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the us nuts from congressman jim mcgovern and he's a democratic congressman of massachusetts he's also chairman of the house rules committee very powerful body he says millions of citizens of sudan have risked their lives in peaceful protests to create a better future for their people their country and their children the military council must immediately stop any and all threats against civilian protesters and leaders and that is his full state and of course as the early hours of the morning in the u.s. many lawmakers will not actually know what is going on of course the president himself is flying to the united kingdom right now i'm sure we will get some sort of statement from him as well let's go back to washington d.c. . sudanese human rights activist joining me now from d.c. via skype good to have you still with us in the early hours of the morning as we see this story unfold we're now slowly getting political reaction the reaction that
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perhaps we are waiting for globally but that reaction did actually start back in may if i just bring that in because we had the deputy secretary of state john sullivan saying that to the transitional council that he wanted to see a more expedient shifts lee move to democracy obviously he will be very concerned about developments these past few hours. yes that's true but they were all talks and statements and while they were very strong and. encouraging the council till to hand over there the power to disappear led government but again they were very standoffish they were not really engaging in a very practical way to ensure that transition on the other side you have different . different actors a different state stakeholders who are more attractive and in sending their signals
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and giving legitimacy to the military council so i don't feel like the middle military council still that they need blessing or any our acceptance thrown the international community that was like very political and very diplomatic in using words only and apparently the proceeded with whatever recognition that it was seized but of course the ground realities have changed in the last what 3 and a half hours since the camp was certainly attacked should we say but by state actors. that is unfolding even in the pictures that we're seeing here on al-jazeera from those on the ground watching the military there intervene or the injured being taken to hospital those ground realities and those images are going to impact on the decision makers whether they be in washington or whether it was influence as we saw as we saw in the last few days by representatives from saudi arabia for example
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arriving in car to the military themselves in in sudan going to that g.c.c. or the. the organization of islamic conference meeting in saudi arabia and the fallout from that seems to have really be where we are now. i wouldn't put that past them but again to me. these actions are not strange are not foreign to the military it's not foreign military since 30 years never waged a war against any threat to sudan other than flying at the denise that's what they do that's what they're good at that's what the r.s.s. used to be hired for to kill sudanese old what's happening now is that the camera is moving from darfur and know the mountain and the know not and is just coming to the urban city to the center this has been happening for years elsewhere by the
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same culprits it's the same this is their moto they were teaming themselves in we're trying to put a civilized phrase pretended there have a change of heart and they're trying to come up clean but that that did it that acted not hold up to apply are but he does say yes it could be for them to have any to work admission from the regional countries it does give them a boost and they were given a financial boost and then we're getting at it we could nation as a defacto power but again i feel like there's a tendency to be a bloody it's inherent and them this is what the honestly this military and i said are the same culprits who are implicated in war crimes so this to them it's picnic this is what they're good at indeed if that is the case then let's talk about the pictures that we're seeing all screen right now and that's the injured at several hospitals and clinics around we believe khartoum and of course the news that is
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coming that forces have either surrounded or have stormed hospitals 2 that we know of the hospital the royal hospital this is a worrying development certainly in the last 45 minutes. yes and i'm not sure what they're trying to do if they are trying to arrest people are just kill them because it's and them and kind of forces that what i've been hearing now from people on the ground is that there are police there and you're right and there are areas that still i'm not sure and we haven't seen them like rally people are and arresting them they are shooting them so to me it's very worrying to come into the hospital with with like with these 3 forces where is that what it what are they trying to do are they trying to prevent him from giving services are they trying to arrest someone it's really chaotic and it will if there is any chance for someone to get any help it will be redy jeapordize with them being in
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a in this situation and i don't know if you've seen the videos but there are people crammed in rooms without even beds so i don't know what they are trying to do but from what they've been doing and the people who have been reporting on the ground that they chased them almost equally amateur out of the citizen shooting at them so they're not even sure they want to kill them so basically. to tell they're not arresting they're not holding anyone. so really it's very bizarre i'd like i really couldn't get my head around what's happened we are seeing those pictures certainly both of hospital scenes and scenes as our viewers are seeing right now here on al-jazeera english of military personnel beating unarmed civilians as they flee various locations some of them unconscious on the road let's just talk about those civilians and where they will be fleeing from and going to because we're talking
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about areas as well neighborhoods such as buri and. they're facing cordons and of course local residents there are lighting tires and hopefully trying to keep the what the smoke that is emanating there to. keep the military away from those locations how important all those neighborhoods of borean job are just to give our international viewers an idea of the sort of job graphy of khartoum. well bernie for instance has been one of just like a weedy vibrant neighborhood digger and there are volution and they used to be as a result of that they've been on the receiving end of heavy crack. from nests and police at the time and turn extended they were literally targeting them and what isn't just about but it's proximity actually 2 to 2 to the set 10 and where the general headquarter as but also it's significant is not only just the chick
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reticle location but it's like it has become this. sort of service. it has it's own significant and as a source of rebellion as a source of good are going to a station at the youth being very strong and very perseverence and being very consistent and their fight and that also was at a price for them to to to be attacked more right now most of the others to neighborhoods even they are a little bit far away from the center they're trying to do barricades a lot of the protesters who were not at the sit in and there were saved what they're trying to do now is to put barricades around the major. the so they can and perpetration for the disobedience and and shutting down the got at the country altogether at some point. i don't know who they want to govern if the people don't want them so this is i don't know how is this is and holding we at but in my worst
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case scenarios i did not expect this to happen not even when i know there are criminals i still could not see this happen and this way it's a very different still cruel and it's it's just cruel and did a let's just go back to if you have a scenario where peaceful protesters are now fleeing a protest site we have in the weeks leading up to this scene so many different disparate civil society movements and groups come together when they are being dispersed like this who are they going to take you might say guidance from when it comes to the challenging the military when you have the professional doctors association when you have the sudanese professional association it's one association after the other who's actually in charge you might say who is the focal point as far as you see it of of the the protest movement now.
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it's always been the sudanese professional association is has been the platform for that for the mobilization for tactics and and where to go on where to stay and it has been always a rip presented of the people's choice says so that the s.b.a. it will remain a source of information and they just put out 2 statements of 1st calling people to come to that's a 10 because when there were reports of some attempts to disperse the people and then after that they put in also a statement saying that it's going to go into a disobedience and strike so they are taking the lead and they had been the platform where people go to and turn to for guidance and and that trust has been solidified over the couple of the past week since that the personalities of the people who are behind it have been no one and that the dynamic of the interaction has been more refined as as they go so i'm not worried about who who is leading
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them otherwise ation and most of these that it has been an inherent and it's kind of intuitive in groups and and like how to resist is very intuitive but what you need to do sometimes is to build a solidarity is and of the networks and this has been happening and i think this what worries the t.m.c. because sudan now it's not that you had before december it's a completely different country and let it when it comes to networking and the solidarity of old people this is something you cannot stand against not going to die with bullets to stay with us at the moment let's update our viewers who are joining us here al jazeera english the pictures that you're seeing on your screen right now of the exterior of the military headquarters in car 2 around about 3 hours ago military forces decided to. disperse and attack those unarmed protesters that were coming to. outside there
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there has been firing according to the sudan doctors association 2 killed and many injured been take to several hospitals to those hospitals apparently have been either stormed all surrounded by military troops of course we will keep in touch of what's going there of course there is the political response and diplomatic response coming out in france of the is from the british embassy i believe in khartoum he is tweeting extremely concerned by the heavy gunfire i've been hearing over the last start from my residence and reports that sudanese security forces are attacking the protests sit in site resulting in casualties no excuse for any such attack this must stop now that's from a representative in france of the crime the british embassy in canton we already heard also from congressman jim mcgovern in the u.s. he's a democratic congressman from massachusetts and obviously
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a word is now getting out to the higher levels of politics we expect him or not let's come back to. me sudanese human rights activist who's been commenting and analyzing what's been going on for us via skype from washington d.c. good to still have you with us let's just talk about the position now of the military council they've obviously decided that enough is enough and they have tried to remove all forms of independent media and reporting from the capital before they decided to attack that protest camp this is been very well planned. yes it really did it it's not it's not something under spear the moment they did land it they did it to head and they've been trying to to to use it to steve still it can go unnoticed and that it's big and hard with whitney. whiles and
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phones and life and especially in the past couple of weeks since this victim has been set up it's been a habit for me to watch and this is how i knew about what's happening i was watching one of the life this is how it's been that for the protester to inform the people around them and their family and their beloved ones and the people in the diaspora is the always did do this long one hour or open ended life that for us and the diaspora to sink in and just to see that this is my ritual every night i just checking to make sure that everybody's ok and then it's a wrap to it so they did try to take the professional media out by revoking the licensing license by closing down that but it's still got out but i'm wondering if it could have been on a larger scale had it not been caught on camera because the number of the tanks and the number of the box it like the cars that they were lined up for it to utah
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there's one of the lives is like there's a human shield coming preceeding that their number supersedes the number of the protesters were fellow mottos the they had a large scale like they planned on a really large scale massacre indeed for the moment we will leave it there with you . in washington d.c. thanks so much for joining us let's go back to. mohammed who was a can join me sunni civil rights activist in filmmaking he was speaking to my colleague. martin denis and you were running away from the military. back with us on the phone just tell us where you are and what you're seeing. good to be here again now on that it is called booty it's. too close to the night risen so vividly. pretty forces who are dressed in police
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uniforms. the city. no city. in a week or month holcombe the capital. city now the protesters are taking it to other level running around with tires and closing down the roads the professional associations that he's going to. actually they're stopping everyone in the street and. they're stopping people in the street getting them off the cars and beating them maybe you can hear the gunshots now. what's happening now is the profession. has reached them officially. calling out for all $350.00 to close down the bridges close on all the main roads and go out asking for rights and the biggest thing to happen so far since $1000.00 to december the whole so-called mosques to make official announcements and statement calling people to flock to another city to sudan to go out on the street asking and demanding their rights do you think
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that will actually be has a very speedy outlets and communications all being blocked within saddam. 2100 can always use the p.-n. information is really easy to transport them so that here it's unfortunate that the transmission of it for example has released a statement to provoke to take the license of a just via a couple of other media outlets but we have people on the ground who are reporting . the news organizing. the protesters to which street which streets they should avoid. in the psyche of people right now. because someone who seems to seems to be attacking them can you military of a militia. so i went to. the m.p.'s who are they are they are they military are they police are they militia who are
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attacking the public. they are police. repertory forces and i think that they hold most of them are addressed and. they actually jumping into the house right now in front of their they're going to get out of the house though there are police forces and secretary forces all dressed in the police uniforms which are the blue and green and some of them are also just in that. there were people that were enjoying living there were people that were injured on you'll on your run away to safety where you are now those injured. where were they being able to go for treatment is what we're hearing is that security forces are really the surrounding all storming hospitals. there is a london hospital peaches hospital has this. number busy because. they're capturing actually everyone all the protestors are trying to
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help the injured people to answer all. they're capturing them and getting them up on the street so a lot of people are losing. actually witness the person right. who had a head injury but he was not able to get into the hospital or an ambulance because all the roads blocked the. cries of the police forces injured people have a very high risk. to lose blood and not be able to get treatment because of the police forces and the produce street look as an attack on the civilians did you have any idea that this was going to be the next move by the military transitional council. we had yesterday we had. directed police forces going to attack. and though you're ready for it were called a few weeks to organize marches sittin there if your pension is unfortunately that
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came with a bunch of. the largest number. of vehicles in the works and whether this was the biggest attack there's going to appear to be something over there what organized attack it was shoot to kill. if they protest. we are able to see pictures now on our screen of injured civilians are on the ready to being taken for medical treatment tolls certainly still on the streets not moving is there enough understanding in civil society at the moment to be able to gather for that cold to protest whether it be in khartoum or beyond considering the events that are unfolding in the capital right now. yes definitely. we are a couple of organizations because in the. gathering of doctors it will be safe and
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. informative videos into how to carry people's specific injuries on the back on the head how to carry them how to get the safety how to how to deal with intensive reading i mean there is. a core mission of striving awareness that is happening now on the computer where. such a situation the only problem that we're facing right now is that on the 6th of april the arm was actually standing and the side of the protesters and i was protecting them but today i decision we were running them right in front of the army toward the end of the area the 2nd which is. from the army as we watch him and some of the army hundreds were filming and encouraging the police forces to the protesters i think you'll be able to watch the video to get screened because it exposes how the army is also being controlled by the regime. indeed it seems that if the police. really instigating the whole being ordered by the military this is
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a different turn of events the army. don't want to be seen technically to be involved but they are pulling the strings behind the scenes. ok i want to clarify something for all the international audience that. the police forces. police forces and the army they are all a bunch of people who have been recruited by the regime and the only thing that distinguishes the forces between protesters look at them the only thing that distinguishes them from each other is the uniform i see a lot of cards these police forces in the police force especially right in front of me. and what i was what i wanted to point out is that the uniform distinguishes rapid police forces from police forces right that's what is international now it's done it doesn't matter if you repartees forces army or police.
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maybe bring a big pile of clothes uniforms and they just distribute them among. their recruits or their recruits their group and they give them orders and a long night vision is about is just ethics of the looks of what they're wearing. the police forces police and army just address and address is all controlled by the regimes or so all of them are the same in terms of who. the injured will go let's just talk about the locations at all safe for protesters to gather in at the moment if you have the military. setting up roadblocks clearing protest sites attacking civilians as they flee where is safe to go at the moment even as you say people are being dragged out of their houses.
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well. there are a couple of horses close to the to the focused area royal care hospital and then there's where the hospital probably teaches hospital which is considered to be a part of the city an area the hospitals are close to the areas of forensic because there's a real purpose at the hospital why they're being brought in as of course. they met the rapid police forces in the police and the police forces attacked the protesters even though they were trying to help until just now. when it comes to dealing with the protest i witnessed my own eyes extra border. there was a car that had a couple of people in it to stop the car and the people outside and them and one of the guys was passed out on the floor and they continued even one of the guy was passed out on the floor he was knocked unconscious reading and they were beaten with sticks so this is. if you can hear the gunshots now it's all around cause of
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their gunshot fire everywhere. burned with but most of the people are. getting inside houses. defecting is that the record police forces and the police chief will pretend to be protesting just the civilians who go inside neighborhoods they walk inside neighborhoods and then they give intel to the police and or the police forces of which areas to protest as they gathered them for protection. in terms of. the cold to try and bring people out onto the streets is that why at the moment in relation to what we are seeing the pictures that a scene from khartoum where people across the country be a little bit apprehensive about joining any protests against the military on the streets of saddam. definitely so the thing that is happening now looks very similar to the scene that was happening back in december 2018 extensive use of force
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against protesters but we stood witness that the protest was 1000 the streets we could go out in the streets and we found cover and we organize ourselves from the summer and now we've learned so many things on how to deal with these people how to counter-attack them how to protect ourselves in a peaceful way right now. it's almost 8830 and have gone by by noon expecting huge numbers of protesters to be gone out of the streets because the last day of ramadan and people were planning to clean up the difficult area for the youth hysterically prayer is now one of the forces in the police and that this is an area they were burning down that can. use the protest areas pharmacies and. educations and there's always a. gun to your question yes people will go out in the streets and it's going to be a large number of what we've witnessed before. is that no
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a need for a more concerted effort from the international community to come in and told to the the military and the transitional council certainly in terms of justifying what they've done certainly in the last 3 and a half hours. to be frank i don't think the international community will do much in the situation it's been happening for almost 6 months now and i'm going to . join but we're going to be 6 months that we've been protesting people have been killed in the street the international community they would have done anything they could have done it for the civil action to do but such a violent crackdown in the last 3 hours certainly is going to get reaction and we've seen that reaction now coming in not just from diplomats in khartoum but also politicians from from the u.s. and i think as the u.s. and europe wake up to what's been happening overnight we should expect more comment . was i agree with you we should expect more common
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a common sense of light coming and not going to stop the actions of the transitional military council condemning their actions are not going to stop it. getting the protest i mean if the international community will want to do something it would have been a long time ago but this is an internal policy i don't think i mean excuse me for the word but i don't think it's a measure of anything really cares what happened that they would have done what they could do before it would interfere and somehow i don't know i'm not really a professional. i don't believe that the international community would do any benefit. not even the us even the british embassy there they just witnessing what's happening and. condemning releasing statements the truth of the military council is built on kids who grow up on deserts and then they were told to use guns. and weapons from the age of 13 to 15 years old and now today they're getting paid good amount of money to do to follow their orders. do you think these people are going
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to listen to magic community condemning the acts of what they're doing to the transitional military council believes that the protesters are blasphemous people as in like they want to rewrite the case now that that's what they're shooting to kill which is an interesting thing i mean talking about. their actions there they're pretending to be protecting their religion wearing islam or shooting kill a person or one of the. international community i don't believe they're going to do anything even if they do anything is going to be working to stay with us for a moment while i just update all of us who maybe have just joined us here on al-jazeera english as to what is going on we are getting this news on hold khartoum for the last 3 and a half hours at the protest site civil society groups you might say the faceoff with the military $200.00 power after the dip deposing mohamed al bashir
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a few months ago have stalled to protest sites to break up the protest outside the military headquarters several people. up to 3 we believe have been killed according to the sudan doctors association nenny more have been injured and taken to several hospitals in the capital some of those hospitals we have been told to rule can hospitals been stormed by military personnel hunting down those that are protesting we know the hospital is also taking in the injured as well eyewitnesses say that many have been injured unarmed civilians pictures you can see right now of makeshift tree arge locations and civil society groups just the public trying to help those that have been injured we also saw images of military personnel beating civilians as they were flying sleeping the situation someone conscious on the floor you can see pictures right now others being dragged from their homes you can see
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those big long sticks being used against unarmed civilians even those that are unconscious on the floor are not being given any mercy certainly joining me still is. he's a sudanese civil rights activist been following events for us a few hours ago you were running away from the military you were talking to my colleague martine dennis just explain to us what was actually happening there because you were out of breath the situation was developing but what was actually happening to you were basically. they were drawn back in and they're recorded to report. a couple. of the country and they're like a report of. an order were you can that there were no. recount the people in. the progress next and i was through. 2 days
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after it they released more than $5000.00 cars. 20 percent. of the police force is carrying what to think. and peaceful protest now what i was doing there. filming was happening people were chanting peaceful protest we want to peaceful protest we want our rights and then at about 6 20 am. there was a group of police that emerged out of nowhere from the nile bridge on the northern side of them before the night street started shooting people. and their record police forces were trying to stop them and then what happened is that broke out from the police forces and started attacking although it from the 9th street
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another group a 4th came from the. street. they put the people towards. the eastern side of the sit in. the dementia group did certain areas who were running away you are now we've been told areas such as durian jabra facing or being cold and all either by members of the public will by the military the details of sketchy but ties are being to keep troops away what are you hearing what are you seeing about that alleged statement. right now i'm angry. for the strong. on the main axis is actually. in fact the neighborhood because. some houses. counting the locations were pretty effective. but directed police forces and the
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police. quickly. group of undercover agents to work for them to get their motorbike and they're going through the neighborhood. here and telling his police forces on to the locations where the protesters are gathering in terms of those that have been you might say employed according to you we heard the word before another eyewitness the john jay we were involved. it's a name we haven't heard for a very long time in the normally associated with events in the west of the country in darfur for our international viewers can you tell us who they are and what impact they're having on the situation on the ground in khartoum. definitely ginger reed is a term that is written from the court do not rewrite which means on a horse of a sickly beats people are the ones who are current who are accused. of. killing
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civilians in food since 2003 and this is again hired them to be working as. the western sydney board as protection for illegal immigration the thing that we need are. we received a grant of 215000000 euros from the european union which is going to look it up on the website in september 2017 and this money went to the sudanese government and it was supposed to increase the numbers of soldiers at the borders of libya to be able to protect the border from indian immigration happened they wanted a bigger part to cut off the team and there was a decent european union. recruited to head into it which is when they could be a part of the government the sudanese army has like 82 groups. the navy the air force and so on i didn't read they were called back in
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2003 until 2007 to 2013 when they were recruited to be a part of the government and. they were they had a different name which is the record police forces. but if their activities back in 2013 they were creating some disturbances in the public's perception. just confiscating. property of the streets stopping people shaving their heads. assaulting women. and then now basically what they're doing is that the same things they were doing back and forth they're being done right here in sudan and all of this for a cause that we're protecting the country a country in every. nation in the world is understood to be the people how can you protect the country when you're killing me or its people what is it going to be building a government that has created a military council this is not their happiness or that people are wearing out their rights before where of their obligations to our country. to do with our head of the
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things you read hasn't been since elementary education and now he's basically the prime minister the vice president of the semitic sounds of the 2nd strongest man in sudan giving him power not an insecure person our people expected to take the country and that there are situations you can't you can't give something you don't have we have a saying it's people who bring war can never bring you peace that's what they've been buried on for the moment mamadou has been good speaking to you good to hear that you're safe we will call speak to you hopefully throughout the day as the situation develops since joining us from khartoum i'm joined on the line by hamad el duque a professor needle end university in khartoum he's been part of the protests good to have you with us on al-jazeera just explain to us exactly for the moment where you are and what you're seeing. and now.
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investor we. try several times to go to the headquarters but it seems the military because. i know where they are allowed. to go even the protest has. been. intercepted by. the troops. let me just to get a quick report you know. in practice was actually going on a small fleet and the revolutionary sequence was so high. in the past few days in spite of the stuff on some viable progress the mission of negotiation practiced by their traditional military council but today to our surprise there have been live bullets fired i believe free headquarters where
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protesters staying as a result in the people who were killed last. call that we received now is about it people were killed many many many were angered. also we'll see if another coat that one i mean the spokes spokesperson. disposed to some of the f.c.c. freedom forces and change has been injured. i believe so the political scene now has become vulnerable to look and regional. squabbles palestinians and this is co-opt particularly i would say that the transitional military consul has. gone astray by bringing on other thing listening to anymore voice which could be a hidden agenda if you look at the hostage question prospectively. saying
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there is a law for would only see a link that links some members of the transitional military concert with the parts rigging so it seems this link is still quite distraught and could see this interview in networking between between the past the members of the transition going to cancel us must must stop or must be stopped we do we do expect there while a t. to be to ask riggins about the voice is the voice of reason not rise and be strong announce as this is to judge of history so i think also the tradition of the castle has been. has been telling us you know over the past few. weeks has been telling us that they were never resolved they would never resort to violence in a number of conferences on a number of occasions but sadly. unfortunately today the council violated and denied his is his i think the transitional council has in tangle itself
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by printing it its people and this confrontation will tend the horse attrition into kairos. cannot professor contract with this kind of bloodshed the 3rd what you're saying but in the dark reality of what we're seeing on our screen right now it seems that the higher politics and the higher the analysis can't be done until you might say the fighting stops or the assault stops civil society itself and civil society movements now are suggesting that they want to see the public come out onto the streets in maybe 2 hour 2 to 3 hours time is their willingness by the general public across sudar to come out on the streets when they know that the military themselves and offshoots have weapons to
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shoot with that they could be injured is there are a drive is there a real sense of. civil need to come out on to the streets knowing that their lives could be in danger. yeah. you know this what you are expecting and now a can see people starting to respond to the to the bones of the ever see and i thing that transitional all say the turn him to the consul has to understand that the civilian lives transitional government most shakable of the freedom forces time change and my advice to the military constitute. my vice should go to them to cancel i would say to them you have got wedged between the revolutionaries heavily aims. desires and here lies the problems now we are where we are facing to come civilian on one side and different
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imagery consul on the other side and i think also the truth how much you can see instead of harboring between the mouse watering commitments and the people's will the transition mr constant has to side with the fact the reasoning with such nationalistic matters invites sacrifices in terms of the situation in the location where you are what are you seeing in terms of. military build up or. military personnel in the area. from the players who are saying now i can see you know demonstrators. are chairs by the by the military troops you know in the areas and now now the moment i'm speaking to you i can hear live shooting you know like shooting people and now i mean the troops now i should think people in the streets aware those injured if any
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where they've been taken to the nearest hospital because we're also hearing that medical facilities are either being surrounded or stormed. yeah yeah yeah yeah lots of injured people have been taken to be against the wars and now are receiving treatment by the violent. doctors but the problem is those who have been injured in the areas. lots of problems because if you want to risk killing one you know you may receive you may receive bullets or or you would be arrested so i think the situation is so connected now and there is a lack of will or lack of seriousness from from the from the military consul part and i think the militia consul part. bye bye
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bye bye bye the agreement that he has seen before. and that he just and so many stand and that he has acted before they are not going to use violence and they're not going to to to to to to to to use violence as a state but the problem is now they are using brutal violence and what we're seeing and what we are receiving now is something and unpredictable and leavell an unexpected. turn again if you want people but this is let me point this is systemize reaction same thing that sisi did before now is happening in sudan. indeed and if that's the scenario that we're looking at one commentator here on al-jazeera said that the international community could do nothing they haven't done anything for the last few months yet we are now getting word certainly from diplomats in khartoum and politicians certainly from the united states is the middle of the night there were some of them are waking up to this news of what's
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going on do you think it's now more pressure needs to be put on the international community at the very at the very highest level to try not just speak but act against a transitional military council. for if i have any one of the previous interviews with you that i made of course and i would like to repeat the same of course to the international community. and my call is to the international community and primary european countries and the security council and are quite sure that their responsibility it was. lobbying for those people out again is your intervention as quick as part. if the if the intervention happens. where do you expect or who will the t.m.c.
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listen to they've had a delegation from saudi arabia here they themselves have been in saudi arabia recently of the organization of islamic conference the african union you might say gave them a bit of leeway to try and find a negotiated settlement it's all very fluid and as you suggested there are many stakeholders within and outside the borders of sudan who have an interest as to what goes on now. we had interest work with anybody who wants to start with the civil disobedience. and anybody who's trying to serve to support. him and the course of events people. we are ready to work with them to work with the international community because what is happening now we have to answer the call of our people who have cancer to answer the call of unshakable god of our people anybody who wants to work and we call them we call them on ask them
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to come and work with as you know what is happening now invited as part put us to work with anybody who wants to serve the people of sudan now what's happening now is it's as if it has never happened before in sudan this is the fairest time in sudan the military the military. forces to to to distort the image i mean the dismembered image of cause of this to distort the image of sudanese people and the image of of the armed forces itself it hasn't happened before in sudan and we have not happened again or to see what does for the moment thanks very much joining us professor. neil and university in car too. you are watching al-jazeera english and our continuing coverage of the violent military crackdown against protesters in sudar is just gone 9
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o'clock in the morning in khartoum it's 10 o'clock local here in doha it is o'sullivan g.m.t. and of course the sudanese doctors association says at least 5 people have been killed and many more are seriously injured after a heavily armed troops opened fire on protesters in the capital khartoum and that was you know by. the sudanese professional association which is leading the demonstrations say thousands of troops entered the area outside the military headquarters where the protest camp was located testa say they've been peaceful and have done nothing to provoke the security forces who are using live ammunition and tear gas priyanka gupta has the very latest. a raid at dawn with a protest is at least expected it. so down strap in support forces and the police moved in. shots were fired as protesters died of hama for more
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than 2 months that protected this city and outside the army headquarters the symbol of the defiance and their volution for saddam's military who is it represented a threat the reason why protected gathered from the army base because when a light being shot in the perimeter of the army base the army had the right to defend north weren't going to be accorded 1000000000 but now we have been shot right for the argonaut did not. come across before. coming from different side streets from the right. where we're being attacked by rocket body or. the police but there's something that i witnessed. where we're being attacked by rocket or 3rd. protest is accused to torrijos dropped support forces headed by general to make the of ordering the violent crackdown he's the deputy leader of the
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transitional council has been in charge since omar bashir was deposed in april 24 hours earlier he was films making a veiled threat to protest as who want to see civilian rule. we must firmly stand up to the ongoing chaos and build a truce as for the civil state the protesters are demanding to be truly a civil individuals above it it must be built on the rule of law it must be ruled by law and no one is above the. chaos continues it going to be a civil state it will be anarchy. but saddam's protesters who've seen the bloodshed riba she's not too long ago prepared for a long fight after monday's violence they called for civilian government has morphed into the removal of the entire military leadership the protest leaders are calling for a mosque civil disobedience movement across the country i am going right now there
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. are 5 area. right now. this is not going to this is the end of it. they're using not the end of the military. the end of look at the end of the. talks between the military council and protest leaders who suspended 2 weeks ago after the 2 sides failed to agree on who will lead the country during the transitional period the military council says if no progress is made it will call elections before the end of the year a move rejected by the opposition but many protesters accuse the military rulers of being influenced by external powers monday's attack on what's been the most potent symbol of saddam's resistance has made a more intense face. between protesters and military rulers more likely.
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let's take a look at how we got to this point must protest that began in december over living costs falls the military to depose president bashir on april the 12 he'd been in power for nearly 30 years the transitional council was then set up but protest leaders were not satisfied while the mass sitting outside army headquarters continued they held talks with the council eventually reaching some agreements 6 people were killed in the middle of may when violence broke out near the protest site demonstrators accuse the army of resorting to tactics used under the sheers rule well last week the council said the camp had become a national security threat it warned action would be taken against what it called unruly elements it also ordered the closure of the al-jazeera media network bureau in khartoum without giving a reason i'm a joined by. another protester good to have you with us on the line we spoke to you
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earlier when this situation was developing just explain to us now if you can safely where you are and what you can see. yeah right now because i live nearby this area and my in the neighborhood. one of the major roads of course we were in there and we managed to some protestors to block the road and but potions see they really won't die by the military but the militia. right now my brother is like he's in the major hospitals there that are still many injured people and so many. so they cannot get out of the house because they cannot get in the hospital and that is one of the biggest hospital might be needed at headquarters the military health court that now is like empty it is surrounded by the militia home it diminishes and them of the long anybody to come in. and
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to get not to get in protesters are all over the. committee or they are collecting on that looking roads and they're burning tires. dumanis another city on the money being completely. filled with the protesters and they are doing the same thing. but don't question the why i mean my house now it's not too far from the mandrel that is 60 don't that is one of the major roads in khartoum i could tear. down from from my house because one of the major neighborhood that is like the it's a major area called the protesters that have been involved in the evolution and it is called booty area so it's a video now not safe and. they have blocked it protest. too in their homes and they would like getting inside easy to see in the area.
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but still people are not giving up and they are never to give up they did do well when you spoke to earlier on al-jazeera you said you were ready to carry all protesting. going to a protest site wherever that may be obviously the situation around you has changed in terms of security safety yet the yes the civil society movement is is appealing to the sudanese people to come out on to the streets in a roundabout 2 to 3 hours to show their discontent across the country do you think that's really possible under these circumstances yeah it looks like it's possible they will they will they will not they will not stay in their homes they will try to even my husband myself and we have our guys there to block their own. just like they are going to get out now i called one of the one of the activists she told me that they are i would and they are like
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a lot of people that is there outside their homes. they don't want to stay their homes indoors while people are happening and i think what has happened ok and we are and i am from here the man being i am requesting i'm telling the international community and the u.n. to have done like a nonviolent civilian and then release year off for having these all over the place actually taking over your life with no rights you we have obviously british diplomats in the car to voicing their concerns and we have american politicians also tweeting at the moment is the middle of the night obviously you'll appreciate in north america and parts of europe as they wake up to this news you want the international community to help they've done nothing according to some of the people that we've been speaking to on al-jazeera here they wonder whether the international community can do anything. all right now actually they they can i
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mean because this is not to continue playing any law they have to be prepared to help the done. but right now i mean i'm in the ground now we've just got to the needs are. that the one part of can't get out of the country right now but we need to be that much of a community can more us to move because this is a must according to them it is them not because i think it's the issue on all over the russian media indeed right now we have one prime then people who want to like so i love and respect me want to indeed we're seeing pictures of security personnel assaulting unarmed civilians some of them unconscious on the road we're also seeing the injured in hospital being treated and looked after we're also hearing news of certain hospitals maybe the royal care hospital being stormed others being surrounded. yeah this is the situation in khartoum and in areas around khartoum what are you hearing from your colleagues your friends from civil society beyond
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car to other areas of sudan is there any word getting from do we have any word from the. oh just like we are communicating to the media. i mean it is just like this militia is like is not going to stop the massacre is going to continue because the protesters are not giving up and they don't cost anyone i see this is like income by people in war you know if you think i'm glad. this is why we demand and we are requesting help asking the international community the u.n. . to move on this because this is not going to ask now indeed if the tensile treaty can help i'm sure we're going to get word from the calls you said your brother just a few moments ago was isolated in a medical facility was he able to tell you of the was he able to tell you of the
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types of injuries people have suffered yes they can type actually different they have been some of them were shot on the chest some of them on the. head all over the body. but he didn't want to dance and did. this of course. and of course. the hospital where he is has been surrounded by troops has it been infiltrated we were hearing that some hold on one thing yes they are not letting people in on to get out the hospital news like kept there you know also they don't know they think they're not getting any help from outside they cannot get anything not even in good people that could get inside the house right now in terms of the location where you are if you can safely tell us can you describe it for us in terms of the buildup of security personnel where you are.

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