tv NEWS LIVE - 30 Al Jazeera June 3, 2019 2:00pm-2:34pm +03
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as of dialogue that hasn't been active at least for a week or so now. well out to the room it's like why is our receptors asking when it's all there is and how it dynamics within our set and the army for them to sort that out and to see who is the person or who is the entity that it's going to take this process all worked. are now. literally it's like it's parachuting into this process to them see brand is that went to space where they can extract wool and the. child soldiers to them it's a it's a business. allow artists to take that's hostage not wait i think the next confrontation it's going to be between ourselves and the army now. this is where as a thank you very much indeed talking to us live from washington d.c. thank you so much we are looking at pictures now where we can see people clearly
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injured difficult to say how seriously but we know that the doctors association has reported alarmingly an increasing number of people having been wounded and now at least 2 dead but we're getting we can expect that number to rise let's speak now to mohammed munir who's a protest say he's there in khartoum mohammed thank you for joining us thank you for talking to us tell us what you've been seeing over the last couple of hours. thank you for having me well so far in the last hours it was a normal morning like every day and i got a phone basically all the life when on all those media about 5 o'clock about a high high number of military or at that time it was unclear what we're trying to break the whole setting and they were talking from the bridge side and they were calling for everyone to go there as i personally you know got on my bike head to
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that direction when i was getting married everyone was running out and now they told me everyone's like get out of there shooting was everywhere and they were picking up people off the street and they were shooting at everyone randomly and that's from what i was told i tried to enter the setting from different roads but they all blocked and the people who were basically backing up and were running for their lives so it was a high anger right now on the streets that even you can hear and the people of a city block cutting the city down setting it down blocking all the votes at the moment. so how does that square that situation the demonstration had called his if you like that was outside of the ministry of defense has that been clear head or does that still the people still remain. so far all the news that we're getting that has been cleared i personally. earth time of the night in a week and i was not there. so i have friends in there that i got called before i
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was heading there and they told me to come soon as i was almost there on the way there i got a phone call that it was really bad there's almost no one there. were being set on fire and the people were hiding out in the neighborhoods in the houses basically afraid for their lives you don't know what can happen. i tried to enter any direction but so far the news that we're getting no one is there. but the protest is then has dispatched to all the poles of the city is that right. yes they're out in the streets right now in different parts of the city more people call today neighborhoods and they're blocking the road starting to protest kind of like the old days back in january. right to left is a new phase and then to the revolution that you say. i just you know we've been kind of course in place right from what was happening with
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the with the military on what did they will come up with and you know a lot of people said that it was a feeling like they had something under his lead they had built planning on something and now has definitely did not expect that it's likely today are from are are they of the the last day of ramadan people are starting to celebrate people out shopping and so on that was the perfect their get for them to find less people after 30 but then they got back and try to break the vetting of so henschel faces then in the transitional military council and indeed the negotiation process as you know faith been broken completely. definitely we believe my we are we will come back we come back to the battle being honest as the war we went on we dumped or. you know acted moment they can play their part nature doesn't go over but are we going to come back to people their spirit is long and we come to court to give up but now that the the main sticking in that symbolic the symbol of your revolution
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if you like now that's being cleared how damaging is that to your movement for change and i think i think the trick really damaging on that because it took so long to build it and to get to that point even took months of our free even deciding to get there but act seriously we have been experiencing so far with the sudanese people every time with our people or a every time they try to. force the towers to overthrow it's been right there you know most of us we always i back article a lot of the people were starting to divide because of the different political view right now but i think this will unite the people are in all different types of backgrounds or whatever political view our political party belongs to it's all back to back to all of the people against this medicare and their fact 0 so i want to
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negotiate we want them out and so do you feel sense then that the the revolution we full say is the the protest the protest is has been revived if you like how do you feel that their enthusiasm for the protest is flagging. i think of course we're really sad what happened to a lot of people are a close friend of mine that. is actually only 18 years old i've gotten a hand i don't really know the condition of in hope he's ok i know that he's been transferred to the hospital and it's a really really sad moment and this is i'm not going to face a setback but it's really god would never wish put it to happen but it's a revive we're coming back and we're going to come back stronger than we were right and what are you hearing then about these other members to these professionals a sensation has also made a call for other people to come to join the protest movement in central call change
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what do you hearing about that. so far i mean it's a lot of news as being going on in the last days right now honestly i didn't even know where more connect. i have to you can restrict it was the media everyone is on the street right now everyone is in their own neighborhood and protesting we have to mean right here completely blocked no traffic no cars out and honestly that's what's happening right now people are back to back to 0 i really don't know what is actually happening on top of whatever. but at the moment people are just angry and they're just angry with the block that. that's all so it's interesting you know saying now that many people are saying in their own neighborhoods and we've seen we saw earlier new barricades apparently being put up. would you say then the protest is now spreading outside to central call chain and across the city. yes that's
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exactly what's happening almost every part i'm sure the whole country but i create art almost everywhere tears because driving right back from getting out of the white out of the city everything was blocked i came to my neighborhood in right now we are blocking the road my hands dirty where are we on the street where burning tires i mean there's people i think there are you know the tractor trucks and you know if you train or so. that's all that's happening at the moment so what was the objectives then expressing your anger i get that. by building barricades and betting cars what's the objective then of of barack setting up these barricades and by blocks across the city he want to stop all comis you want to some old transport . one where one of the main reasons i think is the. well known who has been saying that these activities of blocking the road and build are where of course. and you know we were not accepted and you know this is against the law
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so i think this is one of the 1st things as him today is personal military or is person a little army is low militia has attacked the people feel the role and injured many this is 1st of all the 1st way to say like we're not scared of you this is how we're going to do it our way i don't care what you say we're not scared of you and in a day at the same time a lot of people are not aware of what's happening in the city a lot of people are about their jobs they're about their normal lives they're trying to go shopping and things as normal and they don't feel that what's happening in the country is actually something that can affect them personally is like that's not really my problem but these barricades and setting the city kind of forces them to stop and think and talk to the people like why are you doing this and a lot of people out here reality is right i think a people where them of what is happening and why these things have to happen and that's most likely at the moment expressing anger by doing this is just in direct
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words to him we see that we have nothing for you we're not scared of you and i'm going into today you've got a fault too i don't care what you need kind of horse you have these guys out here right now you can use that it's all about you know we have nothing we're not scared we're here we're going to bring the rights of those who died or we will die just like them. right thank you very much indeed for talking to us and giving us the very latest from your part from your neighborhood of khartoum telling us that the protests are spreading away from the center away from the square outside army headquarters to other parts of sudan's capital city if you're just joining us let us bring you right up to date with the news that we've been covering for the last couple of hours security forces in the city's capital of breaking up the main protest camp in the heart of the city outside the ministry of
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defense troops entered the area where crowds had been gathering outside military headquarters it started around 90 minutes ago in the early hours of the morning cartoon time since then the protests have started to spread to other parts of the city with this is a speaking of the soldiers having been heavily armed and of using live fire until i guess the committee of sudanese doctors says at least 2 people have been killed many others have been critically injured and the main protest group the professionals association says the ruling military council will be held accountable for any bloodshed they are calling for people to march to the city center in support and to overthrow the military council but have it i mean is a journalist who has been one of the protesters at the scene we spoke to him earlier as the crackdown began to unfold and we can talk to him again live from
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khartoum mohammed thanks for joining us again what are your laces observations what have you seen since we last spoke to you. yes in the. last couple of hours. supporter who is police forces or supported these men actually using the uniforms of the police because they may not be able to call them some sources from the police itself but in the last 2 hours and they are attacking the. protesters. still these attacks are still ongoing. medical field clinics and now the danger is inside no one can and can conceive country today and that is inside. the situation inside from the. protesters who are inside the square. is really miserable the people from what i.
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can see the people fleeing from their outside the square now some neighborhoods. and you have. to demonstrate some of them. worry every area try to join be able to stand in the square but they have. forces actually make them around the city in the square and prevented anyone from from entering there. and even. the news from inside the square is a. difficult situation. people are still seen outside the place can you still hear gunfire. gunfire around actually. from everywhere around from miles read
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it to the. universities it's like in the area of train kilometers you can hear the gunfire from everywhere around and even some of it comes from inside the military which you itself but you cannot you cannot compare what exactly happened. so as far as your understanding is has the main city the area has that been cleared of demonstrate is very calm again has the main square where the sit in was outside military headquarters has that been cleared. out is that just sounds not 3 years ok not serious or all right now i'm just wondering about the status of the square outside the army h.q.
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where this crackdown began has it been cleared of protests as all the have the sit in the people taking part in the city and have they moved on. yes actually actually if you start from. 4 am. local time they close all the in turn. like entrances into the game because. the. it's made by the testers to protect. the broken it use in using big. use in the military. because the intel inside. the city is. using the sound. to be using the sound bombs and the tear gas. and gradually and use in. the live bullets in the air at the far east and then.
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and then shoot the people. to control all the all this we have some buckets. still resisting but i can see. now the now the militia and the militia is in. control of the. of the square and what does this mean for the revolution and what does this mean for this protest movement that is being sustained now. yes actually it is very short of the people. the people are frustrated and angles what. now the negotiation is. really. for the peaceful solutions because it's you that is really being killed by the by this is but by this move me. the it
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is also it's clear the people to protest in the neighborhoods and the cities but such services isn't this be a. clear that. the people will disappear and can begin down the the military council itself so that means. the peace with the foresight has already. now beyond its full 2 years and now we. are going for over 6 years in and mohamed we're hearing reports being. security forces closing all streets around the city witnesses having reported that the security forces about closing off trees can you tell us any more about that from where you are. yes know
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that people from some never vote outside. in the square from the city from breed area which would become will become well known as flash point during the 4 months but the people. don't appreciate them so i actually like. reason of people come out from the area because it's close to the city and tried to join in the square of the city in there but they. said they called on the area prevented them from going there i'm actually. use the teargas and the sticks to detest them another purpose also try to come from jeparit area which is in the southern part of the uk to litigate for like 20 kilometers from the city and it's good also to join the joint decision but they also feel but now the people that now they are protesting in the area now there are a lot of this in the areas in the room and in some areas in on them on. the things
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they feel up to my main body. protested in the neighborhood that. again is the movement of the t.m.c. the military is basically prevented people from converging on the center of khartoum and people instead of staying in their own neighborhoods and carrying out their protests locally exactly right so gunfire and violence i mean these are the important things as to the ever well being of of the protesters what shall i understanding as to how many people how many casualties whether the that violence is still ongoing. actually no confirmation from inside the square about the number of personalities. because even the medical sources which we have to inside the square. actually
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the. they cannot determine they cannot cannot. count on the number but what they did say that they control. people injured and. they cannot account even the number of the number so that is. serious cases. being referred to the hospitals around because of suspicion in the clinics. and some of the clinics even in the field clinics and been by the force. and what you say is that the people of sudan and the protest is in the protest movement generally would you say that it's being. revived would you say that is. stimulated by the action of the military. to revive the.
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spirit of the what was happening because you know the hopes of the of the people who are high. in min and in agreement will be used by the by the opposition and the t.m.c. and. the power be transferred to. to the civilians or to civilians government. to nothing and all the all the people now blaming the limb in the d.m.c. and more specifically the militias of the arab support forces led by the beauty chairman of the t.m.c. . that the little nickname committee sponsible for the. most of the people calling now in the i mean in the neighborhood. the process is of
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a process in the neighborhood where chanting like it is the mc and again it's a slow dance calling for realty. commit. right mohamed i mean journalist and protestor thank you so much for giving us that really comprehensive account of developments in the car to this morning thank you very much indeed and of course if you are just joining us here at out jazeera we've been covering this situation in sudan for the last couple of hours because security forces started to break up the protest camp in the center of the capital khartoum troops entered the area where the crowds had been gathering outside the army headquarters and it started around about 2 hours ago and ever since then the protests have now begun to spread to other parts of the city this is speak of the soldiers having been heavily armed and of using live fire and tear gas and the
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commissioner says in these doctors is reported at least 2 people having been killed others many of them others have been injured many of them critically no figures on that but no doubt we'll get more information throughout the day and meanwhile the s.p. a the main organizers of the protests if you like the professionals association it's reporting that the ruling military council will be held accountable for any bloodshed and is calling for people to march to the city center into support to support the protests and to overthrow the military council. well one protests in the sudanese capital has made a personal appeal to the security forces to protect the protest says i'm not going to harm a shot i will rally for the military to fire live round bullets on the protesters and on our nation and you stand and watch this is the scene i can't even describe
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our people came to the square for a sit in because this is our country and it's cowardly for you to watch this happening and do nothing we're calling on the security forces to move without instruction from their seniors do something about this to protect this nation to protect our people we will not go back we will not give up i don't think that this peaceful sit in isn't protected the nation stands with us we will not leave our beloved country to be run by corrupt people this is our country and we will have a democratic future do not give up or lose hope the military had a history of protecting the sudanese people don't let us down. right. let's have a look now at some of the main players in this political struggle the transitional military council the t m c has been governing the country since the ousting of former president omar al bashir in april it's been negotiating with the declaration
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of freedom and change forces that's a coalition that's made up of opposition parties and civil society groups and among their misson sudanese professionals association which has been a leading voice in the protest movement there's also the party headed by the former prime minister. mark de the sudan congress party is also in the coalition along with the influential communist party there's a 2nd block of 80 political parties called the national dialogue initiative they're seen as being allies of bashir and they've been rejected by the protesters right we can speak to. who is the representative of the sudanese professors association in london she's joining us on the phone thank you very much indeed for talking to us 1st of all give us your. assessment of what was going on in the last
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couple of hours in sudan. what's happening at the moment is another massacre in the city and in front of the army headquarters very concerned about the safety of the civilians we are aware at the moment that even doctors in the clinics are being set out. we there are a 100 casualties. you know unfortunately we have lost lives at the moment about 2 to 3 fourths of the. shooting to kill you know our civilians and that's not acceptable right now why do you think the our s s are there the rapid support for physical. units of the military why do you think it's decided to act today they have been
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acting like this is governor look a job is more sort of i would say events shooting sort of my abilities and a mission as you may be aware. on the 30th of may there was another massacre. there is a trial to try to you know sort of demolish the city and try to. stop people from continuous sitting but. it is very bloody it is a crime that they've got national community must be stunned and call them what's been happening. pollution will continue and people are moving towards the city at the moment but to my knowledge boom. we feel strongly that what has been happening is a true massacre. where we understand from the sudan doctors committee that 2
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people have died but they are talking of many having been injured or many of those injuries are critical that's what the central committee of sudan doctors is reporting so it doesn't sound as though it's been a massacre as yet well even the injuries the massacre and even the blood disorders even we don't want to lose more would like. people to lose their life and least tragedy some of them of them fatal. that has been called for blood. so far as even the idea of shooting an unarmed civilian by like a militia was there sitting there practicing their rights in itself we consider that a massacre why do you think the. the military has changed the tone so significantly. it has not changed is still it's just becoming frustrated
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that the people who are going. to ask for the legitimate request that people will not accept. relation will not accept the military transition council will look at sept p.d. are led by the military. these requests are legitimate and people continue and therefore they are going back to violence this is the same duty in the state that you continue to practice the same violations against the people of sudan and does this mean do you feel that you've been betrayed by the military particularly those who were part of the transitional military council who were part of the dialogue part of the negotiations. they are accountable for what happened and they must stand up in front of the people of sudan and. take.
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this they should protect the people they claimed when they came on the 1112 of april they were there to respond to the people of sudan and to contact the people of sudan what has been happening so far is actually opposite to this actually very clear that they were not genuine in what they've been saying do you think do you have any confidence that the dialogue can be resumed and that there can be a settlement that will satisfy the protest movement. we are very concerned about those who are injured because we will look you know we have lost we will have to go back and review the situation we follow what the people of sudan will say. and i think at this moment at this stage now it is very difficult collect such a comment right ok we're looking at pictures at the moment of casualties and
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appeals appears to be a hospital not sure if it's one of the field hospitals but we're also getting miles we're getting news the 2 hospitals at least have been surrounded by the military what's your information as to how casualties are being dealt with and whether they're getting access to the kind of treatment that they need. there are some clinics of the surrounding. some. hospitals would be treated at the moment all doctors and medical staff being called to come and help. save hundreds of people who are injured serious injuries we are very very worried and very concerned to be honest with you i came live at the moment just to say back to the national community. we are facing violation for our for our region with request.
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protesters have been killed. by the r.s.s. therefore we are calling for a report from the international community. and i mean have you been disappointed so far by the response of the international community there are obviously certain countries who've offered outright in public support for the military. so far i think we have managed to. hear that it was. a human to people expected to run uprising and we are calling for those who believe in freedom peace and justice to be supporting the people of sudan. are supporting the t.n.c. i think it's very clear for them now that this is. a council that who
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by blood and by force. them to. their support to the t.n.c. . thank you very much indeed for talking to us from the from london she's a member and a representative of the professional's association we're going to leave sorry for now because we're going to now talk to ahmed who is in khartoum he is a protester he is at. the hospital now that's one of the 2 major hospitals that we understand of been surrounded by the police and the military and tell us thank you 1st will thank you for talking to us but tell us what you can see and what the situation is. b the spark. and.
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