we must remember that the majority of political violence is not carried out in the name of any particular religion and certainly not only in the name of one in twenty seventeen here in the diverse london area finsbury park a man drove a van into the crowd leaving a mosque saying he wanted to kill all muslims but does the securitized response reflect this complex reality i've come to ask the young people here for their experiences. i was. more than five times within two months i felt that i was came because. i was actually a few times as well. which i didn't think. it was a norm in that time and still now i think that you expect them to stop it's not nice . but every now and then it happens the narrative it has been going around such

a long time writing it. bearded man carrying it back i get. suspecting that's a reality it's a sad reality you mean you have internalized it become like if i am a person of muslim faith and i get like that i am the same what the other people might fear as well and i don't think it's necessarily it's the fault of the people is to responsibly with the media we've done that people who offer therapy who put this narrative out there bearded man or a man of certain color may cause harm this needs to change we are kind of like brainwashed to think that. so does this obsession with security just affect muslims do others feel that they are suspects as well looking at post nine eleven and how you have been experiencing a lot of terrorism attack and so how did you live through those years and how do you look at. how authorities have been dealing with this it was challenging because

people's perspective of the minority group had already been made up and their mindset towards people of color people of faith people from about kwame really didn't understand it was the fear of the unknown and we suffered from the collateral damage of that what's now expected of minorities after this event i feel like they're expected above and beyond decency in a sense to not be perceived as a new center menace or any of these things i think it's quiet devastate in how. we're automatically labeled with doing certain activities based on person's actions is not the best example for the younger generation if they have to walk around in fear thinking all because i look like this automatically i'm going to treat it like this it will be like this in the future about how people live by race gender or

religion you well it doesn't have to always be like the more you are probably will be of the soul is its core certainly from ferment and. living in this traumatized society everybody's living in fear of being judged being pointed a big key to being isolated how can we now face tomorrow knowing this is what people think of us while the british government claims to celebrate diversity many feel that their main policy against violent extremism reinforces these attitudes. given the right comes in we need to. be represented in terrorism because terrorism and the. go to this place isn't just the. president's pants or the government's contest strategy which the counter-terrorism initiative. is for

example. that somebody might be vulnerable to radicalization or extremism might be looking for a change in behavior a change in social groups that young people apart so moved for example it might be that people might sound a bit more aggressive they might. say if that's like in something from a far right websites or in the repeats in knots. a change. in the suddenly an increase. say the top three zero zero zero definition of the lessons indeed absolutely. my son ten six police officer from. a lot of questions about his arabic teacher and what he was learning and.

why is he asked me the same question again and again. i didn't know my rights i feel like there is this big dollar hole i. know knowing because i sent my son to school. we've documented nearly five hundred cases of individuals impacted by prevent to date these cases demonstrate both. framework operates within the policy but also we have now seen how the policy has created a collective trauma to the community including children so it's in essence the policy has created what it's supposed to be fighting essentially you have to distance yourself from your family you just feel more and more isolated day by day . just share your constant fear you have to do it alone whether

it's teachers or doctors your social workers anybody you have this mistrust of everybody because you don't know anymore who to trust and you don't know what will happen to your children if you go to a doctor or if they were portrayed as someone. it's very interesting to see that which george orwell was wiping out decades has in effect now materialized. it speaks a certain language of authority and speaks a certain language of demonization of certain groups or racialized a certain approach to discrimination that is unnamed. growing up since nine eleven this generation starts from a completely different perspective than other generations would one where it starts

from a point of view of fear of a certain vulnerability of having to prove itself almost being paranoid all the time this. very sense of uncertainty but also of a certain vulnerability. to find out how this might affect young people psychologically i've come to meet the virgin introduce a psychologist who deals with marginalised young people. threat is the number was on the bus were really you know we're told it's everywhere we're told we're supposed to be highly suspicious of everybody and everything and i think it has a real impacts on one's sense of self as we know children are incredibly receptive and perceptive you know if a think that their teacher or star of our or even mental health professionals are screening them that starts to really fragment the way in which you can have a relationship with a young person and yet today we have kids sitting in

a class and feeling that they are in a policing system and the impact is you don't belong here you don't fit for a child who's developing and trying to find a way of being in the world that's a huge. sort of rebuff and i think that what i've seen then happens is that the narrative grows of everybody feeling that difficulty with this child suddenly children and then find themselves excluded not in mainstream school they're in people refer units young people that i've worked with can find themselves there and really have a struggle you know internally about is this me is this is this the person i am well actually yes people are telling them it is that's why you're there and then i think there is this sort of gathering momentum for many of them not all of them to join gangs yet to join to join because because that's the trajectory and it's very difficult to resist. being labelled

threats leads in many ways if the person is not a threat and if they are innocent to a sense of injustice many rip. sure that injustice and out of your nation are factors in making people susceptible to the appeal from groups like islamic states who have found ways to turn the west's glamorization of violence against itself. the mission impossible type of movie or a. type of t.v. series where this is all staged and presented as the logical normal narrative of the new world in the event. the paradox of the imagery as it is literally downloaded on these youth is that it becomes internalized the look at it the process that they themselves tend to sometimes have to find ways to act in the video game for hours. and then many of those ending say in the military of

the united states on forces and in effect replaying those very techniques through the drones that they will send to kill a young man. somewhere in pakistan. you'll be. lucky to. get either. one of the key innovations of these was its platform the videos that they have upgraded to a much much more different level of sophistication of quality and. then in effect a certain entertainment driven hollywoodized a video game kind of approach which we hadn't seen. pacifically when it comes to the group from the western world i think it was kind of a perfect storm of the manner in which an entity like these live in states full was very slow. and they spoke directly to them there's many many videos by isis saying

to these communities you know what kinds of lives are you need even there are you happy that wanted to come here why don't you do that. welcome you to music monday for a call false whenever you're not fit for me let me clearly as you can creep they speak to vulnerabilities they speak to a sense of identities and development they speak to them in connecting it with the realities of discrimination that they're going through. oh you do i think there are a lot of issues conflated here so so the first is this idea that you know the muslim community is being spied on frankly most of these cases that we've seen the court cases have been young man whether we like it or not they are the majority of

people who are being attracted to these you know narratives that are coming out many would dispute that maybe but i'm just telling you what i've seen in the research that are done of over three hundred court cases the majority of them have been very young and they've been mayo and they've tended to work in networks so they will tend to know each other as well today a young muslim male around the world particularly in europe and in north america feels a certain stigmatization this is a fact we've had conversations with educators addressing that and feeling that that's precisely the trigger factor i think it does a great disservice to the same people from the same community the same religion same background who don't use those grievances as a way to then declare war. whenever you see going far away to kind of unleashed this violence or join causes that seem important to them let's say for instance people leaving france to go to the levant and join islamic state what's interesting with one is that there is

constantly a reflection about the dimension back home how to go back to that society and punish. this is a group of people that left grabs went to syria but yet what was seemed the most to be high on their mind was to pitch an attack where they would ship back on to that society which is their society where they grew up with which you have grievances. i think it went beyond their wildest dreams in the sense that it became something of a moment of global it's in that sense that it's important what that the kid didn't

say or in minneapolis see into that that led them to go enjoying this it has inevitably points about how they consider themselves you need to reject. geno do you know your t.v. set is what you hear about it pushing the students from the east the west us yourselves. well i wouldn't follow this woman even marriage you are one. if one wants to be honest you have to see the relationship with intervention influence and that played out and seizing me for the past couple of decades you know these operation that took place in iraq and in syria and in the south held in libya.

you cannot see that these actors simply come on the basis of this ideology which is apocalyptic and ignore the fact that in many cases they are linked to these conflicts and led to this generation that had basically as a way of life. in the. evening was just simply took it into. the narrative has been sold semantics that this is basically all about religion and islam and these guys are coming from there to attack the western world and these people are totally irrational removing the politics out of that removing the history removing the colonial imprint. the foreign policy the interventionism

extracting all of that and they think this as a set of extra terrestrials descending from the sky because we have our own societies. whether it's a mule nato or the united nations a need for these top policymakers that are working on the signing these counterterrorism policies and engaging with them. the difficult thing is to have go beyond that which is familiar to them. particularly problematic is the cultural reading to understand western terrorist of the one nine hundred seventy s. such as bottom line off in germany or the italian red brigades one is invited to examine the societal conditions of say post-war germany and italy and their relationship with their rebellious you rightly so to make sense of all tied up in the islamic state one is to read. so clearly what we have right then and there is

one yardstick social to understand one type of violence and one yardstick religious to understand something else that in fact may not be that. the paradox in these policy circles is that all these professionals produce detailed reports that identify the causes of extremism as things like poverty lack of opportunity in a sense of alienation and yet the policies that get implemented always emphasize policing surveillance and punishment racism itself sits and question at the heart of this discussion on isis with the violence being that the european and the american consider exceptional inacceptable not because of what it's doing obviously terroristic and violent but because of women there is target. i can't just. say.

in a clear. position not. even. that there. isn't in my dad beauty. but delusion is. going to demand constant. plans for more if an additional hundred years me when he spat upon see the phenomenon. for the. second question bob barr says something. and many young people have reacted with violence as the position of a stereotype in many countries means that they face lives with fewer opportunities than their parents. i. found. to be.

one of the strong narratives in the western world about these faraway places is that they really literally waiting to. violence that is already there in many ways it's actually insulting to these parts of the global south where the youth themselves need largely very normal lives and their frustrations are of a different nature.