tv NEWSHOUR Al Jazeera June 15, 2019 4:00pm-5:01pm +03
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and the economy prosperity from advice on disease must come home and. our obama smith joins us live now from the tatic capital d. shan bay where a number of asian leaders have been gathered for a conference there and we have heard from one of them iran's leader of course. the president has sent rouhani what's he been saying. while he's been speaking in the last half hour or so and he's again hit out at the u.s. for leaving this nuclear deal and he's quite spoken really some of the strongest terms you've heard him speak about this in recent times no reference to the tanker attacks this week but he has just said that now that our maximum goodwill and strategic patience on the one hand and the u.s. law breaking on the other has been proven to or iran while expressing readiness to engage in any sort of bilateral interaction has decided to cease performing on some
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of its commitments under the j c p o a now he didn't say exactly what those commitments were but we know already that the u.s. has complained as accused iran of increasing iranian you're rainy and richmond's now part of this original deal was to limit the amount of uranium iran could enrich to little to stop it being able to create its own nuclear bomb and in return for that there would be relief on sanctions the u.s. withdrew from the deal european countries and asian countries have remained in the deal but iran says this is not only not enough patience is exhausted and it wants to restabilize reestablish the balance in the nuclear deal rouhani said awsome. all right bernard thank you for them i'm going to go live now to. carrie lamb the holy hong kong cheek executive speaking now addressing the media that she is speaking in cantonese right now as is the custom there but as soon as she begins speaking in
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english once then we have translation english translation of this and now some lessons need them in hong kong so that we can and people become a refuge for fugitive offenders and this is exactly why we would like to move amendments to do future to think this ordinance this will is to move to a legal assistance in criminal matter is ordinance that's out of reach you know what legislative intent we carefully looked at what was carrots 0 in other places in february this year we formally started the consultation exercise our proposal was based on the existing legislation and we have to can into account the procedural safeguards to human christ so you've got us including the court's roe as well as fear and open judicial system all such have been retained we have been talking to all parties and all walks of life we have been listening to to feel
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well. the suspect into taiwan who cite case is now serving his sentence in the chair of hong kong for other of finances we would like to pass the legislation in july this year bearing in mind that fact we have listened to a few soldiers who signed and on 2 occasions we have already made changes 1st of all before the formal introduction of the bill in co we have taken away knowing items of offenses that are extraditable and then for do punish when fresh go instead of one year imprisonment we have changed it to 3 years in prison another round of change took place after the introduction of the bill and then for the punishment fresh whole it was changed from street years or above to 7 years or above that would be the maximum punishment fresh hope also and haunts the human rights for safeguards so as to ease the worries of the society so as to secure more
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support i myself and what a friend of the shows have done however i have to that in terms of explanation and communication they were indeed after could see many citizens of hong kong have agreed with us on due to object to is involved but that the bill has caused a lot of division into society there were supportive there were also opposing views and their views were very strong and your stu are not sure where. and understanding about the bill in relation to the legislative work. suspicion has emerged we try our best to never o. ded differences in the open yet. hoping that we can easily where really is offered a pos we saw we saw that tens of thousands of people took part in processions of marches and then after sunday march and then on wednesday there were also
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demonstrations and there were serious clashes as a result which produce offices press and general citizens were injured to give those who have to properly set them to buy. in the light of what has happened and as a responsible government on the one hand we have to uphold the rule of law at the same time we have to take into account the profiling circumstances we have to bear in mind the greatest interest of hong kong 1st of all we need to restore peace and order in hong kong and we have to prevent having for the injuries course to the public as well as to police on this occasion i would like to think the approach a step richmond came molests call members as well as the community leaders in the past few days both publicly and in private they have talked to us telling us that we should pause and instinct and who should then act in accordance with the agreed
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you know timetable which would be soon to 2nd at the letters of council so as to avoid causing further challenges in their society and in fact taiwan on many occasions have opening and clearly said that they would not upset do you propose that was made by the hong kong special and mistreats of regent government to take back to mitchell county and then urgency to pasta legislation pushkin get current registered to you perhaps no longer exists but a prostitute was rationed we considered the matter here i would like to make an announcement the special ministry to. government would like to suspend work we would like to have more explanation would like to listen more to the views expressed i would like to emphasise that we are open and we will listen to all fields concerning the bill from just to sightsee the secretary for security who
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wants to the president of the legislative council. so as to drop the noches to resume to 2nd reading to page in other words the letters of counsel as far as the handling of the bill is concerned will be halted will be suspended. we do not intend to set any line on the world from work we promise that after we have created 2 views report to the security panel of the letter coach will consult the use of the lawmakers before we decide on this step forward would i express my gratitude a separate macam members who have been supporting our legislative work as well as members of the public there are also others who may not support the bill but there are school have been expressing your views in a peaceful manner as syncs such citizens and organizations hong kong is
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a civilized diversified society we need this kind of mutual respect we may disagree but we are still in harmony finally as the chief executive of the special ministry to reach him for our original intention of the amendment to this come this came from our love for hong kong go for my part in escrow is our concern about our people as a result of our in adequacy is and a number of factors for the past 2 years we have been quite peaceful but once again we have seen a lot of disharmony and clashes this has disappointed and sad to many people it is for he said and found it regrettable. we if the best and most most sincerity in a humble heart we are open to all criticisms and who is stupid connect it with the people of hong kong media in february last year
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a murder case in taiwan shocked and saddened many hong kong people a young hong kong lady was killed and this sucks but flat back to hong kong so we've just been hearing from hong kong cheeky chief executive kerry land there announcing that the the controversial extradition bill that is sent so many people in hong kong out into the streets in protest against it will be suspended. this is going to be seen as a nod to the anger expressed by so many people there but future still at this point to remain uncertain scott hyla is standing by force listening to all of this so scott as expected this is being put to one side. that is going to be that something that many people are against us in hong kong are going to be
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happy about at least for now. at least for now has an absolutely and what carrie lamb was describing there is that she believes there's a lot of misunderstanding about this proposed extradition law we heard kind of detail why they wanted to put this law forward why they were such a fast track in this law again that 2nd reading of the proposed law was supposed to take place on wednesday that's when we saw those those clashes she said that it brought a lot of disharmony to hong kong what we saw over the last week so it is her responsibility she said to take a better look at the law to better explain the law she said there's a lot of misunderstandings about it so that's very interesting this is something she said kind of straight the way through she believes that people don't really understand what it's all about but again as we were discussing before housing my lot of people here pro-democracy protesters who came out to the streets here in hong kong they see this yes they are against the specific extradition laws because that means criminal suspects can be extradited to china mainland china beijing but
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they also see it as a further power grab from xi jinping the president of china so that's also why they're out there proposed protesting this law but again as we heard she believes that there's a lot of misunderstanding what this law is about it's her duty she said legislative council duty to explain it further so again as we anticipated. she suspending further discussions on this law for now so yes it is i shore term victory for these protesters they got essentially what they wanted in the very short term that is that this law will proceed further but it doesn't mean that it's definitely cancelled it's not dead it's just suspended and scott what do you choose to see the origins of this bill as coming from the hong kong government which is seen as very prosing probating or whether it's coming directly from the beijing government itself. this is looks like a. political calculation that they have made and
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a way for them to save face after all of the protests that we saw over the last few days this and so much global attention. absolutely i guess you know this this political calculation that we're seeing right now unfolding live comes on the heels of what you can say was a miscalculation politically by kerry lamb and that she didn't expect to get this kind of backlash this kind of reaction from from hong kong so this is her but her backpedaling yet so obviously it's going to be a situation where she has to you know kind of lick their wounds and try to to do things over again if you will again it's not dead but what's interesting is that when you look at it yes it's a pro beijing legislative council they've kind of stacked the deck beijing actually selected the leaders here hand-picked shortlisted leaders here in hong kong so i guess anything they do obviously will be ultimately answerable to beijing so
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anything they're doing here is part and parcel with what beijing wants and that's what really really really angers a lot of these pro-democracy protesters that's why we saw this. reaction to this bill now what happens now is this you know it's a step back obviously but how does it go forward what's beijing's involvement going to be you know it's a lot of it is behind the scenes you know we saw the ministry of foreign affairs spokesperson the other day mention react to the violence we saw on wednesday saying it was a riot situation but again that's probably all we're going to see is really just kind of a very official press conference reaction to what's going on in hong kong but again a lot of behind the scenes beijing action is going on as well but we really won't know the full extent of it but right now. their limbs announcement obviously it's something where they have to backpedal a bit from this from this law indeed scott and it's hard to see at this point how this will be. resolved and where things go from here activists. have talked before
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the. strikes and on boycotts of classes and more protests. and so on and we heard from kerry lamb a few days ago. essentially saying that they were determined to posture. bill and but just to make changes to it in the future so it's an open question as to where it all goes from here. absolutely and yet again it's suspension it's not killed and she she really kind of underlined in that press statement she underlined that it's their job to better inform people of the law itself they said that she said that they failed in that so again it's not like she's going to change what the law actually is proposed the changes to this law extradition laws are going to be it's just that they need to better explain them so that's going to be interesting to see how she does that and what kind of reaction will be from from these pro-democracy demonstrators there's a march planned tomorrow sunday and that's obviously going to go forward what will
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be interesting is the mood in that march is going to be more of a victory lap or are we going to see a lot of what we saw last sunday a lot of people coming out protesting against this this extradition law or is it going to be more of a celebration because they least in the short term they got what they wanted this law the passage of this law has been pushed back on them yeah and as we're talking to you scott still addressing reporters on the announcement of the suspension of the law in english we're expecting to hear. from her and she takes questions in a little bit so we'll hang around for that and while we're waiting for that to happen just give us a little bit of background as to how this all originated because it was it was something to do with a crime that was committed in in taiwan and that gets into the timing of when this bill was 1st introduced. that was a murder case there's. hong kong gentleman was charged with
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a murder in taiwan and because of the current extradition law he wasn't the government couldn't extradite him to taiwan so this is the begin. of why this bill came to play and carrie lamb she said it was a very personal plea from from the woman who was killed mother that drove her to push this change in the extradition law forward which she said that's what she said was the main reason for it obviously because of what the law also does and that means yes it's opens the door for extradition to anywhere and beijing pro-democracy protesters are focused on that beijing aspect of the law and they're very concerned because that means that the judicial system here which is very transparent and you know renowned around the world for being. fair and direct whereas in mainland china the judicial system is not so the concern here was if the
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judiciary in beijing can get a hold of of suspects criminal suspects here they could be trumped up there could be trumped up charges against those who say bad things about mainland china those who are critics of the chinese government because we know how they handle it in mainland china concerned for hong kong people is that there could be trumped up charges and then extradite these people these critics to beijing but again the root cording to carry land the route that she wanted to push forward with this extradition law change was that case in taiwan but obviously the the critics focus on the broader spoke scope of that law doesn't and it looks like terry lamb is going to be taking some questions now from reporters less than she's trying not to a small time one question because we have got many reporters kiya yes something paul. in $23.00 there was a proposal to legislate for article countries 3 of the basic law and then took bill
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also hopefully tried to now the pendennis have said that suspension point not be acceptable suspension would it be some. effective in modifying the anger and then point you to oppose you have said that. if the mainstream opinion is against you then you would step down do you think that it is do not serious enough to ask for you to step down and you have always said that you are in much and in fact over the past few days many parents with said because many dumb people we've by the police with excessive force they have been injured and are you going to apologize on behalf of the police are you going to set up an independent commission of inquiry to look into that matter and are you going to retract the statement that it is being. i hope you won't ask
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a few questions in one go out of wise the report says will have to chance to ask questions yes. we were set aside enough time but then there are many reporters here it shows that has attracted watches read consent 1st of all as i have said your own original purpose of the bill asked you correctly in my mind if many citizens and in fact more than half of the law in pinkas are in support of the legislature of work so your original purposes remain the same but then our communication has not been asked to quit we need to give a chuy's we need to be open we need to accommodate kate we explain and will listen when we listen we're going to be open and you will be comprehensive in odd ways we're going to listen to different we as long as we have to same purpose thirty's we can achieve regional puppet says of course i have to choose just know that one
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of the 2 are regional purposes. that is hunting to taiwan one site case that may not be achieved i have already told their parents of to think. that we might not be able to achieve that particular purpose but then for the on the original purpose it is too important there are still loopholes in our. mechanism we can only do we have to surrender all future too often do is was 20 countries so i don't think we are in a position to retract the bill are not wise we are sending the message that the bill is unjustified and therefore it has to be proved wrong so that's i will position indeed when i ran for the post hong kong leader kerry lamb dressing reports as there of questions and answers after earlier announcing. this she was delaying indefinitely the controversial extradition law that would allow
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people to be taken to mainland china for trial after these widespread protests that took place in hong kong more reaction to that official right now it's inside story . the 3rd is the red cross has provided a lifeline for afghanistan's physically disabled one i want to meet through remarkable people risking their lives to help the disabled in blue to in afghanistan on al-jazeera. it's an ambitious non-western platform the shanghai cooperation organization holds yet another summit on the heels of a global trade war but what difference does this group make on the world stage and could it be a front that's united against the u.s. this is inside story.
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hello welcome to the program i'm adrian finnegan leaders of the shanghai cooperation organization of in kurdistan for an annual summit led by china and russia the 8 member your ration block accounts for almost half of the world's population a meeting comes as tensions grow between the u.s. and china over the escalating trade war meanwhile iran is seeking support against washington's maximum pressure campaign but regular conflicts between members namely india and pakistan cast doubt on whether the bloc can challenge the existing world order led by the u.s. i was here as robin for us to walk are reports now from bishkek. now that india and pakistan members full members of the shanghai cooperation organization the club would like to be taken very seriously on the world stage because it represents 43 percent of the global population and a quarter of global gross domestic product it's about forging new strategic
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alliances and that became apparent very much today with iran which has observer status attending president rouhani criticizing the united states defending iran against allegations that it was involved in the attacks on those oil tankers and finding very much a sim supports amongst other member states like china and russia both of whom have their issues with the u.s. russia under sanctions for and it for it's an exception of crimea china now under pressure donald trump's trade war now these countries are very much interested in regional cooperation on the economic trade opening up new trade corydoras and of course counterterrorism they talk about being partners but it is also worth bearing in mind that within the organization there are big differences rivalries between these countries let's take for example russia and
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china both have very significant interests in maintaining insurance in central asia and with pakistan and india both member states those 2 countries having continuing difficulties ongoing differences with india accusing pakistan of aiding and abetting terrorism so there's a lot of rivalry within this organization as well as partnerships between those member states what exactly is the shanghai cooperation organization what it's a political economic and security alliance led by china and russia since 2001 it has 8 members. india and pakistan joined in 2017 other members include kazakstan kurdistan to take a stand and is biggest on iran has been trying to become a full member but remains for the moment an observer along with afghanistan bella roosts and mongolia the organization represents 40 percent of the world's
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population with more than 20 percent of global g.d.p. its row has been expanded from security to other areas like trade energy culture and transportation between member states the block is increasingly being seen as a means of countering u.s. economic and military power. so let's bring in our guests for today's discussion joining us from moscow alexey clipped the call foreign policy analyst with the russian international affairs council david is professor of international politics at sysfs upton's nanjing center he joins us now via skype from managing and richard white security analyst at wiki stress in washington d.c. richard let's start with you how much geo political heft does the shanghai cooperation organization have is it anything more than a back slapping opportunity and talking shop from your point of view. the organization has always underperformed its potential if you were just to
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add together the population the and thus real power of the military power of all the members and that aggregate is significantly greater than how the organisation itself has been able to act as a unified bloc this is a good question dollars because for a while when i was 1st set up there were just concerns in the west berkeley washington that this was going to become some kind of anti nato some kind of authoritarian international structure that russia china and other countries would join in and act as a unified bloc to balance the united states and also to drive it out of the heart of eurasia but i would argue if the organization has never been able to function that way because of some disagreements among its members a lack of a strong infrastructure or a inherent to itself and other challenges david r.s.a.
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would you agree with that assessment how important is this block to china in particular and its belsen road initiative with the the still escalating trade war with the u.s. right now. yes i think richard's right it has been an underperformer but the a c. o. for china is strategically important because it. if it can do a change in the switches to stabilize a central asia and reckons al differences rivalries it has was russia. this will go a long way toward helping the be all right i succeed because that the mainland connectivity carders of the. 2 central asia so it's very important. alexi. what one of the organizations aims and ambitions what does it see itself as and who is in the driving seat russia or china
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when the 1st place we shouldn't forget that a c o didn't appear as a counterbalance to nato or to any other regional or global organization in the 1st place its original unity which unites regional countries to tackle original problems in the 1st place its counterterrorism security and. stable development and then economics so this is why it's important for those countries who are currently members and are attracting new members to actually to perform as an alternative. to the existing global organization but not in a way as a competing one but underlining the value and the rising importance of the original blocks which can tackle more effectively the regional problems. on the regional level whether it is the problem in afghanistan whether it's iran or its
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other problems in central asia which is crucial for all member states alexa's things stand at the moment is it failing to fulfill its potential as a bloc. well. of course it wants to gain more weight and political weight in the can on the quaids in terms of but as my colleagues rightly indicated that it on the performs hugely given that it accumulates. bigger part of the world you know economic power population and in political power it on the before in in real terms so this is why i would argue that they try to focus more on the regional issues for which our concern for the members at most not for you know the global community richard of course a lot has changed since the bloc meant met in june last year china now finds itself
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in broiled in a trade war with the u.s. india pakistan relations hit a new low earlier this year got iran coming under pressure from the u.s. and its gulf allies all of that sets the scene for what could be a fascinating meeting what do you think we can expect. no i think that it raises it's going to increase the turtle tension is raised and the block. china may wish to secure the block support for its position on some of the economic disputes this has with the us you know call for deemphasizing the dollar or building up an alternative economic trade structure and so on by this a country like india even pakistan would be has a 10 to back and an explicitly anti u.s. approach russia made for similar reasons want to use the block to attack the u.s.
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position on iran and i'm sure they have iranian support on this but again some of the other countries are going to be a bit hesitant to address this we've also got the interesting issue of some recent internal developments and key countries i mean a new elections in india didn't change much but certainly we've had different. leaders take charge in pakistan and more recently in kazakhstan so the dynamics i think we much more fluid but i think that will lead mostly to paralysis i think the communique will be very bland and i think that some country like china is going to try and focus its efforts on other institutions where it has more control of b r i for example david you agree that we'll get a communique just does to the u.s. china trade will give other c.e.o. members leverage over china right now is china's position in the block we couldn't because the trade. well it has to turn more toward the continent because
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it's in countering had a lot of problems on its you know pacific periphery and with the trade worth the u.s. strategic tensions but to get back to why it's not a former. you know it's the problem is that the big 3 china russia and india you know each want to be a strategically independent autonomous and you know but china's in a position to be a dominant power in eurasia it's huge it's arguably a global power a rival to the united states russia india are sort of want to be great powers their regional powers but they will they would like to achieve great power status and so this because they have these ambitions it's very difficult for them to to agree to any meaningful and important of cooperation between them whether it's security or economic because the the the the the ambitions of these
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3. are going in a way mutually incompatible even though they all want to promote racial integration the terms on which they want to do it will you know there won't there won't be any common agreement on on how exactly does that mean david that that they can never be allies in the true sense of the word that there are many countries who may be willing to work with each other and a loose affiliation that's correct yes because each of these powers wants to remain strategically autonomous which means they cannot. unless absolutely forced. they they will be very reluctant to form an alliance and particularly if it's an alliance against the united states. although i have to say the u.s.
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is doing a good job of driving them together but. but i think there are internal differences china of chain of versus india's serious problems russia versus china serious problems india russia not so bad but you know china doesn't want the india russia axis to get too strong so you know they're there they're out. there at sixes and sevens inside their organization alexiev iran has observer status at this meeting it wants in though will it ever be invited to join the grouping do you think and what would that mean for the dynamics of the group that david was just talking about that. well from the beginning the air as c.e.o. wasn't that extensive and as we know that india and pakistan just recently joined they're going ization as a full members and now we have 4 observer members including iran so i
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think ultimately iran will become the part of the organization and that is inevitable for for any kind of been. organization coming back to the larger picture of a c.e.o. role and 3 powers which were mentioned but my colleagues would also not forget that it s c o is not the only platform where this parties can talk and negotiate they also have brakes platform they also have g 20 platform and a bunch of other platforms so it's the importance of such form it is not in in the ability to talk to each other because or i would argue that this country build their relations between each other on bilateral basis rather than on multilateral so and it's hard to. imagine that on the level of breaks or a c.e.o. china russia and india will or any
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a pakistan maybe if which iran can come up with some you know breakthrough deals or agreements rather we can expect that don't buy that for a basis between russia india russia and china china and iran. so i think that's more important to keep track and also another comment on the argument that this interest of russia china and india mutually exclusive i wouldn't say so i would rather to look at this from a different angle saying that they can more to be complimentary to each other of course no one can argue chinese dominance economic dominance. but together with without india and russia on board chinese initiative one both on the road is hard to come to fruition this is why china needs to have and developed contacts with all this important act as if it wants its initiative economic initiative integration
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initiative to to eventually succeed richard let's i just want to pick up on something the u.s. saying earlier about the this grouping originally when it was when it was 1st to see it being viewed in the u.s. as a potential rival to other political military alliances perhaps a threat to the u.s. and its interests and what would you make of what david was just saying that at the moment that foreign policy in the u.s. is kind of backfiring with the u.s. to get a good job of driving these countries together. right so the original context of the concern was during the call you know there in the u.s. intervention in afghanistan the group being came out with a statement saying well you know now that war is winding down it's time for the u.s. troops to leave and this was seen as an effort to have the u.s. leave both the bases and its back to stan and then of and purchased on and both
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that occurred oh arguably for different reasons and so that was seen at that time which would have been i think around 2005 for a donald rumsfeld made some statements in effect that these thought this potential anti-u.s. block sense that i think is are you know as i like say is that it's been focusing less on traditional security issues more on transnational countering terrorism. various plans for economic development more social development they have a c.e.o. spirit that they like to put forth and it's not it's not directly moved into the area of military security. and then sense that as you mentioned president trump's been elected and he's pursue policies that have not and that russia china india and other members are not fully agreed with by it's not been a military threat to these countries that it's more than an economic challenge and
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here they each are pursuing basically their own route so china has been relying more on its global proponent rense the b r i initiative inside and so on to try and ally countering u.s. actions russia has tried to get china to back it but not been very successful so it's been the line primarily on its own eurasian economic union and encouraging the russian the mastic production and then india is basically tried to deal with the u.s. directly still not try and join competing woks and the other members in the middle iran would arguably have the most interest and seeing these countries aligned together which iran being a partner but it's not a full member i don't think that will occur soon i think that given the state of iranian relations with the u.s. and other countries that would be seen as too provocative so despite the props u.s.
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policies trying to challenge each of them we haven't yet seen them aligned together within the su that may occur in other areas but not within this block the david some of the thorny issues that exist between member states and china are often politely ignored at these the zambia will summits deemed perhaps internal matzos to china the weakness in changing. for instance why is that. well because. the reality is that those most directly you would think most directly interested in defending the weavers that is their their brothers and cousins in central asia and even turkey. don't really want to say anything to anger china because they're so economically dependent on china so they're not going to raise that issue. with one they at least it's
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a regional defense when they at least face complaints perhaps. or will china face complaints behind the scenes in a behind closed doors about for instance that the cost of of the belts and roads projects that that are on the going at the moment and the debts that it places on these countries oh yes i think india no doubt will will have a say because you know india has to also justify why it's not a member of the be all right why they haven't attended either of the p.r.i. of florence the most recent one being just just. in april. and so for sure india will bring up you know and you know see it in a sort of sly way the problems of b r i i and you know india is also going to press china on the terrorism issue. not terrorism is something that china takes seriously but when it come except when it comes to pakistan so you know i think you
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can expect modi to to press china on that on that particular issue. now and then there's the there is the russia india axis is very interesting because and iran has a role to play here because you know india's plan for establishing overland connectivity to europe through russia has to go through iran and as long as iran is facing u.s. sanctions it's going to be very difficult to achieve that so what i'm what i would be looking for actually is some kind of statement by the s.c.l. members on the on the iran situation the sanctions it faces because. you know both china and india are heavy buyers of iranian oil and india needs to further its plans for connectivity to europe and to bypass to be or i it needs to have iran able to conduct normal you know commercial relations with the rest of world so you
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know this is one area i think where. you know u.s. policies you know i can understand individually you know why the u.s. is imposing sanctions on the various members but when you when you add it all up and see the result you have you also have to consider that. you know and it may it may in a way. kind of push the members together. in a way that may actually give the appearance of it becoming anti-american although i'm not sure that would be true but on certain specific issues for example on iran you can see some you might see some case something. is that as an observer nation do you think do you think that i mean it would be delighted if if if it was mentioned in the final communique do you think that will happen. well i don't think
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that old members would you know be that united in using iran as a you know reason for us we're toric even without iran already an american rhetorical been on the summits because. iranian president and chinese wraps and russia underlined already how united states basically contributed to the lack of security in this region in and central asia in the middle east which affects all parties of all members of the a c o so and they're coming back to the remark on whether as you know is on 10 american not i wouldn't say or i wouldn't look at this as i mean such organizations are created not for the sake of being something they're rather created to be more for something and here this is exactly the case when a c.e.o.
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is created for i mean as a platform for the states to promote and push their agendas and there is a platform to tackle original issues i mean look at the case of india and pakistan despite of being rivals for for decades and even enemies they managed to actually become. members of the 2nd ization and it's another additional channel of communication another platform for them to come together and discuss things to sit together with other members ok also important players in the region and discuss. issues of common interest ok gentlemen there i'm afraid we must end discussion but he thanks me for being with us alexei clipped the coffee david r.s.a. and richard white's and thank you for watching don't forget you can see the program at any time just by going to the website at al-jazeera dot com for further discussion join us at all. facebook page at facebook dot com forward slash a.j.
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on. live from doha also coming up heads of state from iran or russia and china meet to discuss regional security the tanker incidents in the gulf could dominate talks . growing calls to find out who's responsible the un weighs in over the incident in the gulf of oman. and the deadly battle for land and water look at the heard a farm a conflict and rise in ethnic fighting. some breaking news from hong kong then the government has suspended a controversial bill that would allow extraditions to mainland china chief executive kerry law called a media conference to announce the reversal after saying earlier this week she would push ahead with the bill hundreds of thousands of people have protest again
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against it and more mass demonstrations were planned for sunday after repeated internal deliberations over the last 2 days i now announce that the government has decided to suspend the legislative amendment exercise restart all communication with all sectors of society do more explanation work and listen to different views of society i want to stress that the government is that opting an open mind to heat comprehensively different views in society toss the bill. it's called highlight is life for us in hong kong this will be seen as something of a climb down by the hong kong government and a partial victory at least for all of those protests who are out protesters who are out on the streets in hong kong over the past week. it will definitely be viewed that way no it's she said gary lam in that press conference within just the
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last hour that there are inadequacies that her government had when it was dealing with this law she says there was a miscommunication lack of communication and that there was such a division here in hong kong like what we saw you know within the last week hundreds of thousands coming out to the streets last sunday that we had those violent protests on wednesday so obviously something that really polarized this city so she said that there were inadequate and accuracies by her government she didn't really go as far as to apologize for it which she says she wants to correct that she said she was saddened by what she saw over the last couple of days here in her city so she wants to correct that she said and again as you said. this legislation this new extradition laws amendments to an extradition law will be put on pause as she said we don't know exactly when that's going to resume we know that they wanted to initially have this law passed in july so we'll have to see what happens but right now it's definitely. yes so what if things go from here then both
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sides as you say did the hong kong government is is going to put this to one side for now but they haven't given any time frame the protesters had planned the rally . for sunday but they they haven't got their complete objective yet have they. no they have and again this is maybe like a short term goal for them short term victory for them we're going to be hearing from a democratic member of the legislative council probably within the next half hour within this hour and then maybe a little bit later we'll hear from some of the protest leaders we know they're also going to hold a press conference yes as you said they were supposed to have another march on sunday tomorrow we know that they're planning for that what they're going to say in this announcement we don't know just yet but you know if if they do still hold something and i'm sure we'll hear this rhetoric in these press conferences it's a bit of a little victory lap for them absolutely because they were able to one of the you know near term goal was to delay at least delay this legislation proposed
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legislation that was being short tracked obviously they're all the goal is to kill it that hasn't happened yet but at least they were able to get the attention from the legislative council and it's now been suspended for the time being all right scott thanks for that scott had a life in hong kong. emily lau is a former democratic party member of the hong kong legislative council she joins us now via skype from hong kong thanks very much for being with us so you'll reaction to this announcement from the hong kong chief executive that they would extend. suspend the extradition bill for now. well of course she must do it unless you want to see 2000000 people in the streets tomorrow or whether they want to turn hong kong into tenement square like what happened 30 years ago with a massacre but the compete the police brutality that you people have been seeing
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the way the police treat. mostly peaceful demonstrators was very very discrete spot of people who want her to just kill the bill we don't want it we don't want this sort hanging over our heads and that is what it is that so i think many people are going to be very dissatisfied. from the point of view of the hong kong government and carry lam this as far as they see it is more a communication issue in the day they feel that they had they haven't put their point across effectively and they they they are telling people that. that their their fears are unjustified and their rights will will will be protected and they haven't said that they're going to they're going to get rid of this bill entirely what do you say to that well of course it's not a communication it's a fence fundamental issue of tool difference is there in hong kong we have the rule
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of law independent judiciary protection of human rights or what they may know in china is completely lawless that's that's why do people feel barry very unsafe if you send somebody there for trial you cannot guarantee the person is going to get a fair trial so it's not a communications problem what she said it's nonsense it's. so where does your movement go from here then as you said you haven't achieved your objective of killing the bill entirely there are these protests that were set to take place on sunday and the hong kong government hasn't given a timeframe as to what exactly they will do with this bill when when they might take it up again so what do you do now well of course the protests will continue tomorrow and i don't know how many hundreds or thousands will turn our sun maybe a bit relaxed that if she's not pushing ahead well a boat next week in the legislative council are going to read your fact of the
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matter is they have been negotiating with the mainland authorities but we're 20 years apart rendition arranged for and got nowhere and so so long as the 2 legal systems are so different so long as you cannot get a key person sent back would you have fair trial it's very difficult to have a deal i don't know it's not a communication problem i want to put to you again what the supporters of this bill are saying and that they said it would allow i mean as we've been saying the extradition of of criminal suspects to the mainland china and that it is important to ensuring that hong kong does not become a criminal refuge as as far as they see it and that the extradition laws like this are are common throughout the world and this is simply in line with all of that what do you say to that. well. if it is so simple as i said we all
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can government has been negotiating with the main authorities well put 20 years in what could not get done so and all of this time nobody has been running around screaming at how kabul is a haven for your tips instead everybody say oh we are thriving financial or business said the time any rest no problem at all i don't know what we're talking about so long as we cannot get it legal system to get the mainland chinese since there were very and more just more transparent it's very difficult for us to happen arrangement to send people there. do you fear as well that this is open to why did divide between hong kong and the beijing government and it raises bigger questions about beijing's whole influence on hong kong going forward well of course it does i mean they say that the beijing office shows that just across the boundary
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monitoring everything telling kerry lead what you say so when country 2 systems it's really crumbled and so you are all freedoms and the look you know all that's want really very concerned it's not just about hope promise of one country 2 systems seem to be slipping away and the one accord on your calibrated it is snowing precious little so that's why we have to link to the international community your immunity to speak out on our behalf. and what about the protests i mean is there is the sort of genie out of the bottle now so to speak that they as far as where where things go from here in the detail the other issues that they would be afraid to to to bring up now. well i think the protests assent never being afraid but what the well have seen in the last few days but you really are 1000000 people mob and also that tens of thousands of people surrounding a legislative problem so complex most of it was very peaceful but then when the
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police stopped the beating people actually killing them firing tear gas that makes the whole scene not habitable and of course that's why kerry lemon sum up its official with white shop and then fabricates that hong kong has to be reduced like this and that at the clubs that are good to speak with you emily lau thanks very much for being with us thank you. stan leaders from more than 30 countries are discussing economic and security challenges in the asian region that meeting follows talks on friday where tensions between iran and the u.s. took center stage following explosions on 2 tankers in the gulf of oman still no known who's responsible for those explosions but the u.s. believes it was iran tehran denies the accusation president trump said a grainy video released by the u.s. central command on thursday is proof of iran's involvement $100.00 ports from.
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what or who used to believe for the explosions on board 2 tankers in the gulf of oman the u.s. believes iran and they released this video purporting to show it on a sort of a gods removing an unexploded limpets mine from the japanese old kuta courageous the timestamp according to the americans shows the top and after the vessel scroll had been askew well iran didn't do it and do you know they did it because you saw that low i guess one of the mines didn't explode and it probably got essentially iran written all over it and you sort of voted no trying to take that mind off and successfully took that mind off the boat and that was exposed that was a boat that will damn. near didn't want the evidence left behind i guess they don't know that we have the 1st signal that we could be perfect in the dark that worked very well russia and germany say the video at least inconclusive.
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