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it's in brussels or more streets and don't want us to spend money and in our economy to grow this is mainly what was the league and the 5 star movement are saying stephanie before we spoke about you know potential of russian links with the leg steve bannon as well transformer chief strategist has made no secret that he wants to support us some vini lead the union does that have an impact in a country like italy. well you know as an impact. not so much because of benon which is not very known among the people ordinary people in italy but it did have an impact on salvini i think because as we revealed in the book the 1st meeting between salvini and ben and took place on april 2016 in washington d.c. when when ben and explicitly. suggests that we need to attack
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pope francis and in fact this is what happened right after would still be tweeting against the pope for the migrant issue. and. wearing for example a t. shirt during the latest rally of benedict so the pope francis' predecessor. this led to an alliance according to what we what we what we could reveal between ben and part of the u.s. and also with parts of the cardinals that are we've been devoted to can and pose but francis and his politics. and of your fantasy here in the studio steve benen has always said you know he wants the end of mainstream politics to change the system just regarding him or really the demise perhaps certainly the change of mainstream politics. first to you how well i mean
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is that what we're seeing across europe do you think well i think it we're seeing a new version of politics not the end of politics as we know it but it is a new version and we have to understand how that operates and populist parties are very good at dream bending themselves capturing the spirit of the times so to speak whereas more mainstream parties are more rigid in their structures and the way that they approach people so i think there needs to be a different tactic that mainstream parties can. follow in order to be able to to to counter the surge but it's interesting that you mention steve bannon because what effectively that kind of support manages to do is to organize the right wing populist parties better and provide the external support that there's no visibility and so on so there is a different way of doing things in politics which seems to be a little bit more under the table rather than more transparent and it's interesting
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because right wing parties have the capacity to mobilize support there's mainstream parties don't have that capacity and it's precisely those active messages that steve bannon used to bring come forward that have an additional effect in the european context and only mention that the rigidity of some parties and how it could be working against them in the conservative party might be a case in point to seeing the various fringes it's just very difficult to contain it in one party is that when we think of changes to mainstream politics perhaps the end of the big umbrella party and more smaller coalition got governance well maybe i think we need to just be a bit cautious here because ultimately in countries like this or in france or in germany you have a populist challenge but they're not about to take over the government i mean the mainstream party you know the leader of the european peoples party is going to get as many votes as last time but still looks like being the largest party in the european parliament so it's worth putting in context but yes there is an organizational challenge here in this country partly because the 2 big parties are
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so intimately divided about brics it that they can barely bring themselves to come up with a position which is very very true of the labor party but also if we look at the new brics it policy that nodule ferocious law launched he's chief executive and leader they have the ability to do and say whatever they want on his whim and that gives them an agility that the longer established parties are finding it very very hard to deal with and just a final question to all of you and then perhaps starting with you what do you think the e.u. has failed in the past few years because obviously we're. seeing the surge it's obvious that the institution isn't responding or isn't connecting with the citizens what do you think it's failed well i think one of the things the evils always failed to do i don't think this is new is to attract loyalty and sort of animate its public to come out some votes in large numbers at these elections turnout is always low in european parliament elections and one of the problems of the house is when it comes to the connection between itself and its citizens and that's still rather weak i would say their funds well i think there are 2 issues there one is
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the issue of identity so the youth has failed to create a more european identity across all 28 member states and this is the result here that we've seen with the distance that people feel from from europe and the other thing is transnational solidarity the fact that it hasn't been able to find the mechanisms to respond to problems that are happening in different parts of the you with the appropriate means and stephon of edge and very briefly where do you think the u.s. failed. i think mainly on on coping with the economic crisis that started in 2008 saying this at least only tell you inside the feeling among ordinary people is that the european union was not able to help italy and other countries such as greece oh during the economic crisis and this is also a reason why also within lay god there are people saying we should leave the euro zone and go back to our old currency in order to be able to boost the economy
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6 people were killed and hundreds injured in indonesia during protests against the results of last month's election. i'm richelle carey this is al jazeera live from doha also coming up in the u.s. acting secretary defense says washington does not want a war with iran and defends a military buildup in the gulf. some nations are you willing this blood because the united nations should go and then. a warning from the u.n. envoy for libya the oil rich nation is on the verge of a civil war that could destabilize the region. does anyone here think the women in this country was the size of all our rights are being taken away from oz. marching
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for their right to choose rallies were held across the u.s. to protest against recent state laws restricting abortion. parts of indonesian capital are on lockdown after a night of violent protests. 6 people have been killed hundreds injured or testers are angry at the results of last month's presidential election this is the saying right now in jakarta on tuesday the election commission declared incumbent djoko we don't know the winner giving him a 2nd term in office indonesia's security minister says they will partially block social media to avoid spread of rumors over night demonstrators said buildings on fire and through fireworks at police has more from jakarta. where are the protests on brown's day out been largely peaceful clashes overnight are started with a couple of 100 protesters near the office and the election supervisory board
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madding crowd has slowly started to swell car but it's been largely protesters have not tried to breach the police barriers can see behind me out of a barricade made up of razor wire preventing access to this road was protesters had mainly been chanting down with the hurried to the singing listening to speeches given by them and now are over who ran against president jacoby in the presidential election was urged to supporters to come out to the streets in a show of god now these protests are expected to continue until at least friday which is when problems can are expected to darling i'm like what the constitution for the disputed election results was cantona just that right spread cheated and regularities during the polling was a protest sign it's worth noting though that's not true political parties that are
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part of the old coalition that actually come out to say that they accept the election outcome and under the job one of those parties and even congratulated president obama redondo on his victory some analysts are also going to doubt that the fact that the rest and djoko we won by 11 percentage points which roughly translates to 17000000 votes really in a way undermines the opposition's claim that there has been widespread electoral fraud and most most recently on monday the election supervisor a body dismissed claims of systematic cheating citing a lack of evidence greg fealy is an indonesian politics specialist at australian national university joins us via skype from congress thank you very much was there any indication that there would be this type of response to the election results. not some violence that would lead to the deaths of 6 people and quite extensive
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destruction of property and a great deal of disruption to loss in what he's the very center of jakarta and you see by the leisure clearly the government was fearful that this could turn violent and that's why they're being taking a great range of measures amongst other things that mobilize some 30000 personnel. and indeed you have to say there were probably more security personnel than there were protesters but all the violence that happened very light last night and early into this morning in fact seems to be now on the taken by just a strange part of the mining crowd that are turning out to protest the decision but nonetheless this is protested doesn't appear to have much public support at all and certainly the great majority of the political plight is the party leading political scene is the need to nature except election commission revolve around results so
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this looks very much like people's lives have been taken in by so you're saying that the big political players basically accept the results so what convey do to to to tamp this down to try to get a hold on this. well already to die we've already had over the last week or so oh say you know muslim leaders for example most of the protestors have come from very strongly islamised groups that is in the community and we're seeing muslim leaders from all moderate organizations of dealings with. urging their supporters not to take to the streets and i think most people in heeded that. this was a protest in the thousands not in the 10s of thousands or hundreds of thousands which we sometimes see on jakarta streets so it's relatively small but it's been the most bar and demonstration we've seen since late 2006 that any so what does this say about where is this anger coming from i realize you're saying it's from
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a majority of it where is that anger coming from from a minority party. yes so this really several factors at work here the 1st is the the white hot anger it's the failed presidential candidate probably also beyond so it feels about this election result. most people think that he's being delusional about this the evidence of whole cyle fraud in the election is a natural fact completely inadequate most observers believe this was a very unfair election yes there were some acts of melamine the stray chanson mistakes made in counting in the life but nothing would be sensitive enough to overturn the outcome of the election he has systematically provoked the crowd as your reporter said before he's called the people calories or to the people who take the streets he is self however did not choose to take to the streets yesterday so other people have become the victims and he's ranting up in the
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situation such as one part of it the other part of it that he says farmers groups which tend to see the state as hostile to islam they detest president juco way and they are often looking for up to. indies allow him to monitor lies against team and against the government that he literally since. those factors have come together in this particular set of circumstances in the last 24 hours a great feeling appreciate your expertise on this thank you. thank you. the acting u.s. offensive terry is downplaying the possibility of a u.s. war with iran atic shanahan says the deployment of additional troops to the gulf will limit terrence ability to attack he made the comments after briefing congress mike hanna reports washington. congress has been demanding more information for weeks and finally it was provided by the members of the trumpet ministration secretary of state mike pump aoe in the acting secretary of defense patrick
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shanahan held separate reefing sessions from both the house and the senate. patrick shanahan arguing that the recent deployment to carry a strike force to the region has played a role in controlling the crisis we have to turn attacks based on our repository of assets to turn attacks against american forces. our biggest focus at this point is to prevent iranian miscalculation. we do not want the situation to escalate. this is about deterrence not about war. or not about going to war we're ready to respond if we have to the best thing to happen is for everybody to calm down and iran to back off and i'm hoping that this show of force will result in deescalating not escalate nobody's talking about a military solution to the current friction with the iranians i haven't heard
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anybody discuss that are you thank you all very much but the briefing still did not convince skeptical democrats make no mistake this president has a bit strange itching for a confrontation with iran i believe that a war with iran would be. an absolute disaster for wars then the war with iraq and i hope the american people told this is an illustration that we will not go to war in iraq underlying this crisis a decision by a president donald trump to unilaterally pull out of the 2050 nuclear deal with iran and as the briefings were taking place iran was announcing it had quadrupled its production of enriched uranium this argue many democrats a consequence of a president rejecting a negotiated deal with no thought as to what should replace it my kind of.
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washington britain's opposition labor party says the prime minister should not bother putting her new proxy plan to a 4th vote in parliament tracey may as offering in peace a chance to vote on whether to hold the 2nd box at referendum she set out her latest plan for britain's departure from the e.u. telling politicians they have one last chance to deliver bracks it pays them already rejected our plan 3 times i've also listened carefully to those who've been arguing for a 2nd referendum i've made my own view on this clear on many many times i do not believe this is a route that we should take because i think we should be implementing the result of the 1st referendum not asking the british people to vote in a 2nd one.

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