount today to pray to walk around the holiest place the jewish people in a place that mohammad never visited the first temple existed seventeen hundred years before the dome of the rock was even build some things the process has to be left to god the bruises began with the fall of the. nothing to the temple mount there's only one tunnel and it's a parallel to the western wall nothing to do with the temple man itself it's absurd he steria from the arab world are people concerned about the illegal era building on the temple mount that's a disgrace and yet they've managed to get away with the a huge mosque on the temple mount destroying things the second temple period that's
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something that should be discussed not what the jews do walking on the outside of the temple mount. the jewish people have some responsibility to act in a certain way in accordance to the laws that were given by the bible itself it's very difficult for me to know exactly today as many rabbis found it difficult to know exactly what was the specific thing. the god was and with the jews about. the end of people that know the future a prophets and fools and i'm neither. one
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of my favorite places to be here in jerusalem without a doubt is this kargil the old roman road that used to look like that. as a place in israel for christians or muslims anyone we're not talking about sovereignty can't compromise on sovereignty no what hands away their homeland this is not a multicultural democratic side this is not another astray at all or america or france or england no this is a jewish day for the jewish people. so we are now in the can he still pm it which translates to the church of that is that action every the very early in the morning the muslim families would open the doors of the church because the church is divided by different christian denominations
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and there was a dispute on who should have the keys for the for the door so they divided the church but when it came to the consensus the agreed on and on the muslim families they knew that these muslim families are one respect that just look right now i mean as for the seniors both you as a christian and i as a as a muslim we had a very very tiny minority now when we are sitting you know where it's just like. as if this is not our space. in the. first we used to worship in this church this church just called the center of the world because a fourth of the importance of the empty tomb of christ for some centuries we have been forced. to make space for graham's foreigners and we were moved to one of the churches outside the complex of the church of the resurrection the same thing at
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a much more sport example and no tourists would be you know turned away if they would just go through the metal can gate but there are restrictions on muslims even those who have risen in my view with evidence is shipped my nephew and my niece their dream is to come to jerusalem they don't have a permit their dream is to come to the church of the holy supplicant. they are guys that they are trying to judaize sa east jerusalem you are the only one that can save this city and if you will not do it it now they fear that in the future will not be now seemed too safe because they said to live they are working secretly systematically and they are taking everything they can so you should do so sensi it medically is that the city is under. the respect.
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it was one of the thousand earth of a settlement in the gaza study. oh. this and i was one of the found there was of. it's incredible a field during these days so for old to be a settler he takes. the do years before you realize that something it doesn't wark each ideology has a price and the prize that we are paying for their ideology of the great israel. is is too much is too much.
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three months after i arrived in entering into the army to go to the army because they say that this is my are all zionist should go to the army and fi for the country. knocked over seventy two he you know the young people war started two weeks after a pause in jericho in front of the feared egyptian army in cia. who was in an ospital for a separate mance when i start to look around me in the c.b. die. there is the day news there are sounds or sounds that they lose their fathers then they started the process dad a take me from the right to being due to the left to desire an east left of the
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beginning and after then to do the known zionist left this is the blaze where i am now it was very hard to me to leave my right wing friends i change my mind but they couldn't change may sashi group and it takes one year before i say ok no more right wing. it's easier to change your man ain't down to change your social environment i was alone in this in the country. we've been travelling for a week and we've seen all the reality on the ground in jerusalem it's miserable you've met the politicians busy. there is no you meet the united nations they see that there's nothing we can do it is up to you we must but it means resilient we must overcome justice for the palestinians and of the occupation join the civil
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society of the palestinian community initiatives like economic sanctions economic measures interesting document should make b.d.s. and so on we cannot give in to the powerful is that i really decision makers and their allies that trumps and the powerful in the world we must come together we all will not only for us or for jerusalem. or allegiance but for of a future generation. empires come and go but the people remain in the air this is the story with what has happened throughout every empire across the palestine they have disappeared and became ruins but the people still stand. what began as a small extremist group in africa's most populous country we learned that thanks and directed from the government to just shoot soon turned into
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a battle front for the nigerian government tatar yeah why. the tourists for abducting more than two hundred schoolgirls the killing and displacement of thousands of people al-jazeera investigates the origins of the rise of iran on al-jazeera. however there is still some rain in iran but it's nothing like the amount there was the last of the significant rays disappearing after of constant the next clouds coming across is by no means as active doesn't mean bone dry i think you produce one or two showers maybe not in iraq now that started to come from the system this is from a line of green running through almost the north of iraq and syria through eastern turkey towards georgia the breezes following incident cooling of late so ninety degrees in beirut but in the sunshine same is the case for aleppo and nothing much
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changes units on thursday that green is still there drifting into the western side of iran south of it where the flooding still is there's no more rain to come your notice of us around this time is dry but the clouds are probably is of note for want to places there's not much breeze driving and i think this crowd covers southern pakistan back towards qatar in the middle of society that's prone to produce other outbreaks of lightish rain with big drops or even thunderstorms and that's true for both wednesday and thursday it's not moving very far as you can see rather more active weather is still to be found on the eastern side of south africa and extends into mozambique. the official story is unfair and unfair we all sure you don't care about the official story what has the media been telling join me near the house and all the help from my guests from around the world take the hot seat and we debate the
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