that additional momentum to the protest movement and do you feel that the men turn on that protest movement as what swung the army and while they are the army is an oil t. away from our. i think it's been a key determinant and we've seen that again we're not we're not we can't talk about the army now or still as a monolith but we we have seen that the middle ranking officers those for example that haven't had the political benefits or the elite benefits that some of the high ranking officers in the army we've had we've seen them supporting the protests of course you know they would have family members who were protesters you know not divorced from those who were sitting you know hundreds of yards away from them and so they've provided support for them and you know there has been a form that's grown over these last few days in terms of providing that support

against that that the militia forces have been trying to disperse the protesters and i think yes we are seeing every action there full to that reality that growing in reality when you see the i guess the literally. all inspiring shortage of the strip where tens of thousands of people have gathered and continue to gather to demand change and reform and that. he can tell us from london from tasso house thank you. well let's tell you what we know at this stage sudanese state television says the army will make an important announcement soon there are also reports that military vehicles have been deployed to kill roads and bridges hundreds possibly thousands of people are out on the streets celebrating in the capital khartoum and there are reports that khartoum airport has now been closed joining us here in our doha studios modules wherry he

is a professor of contemporary middle east history at cashel university thank you for joining us here on the set marjorie let's start with all these pictures of seemingly thousands of people out on the streets and celebrating was this inevitable given the numbers that we were seeing ten hours over the last few days but the sentence in the last ten days it was obvious there was a shift on the movement in sudan that shift started with the military changing its own course actually toward the demands of the people that was a gradual shift they were testing the water to try to check how other political elites how they will behave. it was obvious since the people went out to criticize in the region calling for the she had to step down calling for reform there was no action has been noticed spawns from that is actually accusing people of being you

know corrupted or being actually dominated by the outsiders in the state of listening to the demands of the people there were actually were were hijacked by or accused of being anti sunni now the military in the last ten days has decided that there is a shift and they actually they made that decision they made the decision and the actually. the demand of the people what we saw what happened in the last twenty four hours it was obvious that. demand has increased the number of participants of the people has increased as well there was more of that action to the military in part of the leadership in particular and i think that put more pressure on the military institution as a whole for that reason i think they felt the heat and they have to make action it seems to me the action has been made last night and the military has decided that the president should step down because there is no other opportunity to maintain

the stability of the country that's i think what we assume that decision which i made last night. they are you know trying to have. but that our arrangement to announce that because this will have ramifications whether. regionally and internationally i think there are some arrangement now is happening soon we will hear about it in a matter of hours well much of when our hearing some unconfirmed reports that the head of the ruling party and former vice president have been detained and well i'm sure we'll be hearing much more about this in the coming hours and i'm curious let's start talking about what bashir options are at this point he does have an i.c.c. warrant out for his arrest and what what do you see as as his potential choices here i think i think you know. had the choice to made in the last i would say a month to may actually to listen to the amount of the people and to become the

hero to the sudanese and step down now i think your last options now there is you know he has this for several mouth sight and i think now you know i was told before i get to this to do that actually he was he was told that to stay home and the decision would be made about his future whether actually you know take be arrested or actually other options so i think the new government then you i would say interim government has to decide about his future because it has to respect international law so that should be more complicated i think that's was the first challenge that a new interim government or a transitional national government trans national government will will face they have to decide how to deal with the bishop in particular and secondly they have to . do this to send a very clear message also the sudan e.-s. who actually asked for for this demand because military did not think to have this

change actually the military was working with the president was protecting the president now they are saying we are in favor of the people now they have to convince the people that are actually working on the favor of the people demand and they want to change the situation and this isn't the first time it's happened there in sudan and sudan has a history of prizing action and talk us through some of that and is this is this part of a passing here or is there something different that we're saying you know. you know as someone who's teaching history about the region we assume that twenty first century would be different to the arab world you know this is the century of you know technology information open world it we always see we always say that the world's a small village it seems there are still trends you know do not want to disappear you know these kind of trends like what we see today and so that we know from the beginning that the. only strongest to touche and so that is the military that what the president himself did actually he's think that institution he pushed this is to

to say he supported this institution to protect himself rather than the protect of the country let's not forget this is a president who was in charge when the sudan has been divided into two countries that's the legacy of our model bashir says that he will never forget that lost it is a source of energy and was given outside and the people are suffering economically because of this so he he actually supported this institution and instead of support of the civilly democratic institution part sees. the constitution more open the platform to the people he supported the institution which decides today has a future and that is that what happened in the seventy's and sixty's and eighty's when he came to power himself so these are not listen to either not learn the lesson of the history lesson of history says he should learn from the previous experiences and he should step down early and if that is decided what is the future for much of let me ask you about the tipping point then for the military as you say

that their relationship with bashir has changed dramatically just in the last few days what was the thing that pushed them over the edge was it about the nature of this protest movement and who was leading it or was it about share numbers two things since two thousand and ten do is a trend in the arab world as a horde which is the peaceful and civilized discourse of other people if you go back to the first demand of the arab in sudan and in tunisia other countries the demands were very simple people they want to fight corruption they want to fight for the thirty one ism they want to platform or pretty open platform they want to have a very respected life these are very peaceful demands everywhere in the arab world i think that is the reason why the military in sudan has responded quickly to this because if they waited more other possibilities will. like service to group people who will use the situation to create conflict and the country as me with this

actually some of this in the last two weeks when we start hearing about the groups who are hitting the civilians and the minute where the military decided to intervene so there was the potential of complicating the scene and the bringing elements like you know insurgent or other groups of fighters who can actually killing civilians and no one can ask them who are they and then the more complicated i think the military has decided to intervene to avoid this and to move i hope to move the country in the belief useful. transition after all of these thirty years we're going to continue talking about the sentiment that for now i want to go to val mohammed valve has covered sudan extensively for us and he joins us now live from china and she is here we are watching what looks like celebrations on the streets of cartoon what do you expect to happen next. if you.

population. there is something going on and. on. over the last month. i think agree. very. honestly. we are here. because. people. have been demanding they want. the outbreak. over the last few days probably one announcement. you know broke you would see the action so far no one can

predict for the option of the people in the streets he's been out for the. vice president and lucas not to shoot along with the few military offices prokofiev the house there is the school and they are the. people who have been the call people shoes the people well some of them are wanted by the i.c.c. for crimes against humanity darfur or somewhere else about going to push the people to go big on but in the. change in seasons a new phase in all stupid off. with the move. a little bit and so maybe the people getting the benefits of the dollars and even the few days or few weeks or two months to see if they are going to need a new cold front you should too. country of immigrants and the sudan where

the government listens to people who can see the change development being implemented are seeing the corruption and more responsible the populations are also keeping well you're talking about a new set on buttoning a current also done since december dozens of people have been killed when they've been out on the streets protesting their fans about violence going forward now especially given the levels of fact mentation within the security services. but both sides it depends on how much control of the people who are leading this change as a whole must control the hopper the solution to be anything from the mouth from the kook over the sea fish and the radio station and then there will be an elephant gazing from god we haven't seen colossal thank you both news of deep. shady means that these people are going to make it that they already control the police

or the security solution otherwise if you touch the just drink and just let you know a function of the military. house with a house. somewhere on how to see the. problems in the house is. cool. by. the. military. will maybe one or two or three while. you unconfirmed. one of those talks a minute sort of leader. but the same being. always on the issue. is the. one or two people on. the body alongside and of course opposed to this. both

committed to a talk from. you nice. to be called to the fine so that means they are in control of the situation as you say look at it all and control of the situation i don't. talk about about military. security since i made some of the problems. well saddam has been in a state of emergency since the twenty second of february and at that point on the offices took over the leadership post of a number of civilian officials how does that play it out and hands of this power dynamic now that it gives the army a based on china's us in terms of being able to launch something like this. the. police can post it for. several weeks to grow they will appoint someone that. of course the how to design is not to the not to look into a positive direction but somebody to make it to that action because instead of. you

keeping some concessions and implementing more informed them across because for so long we actually need to see any kind of a disease he says of the components of the government and the rules that govern most of the uses and you appoint coprime to. the highest as you see and obviously they use and understood by the population the kinds of music that a cool i'll get you on any of them and any semblance of seasoning you can in my view that we will be the most because you know. some of the governments and by human logic they understand that he's actually wanted to forty five these positions and to get more consulate general so that's you know you protect himself that people will always be around in a number of issues once equality and i think he and. i don't

know how woman who is a governmental sulkily son and who is the girl to console him and who's given the high a round of those that you see shall not leave you and that she actually sees the old school a few weeks ago and you put them in a study out there some of us can tell you so far we don't know what will happen now is actually to get rid of and then. measures how spot fires and you know keeping yourself in call by about the decision to actually lose power because what's happened in the last few babies and then to many of the other countries even though we happened to them twice before to then have to see two popular uprisings. in the sixty's and ninety five and told to choose. she was before the people who took to the city and to some of the pay to stage

a coup and to change that image and you've been in one case in one thousand b.c. five a top military officer then a few hours i had him on to the isolation of the demands of the people in the city for the most but i didn't follow places on the navy and he led a politician a peaceful transition to activity in government about the civilian government was then a popular and i'm not going to move your cool vice president omar at that she. is not so we are seeing these two getting themselves in the back we are seeing the same now to look at the people in the streets the military the funding and look at the cool potential cool fog that is not clear because we don't know what kind of school this is just some. of the city calling somebody trying to protect inside to keep this publicly talk and for the bleeding so i mean these are only done for the

last. ten says yes it's us is in fact the situation the people will not be surprised they will not be happy with this and you will see most nazis on the lead you to see the direction in the security situation these people they said see something different and the signs are going to change and completely new faces a lot going to go abroad likely to be the country into a peaceful pointing to a new democratic republic. but it isn't government on elected by the people and changes are being implemented which is i think in my opinion this is very unlike you i've been profiled by a few issues if you get a kind of a school look at the public from a newsman it really will come to find the core side because it's close by to moving the most controversial cases and keeping the country. algis there as they're speaking to us from tunis thank you well for now let's recap for

you the developments that have taken place in sudan the army deployed troops around the defense ministry on key roads and bridges in the capital khartoum on thursday there are reports that the head of the ruling party and the former vice president have been detained thousands have flocked onto the streets of the capital and joined a sit in outside the military headquarters that sit in has been taking place since saturday state television said the armed forces would make an important announcement sparking speculation that a coup attempt could be underway against president omar al bashir these latest developments follow months of protests against his thirty year rule. as a sudanese activist in support of the protests and he joins us now via skype from khartoum thanks for being with us let me start by asking you how you're feeling this morning and what the atmosphere is like there in khartoum.

already. you've been participating in these protests tell me a little more about what the atmosphere has been like outside the army headquarters over the last few days. it was like it was like a tiny country and there was everything that a person could think of there was people singing other people reading the koran that was goofy groups that came all the way from undermine there was a medical station there were food supplies that was what the supplies there were people playing card games there were people chanting some chant there were people drumming dancing thing going doing. the male figures that were doing spoken word it was like

a tiny colony that were present done needed by the youth that we actually aspired to have a country such as what we had in the revolution in the last four days no matter what the celebration today and right now we are seeing lots of pictures as he says as people out on the streets watch what you want to modify and have been that. nothing is certain yet they have not released on the fish a statement because the army is still preparing i think. the radio stations and the others in channels because they have to work with who they trust but we are following the professional association. we've been following their command since they won the process and even after the army make their official statement the other official statement that will be released by official association of the sudanese people and then we can actually to celebrate the victory in case i mean

all our demand which is this to moved into a transitional. phase for a specific period of time like agreed upon by both parties the public and the army and then if in that case this happened that would be able to celebrate and the country. are you optimistic that your demands will be met i mean there are lots of different. and even if the army has got rid of him out of the share there are various other forces at play it's very neatly rooted. mechanism of how the whole structure of the sudanese government has been functioning since even before the. nine is. even older than thirty years but we can hope we can hope for the best that we can extract the whole party from its roots then the polish affiliations with with their presentation of. the machine and his followers in case that happened the mistake happened we just pray for the best and

if it doesn't going to go back again i'm going to persist until we venture to get one and we will get what we want longer let me ask you about the faith that you seem to have in the army they did support al bashir right in the beginning of the of protests and then loyalties now seem to have shifted whether he will face in the military come from. basically the higher ranks of the army are still and. moments are falling on the shias but the lower ranks of the army is they say they are living life standards not very similar they are going through the process of. you know a difficult life that's why apart from the officers in the army and the first line officers they decided to take the side of the supporters because they have learned from the group of ninety six before and again that we learned from the one hundred

eighty nine that and then the day the streets would prevail and the will of the people. the matter when the protests began in december they began about the price of bread often simple and then they became a broader movement let me ask you personally what drove you out onto the streets. what drove me out. how i see i was going to speak about thousands of people out of my inner circle michael i see a lot of extremely talented people who are just willing for just looking for a chance to express what they have inside of them munition artists boy. to meet all kinds of music who just want to have a normal basic human life and it's almost impossible to get business done unless you're actually government and this is one of the reasons why i went out because i

don't want. i don't want to take a bite of this and enough emanation of. that we spoke up and i'm really glad we did well in speaking up a lot of people get arrested hundreds of people arrested and dozens of people were killed and there was a brutal crackdown that was condemned by various defense national organizations how do you feel about how the government reacted to the protests that you participated in. i feel really bad for the families though for the families a lot. larger of them and i feel great about for those who got damaged defective financially physically mentally but at the end of the day we must make the sacrifice on our journey of liberation we need to we need to give the sacrifice whatever kind of sacrifice it is i mean it would be better to to get beaten up by by by militias rather than them rather than being able to defeat our own property

or being able to express their word with so many people who are being restrained that i'm aware of being restrained but now this is a chance to prove that we we actually did it the right decision and we commemorate all of the need public and we're just hoping for the best remedy you've told me about the things that you didn't want to continue and said on tell me about the news today that you envision what you hope for the future for your country. liberty freedom and justice and that is. an activist who has been obvious a time number two of his age thank you so much for joining us from catching as well that you get back to your friends on the streets today both good but. now out of fear of him morgan joins us on the phone also from the capital khartoum

he what are we hearing now what's likely to happen in the next few hours. one must say what we're hearing is that the army is still yet to make its announcement but thousands are pouring into the streets the former vice president al gore some of the home has been arrested as well as the former defense minister ibrahim hussein as well as other good former government officials are now that's number one is also a rest of the ruling the head of the ruling our national congress party after president bashir stepped down in february in hopes that this would end the protest obviously it did not so right now what we have is that former government officials the former vice president the former defense minister and the head of the ruling party the acting head of the ruling party who like president bashir is also wanted by the international criminal courts have been arrested by the military were still waiting for that announcement from the military we don't know what they are going to say but we do know that there are a lot of military trucks out on the streets the streets most of the main roads

leading to the army h.q. and around hold some have been blocked by the military but thousands are pouring in in front of the army h.q. they say that the army has taken over and this is a coup and this is where they have been waiting for but also let's remember that the sudanese professional associations which have been taking the lead in calling for protests and demanding a change of governance and wish you to step down have said that they will not accept a military government for a transition period they just want a civilian government no military official so it's not clear what we should be expecting in the next few hours and even if the army and now says that bashir is term is over if the protests on the streets will end here that as you say it appears a number of officials have been detained what do we know about the shares whereabouts and what might happen next for him. while there is still no word from bashir from his office the military has not said where president bashir is at the moment what we do know is that they have held

a meeting with the head of the national security with the head of police without the president or commander in chief previously they have said that they will stand by the commander in chief and that they will not let this country divide and slide into chaos now we have been repeating over the past four months during the protest era time that they will stand by their commander in chief but one they topple bashir once they announce that bashir is no longer president he will not be their commander in chief so it's not clear what they will do it's not clear if they would hand it over to the international criminal court let's remember that bashir is wanted by the international criminal court for work crimes crimes against humanity and genocide in the western region of darfur so his fate largely lies in the hands of the military if they announce that his term is over and that was have a morgan speaking to us there from the capital khartoum and we'll be coming back to her for updates throughout the day well right now we can speak to her jewish kooker who is a member of. a resistance movement who's been helping to organize the protest in sudan and he joins us now via skype from kenya thanks so much for being with us

tell us a little about how you're feeling this morning given that you are seeing all these celebrations potentially prematurely but celebrations on the streets of khartoum nevertheless. well. feeling excited but at the same time. the thing happened is this is have a revolution we got. a lot of people we really hate and we were trying hard to get them out of work from over here driving to our all into a lot of the names that tormented us for years but it's still not of the revolution because the army to go with the leadership of bin of which is one of the people who was fighting those like killing people in the streets so we really were hoping that the mid-level officers take over power which didn't happen right now we we're just going to go back to the streets and that's what we're going to do in alt continues in power is he was the vice president he was the wind who was asking people in

the streets to be mean by force so it's have one revolution is the step forward it's a very big step forward which so so excited but it's not the end and we have to buy and how do you tell me a little more about the organization of this resistance movement you were in kenya and you've been supporting these protests in sudan tell me a lot and little bit about the demographics of the people who are out on the streets at the moment and with these demands. i was in sudan so i was in sudan i was actually arrested for three weeks and i was working there on the streets a lot of the people going in i just had to leave for some leave but. it's all. brought to start of the in december december and it started. in but i was the one that was in the starboard who was the one that everybody out of their places like this is going people and then slowly started to come organize and till

the beginning of the year and then when. i see a. national association started becoming down below everybody's under and everybody was using it as the force we all organized and with them and there was the declaration and change that they announced and everybody signed into it and then we became different groups that work together and that umbrella where the. sudanese professional association wins out a call for the action and then everybody organizes separate me in different groups to make this action work so it was a decentralized movement still is and that's the strength of it and that's why the . national security forces were never able to find leadership or to break it down and to now if you go through the sit in that happened after the april six which was the biggest and happened. now where like literally millions are in the streets be

part of this and everybody broke fear factor as you know that happened when the level soldiers and the army sided with the people so up to now says a decentralized movement and it's really strong and ongoing and we're hoping that the new four year and the excitement that i'm going to be here is gonna read not stop it and we go all the way to get a real transitional. period. so we can go into democracy and we can absolutely and will exceed that to get us out of it months to ration where it has or so just to be clear that you are going to go back to the streets and that the protests will continue because you don't feel that your demands of unmet run me through for clarity exactly what those demands are and whether or not you feel that that overall movement is united does everyone who is protesting wants exactly the same thing what what would a transitional government be enough for some of the people who are out today. so

the strength of our movement has always been in two things one there we have a very strong slogan which is the best which is just me you need the whole thing just collapse and the other one is we have the dictator ration or freedom and change and the delusion is very clear we want intrusion of government that is a civilian transitional government. that is led the four years that is led by professionals so it's a very. clear asians that we all know what we want and we're all united and we have a leadership that everybody's going to follow so the moment we find out that no this is the army and they still want to cling to power and women are just once you like change i'm a big huge is what it seems is going to happen right now he is not accepted as a person even one of the people who we feel is far are the best. in the par with used to collapse so they really were all united and right now the calls of all the

different groups within the collaboration for freedom and change are see that we are excited by the collapse but are we want real change we're not going to accept it for sure. an activist who's been part of the demonstrations in sudan vowing to continue protesting on the streets thanks for joining us hauser's well for now let's recap the latest developments out of sudan state television says the army will make an important announcement soon there are reports that military vehicles have been deployed to key and bridges hundreds possibly thousands of people out on the streets celebrating in the capital khartoum there are unconfirmed reports that senior officials have been detained including the former vice president former defense minister and the head of the ruling party and there are further reports that the khartoum airport has now been closed well is where he is with me here in our studio and he's the professor of contemporary middle east history at castle

university thanks for joining us again margaret. i'd like us to talk about mapping out the way façade on going forward what what are the possibilities and what what potential is there for violence let's first admit that there is there are two voices and so then the voice which is seem to appear in few hours which basically the military establishment. assume to decide about the future of so done but there is another voice or other. logan which basically the sudan a professional association basically they were leading the movement in the last few months they have different demand i think the demand we hear from different guests you had now it's obvious they need civilian government military is not allowed to run the show anymore because basically they are part of the problem in the past so they are not you know if people ask them to help doesn't mean that they have to

hijack the process and that was a clear message it seems to me. at least to me that maybe the reason behind the delay of announcing that statement i think there is a serious. pressure on the military to announce something reasonable accepted avoiding the country of serial violence because if according to what we are hearing from the the from from the tomb it seems there is no one of the to accept the military but on the show even in the transition a transition time that's an important element the second element we are hearing also that there is two level within the militarist operation we have the first one the second line it seems that who's running now we're trying to run the show is actually the second line and i think if you put the sudan the professional association as a middle class group wave the second line of the military again do those belong

to the middle class. group of the society they can michel work together i think in the trials the transition time because simply the the if they belong to the same social class they are suffering and they are facing the same problems actually they had in the last thirty years so i assume this may be pushed to world of i would say . a peaceful transition time however we have to be careful of what will happen what would be the reaction from outsiders to external factor is important we witness diet in different arab countries and the intervention of the outsiders had complicated domestic politics of many countries so it's not clear yet what will be their action from outsiders and how much those now who are sitting and trying to put together that statement they will take into consideration the action of outsiders because if they want or if they are now in touch of people contacting

them and they want to take into consideration the outsider there will be more complicated matters inside so that there is another issue also we have to look at it now in the light of all of these developments it's obvious that there is a determination to to keep people in the street and not actually just send them home it seems to me that this professional association they are pushing that because they according to them according to their account into a third they say we have to protect the achievement don't listen don't go home a little bit what we want and the want and what they want is a civilian government and the they don't want to see any military or one important final thought on this and actually they want to end up with the previous regime one hundred percent they don't want to see any of the element actually in transition

time even from those military who actually shown don't want. mr howe the demonstrators well is that not likely a risky strategy given that the demonstrators are now going to be making demands of the military who are helping them absolutely it's very risky but i think they're relying on stock they are strong because there are thousands and the assumed the military will not have any action against them because it would be risky for the military as well the military has to keep in mind that the eyes the world on them as well and the you have to be cautious as well and the action against the civilians well sure so will that if there's also been a lot of talk this morning about this news to don and there are obviously a huge amount of challenges that lie ahead whether at me for a transitional government be it military or civilian what in your mind are the navy challenges going forward in the immediate aftermath of what happens today i think they need the government which basically put the put together the consistent belies the country first because people do need stability first that's what's important

and they need to see actions when it comes to the economy because you want what the broad sudan is to the to the street actually is the corruption is the living of authoritarianism in sudan is this kind of how you jacki the political life in the last thirty years not listening to the demand of millions of young sudan is will it do you created who are exposed exposure to to the world they know what's happening and it's been driven by and deliver and what's interesting about the case of sudan and the two leaders they did not learn from the lesson of what happened the last ten years they witnessed the fall in the falling down of many leaders in the last ten years. that feel and i'm sorry but they haven't learned the lesson to take into consideration the demand of their own people. let me ask you about the state of emergency because technically that's still in place yes so the military officers who were put in these roles that were previously civilian officials did that shift the balance of power here did that help with what's happening what we're seeing

happen this morning potentially i don't think so i think the state of emergency actually has. actually increasing the guard between the mysteries and the government i think if the military establishment want to capitalize on this they would lose that but they have i think. to me to be honest with you i think the delete what explain the delay to me is actually they are in bill kurtis situation whether to react to what's happening in the street and to look at what point to the world i think that what makes them really worried about what are the words they want to put and what are the things they want to convey to the world but we've been watching a lot of these pictures of celebration and street scenes this morning and shot also on mobile phones and i'm curious about the use of technology in the activism that's brought all these people out onto the streets since december this is very interesting point to highlight because no i mean the military could actually cut the internet could create you know sort of problems to the communication and so

that they have done they have not done that that's this is an indicator because. maybe very they don't want to start a confrontation with the people that's one sublimation or maybe they are not capable to do so because there is no agreement between them actually you could do so group of you know i would say the second line of the military they have no agreement on everything yes so it seems that's the reason why even every it seems the country in a looser tuition now there is no one who is running the show they are a group of people are they hiding themselves they try to cook something announce it but the other part of the country actually in a new situation i think not controlling the communication the internet that is an indicator that they have they have not agreed on what will be the next step. well in terms of next steps let's talk about the shares potential next steps and he's

obviously facing prosecution at the i.c.c. and we don't know we don't even know where he is this morning do you feel that he is under threat from the military and potentially taken over or all of a likely to try to protect. to ensure a more peaceful transition of power i think i would say today he's out of the history it's obvious that at least to me i'm not at least to me now if we look at the development in the last few hours it seems he's now. out of the seat now what will happen to him i don't think so that will matter to the students i think the sudanese wanted to see him out and i think they are seeking out what would happen to him is a message to the others to learn from i mean whether he was sent out to the you know to the court or actually he was kept in his house that's not a matter because the end of the day the legacy he left is a bad legacy he came with

a good image he lit he's living with the with the bad image of being set italian and putting the country and they're under a severe pressure economy and politically so i don't think so the norm in sudan will be i actually think it was a huge overbet issue i think you know what would matter to the sudanese is what would happen to the sudan as a whole as a country who run the country how the country will be run is the country taken to the safe side to this is what actually will be done by another a copy of a new authoritarian faces will take the country another thirty years but i think that is what sudan is should focus on because those of the italian the genes the history does not take care of them just remember your mind remember them to say learn of them remembering them. plenty plenty of questions starting out larry thank you for joining us in our shooting and. plenty happening on the streets of khartoum this morning the army has deployed troops around the defense ministry on key roads and bridges we're also seeing scenes of celebration these are protests

that began in december dozens of people have been killed hundreds arrested and now we are seeing a potential and change of regime in sudan there will be any more updates coming later on. throughout the day on al-jazeera please stay with us. twenty one an h. to assert your individuality it's ok to argue with people that it's ok to disagree with people but also a period when childhood dreams can clash with reality compromising i don't think anybody could have compromised in two thousand and six south africa revisits the children of apartheid for the third time and like their country much has changed over the past fourteen years too you are twenty one up south africa and i want to zoom in.

and i bet the clouds are gathering once more over parts of southeastern china we take a look at the satellite picture we can see the clouds at first it just in the north drifting their way towards the east but then a few brighter white areas of cloud begin to develop to the south of that and this is the area we've got to watch over the next few days that really gets going and then we see some very heavy downpours that thursday and on friday the whole thing is moving southward that we saw on friday it will be the growing she area and the going down province where we see the worst of the wet weather really does look very wet here i mean further towards the south and there's some sunshine for most of us in the southeastern parts of asia but also some shop showers around some particularly heavy ones have been there over the southern half of the philippines but we're also seeing plenty of a possible through java and into some march up from the northwest impalas there's also one or two showers here particularly over parts of thailand and those will be stretching through cambodia and into parts of viet nam for friday as well one or two of us are likely to see a few showers here there's also some showers

a further towards the northwest as well if we look at the satellite picture we can see them making their way across parts of bangladesh when those one sees i think we'll just see more developing particularly later on during the day so at first it shouldn't be too bad for the eastern parts draw yes haught yes but the showers that pop up late on thursday and late on friday to. i'm sami's a. seven o'clock g.m.t. nine am in sudan where our continuing coverage of a rapidly unfolding situation continues the sudanese army has deployed troops around the defense ministry on key roads and bridges in the capital khartoum there are reports the head of the ruling party and the former vice president have been

detained thousands of flocked in the streets of the capital and joined a sit in outside the military headquarters that protest has been taking place since saturday. state television said the armed forces would make an important announcement amid speculation a coup attempt could be underway against president obama bashir it follows months of protests against his thirty year rule. of this is an image of the army logo on sudanese state television which is come up in the last few minutes it says i'll announcement is imminent have morgan joins us from the capital khartoum hima let's start first of all with a basic question pulling this all in do we know what is going on. well i mean what we have at the moment is that the military is expected to make an announcement they walk into the state television station at around five o'clock

local time which they're around to g.m.t. and now that they will be making an argument that nobody knows what that announcement will say but what we do know is that close to international airport has been shut down to no flights are allowed into the country and out of the country we also know that there is a lot of military presence on the street a lot of army truck you see them on the main street most of the main street especially going into the army headquarters where people have been taking that into the pot five days one of the streets are blocked the people have with the big route that they can use to access the army to resist and say can just sit and do the other routes that they're using at the moment thousands of people from various parts of the state of out of tune the capital have been pouring into the army h.q. for the prosecutor hours waiting for the army to make that announcement has been saying that it could have taken place is in control right now now in the member for four months over four months people have been protesting demanding that president obama be here and his knees eighty years of rule and step down so it looks like the

army will make a statement regarding this issue and where they stand over the past five days when the similar thought that on some path today people have been demanding that the army take a stand and let them know who they stand with where they are again and again. with the processes. of government officials or you know ranking military officers break away from the army and fighting with the protest and if the army officials senior army officials national security officials as well a police official coming out a statement saying that they understand why the protesters are out in the streets and why they're speaking the same and that they should be protected and their voices be heard so right now people on the streets are expecting that the army will make an announcement and they're expecting that the army will announce that they are taking over. that's for. step by step just to try and get as much clarity as possible into the picture right here but you mentioned the army are out on the streets is there any sign of them taking the souls of posture that is typical in

a coup situation. moving into key buildings taking over ministries taking over government offices radio television stations etc where are they on the streets. well as the moment besides blocking the main street they have shut down the airport that there are no five coming in and out of the country because the army has shut down the airport and they have taken over the radio stations and the television station and also leading government officials and former government officials former vice president. and the former defense minister the regime have been there as well as the ruling the acting ruling head of the national congress party. who has been appointed by president bashir just over a month ago as the head of the ruling party to replace him he has also been under house. arrest over the pa few hours so it's not clear yet what to expect from the announcement but we do know that the army has taken control of some major

facilities in the country and have arrested a major figure current and former government official or i let me ask you another question haber any sign of the army in any way interfering with the protesters. well known since the protests since the system that specifically the army have been very. well as people as people who have been protesting for that they've been very cooperative and they've been very protective of the protesters now let's remember on monday and security forces fired at the sitting president thousands and thousands of people who have been sitting there for over forty eight hours. opened their h.q. the protesters and fired back at national security and came out with statement on damming the move and saying that they protect the protesters that have been changed they are still on the streets and people have been pouring in congratulating the army even before statements have been has been made but the army so far has not

approached the protesters they seem to be taking this and wanting to protect the protesters in case the security gets out of hand. to recap the picture that i'm understanding from you have sounds like the army is on the streets the army is taking over many key installations you mentioned a whole bunch of important people key figures associated with the ruling regime have been arrested but the army hasn't stopped or invaded with the protesters by and large and they're still streaming in and out and have freedom of movement all this would suggest to one that this does look like a coup. against the ruling regimes we're not one that's directed against the protesters themselves at this point is correct. yes sammy abdomen it looks like the military is siding with the protesters and that if this is a coup as it looks at the moment it is a coup against the president and his government it's not clear if this would mean

the end of the process people who have been leading the protests but that means professional association came out with a statement calling for people to continue to pour out in the streets not just some of them but other states as well to go and stage more of that and in front of the army it killed in various states around them but they've also said that a time not once a military transitional government so if this is a coup and a transitional government is to be formed at the moment it looks like the military will be in control but look at believing the protest say that they don't want the military so that if it is the might not be the end of the second in the process with the theme of a few months. this point here but do we have any idea where is omar and bashir. well almost this year has not been heard of especially since his clothes basic former defense minister and his. person he has replaced party has been all been arrested person some of those who have not been

heard from nobody knows where he is what we do know is that top government officials sub military officials as well as national security officers and police officers have held a meeting without the president with what the army is effectively having at the moment their commander in chief so it's not clear where he is and what his fate will be obviously if this is a cool way to be in the hands of the military and remember that president bashir is the only sitting president at the moment to be indicted and wanted by the international criminal court for work crimes and crimes against genocide crimes against humanity and genocide in the western region of darfur whatever happened that this is including his life very much with the military they will have to decide whether they want to keep him in the country or whether he should be handed over to the international criminal court which way they will go and how this will end with that in bashir another key question here do we have any word on the whereabouts of our old ibn our the country's first vice president he was just

recently appointed first vice president defense minister x. military intelligence background his whereabouts might tell us a lot about the direction of this coup is he with the crew or is his whereabouts are unknown. one hundred in fact or five days ago i wanted to know what the defense minister and the president came out and said that he will not allow the country or rather his military will not allow the country to be divided and slide into chaos currently our. security forces and we had a top military official and one of the people who are in the meeting and some are saying that they're expecting him to be the one leading the interim government or the transitional government announced so at the moment it looks like. very much going with what the top officials from the security forces from the military and the police. come out with their they've been having in their meeting nobody knows

what the outcome of that meeting is and nobody knows what the statement that is to be announced holds but at the moment as you said earlier it looks very much like a group the military seem to be the one in control. all right that's good stuff from have been well when she's watching the situation a very fluid situation developing there in car too as well as across the dan let's recap on the developments taking place that she's been telling us about first of all state television says the army is going to make an important announcement soon rather of faults as it was outlining the military vehicles have been deployed to key roads key bridges key installations institutions across the country hundreds possibly thousands of people are out on the streets and they're celebrating in the capital khartoum there are reports also that senior officials have been detained including the former vice president the former defense minister and the current head of the ruling party and there are further reports called to marry paul as

being close. juba's away is with me here in the doha studio he's a professor of contemporary middle east history at cutting university all of this looks like a move by the army to take over against the share right absolutely as as you said some it's obvious that the by surprise that the minister of defense is in charge it seems on all of this there is concern and he was recently appointed he was applied yes. of course in the last few days he was sending messages that actually he's he disagrees with the president that action and he was a criticizing the measures taken against the civilians but there is some kind of parallel out of the situation in some ways is very different is there some similarities to the sort of the c.c.c. dynamic that we've seen in egypt. only appointed general and then he makes a move again it's another scenario another course morsi was. elected civilian

president obama to share has a very very different you know reminded us of all of our things are seem similar but what's interesting as we hear from unconfirmed reports that. there are other people from the military are actually working with the south was one of them is very controversial inside a purpose she was the director of intelligence and this gentleman was actually accused of work of meeting the israelis counterpart in last the munich conference a few months ago and there was a lot of criticism that also he was close to the immunity and egyptians so i think you know what you are hearing from her to not only what is his whereabouts or his he's with but with that with with the minister of defense now so they are sort of people now working together the leadership of this. one.