tv NEWSHOUR Al Jazeera May 5, 2019 1:00pm-2:01pm +03
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around other new vote at his home nearby the school is only under a foot or fifteen your assessment you don't wish or spun in the shoe is no on the other foot and now we are fighting against the racists how can we be racist when it is us who are being forced out of the country they sing against us kill the farmer so everything counts against the white race so who are the racists. so far twenty families live here and more homes are being built the local government went to court to stop people here from building any more houses the minister palettes he says these homes were built without permission and contravene bolding regulations the court agreed but judges are also considering whether or not a town that allows only white afrikaner people to live there should be allowed to exist in a democratic south africa one of the smaller and newly formed political parties black first land first has banned white south africans from joining it we have
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a black. letter to be. accept white people for the party sentiments resonate with some in a country many consider to be one of the most unequal in the world it's been accused of exercising discrimination and taken to court the wrong of this country is anti black the whole economy system is under the media projection of let problems is on to black. we are going to the parliament therefore truly presenting a real voice of for people to bring a proper live democracy in a black country where the apartheid system and its policies based on race may have been abolished twenty five years ago many here say they have to live with its legacy and come election day the vote of many south africans will be influenced by race and identity. al-jazeera south africa. well still ahead on al-jazeera syria's government intensifies attacks on the rebel held northwest.
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venezuela's opposition leader makes another bid for the support of the country's military. however the web is largely financial i now across the middle east things about whether it should be temperature starting to ramp up as well for the fed but a cloud just moving across iraq is coming out of the caucuses really black sea to the caspian sea some wet weather coming into northern parts of iran as a pulse as a possibility because of that clap i would say was yes this out of the med is fine and dry beginning up into the mid twenty's love the sunshine there for lebanon for jordan syria pushing down into a spread of this warm astonish and still has to go on into monday thirty celsius in beirut and also into jerusalem some
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a thirty foot baghdad thirty three therefore kuwait city little bit of cloud pushing over towards that kind of stunt that many stop but it should stay losey try thirty four celsius in karate hopefully the hate here beginning to ease and meanwhile he started to ramp up across the arabian peninsula here and thirty six celsius on sunday some attempts to go on into monday a little bit of cloud united states here so was the possibility of a sport so say of rain overnight he would be few and far between in the right is few and far between across much of southern africa also want to see showers into northern parts of mozambique the west the weather is further north into parts of southern towns in the. sponsored by. people the way you all recalled on this travel in fact a few years ago there is a place only for one state on the land of israel i do not believe in a two state solution the official story isn't there and. i don't care about the official story if you were to go visit today you would say what has the media been
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telling the world isn't black and white there's lots of grays if you join me man the front of my guests from around the world take the hot seat and we debate the week's top stories and big issues here on al-jazeera. are watching al-jazeera time to recap our headlines now four palestinians have been killed including a pregnant mother and fourteen month old baby as israeli warplanes hit the gaza strip the strikes were launched after palestinian fighters fired dozens of rockets into southern israel killing one israeli north korea has released pictures of
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leader kim jong un inspecting rocket launches from the country's east coast kim has also told his troops to be on. the youngest brother of algeria's ousted president has been arrested beautifully had been algeria's de facto ruler lizzie's suffered a stroke in two thousand and. two former intelligence chiefs have also been taken into custody. syrian government forces and their russian allies of pounded the rebel held northwest of the country with more airstrikes at least twenty two people have died after an escalation of violence in lebanon province is this friday. month old truce is the last rebel held province in syria and borders turkey russia and turkey negotiated a cease fire in september which is so far averted a full government offensive but it is mostly held by the. age ts formally known as. they aren't part of that the escalation agreement the province
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is home to more than three million civilians around half of them were displaced and moved there after the government took aleppo eastern and other areas from the rebels. as more. volunteers worked throughout the day to check for signs of life in buildings bombed by the syrian regime and its russian ally and he said. there's an intense campaign on residential areas there helicopters on this village twice thank god the losses are only material because the village has been targeted before and everyone has evacuated. the white helmet say more than twenty civilians have been killed and dozens more wounded in airstrikes and shelling since friday morning. the u.n. says schools markets and displacement camps have been struck in recent days and barrel bombings have returned with the frequency. not seen in more than
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a year italy province and surrounding areas were declared a deescalation zone last year under an agreement reached between russia and turkey intended to avert a major offensive on the rebel held area that agreement appears to be under threat activists say syrian and russian government forces launched more than eighty strikes on saturday two hundred fifty thousand people have already been displaced in the latest wave of violence if there is. really a tack really. isn't . settle. itself. of those then we're going to have an enormous crisis then we're talking about two hundred thousand up to a million of it will be on the rules right now. i'm still hopeful that's not going
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to happen i'm still hopeful that this will be contained to die out of confrontation . as government tanks and troops move towards it live in greater numbers state media say they are there to target terrorists from a group linked to al qaeda but many fear this could be the start of a bigger operation to take the final rebel held stronghold home to nearly three million civilians one million of them children enter chapelle al jazeera. as well as opposition leaders made another bid for the support of the country's military in his attempt to take over as president. soldiers to break ranks with president nicolas maduro but military commanders have remained loyal to madrid oh so far there is a pro from caracas. venezuela you are venezuela it's now or never that's the message from sanchez to this police officers in caracas.
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but it sounds like a pretty from someone who always tired of the ongoing crisis in the country that. there's so much needed in our neighborhoods people cannot eat there's no medicine no security and they know it because they have family my husband died because we can find medicine. from all across cracka ass small groups of people headed to the headquarters of the navy the army the police and the bolivarian national guard responding to opposition leader one last call to go out and convince them to switch sides people have come here to hand in. document but also distributing leaflets like this one to talk about an amnesty door that has been offered to those who rebel against the government except those involved in human rights abuses a war crimes the regular security forces did not take the message well.
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the government is not taking challenge to precedent. they deployed hundreds of security forces around the capital. appeared on state t.v. leading military exercises also showing the armed forces remain loyal to him. not only when but look out a handful of traitors can tarnish the owner union question an image of the bolivarian national an armed forces in front of the people of the word no say no to traders out with the traders and those in the theater. the united states says it has been trying to negotiate. it with defense minister by the and others in government. they were supposed to be part of the uprising alongside why the but things did not work out as the opposition leader planned some say those
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negotiations were a trap carefully planned with the assistance of the cuban intelligence services. congressman winston florida says he will continue pressuring the government. forces are infiltrated by the cubans the russians and by intelligence agencies their relatives are persecuted there's a lot of pressure but we will continue we will take our message to the families of the armed forces and everyone else we need to. civilians asking for change. a message that resonates across venezuela mostly because. of the enormous economic crisis the country is now in. separately the u.s. is again sending mixed messages regarding venezuela after speaking to president vladimir putin this week donald trump downplayed any russian involvement in caracas
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but is secretary of state might pale had this to say about moscow. last month i visited colombia and saw firsthand the misery the murderers created with the russians and cubans help the same see as the desperation of playing out all across venezuela they must and the time for transition is now at least nine soldiers have been killed in an attack on a training camp for forces loyal to libyan warlords only for half dot he's blaming the attack on ethnic taboo forces aligned with the u.n. recognize government in tripoli. has more from the capital. now have to his forces in the south of libya say that they are calling on their simple command of have to us was in the east of libya to send more troops to sustain and maintain security in the cells that of libya we know that the city of.
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forces loyal to the world have heard since february but this has been all those unstable especially since help us forces should civil campaigns and the there are civil military with groups in the cells who are opponent of the warlord who have to especially fighters and also fighters from. minority in the south of libya. some of the armed groups in the south of of libya which are opponent to have to some of them are allied with the recognized government and others are allied with it on tribal affiliations some of the tribes and the to work trades generally speaking of libya there are civil airports and also oil fields or who have been taken control of by have to recently but
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the situation now remains very honest people specially after most of the troops have put have troops that have been controlling and securing the airport in the cells have moved to the north to take part in the offensive line should they have their forces to take control of the capital tripoli. european leaders have criticized washington's decision to restrict oil trade with iran that developments come after iran's president called on his country to resist and unite against the u.s. after it tightened restrictions on terrans nuclear program the u.s. . did not renew two key sanctions waivers iran will now be in violation of the curbs if it continues to ship surplus heavy water made in the nuclear process to oman the us has also made it harder for iran to dispose of any enrich uranium but it has renewed some sanctions waivers that allow russia china the u.k.
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and france to work with iran on civilian nuclear projects. president hassan rouhani says the u.s. is trying to sow division among iranians joe many call about all you general getting as the united states is violating international laws and pressuring companies to prevent them cooperating with iran and seeking to weaken our currency and the independence of our country there are huge conspiracies against our country and the american administration is waging a political and psychological war against us and is seeking to change the regime in iran washington aims to spread division in the country and the iranians must unite to face this war. nearly a month after sudanese president omar bashir was ousted from office protesters are still venting their anger at the transitional military council and some say they're confident their demands for civilian rule will be realized soon i'm about reports from khartoum i. there's no letup in porto since we've
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done public and god is the transitional military council is in no way. given us a full storm mulk an impasse between the military council and the discontinue the protesters say they have no confidence in their actions than any other paul says but it also got you know is that the revolution not here that's why we are pushing no faith in the e.u. we do not discriminate against anyone we will win the wolf from right here in. these a festive mood here families have come hoping to be part of history all sitting the military council is exhausting work for some of the big companies out here for weeks they're angry and. in their almost endless chanting the military council is that it got it as close as that it former president on what i. had them seen in the military have ruled us for all these years and we have nothing
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to show for it except in justice that a civilian government is what we urgently. this people are the ones before plays that will help. play the long. finals i think they will hold them back a deadline issued by the military for the removal of body kits from broads bridges and. lobster but is kind of removing them the protesters reinforced the body creates. this you know not here but i mean we will never remove the barricades because they're here for our security checkpoints we have not people with weapons or drugs wishing to cause people harm we can't take chances. the daily demonstrations in this square helping should call for a march to the bridge to. talk with the little. that is why we will. think you know anything. about the world just.
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now thousands of muslims have attended the reopening of a new storage mosque destroyed in one nine hundred ninety two as the bosnian war erupted the sixteenth century in the town of thought cho was a masterpiece of classical ottoman architecture it was one of many mosques blown up by forces during the conflict which tore apart the former yugoslavia for chair had a muslim population of about twenty thousand today there's only one thousand the ceremony aim to encourage reconciliation between bosnian serb and cried communities . i'm sad to say that now with a look at the headlines here now to zero four palestinians have been killed including a pregnant mother and her fourteen month old baby as israeli warplanes hit the gaza strip the strikes were launched after palestinian fighters fired hundreds of rockets into southern israel killing one israeli. john yang is released pictures of
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kim journo overseeing rocket launches from the country's east coast the north korean leader told these troops to be on alert. all south korea's president says he's concerned by the launches but u.s. president dog tweeted kim jong un doesn't want to break the promises made to him referring to commitments on denuclearization the youngest brother of algeria's ousted president has been arrested said beautifully been the jury is de facto rulers and some delays these beautifully suffered a stroke in two thousand and thirteen two former intelligence chiefs have also been taken into custody weeks of protests forced would have legal to resign last month after he attempted to run for a fifth term syrian and russian government forces are continuing to strike rebel factions in the province of what's meant to be the escalation zone at least twenty two people have been killed the fighting is forcing thousands of people from their homes. the u.s.
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is again sending mixed messages on venezuela after speaking to present vladimir putin this week donald trump downplayed any russian involvement in caracas but on saturday his secretary of state contradicted him last month i visited. and saw firsthand the misery the murderers created with the russians and cubans help these same scenes of desperation are playing out all across venezuela they must and the time for transition is now in france antigovernment protesters of march for the twenty fifth straight week but turnout was down dozens of yellow vests demonstrators gathered in paris and other cities on saturday earlier in the week there was violence and tens of thousands took to the streets on may day hundreds were arrested after the street battles with police proposals by the government to increase tax on fuel triggered the first protests late last year the measure was never put in place but demonstrations continue. those i had lines the
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news continues after up front stay with us. the difference. and the similarities of cultures across the world. no matter where you take it al-jazeera will bring you the news and current affairs that matter to you al-jazeera. as india goes to the polls what's the future for muslims christians and other minorities if they're in their mo the in the b j p when again. i met the arson in the recent easter sunday attacks that left hundreds dead across sri lanka reports now suggest at least one of the suicide bombers trained in syria
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with i thought so is it too dangerous to allow former i saw fighters who believe in syria or iraq or even their family members to return to their home countries that's our debate but first the world's biggest exercise in democracy is underway in india with more than one hundred million eligible voters and two thousand political parties prime minister narendra modi and his right wing nationalist party the b j p are looking to secure another victory but given the dramatic rise in hate speech and communal violence why should indians reelect modi for another five years all of this week's headliner spokes person alan kohler. balun kohli thanks for joining me on up front india is in the midst of elections and your party the b j p has been in power since twenty fourteen when they're in the remote is your country's prime minister but given your term in office has been marked by a nearly thirty percent rise in communal violence according to your own government
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ministry figures why should the people of india especially people from minority communities reelect the b j p. there are two reasons that you would see increase in statistics when i speak also and as as an advocate is there too we also encourage greater reporting for example sometimes it said that rapes in india have increased simultaneously you also have importing which means encouraging weak teams to come out and call and report so that's one part to it so statistics don't always give you the complete picture so if you would ask me as a government why should minorities or as a matter of fact why should any indian citizen look at the b j p back to power and prime minister more these specifically so my counter-question is now show me a single deet of prime minister more these government that distinguishes between a in the muslim or christian of borders to jew or parsi or any other religion that is in india in any way show us a scheme that is discriminatory in any sense of violates the constitutional
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principle of equality before the law so therefore i don't see it basically charges are made on us but i don't deny that agenda and work ever shows that well we're coming to inequality discrimination in a moment just on the attacks so when the u.n. high commissioner for human rights michel basher warns of increasing harassment and targeting of minorities in particular muslims and balance she's just a victim of misreporting in your view. well actually i personally reject it i don't hold them in very high regard personally because i think if they would like to travel it'll be on the can try and of their offices i think they'll have enough work to do in the world that we live in india it's not the place that they need to be focusing on indians are focused on what's going on in india according to a study by india's and the t.v. network since your government came to office the use of hateful and divisive language by top politicians in india shot up by nearly five hundred percent they say your party's president for example i met shar recently referred to undocumented
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muslim immigrants from bangladesh as quote termites and infiltrators are you ok with that kind of basically nazi like dehumanizing language the kind of language this preceded ethnic cleansing and genocide in countries across the world infiltrators termites william use multiple questions into one so let's try and address each one of them so let's basically look at the analogy of a termite essentially and in india we are used to it because we do have a lot of mites they come from the ground and they eat you up hollow from inside and therefore in india if you would travel and ask people who live in the east india which has been inundated by millions of illegal immigrants we have districts in the state of assam that no longer have indian citizens and when i say indian citizens we are including indian muslims too who are just on the language. and infiltrators that's not dehumanizing language no i think it's an analogy and it's a perfectly apt analogy because we make for cases when we raise these issues of illegal
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immigrants we point out that they are the security of us because we had in terms of india's reports coming out of links to terrorist networks and we have been terrorism for almost three decades particularly from pakistan the second part is in terms of draining resources meant for indian citizens indian citizens are including muslim citizens and if you are going to have people who are not natural. citizens of yours coming in there and let's look at it immigration is a problem that many countries in the west or whether it's you or whether it's the united states i love it i'm going to jump in there was a different terminologies and donald trump has been criticized for racist language so not the best analogy maybe how about the government minister of union minister on a day who has said and i quote as long as there is islam in the world there will be terrorism until we uproot islam we can't remove terrorism you're ok with that rhetoric you're ok with him being in government representing the b.g.p.
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well number one i do i'm in my position to basically say that every individual has a right to articulate their point of view and as individuals we have spoken as individual capacity and he has not spoken that in terms of a government policy to you ask me in my view i think i respect every religion and as far as i see it i am concerned about violence in the world but then i have the greatest respect for islam as much as i die for any other religion which is. someone who respects islam and indian muslims how do you feel about a b j p minister saying until we uproot islam we can move terrorism if it said until we were hindu ism would you be ok with that we wouldn't be ok with that why are you ok with this one is he not designed when he was you know as they fired. well you get that is that if we start looking at it only from the perspective of what b.g.p. says it then i'd say that you'd first have to do it if you want to make a case against egypt you have to look at the performance of every government in the statements and wild statements and crazy see i mean coming from
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a lot of the. lawyers you know there was a lot and i'm. going to tell you you're going to answer but this is what about is about you know saying what about congress what about other people i'm asking all of them when they're on my show i've interviewed shooter on the show happy to ask him all those questions i'm asking you on behalf of the b.g.p. you have a minister in government who says i repeat until we are islam we can't remove terrorism how does he stay in his job after making such an outrageous claim well i think there are three parts to it so if you ask me i'll say it also frankly. if we look at the global terrorist map there is the misuse of the slot by a large number of people and i know that it's not going to be without a thought it was not what really got that what he said we just respect let me know you love to hear this because it's uncomfortable so let's start at the end of this lot of trouble we've devoted into isis and to muslim terrorism yeah but you know i'm not going to let it finish that until we are brute islam yes the world you're ok with that so let me just no one really you're trying to get an answer from me
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without letting me complete it so i will give this is a. go has he spoken after perhaps. ten years coming and blowing up a few individuals we see as hundreds and thousands of people who have suffered from terrorism so that it may be more in that context he may be giving up point of view which may not be what you and i use the same kind of language but he's entitled to under the constitution to have a point of view these as a point of view interestingly you mention kind of islamist terrorism and clearly muslims are involved in terrorism around the world christians have been involved in terrorism jews have been involved in terrorism and yet your prime minister nuri in a mode he said last month that quote nowhere in history have any hindus been involved in terrorism that's a ridiculous statement to make isn't it of course to have. well in the vast majority you would look at it in a somewhat of a legitimate issue and save our planet i'm giving a straight answer you're not going to but i don't so you're literally jumped away and i asked what i wrote he said nowhere in history i'm quoting your prime minister no where in history have hindus been involved in terms of that's not true we can
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both agree on that right when i have not heard of anybody using it. as a. just so the most famous probably terrorist in indian history who murdered mahatma gandhi the rightwing hindu nationalists not to run god say member of the r.s.s. the volunteer group that mr modi is also a member of he's not a hindu terrorist he's not a hindu committed an act of terrorism or well i mean i don't want that then perhaps you are looking at every murder to be touted as a new weapon though i think the assassination of mohammad gundy was an act of terror i think that's fair to say it's a murder ok it's as simple but you're defining it as ted or ok i'm looking at it as this so let's go one by one how do we define in fact this is an interesting you know you define terrorism by a number of muslims let me just do my understanding of terrorism is when an individual in any capacity individually or backed up by a group in any pieces picks up and goes out and kills more than single individual human being by a bomb blowing themselves up picking up a gun and that's also an you know an act of terror in that sense because it's
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terrorizing more than a single human being that's not what i want to sort of terrorism that the un uses or the us or the e.u. it's not about numbers of people dead it's about the political objectives but even if you take your definition of multiple people into looking a little acknowledge it just give them two thousand to finish an action of the result i got i got a lot i need to ask a question the lebanese are not. hundreds of people were killed by hindu nationalists terrorists were there not that was hundreds of people killed by hindu nationalist i will disagree with you completely because you see on the good routings i worked on that too so while everybody looks out the best to be korean looks at the muslims who got killed why we also talk about the indians who went out and seemed the muslims why don't we talk of the good job police that went into the new i mean by splitting. in short i don't mean i thought this is not a terrorist group because iraqi police fight them that's a weird analogy you know that we have been talking about the people who killed people in the drop whether or not terrorists yes or no have you finished so let me put it like this. number one you are looking some way to make
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a interesting headline that terrorism is defined in a new way when it comes to look at it at the india i'm going to reject that outright as a political person and as an advocate i can not count you out all the lights in india which is the part of india's history starting from one nine hundred forty seven right up still no one's ability to speak i mean i don't know none of us so there's no one not there's a lot of things we have i don't disagree with genocide i'm sorry let's you know but what about the genocide of eighty four again you're not about a motive and you literally saying what about about i'm not going to think that i don't question it a lot i get it in fact i begin to holland's editors and not to let me get under i saying muslims jews christians sikhs all carry out acts of terror you're the only one saying hindu there is not every act of violence and i disagree with you and i will continue to disagree because you are looking at defining every act of violence as dead or doesn't and i making a qualified well let's take it that if it were running out of time let's take
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a specific case right now the g.o.p. has nominated for parliament a radical hindu nationalist name praga singh tuck or who is currently on bail facing tara charges under your indian legal system for her alleged involvement in a two thousand and eight bomb attack that killed six people can you point to a governing party anywhere in the democratic world which nominates candidates for office who are on trial for terrorism. well you should have come in that ended her being in the honorable supreme court where within that. in so many years of investigation under different regimes of government and i'm talking pragmatically of how to position body the congress party which went in and couldn't find an iota of evidence against you can't delete a person just because you believe that she may have committed an act of confused it's as simple as that lays out on bail maybe i'm mistaken she's not on trial for terrorism not she is i'm saying that you're ok with i wasn't on trial for terrorism standing in parno she has
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a man i guess i'm waiting all right maybe she was framed but right now she's currently on trial for terrorism and she's running as a candidate for your party and my answer to that is exactly what i said a moment ago all the supreme court is where finally she got to be on the basic guns go read the judgment don't ask me read the judgment don't you tell your viewers so solemnly throughout the case and she's innocent is that what you're saying i never said that was the only way to go in the central point i'm simply saying that there is not an iota of evidence that trial is going to trial eventually as it's happened with another person of the similar that we agree on trial you believe she's innocent but right now she is on trial for terrorism including one final question given we've seen this insurance in communal violence the car vigilante killings which we didn't have time to discuss the anti muslim rhetoric which we did discuss your government's even been accused of rewriting history books to take out the muslim rulers there's a lot of talk about hindu nationalism right now on your watch is it fair to say
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that the ultimate goal of a b j p government in the long run is to turn india into a hindu rashtra a hindu state is that the ultimate goal. constitutionally india is a country where every religion is given equal rights all indian citizens we are first indian citizens then we are in those muslims christians but the so whatever think that's how it is the muslims who stayed back in one thousand forty seven chose to make india their land and then two of the constitution got rights for themselves as muslims or christians or whatever and so that's not something you support you don't support a hindu russia i mean let me said bluntly muslims are as much citizens of india as in those us so are christians so i bought it so there is no denial of the fact that we are all indian citizens first you say the constitution gives us that likely but you still got out of the question do you support a hindu state building just hindu state yes or no we are a country that does not if you are logical you. logic we are a country that runs on the constitution that's your answer pick up the constitution
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and the constitution doesn't speak of a in what a muslim state pakistan runs on islam india and all members of the b.g.p. do talk about a hindu state so i'm just wondering do you know in cali support that call for hindu state well that's a thirty minute debate to understand in what context its use not to convert india into a theologically driven in the state unfortunately we have another thirty minutes another in cali. not appreciate you joining me on that front thank you thank you more than two hundred fifty people were killed on easter sunday when eight coordinated bomb blasts tore through multiple sites in sri lanka i still claim responsibility and according to a new report at least one of the suicide bombers trained in syria with the group and that's reignited the debate in the west over what to do with the thousands of foreign fighters who've been captured should they be allowed to return home earlier i spoke to mr gifford a self-styled anti eisel campaigner who fought with the kurdish why p.g. in syria and just a middle girl former pentagon official in the obama administration i began by
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asking jasmine why she believes eisel fighters should be repatriated back to the u.s. the u.k. and elsewhere so the alternative to law. taking them back now to leave them where they are right now and that means leaving some of them under control of the s.d.f. in syria which is a non-state actor and has no capacity to handle them and the other option is to leave the others and iraq under the capacity or under the jurisdiction of the iraqi government which has really shown that it also doesn't have the capacity to try them in a fair or humane manner where people are shoved into courtrooms and they have five minute trials after which they could be sentenced to death for those isis fighters who are not able to be tried in courts there are languishing in prisons they could either escape or in the meantime be further radicalized neither of those options are good for the west so what's wrong with bringing them back to their home countries where they were born and raised where they have citizenship i'm trying them i actually disagree with just one of the options on the table that has already
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declared is that they're willing to crane's an international courts in syria pops on the syrian iraqi border to try. fighters and their supporters at the moment they remain a huge threat to the west they've been i'd. indoctrinated since their arrival and never been receiving a huge amount of military training and we simply can't take the risk of allowing these people hundreds of well trained jihadi to float back into the west back into britain back into your back to america and potentially cause another terrorist acts but most are not all of them are quote unquote just how do you use or terrorists or fighters we read a lot these days in the papers about the quote unquote broods young women who went down for whatever reason and they want to defend why they went but go and get married have kids and now realise they made a big mistake may have committed crimes too but not terrorists i want to come home
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and i'm going to face the music how can you be approached to go. no i disagree that . the women are just as culpable as the men many of them women fought alongside isis fighters on the front line as evidence of this young lady for instance. stitching suicide vests on to islamic states since these people are well trained as much of part of a part of the islamic state machinery as the men and alone them back and into the west is incredibly dangerous take one example someone debating a young spent time in libya whose father and brother was fighting in libya he came was allowed to come back to this country where he detonated a suicide vest in manchester arena killing dozens of young girls so that's the threat that we face just one of these people can commit a terrible crime drugs are going from don't have
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a listen. first of all it's really really difficult to hold an international tribunal to try isis fighters because internationally there is no one agreed upon definition of terrorism on the ice that's a bride's i fundamentally disagree with this idea that we know that every single woman and then you for minors who went to travel to syria to join isis were doing so because they wanted to commit crimes to commit terrorist attacks or in the case of show my might be good which i agree with may say that she actually was culpable because they wanted to help recruit other women many of these women and we know this both anecdotally and from intelligence genuinely wanted to go live under an islamic state they were tired of being looked at as the other in europe tired of being looked at differently because they were wearing a head job or a niqab and they just wanted to practice a pious life now once they got there they realized that that was not what was happening and a lot of them have since expressed a desire to come home to live with are going to make
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a very good point if you made the point that if if even one of them comes back could be dangerous could you turn them on its head not all of them are dangerous even though. all of them just made a mistake with a young person a teenager was to come home and fix their life an obstacle whatever crimes that may be involved how can you be against. true maybe even if ninety percent ninety five percent of them want to return back to the u.k. and return back to their normal lives and present a risk there is an argument they can come back for the truth then it just takes more but more important than that what does that say about our country that we allow these people to leave the u.k. to leave to leave europe go to syria to fight alongside the islamic state that has devastated syria iraq kill thousands of young boys and men in ditches as well and there are a lot of dillinger's across the face of it was also about the u.k. or the us that they would strip citizenship from these people the u.k. is strips of the ship from show me a big i'm on the grounds that she is the daughter of bangladeshi immigrants to the
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u.k. that seems to a lot of people to be racist you don't stripping citizenship from white isis fighters only from the brown ones well that's not true it hasn't been stripped of his citizenship yet but there's one young man so-called jihadi jack jack let's he is liable to have his citizenship renewed since he is also a citizen of canada has and how should he ever get out of that of any other country she's born and brought up in the u.k. she's raised in the u.k. she the citizen of the u.k. shouldn't she therefore be tried in the u.k. under the rights that she has a citizen but under british law you can have your citizenship removed if your parents are from a remote but that's not a country or if you're going to from another country but if your parents are not from another country you can't have your for them to rule that is a double standard based on immigrant status many would say that's racist. just because the hardliners of that i really don't exist. if i can just add our jack to
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. that is if i can do that so i can say this i'd like to make a point first of all. u.k. foreign minister does want. to strip her of citizenship because he says that she is a citizen of bangladesh both both her share self and the government of bangladesh has said she is not a citizen of bangladesh so effectively she would be stripped of her citizenship and we cannot render any person stateless the second is that we cannot deny a person's right to return to their country of origin which as you know assad in syria is doing to refugees who want to come home it's against international law it's against the geneva conventions the other thing is that we have an obligation to follow the principles of humanity and we have to act humanely and aren't don't seem to there's. a lot of these people boom the pulse proudly so that is such a good point that you that is such an important point because what a lot of people who are against the idea of repatriation are saying is exactly what
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you just said these people revoke to their own right to be citizens of our countries they burned their passports they left they want to fight us and destroy our civilizations yes that is what isis wanted to do that is not what we do as western states that is not who we are that is not who the united states is it's not with the united kingdom is we don't abide by the standards that isis set so we follow our own law we follow international law because the worst thing to do right now is after working so hard and spending so much money blood and treasure to defeat isis militarily it's to give them that propaganda victory that moral victory to let them know that they made us walk away from our mindset and our values the only thing that i would say is that she's come to me and she's lost her liberty she's and i present company in syria the british government has taken the view that she's a threat to the u.k. that she has. parents citizenship is not an automatic rights.
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and she has been stripped of us it's a nationalist returned to her family's country forged. to make any sense that is not a home base so you keep repeating it what do you mean bangladesh is i have not heard of montreal registered on a very firm not. just mesa but that's not that's not the same so in the in the united states if you are born in the united in the us you are a citizen of the us if you are born in the u.k. under british law that doesn't automatically mean that your apartment citizen. says that you have a right to be implications and she will just punish you as a british something that was screwed jasmine let me ask you this day and talk about quote unquote deal radicalisation are you saying that they should be brought back and rehabilitated or brought back and punished. and i'm just saying they should be brought back and put under trial and determined whether they were actually a criminal and a threat in which case we should prosecute them to the fullest extent of our laws
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or if they were deemed to be ideologically sort of straying and want to go to the islamic state just to live under islamic law then they should be rehabilitated my point mehdi is an important one here because i want to challenge the premise that we are allowing them to come back and just wander in the streets and hang out at starbucks and pose a threat to our societies that's not what i'm saying these western countries including the u.k. have the capabilities to bring them back put them under trial under criminal laws in those countries which wasn't easy to really prosecute i think of the four hundred people who've come back. to prosecute these people in the. park ok but what and it's not easy it's not easy but it's not him but it's not easy but it's not impossible we have laws on the books the alternative to bringing them back and trying them however difficult it is is to let them stay in syria and iraq potentially becoming more radicalized and posing a greater risk to us in the future in a place where we can't control them or account for them already radicalized doesn't
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mean a good model makes a good food we'll have to leave it there thank you both for joining me now from. fox our shirts off from the report next week. my main sufficient every weekly news anchor brings a series of breaking stories and then of course there's donald trump told through the eyes of the welts jannah nice that's right out of a hamas script that calls for the annihilation of israel that is not what that
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phrase means at all he joined the listening post as we turned the cameras on the media focus on how they were caught on the stories that matter the most in better use a free palestine a listening post on al-jazeera. a palestinian mother and baby out killed by israeli airstrikes in gaza the dozens of rockets five in the southern israel one day.
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on saturday than this is al jazeera live from coming up kim jong un tells his troops to stay on high alert as new photos are released of the north korean leader overseeing the latest missile test. syrian government as strikes and shelling killed. twenty two civilians in twenty four hours in the rebel held northwest. where a black swan looking as they see here will not accept white people south africa's racial divisions out in the open ahead of wednesday's election. day and night of israeli airstrikes and palestinian rocket attacks have left seven people dead. this was a strike on gaza by israeli warplanes one of many carried out on saturday evening
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six palestinians have been killed in this strip in less than twenty four hours a pregnant mother and their fourteen month old child among them the latest strikes on gaza came after palestinian fighters fired hundreds of rockets into southern israel one of two people wounded as now died in hospital this follows months of palestinian protests at the gaza border calling for an end to israel's occupation israeli forces have shot and killed more than two hundred protesters harry forsett reports from west jerusalem. barely a month since the last military escalation waves of israeli warplanes again struck gaza the israeli military said it hit dozens of targets linked to hamas and other factions. throughout the day israeli commanders said scores of rockets were fired from the strip into israel several evading the iron dome anti missile interceptors and striking israeli residential areas around gaza's fringes we already knew that.
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you know to react and out there to fight within the terrorist. killed yesterday for where we knew found three we're hoping to palestinian demonstrators were killed and fifty one wounded by israeli snipers during border protests on friday which also saw two israeli soldiers shot and injured an israeli strike then killed to hamas fighters their deaths and a subsequent israeli drone strike preceded saturday's barrels of rocket fire out of gaza this is far from the first time in recent months that israel and hamas are found themselves in the midst of a dangerous escalation the last one in early april was ended by u.n. and egyptian mediation and reportedly undertakings given by israel just days ahead of its. general election to ease the restrictions on gaza it did extend the fishing zone out to fifteen nautical miles from the coast but other reported concessions
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such as allowing increased payments from qatar to hamas of forty million dollars a month have yet to happen i have mass and other palestinian resistance to go believe that this is the right timing to put more pressure on netanyahu and his way to government to make israel abide by the previous understanding's the timing is very sensitive israel is approaching its. seventh if there is an independence day and also there you want a vision festivities and a video released on saturday the al kurds brigades the military wing of the islamic jihad threaten to expand its range of rocket fire to haifa in the north ben-gurion airport near tel aviv and israel's an acknowledged nuclear reactor in the south. in recent months attacks from both sides of followed a pattern of casualties have been kept to a minimum avoiding a full scale conflict. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu has plenty of reasons to stick to that script before this month's independence day celebrations and the euro vision song contest in tel aviv. but both sides
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also know they can't rule out the risk of a further escalation towards a wider war. harry forces joins us now live from the gaza israel border how quiet things now. well right now things are fairly quiet but just fifteen minutes ago or so we heard some loud explosions coming from the gaza area behind us so there are no indications yet that this latest escalation is anything approaching being over indeed we're getting new figures from the israeli military saying that some four hundred thirty rockets have been fired from gaza into israeli territory jury in the course of this latest escalation they say that they have struck some two hundred targets inside gaza and overnight as you reported the beginning of the show there has been confirmation of the first israeli death a fifty eight year old man in ashkelon who was injured and and indeed later
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died of his wounds from a rocket strike in that city on israeli media it's being reported that he left the bomb shelter temporarily for a cigarette break according to a relative and that's when he was struck and later died as far as the casualties inside gaza as you say the current toll stands at six since the beginning of this escalation including. a young pregnant mother and her toddler child there are denials coming from the israeli military that it was an israeli airstrike that killed them they say that there are indications that it could have been a rocket that went wrong being fired out of gaza itself but no confirmation either way on that what we do have though is another dangerous round of escalation very similar to what we've seen so many times over the last year or so and as you heard
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in that report the timing is very significant here. harry we understand the israeli security council cabinet is going to be meeting while of course palestinian factions are warning israel not to escalate things any further what sort of options will they be looking at. oh yes both sides in fact are warning the other saying that they will continue their. strikes on each other if the other side continues to do so as well so it's a pretty. dangerous situation with that with these threats continuing as you say israel's security cabinet is due to meet at around twelve thirty local time that's nine thirty g.m.t. led by the prime minister benjamin netanyahu there is there has been reporting in the israeli media quoting senior security sources suggesting that this won't be
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over before two or three days' worth of fighting that presumably benjamin netanyahu feels he needs to under some political pressure show a stronger response potentially than he has in previous such rounds but obviously the calibration of this is very difficult as we've seen there already fatalities on both sides the more that that takes place the more this can build up a momentum of its own on the palestinian side we've had a statement in the early hours of this morning from the fighting factions inside gaza saying that they are considering expanding their range of fire beyond forty kilometers if israel continues its rockets its strikes and artillery strikes so that remains a very delicately balanced and potentially very dangerous situation right harry forces there from gaza. pyongyang has released pictures of kim jong un overseeing rocket launches from north korea's east coast the country's leader said
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he was satisfied with the tests and called on troops to stay on high alert south korea's president says he's concerned by the launches meanwhile u.s. president donald trump tweeted kim jong un doesn't want to break the promises made to him referring to commitments on denuclearization trump said i believe that kim jong un fully realizes the great economic potential of north korea and will do nothing to interfere or end it also knows i am with him and does not want to break his promise to me deal will happen. is a former u.s. state department diplomat specializing in north korea he says trump's focus on economic growth in north korea won't be enough for it to give up nuclear weapons. there is a belief that north korea desperately wants to bolster its economy and that if only it would get great economic aid from the united states it would completely denuclearize and the united states is certainly right that economic incentives do
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matter in some way to north korea especially partial sanctions relief but it certainly will not get north korea to completely give up its nuclear weapons present a deal or happen but i see no evidence that we are anywhere close to a nuclear deal with north korea north korea probably does not have the domestic political space to take any of the bold risks or maneuver maneuvers that would restart the diplomatic process and washington for its part has not been creative enough or flexible enough to really take advantage of this diplomatic process and get us closer to a deal it has always been the case in both the obama administration and the trump and ministration that with an issue this important and this high profile the white house takes the lead and it sets the general policy direction and the state department really implements it drives diplomacy it comes up with ideas but the direction is at the white house level president trump and his subordinates have
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been on completely separate parallel tracks on north korea and it almost seems like they don't consult each other or accord innate their message and that's a huge difference from past administrations and that i think has a lot to do with the dysfunction we've seen in u.s. north korea diplomacy and it's very concerning. syria's government forces and their russian allies have pounded the rebel held northwest of the country with more air strikes had least twenty two people have died after an escalation of violence in hama province is this fight an eight month old truce it live is the last rebel held province in syria and borders to russia and turkey negotiated a cease fire in september which is so far averted a full government offensive but it is mostly held by the. h.t.s. formally known as nasr front it isn't part of that deescalation agreement the
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province is home to more than three million civilians around half move there after the government took aleppo eastern water and other areas from the rebels as more. volunteers worked throughout the day to check for signs of life in buildings bombed by the syrian regime and its russian ally. there's an intense campaign on residential areas there helicopters on this village twice thank god the losses are only material because the village has been targeted before and everyone has evacuated. the white helmet say more than twenty civilians have been killed and dozens more wounded in airstrikes and shelling since friday morning. the un schools markets and displacement camps have been struck in recent days and barrel bombings have returned with a frequency. not seen in more than a year.
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