bill was that it was really a chemical handling industry and that the magic of making these microcircuits relied on the use of hundreds if not thousands of very toxic chemicals and that's why they have clean rooms that's why they have bunny suits to try to protect the chips it was never designed to protect the workers it was always designed to protect the product itself or my god those of a lot of different chemicals they built the disk drives we had to strip them out and then would literally have to dip him in in severe gases and with a sponge and just with armed with security i do know what it was is i just knew it stunk really bad and you couldn't get it on your skin because it would burn you like nobody's business what would happen was people started getting sick was very strange kinds of illnesses things that didn't seem to make a lot of sense and didn't seem to hang together but increasingly as this happened more and more there was

a small group of people that began to think that maybe this was related to the chemical exposure on the job. one put music on yeah right i want to turn on the music for mom. that's some good music on today. right there. but this time we know there's a thing i charged it up. in the saying yes. and you marry one nine hundred seventy five i was eighteen years old and i started working in the electronics field i went to a specter of physics and they just hired me just like that. i was making the end of the laser and i would have to mix up this chemical used to call it green go. and get the consistency and then put it into a spray gun and i would have to heat that up after a glued on together that was just all day that i had to.

yvette in know the material she was using turns out to be probably in the vicinity of fifty percent little excise she didn't know she was exposed to lead in tell her that i got pregnant with mark in one thousand seventy nine and that was full term my months and we're just really happy about it. he doesn't even know to cross the street and know a car is coming to stop going to the restroom you know i have to go with him in there so i have to a system where everything is number one or you better know it if i knew what i know now how to read out a spec or fix at the time it was unnecessary it just. breaks my heart that i could avoid it. there you go we're filing this lawsuit against your employer

and it's a lawsuit for his son who was born with severe developmental disabilities and it's a suit concealment of systemic chemical poisoning and case of a vet and for the direct injuries to mark. marks condition isn't like a cold take antibiotics and you're going to be fine and by a days this is life. you're. just overrides all that and you do what you gotta do to stay i still do that. i'm sorry getting. and. i discovered i.b.m. had a corporate touted. which they kept for thirty years and it kept track of the causes of deaths of their toys it's the most dramatic findings were about cancer for the

company as a whole this was thirty three thousand deaths that were in this corporate mortality file so included people who had worked all over the u.s. . but then when you look at specific plants like the i.b.m. plant in san jose there was some extraordinary excess costs of deaths one was brain cancer another was not hodgkinson foma another was melanoma of the skin and in the women breast cancer was three and four fold higher than expected. that was the heart of this center was a lawsuit. in the santa clara courtroom today the first trial out of more than two hundred similar lawsuits filed against i.b.m. former i.b.m. workers jim bore and a lighter hernandez say they developed cancer from exposure to toxic chemicals at i.b.m. san jose facility in the late seventy's to early ninety's i mean literally tried to prevent the results of the tally analysis from ever seeing the light of day in fact they went to the judge and said this can't be used in this case

a lot ahead hernandez is not dead she's going to be in the courtroom and not only was it not relevant the judge said it prejudiced the jury if they saw what these excess costs deaths were and so he denied use of it in the court many of the brands will respond to questions by saying no one has ever proved to me that a single person has died from exposure to these chemicals either within inside their factories or outside of the factories and of discussion. but that's not the way that we approach environmental or occupational health in the world. we are not flying blind here at all especially on the chemicals at issue here in the electronics industry actually and most of the common chemical used in all industrial manufacturing we've been at this work for forty years.

if you look at the publicising generated by i.b.m. you would think that we lost everything and that's simply not coming. after the trial i.b.m. matters were resolved for hundreds of people whose claims did not go to trial. what can you tell us about the settlements. i'm not going to be able to talk about any of the resolutions of the cases and. can you give any details at all did you have to agree not to reveal the details as part of the settlements all i can say is that the matters were resolved that's what i'm allowed to say. here in silicon valley chip companies in the other electronics production companies

used hundreds if not thousands of toxic chemicals and the most of the chemicals once they're used in making the components needed to be disposed of as waste the companies ended up storing them in underground storage tanks all over the valley. but what the brilliant people who were designing these systems didn't quite think through all the way was that the solvent swer really good at dissolving things and so when you put them into a tank eventually they're going to eat their way through the tank. solvent that the electronics industry used in production in silicon valley in the seventy's and eighty's are now on in the groundwater and if you think about putting a drop of ink in a bathtub. that spreads really quickly and it's really hard to get that dropping back that's what we're dealing with except we're dealing with multiples of gallons

of the stuff that is in the groundwater. in late one thousand nine hundred one there were over one hundred families in one little neighborhood who had serious problems and the state health department discovered that the families that were drinking the most heavily contaminated water had significantly higher rates of miscarriages and birth defects then did people in other neighborhoods. with a chemical industry will often say if i had not a dime for every time i heard this that even water can kill you the most non toxic thing of course it can but only if you stick your face down in the bathtub or fall into you know fall into a large body of water. so that has the traditional approach to toxicology is that the more stuff you're exposed to the more harm it causes you but what we're seeing in particularly around cancer and around hormone disrupting chemicals is that it's when you're exposed to it the time of exposure so if you're in third trimester and

you get even a perp or billion apart for truly an exposure it can actually cause significant damage. we formed this silicon valley tuxes coalition and we did a summer organizing project getting people to sign petitions asking the e.p.a. step in with their authority in the superfund program yesterday. yes. yes. yes. and i went to a meeting in washington and presented these thousands of petitions saying we need e.p.a. to come in it's time for e.p.a. to exercise your authority and to everybody's great surprise they agreed to do that . so hewlett packard became a superfund site until became a superfund site national semiconductor advanced micro devices i.b.m. you name it they were there and they were all superfund sites.

the cost of cleanup for i.b.m. as well as all the other companies has been tremendous it's an enormously slow and tedious process. if you look right over here also this is a major residential neighborhood just directly across the street from this industrial site. most of the people living here today are unaware of this huge toxic plume. and those same chemicals that are still right under where we're standing are now beginning to seep back up out of the groundwater through the soil and are actually coming into the offices of these software engineers a google. and this is the one that e.p.a. said might take three hundred years to clean up. this is so complicated the devastation is so enormous that we're really talking centuries of cleanup not just

years or decades. the problem is that it just keeps reoccur. at least when companies started moving away from silicon valley to china i think that they were the only too happy to have the government off their back. their chinese government made an offer to multinational corporations that they couldn't refuse. you need a land and you need money and you need government approval and you need lots of people to put it all together well they have all of that in china. just. please please.

please one of the primary purposes of outsourcing is to enable companies like apple to make what are essentially an reasonable demands on manufacturers that they wouldn't and couldn't make if they actually had to employ the workers directly apple doesn't have to worry about what it means to workers when they insist on a tripling of the pace of i phone production. to. come in the new. ball. anyway focused on this is. how you can see as you go by the one you don't we see you know some of the.

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gaza border. israel as part of the fire has agreed to take measures. on the gaza strip but most notably is that me what was asked by hamas is that. by. previous made during the. war the israeli lack the u.s. is deploying an aircraft carrier group to the middle east to send what it calls a clear message to iran the u.s.s. abraham lincoln and support ships have been dispatched national security advisor john bolton says it's in response to what he calls troubling developments in the region u.s. president donald trump is stepping up pressure on china to resolve the trade dispute trump says the u.s. will raise tariffs on two hundred billion dollars worth of chinese products to twenty five percent on friday his announcement comes two days before

representatives from both countries are scheduled to resume trade talks at least fifty five people have died and dozens of been seriously injured after a tanker truck exploded in the capital in the army at least thirty people have been hospitalized. aviation authorities in russia have recovered flight data recorders from a plane that caught fire as it made an emergency landing in moscow on sunday russian media have quoted the pilot of the airliner who said the plane was without radio communications due to a lightning strike at least forty one people were killed russia says it won't ground it so wholly superjet one hundred planes. life on earth is in its worst state in hundreds of thousands of years and human activity is to blame that's the key finding of the u.n. body tasked with assessing the state of our planet's biodiversity a million species currently face the threat of extinction some within decades all

due to habitat destruction on land and sea. well thank you that's four hundred thirty in the fall down season is obviously youngest mousley workers died and fifteen others were injured after an explosion at a time factory in chengdu self-worth trying to. confront people you know you just. didn't look at around seven pm in a polishing workshop appears to have been triggered by an explosion of combustible dust in the duct. no one should be surprised that aluminum dust if it's in a high enough concentration and there is an ignition source it will produce explosion and fire this is a hazard which is extremely well known. so the fact that apple suppliers

have an explosion in chengdu in the plant means that they have very poor housekeeping very or production processes that's terrible. what's completely unacceptable is that five months later at another plant within the apple supply chain they had another explosion and fire. it's outrageously inexcusable that they had a second one five months later. they set up these ply chains exactly the way we want them they monitor these chains with exacting scrutiny so they know exactly what's going into their products at every point along the way.

but we have a town hall i fix it all began several show yeah the sum of all that good. so i have an i phone five here and them and show you a little bit about what's inside what makes it tick and some of the design choices that apple made putting it together to the first thing out bill has on the bottom is too proprietary penta loeb screws this is a security screw that apple designed to keep people out of the phone once you get the phone open we can start to see the guts. this isn't really a phone it's pretty much a full blown computer that can make your phone last for eight hours or you need a really big battery. batteries and phones last about four hundred charges every cell phone i've ever had to use pop the back up you can pull the battery out swap a new battery and every year or two you have to replace the battery apple has

decided with the i pod and now the i phone that they don't like that model so what they are doing is building the batteries and the phone and using proprietary screws on their an attempt to limit the lifespan of the following. eighteen months which is around the time when they have a new phone and they want you to buy a new one anyway. my fix is a company that wants to see everything get fixed so we show people how to fix things and provide the parts tools and guides to enable them to do so helping everyone fix everything so that's the challenge it's a big challenge because there's millions of devices out there luke and i are reluctant capitalists we get excited selling screwdrivers even though that seems like a boring product because we're selling people a capability where they're able to do something that they wouldn't have otherwise we want to make it simple and easy for me to repair their own stuff. the amount of raw materials that go into the products that we use are stagnant over five hundred

pounds around material go into making in a down south. so here's an example of a circuit board in this you waste bin this is out of apple laptop from a few years ago even if you make this circuit board in the most environmentally friendly way it's still going to use a ton of water a ton of money probably literally a ton of water lots and lots of materials. when we know so far this is a boat that you know. nothing is different. than the streets close the ways that through this the american manufacturers are. they're selling a thing and they're saying well you have it but you don't really own it. there's no way we're ever going to. ford would never sell you a car we're not going to make tires available to keep your car running after thirty

thousand miles you have an entire ecosystem an entire industry that's built on secrecy and. that's trying to pry open the show people what's inside. and we've kind of been conditioned by manufacturers and brands to leave yourself on the outside don't worry about the details we make this product we give it to you and you just use this product when it stops working you go buy a new one. when we originally started i fix it it was just a way to provide people with some solution to fix broken devices. and over time we've realized both the manufacturing and environmental problems are all huge concern. over the last few years i've been to china on a regular basis

a lot of that related to our tool manufacturing. we're looking at getting some circuit boards manufactured. this is the big rechargeable battery and this is the main circuit board in here so considering it's just a flashlight you can see it's a surprisingly complex circuit board and i've got these basic schematic to sort of board once we decide and we'll leave them with the saturday and. finding this supplier that is environmentally friendly has good quality and has reasonable pricing all three of those at once is probably going to be a challenge. was . section. by.

visiting factories we found that it's surprisingly effective to show up on short notice. and in general any factory of it's not willing to let you see the factory is an immediate red flag at least for someone that we don't want to do business with. this is. big line from the factory so this is where they're edging it bringing all these nasty acids and other chemicals and. you've got a little bit of acid believe you can see gilboa acid on the outside in the machine . i walked over to where there were some storage tanks and it was basically acid all over the floor and the moment i

looked over that they told me i mean it would get back away from here and this isn't giving me a good feeling. as far as making sure everything's done correctly environmentally it doesn't seem like that's a priority for them. and they go about the mouse who river and. the fact that it was so dear to you is the price you have to pay for the last thirty years of development you. don't buy from them. what you got was the time that someone. from all that i hope you know that incentives for them to be. not just by you. john

said and it's in detriment. to sensible things so so i said she brings my sense at the time to buy them just. as what the idea what that's like the model of model globally it's. not going to be that i'm going to do a lot of the document's numbers on so that it. doesn't you know but fox you know behind you since you took. there's a new google woman sitting down when i do it so you suddenly and so when we should . do it's a typical hypot. for them. but to get don't you think you. do see. that it is constantly changing.

the mall the job. you. spend a lot of time. we see. this is definitely the most professional of the factories visited. the fact that we're being taken through this water treatment facility is a really promising sign. you start out with incredibly yucky water and it goes through a progressive series of filters and other processes and eventually you end up with hopefully acceptably clean water. the coolest thing when the water is coming through the treatment facility some of the water comes out and dumps into this thing and they have fished in here in the factory owner said well they know the water treatment is working ok as long as the fish are still alive

a little unfortunate for the fish because if something breaks maybe the fish die but it's clear to me that this would definitely be a factory to buy from up the ones we've visited. from the institute of public and environmental affairs module. thank you ladies and gentlemen i'm truly honored and humbled to be the first chinese citizen to receive the scole award was thank i set up this institute of public on your bar medal affairs or i p and our first project is to to butte

a national water pollution database. though this records comes from the government sources the public can access the information by click on the locations on the map because people want to know you know who should be held responsible for such a bet what a pollution situation and so far we got some more than one hundred and ten thousand records of violations in our database. april two thousand and ten we file letters to twenty nine by t. friends who check with them whether those polluting factories whether they are their suppliers. all of them responded to except of one that is an apple. apple just give us one statement that is we have

a long term policy not to disclose our supply chain. to. my junior contacted me and we began to work together to apply additional pressure to a company with headquarters here in the united states mind you and singled out a number of facilities that he believed were in apple such that it had a very heavy environmental impact in their locality and when he level of those charges apple was shot and is sort of in denial that this type of problem to this extent could really exist in their supply chain. i think it's important to understand that this is not just about apple you know this is about the id industry. they all share printed circuit board

manufacturers they all share chip manufacturer is you know despite their audit protocols there is a lot more talk than walk on environmental impacts in the supply chain you say to yourself how could they not know about any of these problems but you know it's it's always you ask and it's all you look for so if you are there and you have a checklist of what you mean then you need it now and that checklist does not include what's going on at the end of the pipe of your wastewater treatment plant it's actually conceivable that you know exactly where it's being made you just don't know exactly how it's being made and what the impact is. that's what's going on not just with apple but with all of these companies. forty years of operating the environmental protection agency in this country these are american based companies hard to believe. we still have this industry which is discharging so much

waste not just normal waste hazardous waste. in just one supplier generate more than one hundred thousand tons of hazard of waste in one year. how could we dispose stuff you know in a safe way so how much a time bomb this industry's gonna create. in electronics at this moment of time i believe we're in the dinosaur age. or using too many resources too many role materials and the life of the computer is a typical three to four years.

for a small company in r. and. a mission is to produce a fair trade computer. in the early days i repaired this component levels on the computers on the one of course. i noticed that there was huge amount of waste in the computer industry. so we started designing and building up data cravin reuse with computers. this is my father's environmental drill nomex wristy just. how could you build a computer would have to stick how could you build a computer without lead mercury p.v.c.'s brominated flame returns and all the other heavy metals that was our gold.

the material we use is wood so it's technology of a hundred years ago but it's perfectly good our computers will last seven to ten years because home users non-technical people can repair and replace i'm never placed in the memory. you can extend the life of it by upgrade ability. today is is there a major launch in europe. we've lots of invites sent out to people. we were awarded the world's first european. for integration desktop computers it was the world's first ever achieve some wart. time i thought wow the gates.

are just so flooded in for us that was not the case maybe a little bit of naive essay on my part it's hard out there like government agencies some people like that there is no room for environment so they are totally just bottom line. i'm looking at it now it's one little step at a time but what we need to do is it work harder build more computers. get people to join us. and the. americans toss out a lot of gadgets every day. if we look at the three million or so tons of electronic waste that gets generated the united states every year probably fifteen percent of that gets recycled. some percent of that gets recycled into responsible for action.

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now. heisley you so mail. we think ok we'll send are you waste of china let them burn it let them have the pollution but we have to remember that air pollution travels around the globe. that pollution is getting lost into the atmosphere and coming right back to us. metals a metal is a metal you know and it's there's no other form. for it to convert to you can convert it from being in the soil to being in the water to being in the air but you still have a metal. in our work we fly through clouds and we sample the cloud droplets and we measure the chemistry of each one very fast as you're flying through a cloud. there flashing as fast as you can imagine on a screen and we collect all that information and what we get is what's

a chemical fingerprint. in california with getting rid of lead in gasoline we've reduced the amount of lead we have and so when lead shows up that is one of the tracers that we say this could be from elsewhere and we can trace it back in time and say you know four days ago this air was over asia. when you have more pollution and you have more aerosols those go into the cloud and so you have so many they can't get big enough to fall and lead to rain. and it's giving you these extremes of either not enough water in some places and way too much water in other places. what happens if we push it too far. we'll start to see more of these extreme events things like flooding and hurricanes. these are what people often refer to as tipping

points and not so that's what we're very concerned about happening. my attachment to my devices is more complicated now. it's hard to get excited about the next new model or a great knowing what they really cost to make. the industry in it's constant search for cheaper workers and land is moving on to new countries and few government safeguards or inspections. we all have to share in this problem. but we can use our voices and our buying power to demand real labor safety and greater environmental protections. the digital revolution has improved our lives in so many ways. we need to make sure

it doesn't rob us of our health and our planet. hello there we're still seeing that severe weather over parts of south america the satellite picture is showing where the bright white areas of cloud out there over parts of parable i had over the northern parts of argentina impera why we've been seeing as much as seventy five millimeters of rain which is a decent amount of wet weather from one of these storms and in the northern parts of argentina we've seen nearly one hundred fifty millimeters of wet weather so

fairly even more there i think we'll see plenty more of those storms as we head through the day on monday but on shoes they they should ease a fraction still want to turn out to. the rather pokey but the should be less of them towards the south is more we look brighter for here but as always it won't be warm though a top temperature just of eighteen degrees for the central america's here is a good deal of cloud particularly in the northwest the showers really have balloons just over the past few hours more cloud is expected here as we head through the day on monday a few very sharp showers and then the whole system works its way southward so a broad today force here as we head through tuesday elsewhere just lots of cloud really and quite a few showers around for many of us but also america we've been watching one system move away from the east coast and things there are coming down but the next one is already forming and this one has already given us a few tornadoes and there's likely to be more severe weather during the day on monday. the weather sponsored by category is. to just

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donald trump announces new tariffs on chinese goods but beijing still plans to take part in talks to resolve the trade dispute. showdown between the u.s. attorney general and democrats on the lease of the fall special council report on the russian meddling. by the verses important issue will be we. are destroying our warning that millions of species are at risk of extinction which could lead to serious consequences for humankind. and in sports the denver nuggets hit back in the n.b.a. playoffs the nuggets level the western conference semifinals by having cole in their first home defeat of the postseason. ceasefire between israel and palestinian groups appears to be holding after days of cross border as strikes and rocket attacks so far there have been no reports of any

violations since the cease fire came into force carter and egypt brokered the deal after hours of mediation twenty four palestinians were killed in the gaza strip four israelis have died in southern israel during the violence of the past few days before so it has more from west jerusalem. monday in gaza and after two days of intense fighting calm for now. restored. the funerals of those killed on sunday began among the dead. and according to gaza's health ministry a four month old baby a twelve year old boy and a pregnant woman was. in a palestinian resistance and islamic jihad can confirm that at about four thirty in the morning a cease fire had been reached and a militant groups conditions emphasize that israel stop all forms of aggression on

our people and begin directly implementing the understanding and breaking just siege on our people. was israel says it strikes targeted leaders and terror operatives one of them a member who israel says was in charge of money transfers from iran to fighting groups inside gaza killed in as strike on his car. in the israeli city of ashdod part of the of an intense sunday evening dozens of rockets fired from gaza and southern israel one israeli civilian was killed here as he ran for a bomb shelter because if you look at just really good to see i think that a cease fire at this moment is a terrible mistake i think that when we have the upper hand we need once and for all finish the terror because this will repeat itself and will not stop. israel has maintained its policy of not announcing any ceasefire but the lifting of restrictions including reopening schools in southern israel was its way of confirming that this round of fighting is over. it was though the most intense and

deadly escalation in months of stop start violence israel struck more than three hundred fifty targets in gaza killing more than twenty dollars to needs. from us an islamic jihad fired nearly seven hundred rockets according to the israeli military and killed four israelis. in a statement on monday israel's prime minister said the military had hit hamas and islamic jihad with great force but that the campaign to ensure calm and security for southern israel had not ended. gars officials say one hundred thirty homes were destroyed in the israeli bombardment and seven hundred damaged hamas has been demanding israel follow through on what it says are outstanding commitments to ease restrictions and facilitate money transfers from qatar made after the previous round of violence in april. israel and hamas have again stepped back from a full escalation towards war the mediation of the united nations and the egyptians has again been crucial but again the issues that have been driving these repeated

outbreaks of violence remain unresolved and so the question again is how long this period of calm can last for said al-jazeera west jerusalem. on attacks your claim joins us now live near the israel gaza border is it still a case of so far so good. it's hard to know but clearly there is a pattern that's been established c.m.e. this is yet another cycle and what we've seen over the last several years where there is an escalation of violence between hamas and israel egypt swoops in mediates a cease fire and there is what's been described as a return to calm and then the cycle begins anew although this was the deadliest skirmish between the two sides since the gaza war in two thousand and fourteen bear in mind that in april that was the last time there was a bout of violence between the two sides we've been speaking to palestinians in

gaza today one man returned to the rubble of his home he said he had minutes to get out he received a call saying that his home would be destroyed and he says i don't know what i'm going to do the apartment was all i have i don't know where i'm going to go and what is next other palestinian man says that he feels that israel is not distinguishing between civilians and fighters and that they are quote killing palestinians indiscriminately hamas and israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu have toned down the rhetoric albeit just a bit a hamas spokesman says that we will continue the resistance until we gain our rights netanyahu released a statement saying that the campaign is not over that the they're preparing for renewed violence the opposition is of course very dissatisfied with this cease fire they are categorizing it as yet another capitulation to hamas benny gantz who was

vying for prime minister against netanyahu last month has said that we should continue quote with uncompromising force against hamas and all this cease fire has done is lead us down a path toward the next escalation. and leave it there for now thanks so much the same. well for more on this let's talk to i mean oren he's a defense and government analyst and joins us now from tel aviv good to have you with us do you think the ceasefire is going to hold so. thank you. yes for the foreseeable future which is not so for see if you can see i had four hours days perhaps not even weeks but yes the convergence of interests between israel and hamas will probably hold a cease fire for a while but the reason a wild card which has not been mentioned prominently in this is palestinian islamic jihad this group which is more extreme than hamas is and has

neither all thore the no responsibility for what is happening in gaza started it all he can issue ated the incidents friday night israel responded and then palestinian islamic jihad and hamas are cooperated against israel and now that. apparently this round because over everyone is looking around and asking you what is it all about. doing that you. might fall into that narrative when you say they started it all and israel simply responded doesn't that really fail to take into consideration one keyword here occupation and another one see as long as you have human beings in the twenty first century millions of them living under occupation in siege can you really expect to have peace and security for anyone in that area. well let's for the sake of this conversation try to

isolate the historical proportions of the conflict and concentrate on what has been heavenly that's. the reality and it's not history people are living under occupation and see perhaps some would say isn't that why you're not getting an accurate picture of what's going on well sami you say you and i'm not here to explain or market beads really narrative i'm trying to relate the facts on the ground and be so happened that hamas and israel had quite an effective modus vivendi until friday night when a jihad sniper shot out of the crowd and wounded two israeli soldiers now perhaps israel could have contained it and nothing would have come out of this incident but

the fact is that israel decided to respond quite aggressively and. you're a correspondent said another cycle of violence and the question is where do we go from here and seems to see it for what it hasn't got it going on so if you want to go out all eyes the facts on the ground is the fact not on the ground that as long as you have millions of people did you not think that is siege and not you patient should and that is very much part of the facts on the ground that is driving people to the circle of violence. well perhaps so you also have of course the palestinian authority in the west bank which has another policy they think that a better way to resist occupation is to strive for political recognition and legitimacy via international fora and other means and yet there's the again we are not here rex ryan at all do you recognise that in that you know what the un

says i'm reading here un yes they are even for a b. twenty eight after two thousand and nineteen condemning abuses of international humanitarian law in the context of the occupied palestinian territories and the large scale protests of gaza there are. there is an abusive occupation and siege according to the un going on of gaza do you recognise that or is the un wrong. sammy i've had them used to guard the notion that you want me as an analyst to notice a spokesperson for the israeli government. or a supporter of its policy this is beside the point ok now the israeli government's not only be particular netanyahu government should have strived for a political solution based on united nations security council resolution two for two or the arab initiative of two thousand and two unfortunately netanyahu has

not chosen the stretch however if you try to narrow down what we are now a sect inc to only friday saturday sunday monday this is a not that another matter and again here we are so much blood and treasure has been spilled cannot avail thank you very much for your analysis and thoughts on that. let's go live now to our man in jordan and bring in maureen rabbani he's a senior fellow at the institute for palestine studies let me start off while seeking you the same first question do you think this cease fire is going to hold. probably not i think what clearly happened here is israel felt compelled to achieve a cease fire because of calming national and international events in which.