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well as bronzes is far from unique more and more pillage countries are demanding the return of their cultural assets the trophies of the renowned museums of the western world. pillaged countries have a legal tool to negotiate for the return of their stolen treasures the nine hundred seventy unesco convention signed during the era of de colonization imposes on all nations to return objects obtained illegally. in recent years the pressure on renowned museums has intensified. the pergamon museum the most visited in berlin is obliged to know the origins of its collections. you start to understand that what you have here is not just archaeological object but it's part of the cultural heritage of the region or of these countries and at that point you realize you're talking about
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a political dimension or a cultural political dimension. as a director i cannot say i don't know when somebody asked me how did your collection actually come into being so my responsibility as director of this museum is to know everything about the object. while the key documents in this file are the ones that tell us basically that it was ok to take up the object and this we have to do for everything and considering that we have roughly five hundred thousand objects you know that this is a huge task ahead for us something that has to be done over decades really five hundred thousand objects all in here so that's an ongoing process that will all take until i'm retiring but the important thing is somebody is doing it every day because you have to have a lot of as i was this is september made
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a new going to close it got extended the present is an extent bush said you know it's good that he joins yellow give a spot example in just music lamisil never going off in a divorce exacta mud will be a. decision of. all the fragments you see here have been pretty good to see and we wouldn't be acquiring stuff anymore the pergamon stopped acquiring in the one nine hundred thirty s. forty years before the signing of the unesco convention which isn't retroactive this is. so the museum's collection is seemingly protected from demands for restitution but that's not the opinion in turkey specially in the city of god. young that you guys and they should. find you middle. name isn't. nameless and. that we don't at all my.
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name is that down on those i want the money i should when there was a debate the internet. yes smash on an average and then say that and i said it was when he was going to say from this is negative i've had. this black list includes objects and so in the british museum in london but also in the pentagon in berlin although they were all acquired before nine hundred seventy turkey still wants them back. it's not a question of museums anymore because it's a request of the state of turkey. they also are in the process of overcoming. colonial attitudes towards cultural heritage and in this process they have started to realise that. countries in the west have not always been upfront about their practices of acquiring collections binge eating ass
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of nation their lives. and they can. do given busy. busy gunson shante can and can't and then just. as said we didn't give. them a made. in this they are abusing in. the pillagers happened over a century ago but turkey isn't ready to forget. like china and italy turkey has made the restitution of its treasures a political priority. within its culture ministry the turkish government has set up a special restitution unit. forty or so lawsuits have already been won resulting in the return of over four thousand objects.
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one of the special units successes is the restitution of this music of orpheus stolen in the nine hundred fifty s. then purchased by the dallas museum of art after several years of legal wrangling the museum was obliged to return it. while pillage nations like turkey have a legal framework to demand reparations this isn't the case in the private sector where only the market rules. in this antique shop window how many artifacts have a perfectly established origin in many cases it's practically impossible to verify . does the private antiquities market have its own rules immune to international legislation you know asco had
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attempted to extend its nine hundred seventy convention to better control private transactions a new convention adopted in one thousand nine hundred five the convention on stolen or illegally exported cultural objects obliges sellers to prove the legal origin of an artifact it also obliges buyers to demand proof but although the original unesco convention is recognized by one hundred thirty nations only thirty seven party states have committed to the united wired convention. so the market is winning thriving with its own often shady rules chadian as embodied by the freeport system one of the main thoroughfares of art market
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trafficking. the best known are here in geneva but the exist throughout the world free ports were originally special economic zones which stocked in transit merchandise to reduce or avoid customs duties are dealers were soon renting space in these huge warehouses to discreetly store artifacts by allowing people to store all kinds of objects without the slightest control free ports have long been considered as a hub of antiquities trafficking it's estimated there are over a million works deposited here more than twice the number contained in the movie. this swiss establishment guarantees its clients one hundred percent confidentiality its high security site is protected from theft but also from prying eyes artifacts can be stored safely here for years simple as up
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a column on the. left you. know i mean you can join on would you like to find a not understood it should one miss with one on sauce fiske out. on a t.v. would order to keep the tax or look a mass nadal set up. no taxation and appealing advantage for our dealers while the works remain inside of freeport they can be sold and bought without being subjected to any kind of tax. customs duties are only paid once when a work definitively leaves the freeport a perfectly legal tax haven right in the heart of europe. these facilities explain why the gallery phoenix keeps most of its merchandise in
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free ports and these showcases only a small part of the collection is displayed the gallery belongs to tom one of the biggest antiquities dealers in the world. in twenty ten customs discovered in alley tons warehouse in the freeport of geneva this is second century romance a copper guess since then it has been the center of a complex legal battle. it will be awful you know all the people and sank our love and do i love on this on the on it off and off on dr to for that's not hope you bleak put on your own music . it's a decidedly i don't. know jane i'll call problem. first as a proposition to don't assume. you want do you think the jayco demitted idea dawna
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with doubts over the object origin the sale was finally cancelled as the so called because it was probably looted in turkey swiss authorities decided to allow it to ankara. let your key for me do cool let your key sit there. but get up was it you. implicity i did it all see aunt jackie amanda who thought they did agree. to set. this expose does she want to sit for you call the steam person yes you're reported for it so it doesn't keep as to the tunnel bruce doc. on a lot they're full of the story of it we'll be talking more live only the longer to declare a loved one or phone bill. except that after being restored in london this or coffee because didn't return to geneva until two thousand and nine so the turkish
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lawyer heading the case believes it comes under the new swiss law which demands every protocol origins for all works of art imported after two thousand and five in september twenty fifteen swiss justice finally ordered the repatriation of the second office to turkey but ali abu tom continues to claim ownership based on a certificate delivered by the company art loss register over four years that if you get a positive early. book of us by that suit the glare is that if you go out last night as you don't cope what is observed really classic may see. don't let down. you are good it. is sucky sucky sucky due to a for me. what is an art loss register certificate the precious open sesame of the art market
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a document which states that an object wasn't stolen. founded in london twenty five years ago as a private information service with over four hundred thousand listed objects lost register who owns the largest database of stolen artifacts in the world. for a fee any buyer or seller can ask art loss register to verify that a piece is not listed on its database. these registrations these. could also be registrations from a museum just in case items ever started on the register them on the database just in case they show off for sale somewhere else the most obvious examples of the surface from the national museum of iraq. in two thousand and three from two thousand and four. and what was amazing is they were very careful and you can tell it was well planned because they went into the basement once they started and
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everything and they destroyed all the documentation for the objects so that people would know what had been stolen unfortunately the major objects have been recorded else where. there you can see actually the different words that we've entered just to help bring that up so here they were. they were put. braided have something like that and. in the case of the baghdad museum an inventor really existed so stolen objects could be captured on to the database but in war zones very few museums keep precise inventer his and there's no way that objects discovered during illegal digs will ever be listed obviously that's incredibly difficult when you're looking at looted archaeological material that has been looted out of the ground it was taken out of the ground and potentially the only people that even know of its existence of the people who dug it out.
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and yet this certificate is widely used on the antiquities market as is the case for ali abu tom's sarcophagus. i wish i had paper powers. no i would say. it's we've always been very clear about what our certificates are for and they state very clearly that an item is not in our database and it's not being registered with us but that not every theft or loss or looting event is registered with us so it's not complete. the art loss register certificate nonetheless remains the main document a supplied by a seller to prove his or her good faith a precious certificate which can multiply the price of an object by ten but why is this provided by a private company and not by a public body at least on
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a european level changes in national laws you go across an interesting nation states in the make it very difficult to resolve issues relating to stolen art in particular because suddenly limitation periods change principles of acquiring good title change is something that people take advantage of to get around the system. and.
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that is not going to go away you have twelve leaders on trial here in madrid has not independence leaders on trial it is a hugely divisive issue you also have the economy that needs to be dealt with a lot of people we spoke to said that the high cost of living unemployment was one of the main issues so he has huge challenges ahead first of all forming that government and then secondly second tackling those issues a man who'd been detained in turkey and charged with spying for the united arab emirates has reportedly taken his own life in prison according to the turkish government zakk e m a son's body was found in some livery prison on the outskirts of istanbul sri lanka's president has appointed a new acting police chief after the easter sunday bombings that killed at least two hundred sixty people a new defense minister has also been appointed as part of the government's overhaul of the intelligence and security services however the current police chief putsch if jai a son daughter has refused to step down despite his successor being named china has
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been accused of failing to act on warnings that suicide bombers would target churches the turkish president wretched typer to one says he's banking libya's united nations recognized government in his battle against the warlord honey for her after the fighting has intensified in southern tripoli as government forces push back against fighters loyal to her leave her have to. insist on talks between the opposition groups and the military are due to resume on monday the two science will meet again after announcing the formation of a joint council on saturday nights. government says the number of dead. from five to thirty eight of course flooding in some areas and the rain is expected to continue over the next few days the united nations is giving thirteen million dollars in emergency funding to the komodo islands. those are the headlines the news continues off so we ought.
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with the absence of common legislation and with skyrocketing prices trafficking has taken on industrial proportions. of the man that it will be in the majority but they have a new set of very good but there are seven talent that this bill is even i didn't meet them look it up but. am i jealous and repeat this story to others a lot of the same is that the second. second at the argument and indeed a sound the bus if you know general tell it you don't know is that the teacher there that us earth out there is played as a catalyst to the brain activity think that as if it does today looters have direct access to the market all they need to do is post their object online where it can be sold anonymously in recent years the number of websites selling archaeological
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artifacts has increased our hundred fold on one of them we found this clay nail probably from a rock officially this type of object has been banned from sale since two thousand and four but on these platforms no one cares about origin export licenses or legal documents it's the final stage of what has become global trafficking. believed to be the third highest illegal trade in the world antiquities trafficking was rarely in the public eye and they usually got the. best it has gone unnoticed for years but footage of destruction by the islamic state of iraq and the levant isis has caused a major international commotion. on any i being here oh me my. theory let me. ask you who know.
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the music. music. the music. on your high i.q. . and. me and. the. song battle of this. kind of petition that c'mon dude mentee said you have. the state's destruction by eisel hides another reality much harder to measure mass looting. since
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its founding has been suspected of part financing its activities through antiquities trafficking. see poor could it be least now and again my gas would not stay said that they did and that to secure it that through said meldon i took into that this is like if i thought that. this was a key subject at a press conference to present the new red list published by i called the international council of museums for fifteen years i can has been publishing lists of rare objects from various countries which threatened to turn up on the international art market this time it concerned antiquities from iraq and syria suspected of financing eisel operations as proof that the subject is being taken seriously several international figures attend the meeting including richard
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stengel representing the us government who would launch the offensive or you might mr we just don't go and essentially has these the department. also why. are you going to. good evening i'm delighted to be here. what we've seen over the last year is i saw as weaponization of information and the cultural destruction that they're practicing is the seven ization culture so this is a destruction of history and destruction of culture and the destruction of human beings thousands of human beings at the risk of being too graphic. i would say that bearing or selling an artifact is where finance is the beheadings of muslims in the middle east. don't sell that's one quick solution.
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you know by now selling is a very good slogan it's obviously impossible to completely police it and to be certain about it. one of the things that we've seen is that isolates using existing criminal markets that have existed over ten twenty thirty years in the region they're using those people as middlemen to finance their operations. but how do we know what exactly is going on in the field absa the association for the protection of syrian archaeology has been recording cases of plundering in syria the association based in strasbourg and founded in twenty eleven at the outbreak of the country's civil war is headed by syrian archaeologist. according to information gathered by eisel isn't the only armed group plundering sites in syria
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all the actors in the conflict are to blame. lee. will act here in mass military talks here young. man year. an example. this is supposed. to dodge. city money on the many people. sick. young along with siri. what's the extended. this trafficking and how do the local networks that supply had to operate to find the answers you need to go into the field so sick most makes
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regular visits to turkey to meet other members of his association. only in the war is correspondents could easily cross the turkish syrian border but turkey recently closed entry into its territory. to simulate stock on. the c.e.o. but they are. not the sessions on the piece they did that you. push on it up to the cover. we see you. got to get it kitty don't use it on the case for to increase never be you know his last post the plessy able to come up it will be to find. the c.e.o. but look i'm going to mitt romney job to sit in a semi no suitable place let me take you to. the.
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and i limited my sight on oh my most new vanish joint program is repeated beyond your people be any possible did not know me. sick it can't have yes it is what i do why do you speak that nobody. should have been meant for the level you didn't get stoned on those you prove also why he personally am if not to respond it's there you are going to continue to contact. b.s. guy to a school could go to others or more you know not only can you. say
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hello to. say not so long ago it was still possible to cross the border and large quantities of merchandise alive here in gaza and ten sixty kilometers from the syrian border. according to several sources this turkish city is a hub for the trafficking of objects plundered by isis showing bush who can't. show the money. doesn't have is full of antiquities stores in one window check most spots what he thinks ossified smuggled in from syria. before the good luck that lead you to start.
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then stop the pollution i'm ashley initialises. you're seriously seriously. you know this whole thing. seems to be a. particular sound with music on the unit i'm actually happy and then there's the insults you see today normal most if you still miss it but the city but it. isn't. serious and. you. shouldn't. be allowed the yellow new york. there was another the one in the muslim american ramadan i mean there are not and they are.
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not all of them. they get that someone almost. made it about it gives them with a paltry. amount of. maple one of these objects as you sample if not for your visual if it. can rationally. because we don't want credo people to use well sure because it would be spitting police action maybe only peña nieto live. in or. see the city react to. the. last minute they always. did i think in norman i said the need some part of me a very dizzy. or blanket child they tell me
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a good deal and make. the. community. obs to see kim keep on a lot then buy it if you can match them but not us if you cannot be chic they do critics any mail was a wreck is no santa claus nasty son they thought that the sun don't. shine korsakoff's on a lead the german just sang a bad. day. yeah the cossack of their heritage i cannot sit at the back exposed to shit called passe. i it's no longer possible to publicly sell all purchase an archaeological object without legal documented proof of origin. the pressure on private collectors has increased. any of their acquisitions can be examined at
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a time. for profit from. amazon the server. is the one. reporter super. woman and when you say he's the one i also don't know what i think your walk on water is both evil and emotional he is a pretty careful if you are going on a gallop sources say forty killed in a bud which is fitted with a legal right to. a legal question the clues each year and a kid my two kids like you are a place group is cool going to see if i move knowing me into the p.s.u. monder p.s. before that it was just truly did exactly what i think that it will see him although he's in tucson. some don't say i want except that of course i loved. to ski or.
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exclusively with forces you to get you follow a call on somebody to go on is a subset also a matter of others not because of the economy weighing on them. their funding talk all but it was our. laws to do employ. since civil code or is offered there to. please report the rules to receive a similar deisel is a question when yeah it was a plea to divorce not in an easier or repressed morton when yalit in the shura. or the full three or me a gal or the little girl or a school where. after an eight hour search the customs officers seized one hundred and twenty three pieces archaeologists have estimated the value of the collection
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at ninety five thousand euros the collector will be questioned further the customs offices is facing three years in jail. she got it took it as. if you were there if you don't. know what. they're calling you or if you have lost it but. it's a hippo fused. into. the shop. as european dealers and collectors are subjected to a growing number of controls they now represent only a small part of the international antiquities market far behind the chinese a new category of collector has appeared every year in europe they flock to spend. allies to auctions ready to spend fortunes to buy back their national heritage.
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a spending spree that has seen prices skyrocket and guaranteed. that he's now getting. very good. i see steve as nice but i'll sell out the he's a modest you want to preach if the good all events don't and the taliban for the. meat puppet who will have tens of so you may appreciate one of these example. bodies home again venton the needy leaky belong to. me you know whole thing can go on his bus like usual police hold on the media on wheels and so me to demean and oh. yes he's doing it you better mention your ass right there you had a better you coming up afternoon on a boat up jet sheen. that's it the no sick you don't got boy sitting there up at
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a youngish. right after this is always rather a elated don't pee on me you saw softer august second friday it did. such a good to do or not but i could put that question right on about i am a citizen of the little place i'm not don't send this only present both on. i don't. want to forcibly. did that. except they didn't i say a defense of a new says so i began. to reason gomez is sure he'll find a nato is prepared to buy this chinese steel is because wealthy chinese buyers are willing to invest fortunes in highly symbolic assets. these assets include a good number of plundered national treasures objects with a high financial and ideological value. purchases are driven by
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a strong patrie arctic feeling and encouraged by the state. of the elite in the euro hundreds. if a town tour and the. pension down obama leaving when the hot. hot to go to way your heart out being shared city utah. her. this is believes that those who wish to become cultured should invest in safeguarding national heritage she has even founded an association which aims to repatriate historical masterpieces through any means. food see that records see the. so much of that soil tashi you tenderfeet how shitty that means that this is your father said that the he lead could see him truly that
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jennifer taiyo show that evil will. not go miss regularly visits mrs barnes home and headquarters to collect the funds necessary for buying back plundered chinese works that are sold in europe i am a foreigner working in china since long time i understood that when there isn't a question of really when. there is no beyond of china's but only one voice it's a national really it belongs to our national and everybody is saying the same things you know is very different than our countries. when german soldiers. are terribly day. but what you're there to hear don't hit the bush would you do it or the bush would you do it or perish or come is this care tony the only just to wash out and up. to what i tell you she shall and about our torso.
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so soon quade so gentle so gentle function or she should go back. to your feet haha. saw that soldier she is out that you open. the message got across in the west to plundered artifacts must be returned to china otherwise sooner or later you will be held accountable former president of the french union of antique dealers christian did he personally paid the price. in the late one nine hundred ninety s. he bought a collection of chinese gold plates the for selling part of it to french businessman hong swapping nor for one million euros later the two men donated the plates to the queen mainly newseum in paris one.
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a few years after their donation the chinese announced that the plates had been looted and beijing demanded the repatriation in two thousand and seven the first lawsuit was filed but not pursued eighty years on. received a phone call from the french culture ministry is all de baets see. nuno. don't see it if i see you don't send you pool i've done as you need for the children. but only real name law accomplices. ok so question did he cancelled his donation to the green a museum and flew to china to return the plates to the authorities the other generous patron of the arts francoise pino would return his plates in person to the chinese ambassador in paris
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a month before the official visit to beijing by french foreign minister fabulous a model for cultural diplomacy. count. on. dani baggage but they claim as you all were. but. the debt is very immune film it is yours she averred the receiver will receive a little less all fed will do the needy bears the i pray you had to deal guess your loss. bargaining that has taken on a new dimension. and. parity is now being
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used for political leverage as a bargaining chip between states. the status of antiquities has changed once thought of as part of the heritage of all mankind cultural assets are now being held hostage by armed groups and used by states to narrow nationalist political and economic agenda that's. action is needed by imposing tougher rules recognized by all through international organizations cultural heritage may regain its true place in our societies.
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however we have seen some rather live shots into the western side of the amazon but there was a facility lost a fine and little bit of cloud that just making its way across riyadh some showers here as well in the process known as little further north which is to go on three monday to the south of that it is settled and sunny twenty three celsius the full want to say i was a little bit of cloud just sliding in the cross no i'm positing that over the next couple of days it will turn cold or winds coming in from
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a summer direction for want to seris on she's day off names seventeen souses top temperature that was there pushing up into power why and what's the weather say still around that western side of brazil ecuador pushing across into peru maybe even up into columbia seeing some pretty heavy showers in the heat of the as pay usual some showers to into the carriage but based on audience generally satellites of sunshine here the great surround cities where we are going to see the heaviest of any down poles some rather heavy rain making its way across the southern half of cuba a few shallows that too into the dominican republic to make a list launching fine and dry but we would have the possibility of the just coming in here as we go on through choose day fair weather clouds that just around the last around today since last he settled and sunny with more pleasant weather week. sponsored by countdown and. one of the richest fernand therapists in the world renowned for financing endeavors to eradicate some of the west diseases. bill gates
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talks to al jazeera about his foundation's goals and on says those who are critical . on al-jazeera. this is al-jazeera. hello and welcome i'm peter w. watching the news hour live from our headquarters here in doha coming up in the next sixty minutes. a win for spain socialists but they will need coalition partners to govern. turkey says one of two men held
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on suspicion of spying for the u.a.e. has taken his own life in prison. a rare meeting of afghan elders begins in kabul to discuss ongoing efforts for a peace deal with the taliban is not there. and talks between sudan's ruling military and the opposition restart with more discussions on the transition to civilian government. spain's governing socialists have picked up the most seats in the elections on sunday but with nearly all the votes now counted it looks like they won't have enough for an outright majority and for the first time a far right party is to enter the parliament sonia gago reports now from madrid. they won the race but there is no certainty of forming a government yet as socialists triumphant in their win by lacking an outright
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majority. if i did any of the spaniards have sent many messages today we have sent a message of what we do not want we do not want to go back we want to country to look forward into the future we have also sent a message to europe and the world that we have won and rejected or thord tarion ism . the way it is they may be but now they have a duty to form a coalition one possibility the left wing anti austerity together we can party its leader public less yes has already said that he is willing to support the socialists as there. were several years elections in spain have not been about winning but about convincing people about making up the numbers we are an essential political force for the formation of a left wing government is not spain. but the numbers still do not add up to
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a majority they would need support from regional parties in particular the catalan pro independence groups the alternative a deal with the center right citizens party but comfortably form a coalition in terms of numbers they have been one of the surprises of the election they come almost neck and neck with the people's party the p.p. the traditional opponents of the socialists in general elections were two party race but this election has brought the worst results in people's history battered after a corruption scandal punished by some of its followers over its course of action when confronting catalan pro independent tests this is a party now in deep crisis a grand reckoning sealing their fate for now. was not we will fight even harder this is only the beginning we told you we will start reconquering and we are initiating that conquering with
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a presence in congress vox is here to stay. but the latest player in this race folks struck out and claimed that own stake in the game. was made says that's extremely happy with the results of the night knowing supporters by far right not spots and now they're behind me here listening to the leaders. as well as they could about it dissipates it and they are the new force in the lower house of parliament. and with boxes games nationalism is back in spain. i. ally now apart from this politics in europe so now you go al-jazeera madrid. to the spanish capital and our correspondent stephanie a win for the left but the result is a bit more complicated than that. it is it's all about forming a coalition and that is going to take some time to try and get into the details
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about what could be quite a complicated issue let's talk to my guest is a political analyst thank you for joining us what is the coalition going to look like in your opinion who are the parties that are going to be joining. well versed the possibility of. a coalition between the socialists and the centrist party the citizens party that put the numbers of that but that is very unlikely because the citizens party has been adamant that they would not to her join a coalition with the socialists so the only possibility. is a leftist coalition with the party of their most which is to the left of the socialist on which some supports their seats key how much support of the nationalist parties it could be a minority government i think that is what the prime minister sanchez will try to do he will try to keep it i noticed the government of just socialists but maybe their most hard left will have the chance to join in will demand joining in the government and perhaps some ministries that would be
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a first in spanish politics now. no i mean a lot of people are saying that the landscape of spanish politics has completely changed i mean how would you describe what it has completely changed i would say is the second point that change we saw the first spot a few years ago when it was in the left that there was turmoil the entrance of a new party all the most which was very very harmful to the socialists of the time and gave the victory to the right now it's haven't exactly the opposite the left is still from meant it but not evenly split has allowed the socialist to win the election clearly but it's not there very the right the time has been fragmented into three parts which are three small pots which gives them. far less seats many far fewer seats than they than than they would spend of the spec to turn off with eleven million votes and gives left them demoralized and i think in a very very box shape in all the two to now trying to rebuild themselves and become
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an alternative and the engines of books into parliament the far right wing party i want to ask you about how significant that is and then roll into also the challenge of the whole catalonia issue while it's a significant symbolically because it's one of the first for spanish politics to have a far right party by lament it has twenty three seats twenty something seats. on the performance of what the polls indicate. i guess they are not very happy they were expecting not just to have a better sold but also to be in a position to influence the government they want be they can still influence some deviates from parliament but it's not what they were looking for they will have another chance in one month there are other elections to local regional european they can for votes but the truth is that in general it can be the spring described as a flow ok and just briefly the catalonia issue it has not gone away there is
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a trial ongoing in madrid if he does end up in. such as into a coalition with any of these parties what kind of pressure are they going to apply and how you going to see this has run its course over the next couple of months but not a coalition that is out of the cards but he may demand support from the from the catholic nationalists won't the main demand of the nationalists will be a problem upon them for their leaders who have been tried in court for very very serious crimes sedition rebellion of this country steve prison sentences on they were the mass father for them this is very it's going to be very controversial the prime minister will have to think it through because it's very very complex and also they will demand a refund of independence a legally binding referendum independence and they would be emboldened because their results have been good. so yes so the issue was not go away that's for sure this is what oh thank you very much for explaining what is a political complex situation it's also a huge challenge going forward for the new prime minister he is
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a man who's come back from very difficult circumstances he was ousted from his own party in two thousand and fifty that took to the road in his own car visiting cities and towns talking to members of his party just to get back into favor which he's managed to do he has now received the mandate of the people but it's not going to be easy but yes i think it's going to be quite some time before we know what capacity exactly this next government is going to look like stephanie thank you. a man who's been detained in turkey and chance and spying for the united arab emirates has reportedly taken his own life in prison according to the turkish government zakia my son's body was found in a livery prison on the outskirts of istanbul two men were earlier arrested happened this month they reportedly confessed to spying on arab nationals simcoe so who has more from istanbul. fellow simian national was arrested by the turkish police with one of his friends and the turkish police they have confessed to have been be
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health of the united states and turkey for a while the i.r.s. happened after following in a couple of months of technical surveillance by the turkish intelligence on those people intelligence followed those two are out nationals for a couple of months and when they contacted a suspect who's name is on the investigation file of murder intelligence warned the turkish police and they arrested those two people according to the sources and uncle route they believe that. between turkey and egypt turkey and u.a.e. and turkey and saudi arabia have been strained mainly following the military coup in egypt in two thousand and thirteen those three countries have lost their intelligence gathering. and now they are trying to. build up an intelligence network and this is what the turkish. believe in ankara right now and that's why they say they think that the united arab
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emirates is using other our nationals. inside truth to you what we have learned so far is that these people who were here to follow up with what nationals what they are doing how they are living mainly muslim brotherhood members who have in most have moved to turkey following the military coup in egypt in two thousand and thirteen and a press statement. today suggested that. who has killed himself on sunday in his solitary confinement. by the warden. early morning hours. he hanged himself on the door using his clothes right now an investigation is under way and an autopsy on his body has been done. in english language newspaper. political tensions between turkey and the u.s.
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. i think it's significant for the for the fact that turkey now will not be able to gather further information. on on their more divisions or or what sort of. game day had in turkey in terms of political implications i think it's also important because the you we will you know will try to use this against turkey based on its already existing rivalry as toadies but you know this is not something that will serve this is this is not a message that will really serve to turkey's interests these are we did find that right after they were arrested.

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