for the other and if he does not provide this committee with the information it demands the respect it deserves is to bars a moment of accountability soon enough i think what we're seeing from chairman adler is that he's incapable of holding power if he and his committee are capable of actually asking the attorney general questions themselves and need to staff that out it seems like a pretty pathetic moment for the chairman of that committee and look we lost confidence in jerry nadler a long time ago but it's surprising that to find out that he's actually lost confidence in himself and his capability to do his job he can't and he's not capable of asking the attorney general questions maybe he should step down or resign and allow somebody else and. this is high stakes for william barr because members of congress are already saying that he lied to congress lying to congress is a crime and it could get you sent to prison what they're arguing here is that when muller gave bar his summary bar then then just a couple days later put out

a four page summary of what he thinks the report said he was asked about this in congressional testimony before the senate under oath and they said what are all these reports that muller was upset and are said i have no idea what you're talking about well it turns out that robert mueller the special counsel had sent a letter before that to bar saying exactly that he was upset with the way bar was handling the special counsel's probe was that a lie to congress well house speaker nancy pelosi has come out and said that he lied to congress and it's a crime but you want to see how the committees decide to proceed next up though the big testimony we're waiting to see is if the democrats can get robert muller this former special counsel before them they say they want to hear directly from the man who invested that gated the president as to whether the president of the united states committed crimes well still ahead here because there are countries who still bahrain or who will no longer be exempt when the u.s. sanctions waiver in the coming hours. clamping down on hate speech facebook but on several far. to vigils and organizations stay with us here on al-jazeera.

al you'd expect big range at the moment in china but as a couple of days almost rain free the brightest seen from space of these the showers are in the south china sea and touching taiwan and there in the fall cross for friday now the breeze would suggest we're talking more secure into vietnam and turkey back up into china so there's going to be an increase in showers in vietnam western china which will probably then march some still east as was hong kong but not until after the weekend there are quite a few showers around the philippines a developing delhi there more south of the north and even more so than to was so the ways in west papua scattering to the west of that if you're in singapore kuala

lumpur you could get a shower each day but we also are more parts of malaysia into the dry rather than wet on daily basis dangerous weather now in the bay of bengal the first and very active tropical site of the season a severe tropical soccer description of its effects on land devastating it's like to make landfall on the addition coast this is jury friday and from that point it will run up the coast towards buying the desh for such a day despite evacuations the potential for flooding for storm damage from winds and for waves is great. whether sponsored by cattle or. free education for all was the promise the reality provoked a generation. to drugs in their blood he wasn't on that thank god how a protest over education feeds. more international revolves.

around here he's done. everything must for. a witness documentary on al-jazeera. bookmark you're watching al-jazeera a reminder of our top stories venezuela's top causes ordered the arrest of one of the country's main opposition leaders the court accuse the polder lopez of violating the terms of his house arrest no person to stanley and now in the spanish ambassador's residence in caracas. senior white house adviser says the u.s. will discuss the possibility of israel and the occupied west bank settlements with

the country's incoming government. the u.s. congressional hearing has been forced to speak to an empty chair after the attorney general william barr refused to face it house speaker nancy pelosi earlier accused of committing a crime by misleading congress special counsel robert miller's report on alleged russian interference in the twenty sixteen presidential election. the u.s. senate has failed to overturn president trump's veto of a law that would have ended washington support for the saudi led war in yemen the bipartisan measure was passed in both houses of congress early this year but president trump used only the second veto of his. it's safe to block it. the war in yemen is no into its fifth year the u.s. backed sodhi led coalition is up against the rainy unsupported who the fighters who seize control of the government and the largest city so now the u.s. has been providing intelligence and logistical support to a force which also includes the united arab emirates and egypt but the fighting has

killed or injured more than fifteen thousand eight million yemenis are at risk of famine and the color obrecht has hit more than one million people u.s. politicians argued only congress could declare war and so the president has no right to continue american involvement the idea one support from republicans and democrats in both houses of congress but the president vetoed same because there was no u.s. military directly involved in the fighting it wasn't needed the senate can overturn a veto if it gets enough votes a two thirds majority plus one one of the moves sponsors said u.s. involvement was not making the idiocy for there is evidence that our involvement in yemen. might well have in fact probably has further destabilize the region has actually helped al qaeda in the arabian peninsula well senator bernie sanders said the u.s. should not be fighting two wars with saudi arabia we will not continue to fall out of follow their lead into disastrous military interventions

like but supporters of the presidential veto insisted donald trump didn't need congressional approval for what we are doing however is providing limited non-combat support in the end the senate failed to overturn the presidential veto fully short by fourteen votes one former u.s. ambassador to yemen says the vote lays down a marker for the white house about future involvement demonstrates the rising level of frustration in the congress which is bipartisan as both democrats and republicans who are frustrated with the administration's position on the conflict and frustrated with the support that the administration has for saudi arabia while the white house is skilled bike u.s. involvement under congressional pressure it's still facing questions about how far it's really cool to back the saudi led coalition alan fischer al-jazeera washington

. the sixth of exemption from u.s. sanctions for countries that still bahrain oil well and in a few hours' time the new restrictions will affect countries like china and washington's allies india and south korea amongst others michaela has the story from washington d.c. . it was a surprise to many when president trump chose riyadh to sit destination of his first international trip in office but two years on it's clear this was more of a signal as to the central role saudi arabia would play in his administration's decision making. driven home when it was made clear the imposition of oil sanctions against iran was done in coordinate. with a leave others stuck about the details of what the site is in the immoralities have agreed to but i've had conversations the president conversations with these countries and there they have committed to making sure that there is a sufficient supply in the markets. confirmation of saudi coordination came just

days after president trump signaled a major policy reversal in libya in an obvious not to riyadh expressing u.s. support for the saudi backed warlord fighting the internationally recognized government in tripoli the announcement makes clear that saudi arabia is now a full crim of the united states foreign policy this despite the fact that congress has held saudi arabia responsible for the murder of the journalist jamal khashoggi as well as for the deaths in the ongoing war in yemen even senior republican leaders have said until these situations are resolved responsibility for the murder of khashoggi is assigned it simply cannot be business as usual the white house simply ignores this position a congressional resolution condemning saudi arabia's actions in yemen the subject of presidential veto. in president trump size it seems the relationship with riyadh

more important than that with congress mike hanna al-jazeera washington. opec secretary general mohamed bucket indo was in tire on thursday to attend an oil and gas conference. taining stability in the global oil market was better for everyone even the united states. as iran comes under more pressure from us sanctions the secretary general of opec the organization of petroleum exporting countries mahomet's a new super kindo came to ron to attend an annual oil and gas crisis his presence alone a strong signal that iran remains an important oil producing member of the opec cartel and despite reports that countries like the united arab emirates and saudi arabia might increase production to make up for sanctioned iranian oil not making it to the markets barkin though said when it comes to keeping the oil industry stable opec members speak with one voice as they all remain focused on. their obligations under the declaration of cooperation. it is

a work in progress. the is going to be the more you need. decisions within opec ok it will continue to look like i said we don't want to be so different we'll take a look at your decisions and the implementing collectively i mean through this year i was going to take that during a panel discussion attended by secretary-general barr kindo an iranian member of his team said as far as practical steps opec might be able to take to protect iranian oil sales from ongoing u.s. sanctions he said that there was nothing that opec could do that is not opec's mandate but he did say that decisions on output would be made together as a bloc and that the organization would make those decisions at the regular meetings but by his presence and in his own words part indo made it clear that maintaining the stability of the global oil industry is vital and more important than unilateral u.s. sanctions more than

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the region in just six weeks and has already killed more than forty people. a vietnamese woman accused of killing the half brother of north korean leader kim jong un has been released from prison though auntie hong a was the final suspect in the murder. she spent two years in jail after being accused of poisoning him in twenty seven. britain's opposition labor party is calling for police investigation into allegations that a minister leaked information from the national security council meeting. you or any of your issues behind the walkway. absolutely not. former defense secretary governor williamson denies the your decision to give chinese telecom giant holloway a role in building the u.k.'s five g. network on wednesday he was sacked from the government over the leak prime minister treason may has refused to be drawn on whether he violated the official secrets act . whatever the family's been told then i think the prime minister. is mr

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fifty kilometers an hour almost equivalent of a category five hurricane those are the headlines here on al-jazeera but with more news in half an hour to stay with us. not so fast champion runner caster semenya is ordered to take drugs to lower her testosterone if she wants to keep competing is that decision fair or is it needed to ensure a level playing field in the sport this isn't a story. hello

welcome to the program i'm wrong on this ammonia is an inspiration to many women around the world but the south african olympic and world champion athlete is accused of having an unfair advantage because her body produces more male sex hormones than most females. to stay in the race she's going to have to change your life she's lost a legal challenge against the governing body of world athletics which issued a new rule forcing her to take drugs to lower testosterone levels supporters say that ensures fair competition critics argue that semenya is unfairly targeted because the rule only applies to middle distance athletes like her the court of arbitration for sport admits the regulation is discriminatory but say it's necessary the president of the international association of athletics federations praised the decision sebastian coe is here in doha for friday's diamond league event where so many are is due to compete i think this is pretty straightforward

and it's very straightforward for any international federation in sport athletics has to classifications it has age it has gender we are fiercely protective about both and i'm really grateful the court of arbitration has not held that principle so many as lawyers in the south african of let its governing body are considering an appeal. so it was extremely disappointed in the outcome because it's not correct to have a law which close out in a way that nobody knows yet until it does play out and you can't have the person who makes a law also be the person implementing the law and deciding how it blows out that is not the way we see fairness so what exactly is her condition it's called a hyper androgen ism which causes her body to produce more of the male sex hormone testosterone the most women between five and ten percent of females are thought to

be affected the un says that up to one point seven percent of babies worldwide are into sex meaning they don't fit typical definitions of male and female testosterone boosts the amount of red blood cells increases muscle mass and strength doctors are divided on how much it improves an athlete's performance. i. let's bring in our panel joining us from london is sylvia account but se senior lecturer in bioethics and society at king's college london from high wycombe on skype john breaux a professor of applied sports science at buckinghamshire new university and also on skype from oxford students have a lesson director of the oxford euro center for practical ethics at the university of oxford welcome all to the program i would like to start with you dr sylvia so many was born a woman it's not her fault that she has this imbalance of testosterone surely

should she should be allowed to compete it's not an unfair advantage is it. hugh really touched an important point because a discussion that hinges on whether an advantage is unfair or not and we just heard the boss down because the case is straightforward pretty straightforward and actually is anything by straightforward because it's quite complex we need to all distinguish whether they are bonded derived from that is unfair or not and this is not what the court for arbitration for sport as done the courts for arbitration for sport as requested that either have to investigate to do it is search on levels of testosterone and performance advantage and they come up with some results which by the way i've been demonstrated by several team include in my team to not be replicable and this is been highlighted in the verdict of the courts that i've

titian for sport where they know it of the difficulty are reliant on a concrete advantage by they do rely on necessary ethical advantage between that a soft test us around and performance how have the pint i've been making as a scholar working in attics and sport and as a former middle distance as a not a professional one is that these advantages not unfair let me bring in. just right now from high wycombe it's not unfair says dr sylvia kemper also she should be allowed to compete in so he's always out of the whole problem with this case and there's never been lucky with some of the common children. it was clear out of the. situation. they were. serious maybe it was shortly was he you know it was well into he was so you.

need to be able to say that let's remind ourselves it's just leaving us to see. many and soon within all of these will fema who recommended recognition i have to live is that then to sponsor who choose to not just picking on one individual i can see why innocence seems that way it is still a very grey areas the extent to which the levels of testosterone who performs i think we have to bear in mind that you said testosterone was a growth hormone causes as you said of the outset. forwards and so as we cruise muscles muscles and muscle evokes to strengthen our will we don't lose because it is quite arbitrary is the exact cut off point where a performance starts and where it stops nothing particularly we've been where we know there are variations in homeowner or who's on a monthly basis you need where he was a problem for example it is something that again is the cuatro she said it's going

to be very very difficult so more incidents of police and which is because i want point that you made about that so many not being allowed to compete because she will be allowed to compete but only she and other outlets would sue conditions can demonstrate that her stance to rooms are sort of the who's lower on the speaking and so her concede the last night as i was asked the next step for her should be i genuinely think that she now is such a great athlete that she has the ability and hopefully will desire to carry on with her training carry on doing what she has done so well for so many years and that in some way to prove the doubters won by showing that she can still win or who so we go locals and break world records even with. a saucer because she may also decide on our own. people but i believe she's a great brother a great athlete and we're in a sense people now even with a slightly lower testosterone but what we're asking her to do and other athletes in

her position to do. is to take performance reducing drugs not performance and hans and drugs abound from the sport completely so this seems to be an ethical question let's bring in julian savulescu in oxford one of the what's the morality of all of this we're actually in effect somebody at the top of the game to not be at the top of that is that what we're doing well as we exactly what sylvia correctly pointed out is whether this level of testosterone represents an unfair advantage and if it does what you should do about it. so in the first question i completely agree with that the science hasn't established the degree to which are elevated testosterone level provides that with an unfair advantage you've got to remember that that she probably has a condition which means the receptive protest auster are don't work properly we

don't know what a normal level of testosterone would be for her we don't know how her body functions or indeed her bright functions this level of testosterone so even if you reduce the performance by reducing in testosterone it could be two to effects on her brine it could be due to the side effects of the drug it could be due to a whole bunch of different factors in unless you can give a really accurate story about what what part of logic cool features were in taught him to do and what we're not and how testosterone works in a complex situation like these you shouldn't be ruining somebodies career a lot which brings me to the second point that even if you thought there might be some significant advantage. this woman has been brought up under a parent's set of rules she's trying to use being treated as a woman she's been allowed to compete and it shines those rules midway through her career denies her the right to work and the right to leave fictive only

a much better solution would have been to introduce row. that affected athletes in the future are for example when they're about to start their career not midway through their career i sort of foreground renmark course but the problem all together is this sort of cool little hormonal playing field which. has in the i double i want to establish isn't really a level playing field because you don't know the response of the receptors to testosterone you don't know the complex biology of the individual athletes national or simply hasn't been worked out so i think it's very severe let me bring you let me bring you in here doctor so here the science seems to be problematic so why not julian savulescu said allow her to compete whilst you figure out the science yes definitely that could have been an option indeed i mean i must say when i saw was this packed in a live calm everybody else out there very did yesterday and i was disappointed but

not surprised and i think it's important to say this is such a complex and not straightforward issue is that to understand yes it is very good one is to go back a few years and i understand due to the case i did it on was that indian sprinter also targeted by the farm but on drugs an ism regulation which were put in place in two thousand and eleven in response to caster semenya skase so you have a case that goes back ten years so you had caster semenya at the billion were temperature two thousand and nine but she was not able to appeal to say i've had hundreds of his own regulations that required her to lower the tests around other that science to due to time that were appealed to the court for arbitration or sports at a collection where suspended in time to fifteen on grounds that there was not enough evidence about the correlation how have as i had knotted in the twenty

fifteen the grounds on with segregation where suspend it was a wrong. let me splaying why cofer a petition for support in twenty fifteen wrote very clearly that they believe they either have add reasons to have these regulations that this is a glacial were necessary this is a cause yes and this is language about necessary discrimination but in twenty fifteen cassel ruled that there was not enough evidence about a proportionality also regulation now is that i that the laugh was given two years to do this additional research which as i've submitted it was most is a new regulation which targeted district a set of events from the four hundred meter to the model are based on is a study published in the british journal sports medicine in twenty seventeen weeks but then defied the middle of this event as events in which women with a high level of testosterone had higher performance of bond had to how have both

decided at not results had not been replicated and actually as i said with some more frankly not that on the scale of economic and are not on spin now but on court and invest of brighton and spain burgas university we've been able to show that there is also cannot directly cater so why these five events i think it's fair to say the caste system as been targeted now i would be curious to see if gustus so many competing in a different event will say i that bit after regulation change sadly laugh as cause it aggression and live in document cast yesterday is a very good advice to defer as application i was at it relation on grounds that is of the difficulty i rely on concrete evidence of it not of i have or i'd have cried to ronnie but sad that merited taken i was advised to defer his application as a regulation they've given absolutes one week one week to lower their test as i don't have it in order to complete i'm eight so you're saying it's very unfair that you bring in john breaux ahead this is sport sport is supposed to be fair the.

regulations these rulings are designed for a level playing field and it's designed on age and on sex. is it time to take a real hard look at that and to try and come up with a different definition or is it simply we've got to draw the line in the sand somewhere. and think we have to must think will really not look at the whole integrity of all the water people will all be watching the was all many millions of pounds is invested into casting rights through sponsorship deals and so on and i think i am bitterly silent and sorry for athletes such as custer so many who are located in the grease on one with a vehicle carry on competing at the same time alone the things i don't agree with we cover all of this occasional consumer or service coming from in the sense we do have to create an environment within

a bill maher who don't are we high levels of testosterone to feel they can excel competes in the sunni were in favor of sport we have the last twenty or thirty years of the way in which very rightly the last four has grown and developed a much greater levels of aspiration much greater levels of the ship play a levels of coverage and that is absolutely to be welcomed i think we also need to bear in mind that we should be custer solenn you're going to come out of this inevitably it seems as if it's so that is targeting her as an individual it is as a sort of release of the all athletes one hundred isn't it is also to some extent been clouded with another very good issue that is the one transgender athletes going to kill males go through sexually or in stations such transitions become females and computers females are part of the reason why the article from other people looking at testosterone levels is a way to again level the own groups ensure that when an athlete does go through

sexual reallocations transition they have a testosterone level the least puts them in a castle or a level where we can compete own style it's. extremely difficult area and a surly one who we know. but i do believe we have to protect the children to school the same time so here's what he said to the last group needs to do some work of exactly what caused all of this very minute that star struck in a different way when it's measured is banned by the world anti-doping agency because of its forms in handsome effects and that we know that forms of variants of testosterone itself will inhospitable that's what we're not quite clear on is exactly what those levels are so this is in a sense of couture it certainly would be nice to work research done since it really get just right and you never see his situation it's not going to be we are going to

be some windows and some lose nothing what we have to do is have the sorts of discussions and in a very level headed pragmatic way to come up with the best solution for both individuals and supporters already for society as well julian savulescu john breaux brings up a very interesting point there i just want to ask you a very direct question only now in a position where we're trying to. regulate the human body where we're trying to legislate the human body and what it's capable of doing and surely that's bad for the sport this is naturally occurring and caster so many or perhaps that's recurring of people it just means that they can compete at that level. you know i think that's exactly the point the it's inconsistent with the logic of sport as it currently stands that your main to be tasting an individual's natural potential but you're trying to reduce their natural potential with testosterone not lowering drugs you have to remember that the definition of a woman used to be until the ninety's having to excrete his arms if that had

continued to be the definition he has to say maybe it wouldn't have been allowed to compete because she probably has a condition where she has a y. chromosome an edge an insensitivity now she didn't make the decision to change that definition it was my by the sporting with our toes and sorrow i move to an anatomical definition of what it is to be a woman when she conforms to anatomically she's a woman she has a female appearance even though she my having to also hastie's and does a producing testosterone so they chose to move to a different definition of woman and within that definition she's completely natural that's not her decision she's conforming to the rules i completely agree we have to have a set of rules but they'll always be great cases and you shouldn't be disadvantaging people who have conformed to the rules and you decide to chimes the midwife through

it's to point to recognise that this decision doesn't apply to all into sex conditions it applies to only those people with a white chromosomes who also have high levels of testosterone but there are other women and other conditions you need to six that produce high levels of testosterone that are not covered by this judgement so she is being discriminated against very clearly even amounts into sex athletes i was reading a very interesting article so if you want to bring you in his very interesting article that suggested that the people running sport overwhelmingly male overwhelmingly white and overwhelmingly over the age of sixty so that definition of what is a man what is a woman is very set in stone a pap's a little old fashioned do you think that has anything to do that. that this has definitely something to do is it and fat already in twenty two hours with my car

stanford university wrote an article for his american journal of bioethics where we were targeting the hyper androgynous regulation and we pointed out i was there were different levels of unfairness is a regulation including the way they were being drafted and implemented and looking at the kind of people that were making this decision i think it's really important to distinguish the pint of whether is this our banter is unfair or not back to twenty fifteen in order to understand today's case could have ruled in a different way indeed i'm really curious to read one hundred sixty pages of the entire very good when they are published because it says that it was dropped by majority so i understand this as there was a minority as i didn't agree with their oil it was a rule in what this means is that cost did not engage with the question is an

advantage given by tacitus or unfair now let me give you an example about other natural advantages there are natural conditions. and mother being receptor gene if you have one of these mutation produce a higher level of blood cells the red blood cell carry oxygen in our body if you have about fifty percent more red blood cells in your bodies and other athletes is like being naturally dr doctor you have natural dopping and we have cases of athletes who had this mutation and had an advantage in competition they finished here. is a famous example is a sixty one gone mad ulcer and he spoke winter olympics with an advantage of forty or forty five seconds. silverman dallas which is a huge as. but that was not percy their our fair it was clear in the bank and as it

may be the case that that's a syrian is an advantage i have i think the science that underline that mantle to confer by past us there is a last robust let my brethren know we're going to john breaux ahead. the same question the silvia is ports management sports ruling elite overwhelmingly old overwhelmingly old fashioned and simply out of touch with everything that's going on in the modern world it's a good question i can see why you might go because if you look at the composition of many national federations national governing spall then suddenly of the very right. of of males middle aged males people ourselves say with an architectural or oh a suit so i'm getting something whether we you know where the potential implications or israel is that we will see those and other issues start to look at what's happened without that six of when we were the same ruling would be applied

to that seems to have been purged as something of an arm may actually see the stars themselves and there will be those principally in team sports where you have twelve fifteen individuals all competing in the same units of the same there is more likelihood that we will see those and races decide on who they were trying to pass in the regulations so that means they're out of touch or not i don't know i can't really be absolutely certain on that but at the same time a good way in which sport hasn't all the years when you go to the games which is no . sports younger sports if you're lucky because of the winter olympics you need a parent it's what i think we are seeing globally is in a sense a revolution that in sports is seen not to be mainstream a long way but i do think we are getting much younger much with bible. i hope he grows awareness of what's happening in it who will so we are running out of

time and i would like to ask a final question to julian savulescu just very quickly this is same question of the sports governing bodies out of touch is the science developing forty quickly is this a problem. cast to so many it's simply that the world is changing and the sport's governing bodies aren't keeping up. and that's exactly right i think the side to see is rapidly emerging it's very complex it's probable eastgate and they're not aware of how to deal with the ethical issues and i don't have an ethical framework that's satisfactory for the complexity of the issues but i think there are two other issues here i think they're worried about opening the floodgates to transgender athletes i think that's exactly right and they're also worrying about encouraging doping using testosterone in normal laterally. this will be an encouragement to use diving in order to compete with me to say exactly

and by the guys are legitimate concerns but they separate issues and i don't think he got past this amazing. time thank you very much to all of my guests sylvia kemper s.c. john breaux and julian savulescu and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al-jazeera dot com and for further discussion go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story and you can also join the conversation on twitter handle is at a.j. inside story from am wrong and the whole team head by finance.

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madrid has refused to turn him in well earlier in the display of military support nicolas maduro addressed thousands of soldiers at a military base in caracas so honored by top generals in the armed forces to fight those he called traitors plotting against him. cooter on the venezuela columbia border. a major display of loyalty live on television. walk up on thursday to the image of president nicolas maduro surrounded by thousands of soldiers and key military figures it was a symbolic way to reject claims by the united states in the opposition that the armed forces were prepared to turn on him a little. soldiers of the motherland the time to fight has come the time has come to give an example to history in the world in venezuela the national armed forces of these of loyal united defeating attempted coup plotters who sell themselves for washington dollars. his defense minister who according to

u.s. officials was supposedly participating in talks to depose the president something he denies. makes me angry inside little brick or pretends to break the military honor which is the most sacred thing that a soldier of the armed forces has they have come to me with of this stupid ridiculous offer the parade followed two days of violent confrontations on the streets after the leader of the opposition one way door called on the military to turn on my door and for his supporters to mobilize several people died in the ensuing clashes hundreds were wounded in more than two hundred arrested among security correct as residents tried to resume their lives opposition supporters said uncertainty and. appointment are starting to creep in as they continue to grapple with rampant inflation in food and medicine shortages. i see a bad future here if we continue in the situation that we are living if things do

not change and i do not believe they will how are we going to live like this in this situation. from washington u.s. president donald trump personally called for a change in the country the brutal repression of the venezuelan people must stand that most people are starving they have no food they have no water and this was once one of the wealthiest countries in the world so we wish them well we'll be there to help and we are there to help my disposition might be a shake here now that some divisions are showing among the military and its intelligence service but it's clear what the opposition could do differently after their gamble for change has failed leaving both men and the country in a standoff with no immediate solution in sight alice some of them. from the venezuelan colombian border six with exemption from u.s. sanctions for countries that still buy iranian oil and. the new restrictions will

affect countries such as china and washington's allies india and south korea plus protests continue in sudan where demonstrators have saved a million strong march to press for a civilian administration protest leaders say the military isn't serious about handing over power. more than a million people have been evacuated from eastern passo in the year ahead of the arrival of. the storm is expected to cause significant destruction in and west bengal when it makes landfall in the coming hours with winds in excess of two hundred fifty kilometers now. at least four people including children have been killed by syrian government strikes on a rebel held area in northwestern it live province schools and residential neighborhoods in the town of kins farah were hit in what the u.n. describes as the worst barrel bombing campaign in eleven fifteen months he says russian and syrian forces intensified their restaurants and shelling overnight it

was supposed to be a safe saying those are the headlines about with more news in half an hour here on al-jazeera next it's witness. who is going to be about to be on the bridge there a good day when they're even. in first year there were fifty of us in our time and

sixteen years there were like twenty. we had to see people that we knew very close to be our friends not coming back to school. to. work. it was a very odd figure and a very high figure well we're going to accept the increase or we're going to fight and we were clear that we're going to fight. to space we don't have a language we don't think that the way the university structured feeble students. think that you know there's no way students can ever win anything. to fear message that we have for the diversity is that we can't continue like this. i'm just don't

know if there's no no no. i'm not good. enough what do you want didn't on that big i want. you know do no good. this is something to change but i don't look at the freedom charter and the police in my face but our fathers were modest see the grief that you see to see that you go on at this university just lying to me see what you've started started on yeah. because we have beaten as black people excused it from the education system for such a long time if we are interested about the sting called transformation then we have to ensure that this justice. this is like a food security project whatever food is pretty strong and goes to the field bank and gets given to the students that have been fisheries of the food bank program.

and the. many academics find themselves throughout the year being approached by students for money to buy food you have put the students who have to sit in the same class as students who when their first year when they pass matric the parents buy them a c. there's been so b.m.w. so they can drive to university the inequality is far more benefits at a place like but university and other form you know english speaking war you know the top white universities and these things contribute to the kind of consciousness and the politics that have evolved in the feast must for movement. you sit in these

institutions and you think you in cambridge there was purposeful these institutions were made primarily for white middle class men. these institutions were in fact a primary part of holding and developing a party south africa and colonial africa. was the the. the. not only a students oppressed by the violence of the system in that they financially excluded but so well costs right and to an even worse extent because workers have even less agency than students to write in some ways the university needs us to exist as opposed to workers who can be more easily replaced.

and not employed by overheads but knew where and contracted companies in two thousand and one when this outsourcing started the employers who were employed by vets they now became ex vets and and what they lost was up to half this the lebanese and the no longer had medicaid eight. was. on the man was. the ideal it's part of the same struggle you want a more just society you want to dignified society and you want to dig commodified university. where others are but i don't like to forget that in the life of

go back into our communities and to make sure that the uplifting and. briefly if you know that you have failed as a student. the. history is a nightmare from which we're still trying to wait. oh if you want people to have a shot it changing to so. we cannot make reality that they've inherited then you have to prioritize higher education. post nine hundred ninety four we get a message it cation which means that these universities get opened up to black people and to poor people and to woman in ways that was you started to not possible as you have this happening you have the state withdrawing subsidy. there was an argument made in the ninety's particularly by people in positions of power

at the time that we needed to think more critically about priorities and it was felt that higher education wasn't one of those priorities the whole idea of. the big universe the ones with. the ones with the elite used to go increase the fees by double digits the logical thing to do because as the subsidies gay you want to retain quality you. the poorer universities couldn't do it so they did increase fees but by the amount.