it includes the areas of sheer the disused international airport also one e so. where they will be and ends are several occasions in and around tripoli have been also hit areas strikes the united nations says more than one thousand people have left their homes to escape the fighting on the southern outskirts of tripoli government officials here say that number continues to rise and there and back the government is accusing have their forces of targeting civilian areas with heavy weapons mohammed says he saw dead bodies near his house and one of his neighbors was killed by a random bullet here and his family hardly had any chance to collect their blooming so. we don't know where we should go has been destroyed in our area it's caves there and we left everything behind including our livestock. they're being provided

with food and blankets by aid organizations but municipal council members say they don't have enough shelters to accommodate the groomed number of displaced people. but that five hundred families have registered only in the same token we are getting more people but the problem we face now is that we don't have enough shelters we have even used state hotels and hospitals to lodge them some of these people have been provided to the houses by do notice others hostage by their relatives but has it own neighborhood to have turned it into a battle soon there weren't the houses they've lived to be behind could be destroyed in the fighting. tripoli twenty five former high ranking european politicians have signed an open letter urging e.u. nations to reject any middle east peace plan unveiled by the white house that's unfair to palestinians the u.s.

is preparing to announce what it calls the deal of the century and those who signed the letter say it's a critical moment in the middle east than europe they accuse the white house of departing from longstanding u.s. policy and the stablished international law by recognizing only one side's claim to jerusalem they say the u.s. has demonstrated quote a disturbing indifference to israeli settlement expansion the letter goes on urging european nations to back up plan requiring the creation of a palestinian state alongside israel with east jerusalem as its capital they say an unfair plan could fatally damage the cause of a durable peace for palestinians and israelis alike the secretary general of the palestine liberation organization says europe needs to act to implement existing un resolutions the european union needs to know who is the state of palestine what is the sum of its character on the night in six seven lines and the need to implement seriously. resolution twenty three thirty four of scrooge cost of two thousand and

sixteen that's obliterated between israel and the settlements dealing with settlements in anyway the calling the settlements in the occupied state of palestine just daughterly illegal and against international law that's what's required from europe now earlier we spoke to sweden's former prime minister carl bildt one of the signatories of the letter he said a two state solution is the only viable way forward. what kind of solution to the hep permanent occupation it would be to the detriment of the if there is to meet the but history of a one nation solution with rights for everyone to be clearly unacceptable to a lot of that. state would be unacceptable to the outside world difficult with a two state solution particularly view of what's been happening with settlement policy and all of that but if you look at the alternatives i think you find that this is the only only avenue that can bring both peace durable to israel and recognition by the rest of their word justice and peace to the

palestinian people there is no other way to trumpet mr he wakes up to the relatives of what is she evil when it comes comes to peace in the middle east they would eventually find the dissolution among the along the lines that has been indicated by the european union for a long time is only a viable solution that has any possibility of we've success still ahead on al-jazeera mistaking more tourists for tories seven afghan children children and the latest reminder of the threat from unexploded munitions climate change protesters bring london to a standstill taking on days a planned rallies around the world. and are there that's yet more wet weather across the middle east at the moment the

late the system is working its way away from parts of iran into afghanistan where we are think a few significant outbreaks of rain that area of wet weather also extends further north as well so we could see some showers and now motti to bow and that is a little bit of a break for us in the eastern parts of iran before the next weather system is beginning to push inside force in turkey and on the way to down the eastern coastline of the mediterranean we're going to see quite a few share. and that will continue its journey eastwards towards the caspian sea there as we head into wednesday over the high ground we could still see a fair amount of that turning to snow south of that it's going to be pretty hot for say baghdad offered around twenty six in kuwait put around thirty here in doha our cloud has cleared as well so it's now getting pretty warm we're looking at around thirty four force on choose day no major change for wednesday said the sunshine is back here to want to force insulin a little bit more humid here saw temperature is limited to thirty one there was a southern parts of africa a few showers in the northern part of our map as you'd expect in

a couple forest in the northern parts of madagascar as well and we're also watching another system in the southern parts of south africa that's moving away there perhaps a little bit of cloud still grazing that coastline for tuesday been at to twenty two.

hello again the top stories on. their demands including an immediate transition to a civilian government with some representatives from the military you're looking at live pictures from the main protest campaign. and just a reminder that a military council took over when president bashir was deposed last week. nearly one hundred fifty people have been killed in the battle for libya's capital tripoli that's according to the world health organization more than eighteen thousand others fighting between forces loyal to work. and those who support the government's. former high ranking european politicians are urging to reject any middle east peace plan unveiled by the white house that's unfair to palestinians

such a. durable peace. an investigation by french media organizations has revealed the use of french weapons by this coalition in yemen leaked documents from france's military intelligence show that french battle tanks helicopters fighter jets. artillery pieces have been deployed on the battlefield and in civilian areas. the investigation found that since twenty ten france saw one hundred thirty two says are guns to riyadh's between march twenty sixth in december last year thirty five civilians including children were killed in areas that were within the range of those weapons or the french government has responded saying that as far as they know the weapons possessed by coalition forces are not on the front line the fashion butler has more from paris well this report certainly seems to damage the credibility of the french government now investigators from two

frauds is because media organizations radio france and media parts say that they received a leak top secret defense documents which shows that saudi arabia and the united arab emirates are using french made weapons in yemen but not only for defense purposes now the french government has always maintained that the weapons that they have sold to these countries are being used only for defense and pose no risk to the civilian population well this investigation is quite detailed it talks about some of the arms which are publicly sold to these countries such as helicopters armored vehicles mirage jets it also has some real detail for example it says that along the border between yemen and saudi arabia sees the guns cannons are posted more than forty of them and they have a range of around forty kilometers so that means that civilians could well be at risk and the report also talks about two french made naval vessels that are being

used as part of the saudi coalition's blockade on yemeni ports preventing humanitarian aid reaching the civilian population. funerals have been held for the seven children killed in afghanistan when a mortar they were playing with exploded ten others were wounded in the. province charlotte dallas reports on how children are the most vulnerable to unexploded munitions scattered across the country during nearly two decades of war. in this small village of lanky joe in eastern afghanistan hundreds of men gather to pray for seventeen young boys. their perception through the symmetry is because of a single mortar as a sunset on sunday the boys found it and played with it it exploded in. this community is on the front lines of the war in an area by the taliban it's so to say fighting has peaked in the last year zero couldn't so one of the mourners

filmed for us recording on his screens grapple with losing the. ten boys were wounded in the blast most were brought here to loveman hospital they tell us how they were all of history fishing when they found the water it was thirty metres from an army base. they were going to put it in particular through the mortar in the potato field the other boys came and threw it in the stream we were there because we wanted to catch fish. because some children put the mortar in a potato field then in the evening other boys came and they wanted to buy the rocket a scrap metal they were fetching it and we ran away and then they threw it in the stream and it exploded. these boys avoided serious injuries and amputation saved by the distance to the explosion last year and nearly fifteen hundred civilians were either killed or hurt by land mines and unexploded munitions that number has

tripled since twenty twelve and it's children who are hurt the most of those killed by unexploded bombs or rockets the saint a child. i think they are playing with a toy. and this is the result parents warning their children the un started a mine clearing program years ago and in that time has removed eighteen million unexploded munitions for the boys of blank took just one to him sivan young lives charlotte dallas al-jazeera kabul and the a presidential challenger is promising to take the country's economy in a new direction. i was running against incumbent. who's overseeing solid growth in his first term but his rival in wednesday's elections has many indonesians aren't getting from are gaining rather from its benefits when he reports. in indonesia's

capital jakarta drivers of three wheeled taxis have more time than they used to to talk politics the president joko widodo has encouraged other modes of transport that can be ordered online meaning business has reduced dramatically for these workers they say they'll vote for change in wednesday's election in the hope it will improve the economic situation that you see. these days it's so difficult for me to make a living we don't have enough money for tomorrow's food if we don't work today two to three dollars a day. the economy has been one of the main points of debate during this six month election campaign it's growing at around five percent which is short of what the president was aiming for body enough he says to earn a second term in office. we want to continue our effort to develop the economic independence of indonesia. jacoby's main focus has been on infrastructure development like the opening of an underground train line in jakarta which was

first proposed more than thirty years ago. on the campaign trail joko widodo has spent much of his time trying to sell voters on the economic achievements of his government over the past five years which he says have led to the lowest unemployment rate in twenty years his opponent has opted for a much more populist approach. like the last election in two thousand and fourteen the other choice for president is former army general problem. he says he'll lower the cost of living and he has also promised create more jobs through a boost in the manufacturing sector. didn't come our nation has long been running in the wrong direction if this direction is continued it will not provide welfare for the indonesian people. there is concern among some economists that indonesia can't afford many of the measures prabhu is promising but they agree there should be a greater focus on manufacturing in the last thirteen years. experiencing. premature

deindustrialization switch means that the growth of the manufacturing sector is. below or lower than the. g.d.p. growth campaigning for the election has come to an end now many indonesians will be asking themselves if their lives have improved over the last five years or that they and their country need a new economic direction wayne hay al jazeera jakarta the operator of japan's crippled fukushima nuclear plant has begun removing nuclear fuel from its damaged reactors it was carried out by remote control due to high levels of radiation the reactor was damaged in twenty eleven when japan was hit by a massive earthquake and tsunami the cleanup is four years behind schedule in part due to difficulties clearing debris. the u.s. department of justice is expected to release a redacted version of the report on thursday it would be sent to congress and then made public attorney general william bar is under pressure to publish the full

report into possible collusion between russia and donald trump's campaign during the twenty sixth the election he released a summary of special counsel robert mellows four hundred page document last month it said there was no evidence trumps campaign worked with moscow protests are taking place around the world to put the issues of global warming and climate change in focus environmental activists are blocking some of london's busiest roads in an effort to shut down the city there demanding the government reduce carbon emissions to zero by twenty twenty five. france's world famous not cathedral is on fire french firefighters have confirmed that the land is ablaze and that a major operation is underway a spokesman from city hall said the area was being cleared you're looking at video latest pictures from paris off the church that are circulating right now on social media that cathedral was completed in the fourteenth century is considered to be

one of the finest examples of french gothic architecture australia have sacked their biggest rugby union star israel folau over homophobic comments he made on social media it comes just months before the rugby world cup in japan david stokes reports. israel folau is the highest profile and highest paid player in australian rugby union at least he was the fullbacks career appears to be over after he launched yet another homophobic attack on social media and ultra conservative christian he was wounded twenty seventeen for expressing his opposition to gay marriage but then last week posted this on instagram saying that all gays will go to hell if they do not repent left australia's rugby bosses with little choice. a high level. official players' code of conduct warranting timid nation has employment contract thirty year old who is not deleted the post told the sydney

morning herald newspaper it would be god's will if he never played rugby again he's been a fixture for the wallabies since switching from the rules in twenty thirteen and would no doubt have played a huge part in the world cup campaign later this year but coach michael says there's no way he could pick him now. everyone is for everyone it's not just australia facing could questions england rugby star believe could be in hot water for publicly defending folau online as could three of his teammates who in turn like his post is set to meet with england bosses this week as for he has forty eight hours to either accept his sacking or take it to an independent hearing but it's hard to see a route back for him now david stokes al-jazeera.

the headlines on al-jazeera sudan's protest leaders have laid out their demands including an immediate transition to a civilian government with some representatives from the military you're looking at live pictures from khartoum from one of the protest sites and they want the deposed president's party disbanded and the head of judiciary is deputies and the attorney general say it's a military council took over when president ahmed bashir was deposed last week in the winter but it was sort of. jerked of the revolution cannot be achieved completely in the face of the backstage manipulations of the remnants of the regime or key demand of a civil council to guarantee the revolution it safeguarded and its goals achieved with a technocratic provisional government with executive powers must be formed with the consensus of people nearly one hundred fifty people have been killed in the battle for libya's capital tripoli that's according to the world health organization more than eighteen thousand others have been this place in fighting between forces loyal to warlords fairly for half that and those who support the u.n.

backed government france's world famous. fire french firefighters say a major operation is underway and the spokesman from city hall said the area was being cleared the cathedral was completed in the fourteenth century and is considered to be one of the finest examples of french gothic architecture the operator of japan's crippled fukushima nuclear plant has begun removing nuclear fuel from its damaged reactors it was carried out by remote control so it's a high levels of radiation the reactor was damaged in twenty eleven when japan was hit by a massive earthquake and tsunami the cleanup is four years behind schedule in part due to difficulties clearing debris. u.s. department of justice is expected to release a redacted version of the mother report on thursday it will be sent to congress and then made public its run in general william barr is under pressure to publish the full report into possible collusion between russia and donald trump's campaign

during the twenty sixteen election he released a summary of the four hundred page document last month it said there was no evidence campaign worked with moscow those are the headlines on al-jazeera inside stories coming up next then it's the news hour i'll see you then bye bye. as libya's conflict escalates a dangerous double game is emerging western and regional powers are backing wyvil sides even as they publicly call for calm will they have a corporate and helped stop the violence this is inside story.

and welcome to the program i'm fully back t. ball it's been eight years since the fall of libya's leader moammar gadhafi and the nation is once again at risk of an all out war rival forces are intensifying their fight to control tripoli troops loyal to the u.n. backs government in the capital are trying to stop the advance of the warlords highly for half time some of his fighters reportedly surrendered their weapons and tanks on sunday after began his offensive to take tripoli two weeks ago at least one hundred twenty people have been killed and the u.n. is calling for calm saying the fighting is undermining international peace efforts but behind the scenes some western and regional countries have been giving support to have talks al-jazeera as mahmoud in tripoli explains how we reached this point. fighting intensified over the past week between forces loyal to the world wholly

for have to and others allied with the in the back to tripoli based a government of national accord on the southern outskirts of the libyan capital tripoli the government of national accord is accusing have to this forces of committing war crimes by targeting civilian areas with heavy weapons and airstrikes dozens of people have been killed so far including anderson civilians and thousands of civilians have been forced out of their homes because of the fighting now on the ground as the government forces have been gaining ground and they have launched a counteroffensive called the volcano of wrath to defend the capital city against what they call aggression by hastert forces we know that have to as warplanes have been targeting several locations in and around tripoli including the only operational air force in the city a mighty get now have started met the egyptian president at the fact there has sisi

in cairo on sunday we know that this comes in terms of the egyptian support to the world. has recently the government forces have been gaining ground they are trying to push have still forces backed beyond. this used international airport on the southern outskirts of the libyan capital tripoli also military commanders with the government of national called say that have to several military units with has to have been recently surrendering and handing over their weapons moved out that was helpful inside story tripoli. well libya has had two rival governments over the last few years the u.n. recognize administration led by prime minister fayyad. is based in the capital tripoli most western nations support the unity government including italy which is worried that the fighting will force more migrants to cross the mediterranean qatar

and turkey also box in the east there is the two brew based government the center of power for highly for half time he is backed by egypt saudi arabia and the united arab emirates france is also accused of providing military support to have to and russia recently vetoed a u.n. security council statement to condemn his advance on tripoli now protesters in tripoli have urged the foreign ministry to summon the ambassadors of egypt the u.a.e. saudi arabia and france and they say they want libya's representatives to the u.n. arab league and the african union to take measures against have tar. the and let's bring in our panel now joining us from london and. director of the tripoli based sadek institute in rome francesco guy head of the political risk consultancy policy sonar and joining us from oxford is oliver miles

a former british ambassador to libya welcome to you all thank you so much for being on inside story ambassador all the miles if i can start with you so many countries being influential roles are outside powers worsening the conflict in libya. yes yes they are it's a strange situation because for a long time now there's been universe for oral agreement verbal agreement international level that there should be no. military support for any of the parties in libya in fact was a un embargo on arms on but some countries have been blatantly ignoring that and the strange thing is that nobody seems to be in bulling until very recently to name them or training them so do you think that this recent offensive by a highly for have to on tripoli is going to change the mind of some of these countries or backed him until now into not doing so anymore or

possibly yes certainly there was an article in the french position saying that from for the barest because they've given support in the past monitors or not off when he was as damaging as control in the eastern part of libya in benghazi and are in america but they weren't expecting him it seems to launch this offensive you can properly as a matter of fact i think. pretty well any observer of libya over the last two year or two has been well aware that that was his intention the timing took us all by surprise but the intention was the do you think. in london that western powers like france were indeed caught off guard by early for have ties advance on tripoli do you think they had prior warnings about this offensive. they certainly did and this operation has been there for many years and if you look at the military supports the sheer depth and the layers of the kind of military planning intelligence gathering that has gone on in western libya the sheer fact that half there had been

met by the foreign minister of france who was the former defense minister that according to figure out who had interviewed him only ten days before the offensive had said that he came here to congratulate him on his victory so i think in that respect tough there is not the n f m a the all of the rest of the international community say that they kind of make out the diplomatic level of course there's always been this surface level symbolic support of the u.n. by government but it's the really material financial military intelligence kind of support that after has received over the last four years and but has it has used to his advantage to take over cities like minimize the like that i mean the latest movement in february was to move into the south and that move was congratulated by the p three plus three that was the u.k. u.s. italy france the u.a.e. in egypt so they congratulate him on his last military offensive here illegally occupied the oil installations in the south and and then immediately gave them going to gave symbolic allegiance to the national oil corporation in tripoli is that as ok to do so in that respect i think he enjoys so much military support and

again it's this kind of smoke and mirrors that most of the international community have engaged in they give this overt kind of public support to the u.n. by the government but only yesterday the minister of interior in tripoli for had said that in eastern libya had received an arms shipment from the u.a.e. and i think they're very very happy with what is currently going on because there is only just arrived yesterday into cairo to go meet with president sisi after an aborted trip to russia to go in with president putin so he's engaging these international actors that have no skin in the game so avoiding deflect attention from the very very actors the real actors that have skin in the game the french or the iraqis who are certainly happy to allow others to absorb the diplomatic presence or the pressure or the at least the perception of political power right what they continue to support after on the ground so let a very dangerous. camilla's game is going on here let's let's hear from francesco in rome francesco do you agree with. says western powers like france are playing a double game in libya and that haile for have to wouldn't have undertaken this

offensive on tripoli unless he had the backing of some of these powers. certainly western powers believe they are able to be friends and everyone in this very complex case in the case for italy for instance if the li is certainly very close to qatar but the things that have hedged itself also against the wrath of sate egypt or the saudis of the iraqi but turns out that it probably had estimated its own and its own insurance policies as it turns out proximity close ties are to egypt. of little use these days so italy is left wondering whether it did the man properly. then lead blaming it on france's an old italian handed especially when it comes to libya but yes. there is lot of ambiguity playing these days the ambiguity that our minds especially from from

the europeans because they clearly have competing interests in libya do you think that they can overcome these differences are they willing to lend to overcome these competing interests is interests rather in order to find a solution to this crisis india. i were i would make a distinction between those countries which are actually giving practical support to libya and those which are a two to two half dollar a big of on and those which are alleged to be supporting him politically or in some indirect way and i think the only countries that have been giving him real practical support so far are egypt and the united arab a moment arab emirates what about france's leave saudi arabia those are the road. from force helping libya helping haftorah earlier on as i said in in the his earlier campaign to establish control in the east of the country but i don't think

there's any evidence that they're providing practical support now. and i'm not going to get to the foreign minister has met as met after but he's also met saraj who's the leader of the the so-called government of national accord in rain tripoli the u.n. a lot of international leaders of met after the others as well and i don't think you agree with that you think the extent of france's support or is much bigger than what ambassador minus. i think the narrative here is important it's crucial have to establish himself a thousand and fourteen as the uncertain counterterrorism never overtly said that he want to take political power and allegedly was not part of any of the political solutions he was the scored by a member of the us administration as being toxic and thousand and fourteen and nobody wanted to meet him he had belittle it himself after a trip in may two thousand and sixteen to abu dhabi where he was tasked with missing faces was a total break in diplomatic protocol toll break in the negotiations that had been led by the u.n. thus far and then

a month later arrived in paris the first time it was at a european capital so i think this kind of joint amorality french diplomatic movement was that it was the gateway for him to establish this kind of political ambition and without that he would not be here he would not be where he is right now so i think it's also you know it's for him you know arabs can be deployed but so can your opinion so the idea that he can meet various presidents of ours and he can meet with her if after but when we measure tangibly what has been given to sort of ours and what has been given to have though it's a little bit and weighed on one side and is given tactical support military support intelligence gathering there is rumors now or at least online that people are saying that there were french military personnel masquerading as that limits the right to the losses that to the libyan border were stopped by because they had no true commitment when they were leaving so what would that be and again it's i mean even though those things are rumors i think we know and the french are very open about this right they have been working with have there for many years but they were also crucial to his political transformation and general is let's that let's be honest about this and francesco just coming back to italy you talked about

italy's role here and its support for the u.n. backed government but to what extent is it doing so and what are its interests here what is italy what does italy want out of a future libya the future of libya i think i think it's really acknowledge is that what is at stake is this debility of the entire broader mediterranean and so i don't think it is ultimately only. fixated with libya it certainly has a very strong interest in preserving saraj where he is the best i think it what it is what it looks is the broad the minute the rain in region from. almost of from the balkan tomorrow i think that the what is happening in libya is perceived here in rome as a proxy fight between opposite blocs in particular between

a saudi immunity bloc and turkey qatar the one so the last thing on earth that italy warns is a spillover of these kind of conflicts to other neighboring countries that is in particular to need gentle gilia. and it is also said to say that it's really is looking at the region in a way that is slightly different from the way in which the vatican is covering the same area if one looks at the latest tricks of the pontiff pope francis. pope francis has picked two destinations are the united out of any raids and and more rock which gives a very clear indication of what the vatican where the vatican stands italy's not going down the same path so for once at least this is silly and the vatican are

taking opposite directions at least when it comes to this we just which however is our near broke right now is our nation is unable that's and that's very interesting that you talk about the the difference in visit the difference in position between the vatican any time government all of them eyes d'italia and have been warning that libya could become another syria do you said at the u.n. do you think of that was the case could we see another foreign military intervention in libya. well first of all can i just make a point out a bit surprised to have a count of the italian position without mentioning the question of migrants because of italy's very sharp interest in libya at the moment it is the problem of the migrants who are coming through bolivia and most of them heading in the first place for italy but more generally are i think this this discussion seems to me to be in danger of getting slightly out of bounds because we're talking as though what is

happening in libya is being determined by outside powers i don't think it is i think we're talking about a fight between libyans in which outside powers may have played some part and perhaps will play some part but which was my first question to you in fact that which was my first question to all of our minds whether you thought that outside powers were making the conflicts worse well outside powers are they have their interests they have the legitimate or less legitimate interest in what's going on but it's no good not doing that what is going on inside libya is being controlled by america or russia or way to lee or from shortly what else is being controlled by the libyans ok and your thoughts is what is going on in libya being controlled by libyans or by the outside powers like. france italy we haven't talked about the americans and the russians yet and i do want to hear your thoughts about their will in this conflict. well number one if you want to ripen people

towards a peaceful solution any conflict in any kind of theater you need to be ripened towards peace you have to close all of the possible doors to war and the only way to do that is to enforce the arms embargo and that's the international community's responsibility it's not the libyans and that's not libyan citizens they can't run over to every city or border post in every single port and see for where these arms are being delivered so i think it's disingenuous to suggest that libyans want to fight many of those libyans they have been in western libya only mobilized to counter this existential threat and they mobilized into those eleven for the very same reason so we should be clear about what internationally is doing if they want to ripen this and they can't continue to have to they can't continue to allow the u.a.e. to violate the arms embargo to establish an air base in libya in two thousand and sixteen the very year that libya was supposed to be ready for peace that was the government of national accord that was installed in tripoli that time was the u.a.e. was trying to undermine that both politically and diplomatically and militarily so we should be clear about what the role of internationals are and what the

responsibility of libyans are so that's number one number two there's an ideological component all of this is well because after his narrative is one that appeals to the far right in europe over the last couple of years this wasn't populism want to view that it meant mediterranean especially north africa and the middle east as being dominated by terrorist threats dominated by islamists and that's one of the offers them a very simplistic very dangerous narrative that all of my opponents are terrorists all of my opponents are extremists the world is a bit more complex than that but it certainly appeals to the islamophobia roys in europe over the last couple of years and have there is just pandering to that sentiment and it's certainly one that has found grace at least in france but it's definitely a narrative that was established by the u.a.e. at the beginning of the arab spring and that's what it all comes down to we should not wrench this from its context as something that's happening that is wider than just libya and if you look at algeria look at sedan look at tennessee and look at syria this is not just about bill it's not just about balance it's about ideas right and ideas are much more dangerous than than the bill and let's allow all of the minds to respond to that of a response. what when i go i agree with

a great deal of that i think that if you want a scripture of after the attempt to appeal to these sentiments is quite correct and there are of course people inside libya as well who would who think that the only way that the advocate which will prevail in libya for the last six years i can say eight years can be can be remedied is by a strong man and have to seize him self and present himself as a strongman but that's only one element in the argument but coming back to my point about the. important thing being what the libyans are doing i don't dispute that foreign assistance to after side has been has been important but if you look at for example at the question of power in libya if any foreign power with a decent fortune to be now live it would have an enormous impact on the on the fighting what is happening in reality is that both sides both people and the

government of national accord managed to get a few antiquated migs into the air from time to time but that there was an aircraft which either shot down or came down for technical reasons yesterday it's a big twenty three and they've been in service since one nine hundred seventy so we're not talking about modern our forces which we would be talking about if there were serious intervention or for the arm of the well if we're looking about as i'm looking at that and there was the presence of tractors four of them that were the ploy allegedly by erik prince of the frontier service group formally of blackwater there were four chinese predator drones mimics of those called wing loons that are established that they were operational and buzzy and and that in a one hundred thousand people were displaced from that city where at least seventeen hundred civilians are now in jails and whether city is a city is overrun by radical salafist that are in line with others project that response to him so i think the international element gave the ground forces on the ground a critical strategic military advantage and so we shouldn't obfuscates it should.

this latest intervention in tripoli from the great a war that was going on is the libya where so many people have been displaced without the critical as a pool that would not have happened ok gentlemen let's bring back francesco into the conversation and get your thoughts on the extent of the role of the international community francesco in making this crisis worse and also what is the way out of it in your view if any for have to were to be successful in taking tripoli what would happen after that. i think that the at least from antalya standpoint the hope is that somebody is still a capable of reigning in half the time and the whereas hostile obviously aims at putting everybody in front of a fait accompli. so in the end this is why the italian prime minister keeps on holding all the time and he put me twenty min gives this speech in public he always mentions all the international summits and meetings and. an occasion sold

in which there was an international organization and a procedure in place just to convey the impression that there can be still order in north k.l. so i think that it did at the same time is realizing that this may ultimately not work out as desired so it is trying to head a little bit and that explains. the string of tool as of tips about italian cabinet member or not today and tomorrow the leader of the five stars movement that is the prime minister luigi my you'll find themselves in the united arab emirates. but obviously at the same time there are meetings at the highest level taking place with qatar and with russia so this is a point where no china i mean it's an it cannot allow itself to

a place only a single bed and it is trying to be friend everyone as an institution and i have been watching is someone at this stage capable of reigning in highly for have talked can he see for instance convince him to agree to a cease fire. let me give you a brief history of cliff after is a fifty year legacy of the section and defection in one thousand sixty nine he defected from the king of libya to moment at the feet in one thousand a six he was captured in chad and the fact that i said every night in a seven he went to langley virginia where i was a legacy working with the cia and then in one thousand a year went to go and work with the libyan opposition or have them get out of who defected from to go and work with but it's worse in holland and not to know it to you than the fact that from them right and were reconciled with my look at the if it doesn't fall in egypt has a level he defected from omelets or if you went to work in the revolution he defected from the bomb the first parliament thousand and fourteen ok we're not going to deal in thousand one thousand from the un fifty years of deception of the faction who can reign on someone that is that deeply mistrustful and there is that

is the main question today because the u.n. is trying to bring people back to the negotiation table to say what it will go and work out our differences how do you do that with someone with leslie distrustful and they've been a willing surrogate and proxy literally seven states over the last fifty let's give the last word please to oliver miles in oxford the united nations is still finds itself in a very difficult position today their response has been timid do you think the u.n. can still play a role in this crisis. i don't think that that outlined powers can intervene and in this crisis i think the role of the u.n. can play is to try to reinforce the others because of the slightly during this conversation cry try to make sure that they are embargo on the military support he respected because although that won't settle the matter it will it will limit the bloodshed at the moment let's be clear that the you are not talking about over one hundred people killed well it's not comparable with what's happening in syria or

yemen or what happened in iraq and it's comparable let's say water in gaza if the the fighting goes on if foreign powers are able to give war military muscle to go to those parties contending and in particular after those those. casualty figures will go up one hundred fold that's what we've got to avoid ok thank you so much gentlemen we're going to have to leave it there unfortunately we've run out of time thank you for ever for a very interesting discussion and friend. and all of a mind set and thank you as well for watching you can always watch this program again any time by visiting our website at al-jazeera dot com for further discussion go to our facebook page at facebook dot com for stash a.j. inside story you can of course also join the conversation on twitter our handle is at a.j. inside story for me for me back to you and a whole team thank you for watching my friend.

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their biggest stars just a few months before the world cup. hello protest leaders in sudan are demanding the new ruling military council be dissolved they want a civilian government to be formed immediately which includes representatives of the army that's been backed up by the african union which urged the military to hand over power within fifteen days the protesters are calling for the former ruling party of the pows leader ahmed bashir to be disbanded and its assets seized there also demanding the removal of the head of the judiciary his deputies and the attorney general. about what sort of. the objectives of the revolution cannot be achieved completely in the face of the backstage manipulations of the remnants of the regime or key demand that the formation of a civil council to guarantee the revolution is safeguarded and its goals achieved by technocratic provisional government with executive powers must be formed with

the consensus of the people live from hama val joining us from khartoum have we heard a response from the military council to the demands put forward by the opposition. not. right now the the expectation is that there will be some kind of reaction or some kind of commentary or a next round of talks between the military council and the leaders of the protests we have listened to they are them talking today that press conference they enumerated a long list of demands very powerful demands there the complete removal of the or that eminence and vestiges of the former all inc party and the former government they also demanded a new and speedy. speedy creation of a government a civilian government with only a limited military representation those are the major demands of the demands include a complete a form in the judiciary system as you have mentioned so right now the ball is in

the camp of the military council negotiations have been going on for the last two days but and expect today well that somebody after this will be an ass but that's not the case we have only heard the protesters leaders are eating their demands and asking their base to come in big numbers to the streets they think that the only got on tour of the. of the protection of the achievements of the revolution as they describe it is remaining in the streets in big numbers and showing that this is not this time around it's not like in the previous cases in sudan when the military took over and the pressure from the street but the hijacked that evolution's and they remained in power and the same despotic practices where there are people suffering from them this time around they said we have learnt a lesson in a very hard way and we have to make sure that that history does not repeat itself

in sudan they want a fully fully civilian government to take over now and not later they don't want the military council to also then and the they are now feeling. support from outside from outside as you mention. the african union the e.u. the u.k. and many other countries put pressure on the military council to cede power to the civilians sooner rather than later but the protesters leaders think that the real pressure and the real change will only come from the street and that if these demonstrations continue they can help really change the rules of the game in sudan and the expectation is that you know we'll have more developments in the next few days because we have seen very real developments over the last few days and expected actually and everyone here is expecting that if these protests continue and if they keep them one meant and they have now then there will be some results

as i talk now thousands and thousands are once again gutting in front of the heard waters of the of the army here in qatar not far from where our what our bureau is located and they keep they keep chanting slogans and the keeps growing over the night and that's something that is taken seriously by the military that have been rumors and unconfirmed reports that the military to today and also yesterday morning to try to disperse the crowds but in in fact they said they were not trying but the understanding is that they are testing the ground and seeing if the protesters in the street are still united and if they have still the main support from the. biggest support from the state and the other side the opposition also the ball in a way is in the camp of the opposition and the fortress is because the military council has given signals that they they are not against the creation of a civilian government and now it is the task of the opposition and the opposition

leaders and the protesters to come together and not to not to allow differences to prevent the creation of the government ok mohamed val with an update from khartoum thank you well there's a major operation going on right now in paris that's where they're not sure the drill is on fire let's cross to our european news center where maryam namazie is standing by with more on that. major story unfolding in the french capital right now the medieval catholic cathedral is a blaze the the pitches certain suggest that the fire is out of control flames engulfing this historic building in paris firefighters are on the scene they are clearly struggling to get this fire under control. they have been deployed to the area but it has been billowing from the roof and i think the suggestion is that the roof has now collapse of the cause of the blaze is not yet

know in the position is that it was probably an accident but we do know that renovation what's under way a sign of passion but the joins us live now from paris crash what can you tell us. so extraordinary scenes i'm i'm just not very far away for the not because people are going to break your break the barrier just a short time ago police who stood back because this is really a lock on to this. huge crowd with very clear very dark with a cold and it's made its way it's like right. next to. their glory if you could say if you don't worry about a pulse is a cathedral collapsed next to a cliff apparently part since the battle marco islam is what it will be practical here to televised debate this week because it's come to. the court in court is so

because well not just on the job i call it a simple it's hard people are so well versed well because. people getting to see it is really extremely sad because there's been people who. in fact took issue was that there was an old woman you streaming down her face. exactly this is a historic landmark it's so much at the heart of life in france and in paris as well and it draws millions of tourists every year what does it mean for. looks as though it's going to be very difficult to stop this fire but what good is the last of a landmark like this mean to france and to the world. well i think at this stage firefighters are hoping. to complete what they know is that they'll be able to stop the flow. of the garbage that's going on with up to get

it out of good gold was appalled by far is a false. doctrine because to. go off with. what they. believe the plane going to. get. it is the one. thing it is a national icon that is the people's power to save people. and i think. the two balls to be damaged. enjoy seeing it just. as i said they are people thank you. but many people people standing very thing is extremely too much. and the pictures that we're seeing

smoke billowing out from the top of the cathedral report saying that this part of the cathedral has collapsed and that the roof has collapsed as well can you give me a sense of the mood of the atmosphere around what is the reaction of those who is a very long side you watching this this extraordinary scene. well i have to say i mean it's absolute. the crowd to go off because of. the smoke up the salt i think it's kind of all cities talk to people away but of course people it took time . for grounding the company but there are people. out about. these all extraordinary because do you expect a building like this that everybody says well i'd like clinical power to be. this way. because i do you continue to be pretty difficult to imagine.

the thought of what we do know is. building work going all the. work. back because it. takes so much maintenance a thousand years old. what's going on this is how the fire started he. got. this riddle to see that as i said. he said. yes that's right and i know you're not. very sad night. and we can see more plumes of smoke plumes of smoke emerging from the building and actually a church folks and then having french media that all of not to dom's cathedral is burning after the collapse all this really does look as though we are seeing the

disintegration of a major historic building on the twelfth century. as we watch these pictures from paris and of course it is from.