the time that we needed to think more critically about priorities and it was felt that high education wasn't one of those priorities like. the big universities the ones with. the ones with the elite used to go and preach the fees by double digits the logical thing to do because as the subsidies gay you want to retain quality you. the poor universities couldn't do it so they did increase fees but by no one a month. this is a special moment for me as i symbolically as. the vice chancellor stripped of that university. god.

i was. was. they didn't make me sit on the floor i came to them and i said. i was criticized by the vice-chancellor they said i gave birth to the struggle to give oxygen to substances their right. i did i do you know those who didn't want. to move to see the movie you know the two new don't want to do to you do you understand now the it was. i

was and it is to keep this university. quality institution and that means i need to keep its income streams so there's no way i'm giving. until the state makes up the. i don't have be but in his student days was probably the equivalent of what we are now. i don't know i know him that he wasn't life but we hear that he was progress. tedham sees himself both as a scholar of the left and as a participant and now finding himself in a position of authority in which that authority has constantly been challenged by this emerging student. i believe profoundly that the world will be a fog better place. if we lived and created a more egalitarian outcome. the struggles of the

free education system is an important player in that together to. have. had a meeting of this nature taking place where the university management the executive committee of council would have to sit in front of students and engage with the students it is what wouldn't tell you who's in who's the. person to. know who's under new management and not management to sit in the.

you see. people you see. ya. sturbridge there's only been nine university assemblies this is a creation where the entire university comes and decides on a particular issue a burning issue hope you get blocked off suddenly the class that completely shut it down did the private security tempus control but campus control was on our side was and we understand that they wanted to do it on the lawns because it's much easier to disperse people in an open area oh yah around one o'clock they still hadn't opened it up it was who

owned the power structure in the university been immersed and actually the students really for a moment for a while were in control is the response was . was in the last time we had a significant generational conflict was the sixties early seventies. and i think we entering that moment again you're beginning to see it in multiple manifestations you seen it in the emergence of student protests in south africa was

that statue symbolizes the exclusion of black bodies from a particular space and it stands there proudly at the entrance of the university and that's symbolism is a representation of how much needs to change was was that our judging. if you can have an education that is number one f. or centric way african ideas. at the center and important and over emphasize as whiston ideas ah where we have african ideas being valued. african knowledge systems being valued. then for me that is d.

couldn't i say shit. my we got comfortable a settlement house. it was so important in building new nitty instantly down amongst ourselves. my mom. and dad education team also started to playing around with the idea of what would the library look like they'd provided also in no tentative it created a world we wanted to live in. afflicted us to come into the ideas will find expression let's put them to test this thing through together. i mean there was something about affirming a way of knowing something that has not been affirmed in this place was a language a song a grandmother sang with you just feel something you know in your whole life has

been affirmed. and for you to claim like that space is to take you own the land. last. by monday we had a call to meet the minister and when the minister had engaged us the idea of the

six percent which is inflation no real increase. we bought into the. stakeholders agreed to encourage there to spread to constituencies to engage in institutional new causations at universities with a view to achieve if crisco for not a higher than a c.p.i. of related increase of six percent for twin to sixteen. the. decision is don't accept this risk. students must. think i've got. the anger among students had left us had joined us. students had entered the back of parliament and eleven side in the gate was open in

the frank and we just ended it was when you got inside that's when the shit hit the fan. please respond differently to white protesters and so quite spontaneously whitehurst curtis's were austrian to offer themselves into the front of the march such that they could protect some of the black students and it worked once or twice but when it got to parliament and people realize that they these people doesn't matter what color they're going to storm this parliament this is like and he started given that we need to stop this. was. i had never seen the power of students like that i think back. was. it.

was. was it was. you doing this for your children also you can't afford the cities as well and yes yes i'm sure he's. was was. the emergence of some sort of beginnings of a national coalition that exists outside of the control of the a.n.c. ally but it really just represents a growing movement that people are realizing that they need to work together and

over to make it against. militant islam to me was. i was was i wanted to turn and was. with him and she's standing there on the stage and i see this is. this guy must come down it was all staged to be us who. was already the students for movement came about ok nikki it belongs to everyone and no one at the same time and i think that's something that i'll do sometimes forget that we're stuck to dinner very different way to talk politics that they used to. i got a call from the presidency saying when he says i have to consult asian movie see i

released a statement saying the university vice chancellor is a back street citizen. there are some people who said that well this is a flip flop actually i don't buy that we see ourselves as progresses but in a kind of managerial position and who are governed by the systemic parameters. you know when spaces open up we take the opportunities and when systemic i mean to open up afterward his name only who hate you take the gap now flip flop it's understanding how social struggle. to works and to actually think engage in what i call a structural transformative struggle led. was .

that there will be a zero increase of university fees in twenty sixty was. the one you know that has been taken up until now from here on the fee for people from the oval office and just trying to do some of the roof. was was. the. was. the. we continue to use the nursery keeping your younger. but. what is your first trip for you to find out we're not. going to.

give up my. yacht. yes vits when we got there we saw flames we as leaders felt that it would be a good response about to take students inside. defiant. we sold showed us that we went exactly as united and as on the same page as we thought well what resort as like kind of middle class activists was these guys taking the cops on and wanting to storm the union building. these are students from poor black high education institutions who in fact been struggling around exclusion for a long time was. not that stuff and i feel that this time it's got to come as are inside solvents marching politely on the outside and renovates when students wanted to jump on the bus some of these other students were in the end wanted to attack them and say this

is how you guys go back to your we started to white institutions and settle for north percent and everything's ok we can do that we're going to be excluded next year because we can't afford even the north pacific god. is nothing more violent than poverty and we come from poverty stricken homes and that is why we are fighting for free education you say it like you will not be cheated you would not stare into as if it's a choice but it really isn't because if you do retreat already lived where it was. the. last. may on al-jazeera. the world's biggest democracy goes to the polls we focus on the

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portrayed. and i called them. so. what's the issue here are you suggesting i asked him if he was suggesting that the march twenty fourth letter was inaccurate and he said no but that the press reporting had been inaccurate and that the press was reading too much into it and i asked him you know specifically what his concern was and he said that his concern focused on his explanation of why he did not reach a conclusion on obstruction protesters in venezuela have clashed with security forces after opposition leader called for the largest march in the country's history police fired tear gas at several hundred demonstrators who were trying to block a highway near where attempted to start a military up prizing on tuesday pro-government protesters also gathered outside the presidential palace in caracas in support of president nicolas maduro.

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we. it was a very very difficult point in the movement because there were clear reasons why we had to continue and then there was just not enough momentum. and not enough energy. to. come undone and that if it's not for you saucy is the end i was to get that if i could issue the syria to see and feel increment in one week maybe if we can push for longer we can achieve more. we have the university by the scruff of the neck i do we get out and we

can squeeze more out of it. the number was less significantly less than it was before but the work was still there in the original number that they were so it was very difficult to look workers in the eye and say to them we're done we'll see the issue later earlier. in the future you know what on offer was that if need for. much what needs to what they needed and that's it any more i'm not laughing about me than you do. that you or you know. something i don't know about a lot of your hands at that and said that. you could say yes immediately. but by i would be in violation of my mandate i would not have to understand the financial implications of the decision i cannot make a decision now and declare bankruptcy three months later that would be a response. to

. the. all or. the. was precinct is an education is able to transform radically society what is the primary source of university it's not the papers that get annoyed in them externally. it's the young people young minds that come through an institution. this has been a system that has really taught almost

a he didn't curriculum to everyone who comes to a university that it's ok to treat poor black people as if they are sub human we've managed you know to show that if we united and if we're mobilized we actually have a very strong voice and we have a very strong influence over what happens at our universities and if an employer society. we have to find the money now arjen fifty million cut you can do once you can do it again and if you implode this institution you break the institutional mechanism that can address inequality in this. when i brought in the world security instruction is no guns. no purpose for. children but you can't our weapons of aggression if you like the strict controls. the input of the yankee you know. it was

a ridiculous amount of effort to ensure that students didn't have safe places to meet it was about killing the movement. the university space as a space of intellectual robust intellectual encouragement of open democratic discussion debate need to be protected. protests must be seen as part of in my view the learning exercise must be seen as part of what students in cage with because there was no occupation we didn't have the time to i know out a lot of issues and really deal with the heart of what we are fighting for. and the ended up fighting a lot in meetings and obviously the loud in prominent voices would be the ones that i heard when we spoke as women you could tell by the our body language it's like they get bored up until one person stands up and say you know what we will not be

led by women. and we will not be gay people because this thing of gay ness it was gutted by the tricks when they were at boat. so photos april happened after the is this history. december as a way number line of of of existing and resulting but then it was also a way of saying that we are tired of being those wonderful fragile people we won't stand up for ourselves and we won't find. it. but. the make up of the movement is as important as the outcomes of the movement because who makes up the movement translates into like the movement become. the. other.

some of the complications is when you try to hold the b.c. agenda consciousness agenda with it's kind of history of masculinity and the sergeant it's very difficult to hold that with intersectionality or the idea that patriarchy must fall to we've had many conversations with with our comrades where are they saying but really how can you think patriarchy away from our system for one thing we have and now you coming to say we must change ourselves what do you mean we still do. this even when. women. it was nothing to the mills so that is that it. no one from known to no name that we can't leave. a clear people cannot be here.

there's no membership to the struggle even as i want to feel ages. cation i carry a lot already and i cannot say ok let us focus and see education now and will focus on me being a woman later for for living is about all forms or symbols of pride of oppression you know all of them must fall in london to live. was a crime was outside of. the drug price students at that university get it at the admin buildings to hear minister of higher education platonism ideas deliver his cabinet's decision on student fees was one of the challenges that turned from all sides. and have concluded that the best approach would be to allow universities individually to

devon level of increase the institutions required to ensure that they continue to operate effectively the fear just men should not go above eight percent. of people who are going to be education. wow. so you want to make me. wish you could go. on. several university campuses have been shut down a following the announcement by higher education minister blade nzimande. i think you should just have the privilege on the radio you yes i do question if you think you. know. this you sometimes academics are standing up and saying

we must protect you question how you question and basic education as a public good students made their way up to senate house they were blocked from entering by private security. how did they do you. how do we attain fiji cation having a conversation about what our priorities are as a society is it increased to monetize it which is the thing ability for us to exist as equals participate in the shaping of society has equals being able to have as members of a south african population the ability to realize our dreams. i

must know of. no no no. god give up it's enough what do you want didn't on that pick up. enough to know to follow. the law if you're no good. because i know what i. think the. situation that you can hate is a bunch of confrontation you need to use complete the nature of the engagement between protesters and police in the context. we know that in south africa yes we

have a legitimate government but we do know more people have died in police custody in the post ninety four peter than during apartment. had cited that a very significant move forward would be to get the university to publicly say that they support for education and they're willing to do what it takes with students to hold the state accountable they beat the students they meet us to meet the students develop a pledge we would support the goal of free education. then we asked what would you

bachus go to the senate and council can i say would you want march senate and council agree to sit in council it agrees to the goal of flea education sciri of a general assembly he agreed to that. the university was demanding that if they were to come to the university assembly and commit to this that we would end the shutdown both the university and students knew very well that immediately when we opened our gates when classes started properly we would lose all bargaining power with the state. it is a deep blue gets the real moans the principal mint of the general assembly that was to be held today. for the protesting students effectively one to the general assembly and the one to the much to the constitutional court to continue but they

refused to commit to that the academic program will commence on monday it was previously we had discussed he. did you think it was going to be tough yes and what would you have out on the mat need to lose the academic year so that's the question that i was confronted. obduracy twice with only two cloaked in june you know police in other ways one could say that to the university was basically outsourcing its response. was.

the. last word judge jury. was. after running battles with authorities on of its campus the students and then with pushed off onto the streets fronting. world war.

the rage shooting and shooting to liberty into the church grounds we not extraordinary need. to move things. like that from the right and my friend. thanks for bearing with both. hands. there is absolutely no reason for the kinds of scenes that we would see that took place like for you to do this different from us gothic that i was there for what to do and looking at that there were more storms and so on that's a vine that is and it's something that should have no place in a democratic south africa no matter what the issues are there's and jacob zuma has set up a ministerial taz team to normalize the situation entire education institutions.

because. this is an authentic a.n.c. government that just. by elements not be able to weed power through the ballot box and they went to discredit. them and try to fold ultra left elements. with never really had put it to felt how in south africa. is must follow. my. i. i shouldn't be surprised the political parties have an interest of course they do that this was one of the most important protests in the post ninety four people but within. these student protests have been orchestrated and controlled by an

outside force that see the deliberately mischievous or betraying profound lack of understanding of the student politics. so they wanted to into the protest couldn't allies us but only after that will they do anything with us it will be justifiable because what could in those by the. student leader meanies stripy a huge problem magistrates court this morning in what police say was part of an investigation into the intimidation and violence that we feen meeting has been denied bail by the johannesburg magistrates court let me is facing charges of malicious damage to property theft assaults and position of dangerous weapons.

political arrests are now being used to kill the movement. then it was a situation. security that it no trained contacts should you know at four o'clock in the morning would have you know people coming to see you know the minister was to meet with. us and it is then that we realised that actually what we're dealing with is bigger than you know which initially. didn't know we knew that it wouldn't really touch with the news and the only way we could defend ourselves was to stay in the public eye. ah become part of what you know i come to your own proper protocol so i can order it up must come for. the safety in numbers as long as we in public in ri numbers are safe but this is

definitely a targeted attempt to intimate me that we're sitting in prison my colleagues are sitting in hospital we are now has to go into some form of id. we are on the list there's no doubt about that. but i always say that i can't hide like or after we have to come out and do what we have to do obesity to not be alone with with with students that's a safe space but also you know if they're going to come for you they're going to come from. we were walking to an open area of grass and along that will quickly that particular group of police had just kind of popped out of nowhere. i tried to speak to the police officer and you know me trying to have an

interaction with him as i walked forward they formed and to line and already i was scared but i had to try and be very you know brave for that for the students who were in front of us was the. ok ok ok. the information that that a student leadership collar was a job shot ten times is still receiving treatment and there i do have movements are being traced to at this stage i have to run a center here on the university's campus. i tried to speak to the police officer tried to i tried to speak to him i tried to . explain to him that reason wanted in trouble and that if they wanted us to disperse we dispersed peacefully but we didn't even get to that point because if it

didn't seem that they were there to make a decision it's in that all the decisions had already be made. at the end of it seem to have been that it was thirteen rubber bullets it just felt like a spray of. things hitting my back and i couldn't sit or lie on my back for about a month. all of that is insignificant to the kind of discussed in this appointment you have with a government to treat its own children. from a short maybe it would have made sense because i perform a question in almost all the time but you know this war is continuing you know prison and all is asking that we approach it differently asking that we do different things different when they did that to show you that we knew that this is

. actually akin to pre-crisis as a general thing our academic program was completed and that was our responsibility it was my responsibility in every academic's responsibility to ensure the twenty six thousand academic year was not. spirit of his must fall just found in our bodies and he used us and would prefer to find other bodies. we love fees ms for i will continue fighting for free education until we did it but not the same way the same strategies that we are using they're not sustainable anymore so we will do what we did in the beginning will surprise people in the same. way i can

stand and talk about the future of the movement but it would be disingenuous given that this movement doesn't belong to me i don't decide it is a collective process that we hold in very sacred to god and students will ultimately take this weight needs to be and i have faith that we will achieve. our demand for free deacon ised education but not without a fight. the .

world. however got some also right in pushing into southeastern parts of australia already saying some rather lively shells longest. right swirling for the by easing further resorts kangaroo island sixty one millimeters of rain here in twenty four hours and that wetter weather will continue to drive its way further a switch the good parts of victoria will face in parts victoria pushing up into central areas of new south wales see some pretty useful right heavy rainfall as we

go through thursday further west well sixteen celsius in adelaide still a few showers coming through here we need the right has been particularly dry say father's year dry and settle there for perth nineteen celsius on thursday getting up to twenty five as you go on through friday them a northerly wind coming through so some pleasant or some sunshine coming through at this stage but said feeling a little more autumnal down towards the southeast fifteen celsius in adelaide eighteen degrees there in melbourne still raining useful rainfall pushing across a good part of new south wales said possibly a little bit of localized flooding which as many rain much as any flooding certainly into new zealand over the next couple of days it's going to be five had dry some lovely sunshine coming through says seventeen celsius that across church eighteen degrees on thursday therefore all cleaned them a keep that five and set of weather as you break out way to the weekend.

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supporters clash with troops in eastern caracas. a may day protests turned violent in france where thousands rallied against president in one year thus i decided to simply state what the bottom line conclusions were the u.s. attorney general defends his handling of the report after complaints he misled the public to protect president trump. and south african runner caster semenya loses an appeal against rules forcing her to lower her testosterone levels but vows it won't hold her back. and nine people stare at him with all your sports swore to see give barcelona the upper hand in their champions league semifinal with liverpool. protesters in venezuela have clashed with security forces after opposition leader

who called for the largest march in the country's history police fired tear gas and water cannon at several hundred demonstrators who tried to block a highway near where tempted to start a military uprising on tuesday elsewhere in the capital protests remained peaceful thousands gathered to support why do so again urge the army to help him oust president nicolas maduro. has already been defeated we want our liberty and our electricity and water supplies i want to say that we are on the right path we are being listened to they want to join the country together made it forward the regime cannot move forward imagine someone saying he's the president even though he hasn't this regime hasn't got control of the country anymore they'll try to stop me and persecute me and not think that they'll stop us but we know who the winner is. pro-government demonstrations have also been rallying in the capital thousands

gathered outside the presidential palace in caracas in support of nicolas maduro on tuesday in madrid claim to have defeated a coup attempt by the opposition who warned those actions will not go unpunished promising to launch a criminal investigation the supremes court which is loyal to moderate is understood to be currently meeting in caracas latin america editor lucien human joins us live on the line from caracas alysia do we have any information coming out of that supreme court. i don't arn i've just seen a letter from one of the members of the courtroom was actually supports the opposition criticizing the meeting we also aren't heard from just babble cabaye who's the vice president of the ruling socialist party he had said earlier and i'm quoting him that the that the courts and the prosecutors are examining the video of yesterday's attempt to provoke a military uprising you said and he seems to be anticipating from what i can gather another legal move against while and the opposition in fact we're hearing that this

meeting is still taking place at this hour and it's a very unusual move especially from a day large it seems to be intended to disprove the white house claims that the supreme court president michael moore they don't have actually turned on president nicolas another little lauren and what about up to this with the uprising or the attempts from my daughter to kind of create momentum on yesterday when it was not going now do you think. he had been calling appealing i would tell most begging on venezuelans to keep up that momentum to keep up the pressure and i think that the turnout that we have seen on may first has been rather disappointing for the opposition leader he you know he had asked for peace for this to be the largest demonstration in the whole history of venezuela there were a lot of people out on the streets but it certainly wasn't the largest by a long shot and in part i would say maybe because of fear there were more than a hundred people injured in tuesday's clashes and today we've seen the heavily

armed riot police out in force dispersing crowds as they were gathering in several of the meeting point here and get out that say even in the ugly the plaza which is an opposition stronghold just a short while ago there when there was that with tear gas dispelling dispersing rather supporters of oil what do you make about the the role of external powers in all this. that is that pressure is is key and one of the things that we've seen here is the bride all moving around and taking various dream security measures alerting followers that he's going to speak into one place and not showing up and going to another all of this because there are serious concerns that he could be arrested or attacked and if he hasn't been according to many people this is because the u.s. government is directing severe retaliation against the mughal government of any harm should come to my little while rather but just how much the increased economic sanctions is going to really work is is another matter altogether and some people

argue that if it didn't work right at the beginning it's not going to work in the long run especially if they point to the fact that in iran the sanctions lasted ten years and that did not dislodge the government or porthos to try to negotiate its nuclear programs until much further onward. just briefly with the promotion of moving around but that is due to the heat quite a lot of. what looks like a sort of clashes going on in caracas what's the scale of the kind of pictures that we're seeing in the moment because those flashes. they've been it's been a cat and mouse game over the last couple of hours and we're and i'm beginning to see a little bit of a repetition of what we found two thousand and seventeen and by that i was first to worry way throwing rocks and actually confronting members of the national guard they actually brought down a fence surrounding the lock unlock the army base airport place which was the one

who went wide on had attempted to to urge for a military uprising on chill day this has been going on back and forth all day long but they are not huge amounts of people but there have been we understand at least a dozen people injured at least including a journalist who is very badly injured you see in human for the time being thank you very much indeed for joining us there from caracas thank you. your state says the united states is prepared to take military action if in venezuela if needed might compare has also spoken to his russian counterpart sergey lavrov urging moscow to stop supporting president nicolas maduro the meeting was held earlier at the white house to discuss venezuela let's get more from rosen and jordan what's come out of that white house meeting if and in so far as. well or no one has actually come out to us speak to reporters but the national security adviser john bolton did reiterate the trump white house is support for one

glider and the political opposition in venezuela indicating that they should continue their efforts to push nicolas maduro out of power and that the u.s. stands with them in this effort earlier on wednesday we heard this from john bolton who was suggested that even though the hope is that the political transition would happen quickly that this is a situation where frankly nicolas maduro will have to leave whether or not he likes it this is john bolton the u.s. national security adviser. the fact is he figures like the defense minister the chief judge of the supreme court the head of the presidential guard have been at it as people dealing with the opposition and some day the documents that they were prepared to sign with the opposition will become public so if you're nicolas maduro can you look at your defense minister any more and trust him i don't think so i

think the door is now surrounded by scorpions in a bottle and it's only a matter of time. meantime patrick shanahan who is the acting defense secretary testified before a congressional panel on wednesday to want to say that while certainly there was there is no reason to think that the u.s. would be prepared to use military action in order to help support. and his his supporters he did say that to the preference of the u.s. government is that this be a peaceful transition that this involves diplomacy and economic pressure on the government not the use of the military and in that vein the secretary of state might pompei o who has been criticized for suggesting that a military option in fact was on the table instead spoke with the russian foreign minister sergey lavrov and indicated to him that things could go much more smoothly

if the russians would back away from supporting nicolas maduro so some mixed messages there lauren on what the u.s. is or isn't doing in this political crisis in venezuela or jordan thank you very much indeed on what asco is a historian of modern latin america new york invest in author of a book called audio rising on the making of modern but his way and he joins us via skype from new york thanks for being with us so just to go back to the events that are now in in venezuela the supreme court what would you expect then move to be. it's a little bit unclear but. history or cost or experience. two to model what we might expect is for the issuing open arrest warrant on the way though of course there's already significant patients are on why those have it because of having left the country illegally and then having to reenter also they go way back after

the failed bid to bring humanitarian aid from going to be. of course one thing is trying to bring humanitarian aid another is to call for an armed insurrection and so it's quite clear that needs to act and in the past it's been the court that has been his his hammer and so how do you expect things to go i mean this causes me going on for a long time now i'm interested in power in spite of the kind of length and breadth of this economic and political crisis why is he still there what's keeping him in power. well many factors there but i think the main one is that those forces that continue to hold the balance really among us whether primarily serve in the military still seeing no major uncertainty or two weapon against mark. certainly there's been calls by the opposition to grant some sort of amnesty aid to officers who would who would detract but those amnesty calls have been critiqued even by international human rights agencies as being too broad and too lenient and so there's really no sense that they would have any kind of future in

a transition even if that's what it's been promised now and there's also significant sectors of other sectors of the government that much more at stake certainly economically in keeping my leader in power and they would not be able to seek shelter as an amnesty so those forces are primarily were to be in power and what about quite those movement i mean does it is it your impression that the momentum has stalled a bit off to what he did on on tuesday or do you think that he's still got the backing but that people are frankly frightened about history. but i think today to some extent it was even more consequential than yesterday to some extent yesterday was a day that caught a lot of people off guard certainly myself and people on contact where you know government as well. and to the extent that the people that he was calling to rise up in the military did not do so that was a significant blow to his credibility so he really needed today to show that he could continue to muster support in the streets he did that to some extent but certainly.