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here in central mali militia connected to the full army and though gone ethnic groups have attacked each other's communities in recent months people here for lonnie herders now say stay in this camp and the edge of the town of 70 they left behind houses and made of bricks now living in shelters made of dry grass only the lucky ones were able to bring their livestock that they depend on for their survival many animals were killed or stolen in the conflict and the animals really to be taken out there on to the plains to be grazed but it's not just a. conflict in the north a lack of presence of the government based in the south that influx of harms have fueled the growing violence in mali center. about a $150.00 felonies were massacred this village 3 months ago. and nearly 100 guns were massacred in this village last week after the attacks villages deserted.
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and the camps for the displaced steadily grow people here need help and. when these people come here they need everything they lost everything it is often people who had to leave quickly and urgently they've lived everything behind everything was destroyed the needs are enormous especially those of children dozens of children have been killed in the massacres those that survived the attacks and lead to the camps and missed school. children's funders organized classes in tents like this one not just to resume education but also to provide a safe space for those who witnessed her reflect violence. you guys are all part of i mean i think with education we can minimize the trauma they come with really atrocious memories but since we started the classes and activities the education games it minimizes. before the conflict for money had as grazed cows
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for them bought food guns farmed. inside many of the camps 2 groups mix but outside once peaceful coexistence is falling apart malcolm web al jazeera the region mali. climate experts have released an image showing the rapid ice melting in greenland with said dogs appearing to walk on water they were on their way to retrieve measuring equipment in the northwest of the island scientists say it's not unusual but not unprecedented for this time of year. the paris air show is showing off all sorts of new technology including a successor to concorde the world's 1st supersonic passenger planes revolutionized air travel when they 1st flew 50 years ago but breaking the sound barrier broke the bank for the airlines which were never able to make a profit as the tash a bottle of the polls. blake shoal is preparing to bring back supersonic flight to
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the aviation world at the paris air show his company launched a project for a plane that could fly twice the speed of sound 50 years after concorde was designed with wind tunnels flight rules and drafting paper we now have carbon fiber composite vacherot and amex and new engines that allow supersonic flight to be accessible to tens of millions of people and their way that's economically and environmentally sustainable the company's raised more than $100000000.00 to build a $55.00 seats a plane that aide says would be affordable and produced ciro carbon emissions they hope to have a prototype flying by 2020 it's not the only supersonic aircraft project a number of u.s. startups airlines and even nasa are in the race but commercial aviation has been hit before it's been more than 15 years since the british french concorde stopped flying it was a feat of engineering it could only fly over the sea it supersonic speeds though
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because of the very noisy sonic boom and despite his popularity it never broke even financially challenges on their commute to world has changed his concorde. environment restrictions noise thing around airports have a much stricter so how does that fit in on the other hand compensate structures materials see if the modeling engine technology they've all improved. this could be interesting to see how it turns out if supersonic travel becomes a reality again the 7 and a half hour flight between paris new york would be hard and a new generation of people could experience travelling through the sky at breathtaking speed. al-jazeera paris germany has been false to everything plans for a new highway toll up to the use top court ruled it would discriminate against foreign drivers outside his face and you'll feel up to 100. $35.00 while those with cars
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veges did in germany get a tax reduction the european court of justice ruled the toll would have breached evils. you're watching after their i'm so whole rom the reminder of our top stories at least 2 people have been injured by a rocket targeting the headquarters of several fallen oil companies in iraq the rocket came down south of bands at a site to exxon mobil shell and other energy giants operate iraq's government says oil exports haven't been interrupted ball drop has officially launched his 2020 presidential reelection campaign he delivered familiar attacks all his political opponents the media and robert miller's investigation into russian meddling i see vowed to keep america great. we're going to keep it better than ever before. and that is why did i i stand before you to officially launch my campaign for a 2nd. and. the un has demanded
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a thorough independent investigation into the death of egypt's only democratically elected president mohamed morsi was he never regained consciousness after collapsing in court on monday he was buried in cairo after the government refused to allow a funeral in his hometown despite a request from his family but still gathered in morse's home province of shaquille to pay their respects hundreds prayed while surrounded by tight security in the village. opposition politicians in hong kong are pushing for a vote of no confidence against the city's leader carry the day after she apologized for trying to rush through changes to the extradition law members of the legislative council meeting for the 1st time since huge protests forced the government to suspend the bill the no confidence vote is bound to fail as the opposition don't have the majority in the legislature all pro democracy leaders have vowed to continue demonstrating until resigns. gunman have killed at least
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$41.00 people in separate attacks in the central of mali ethnic violence in the area in recent months the victims were mostly from ethnic areas. you investigate it will release her long awaited report into the murder of sunday journalist later on wednesday in early findings like this come our says the killing inside the saudi consular office in istanbul last october was premeditated all of those stories on our website al jazeera dot com they'll be more news here in half an hour with me but until then it's the stream to stay with us. to al-jazeera. we ask problems at the site of the instability is corruption we listen. or push the united states and president trump into conflict we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories that matter.
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imo they give you that and you're in the stream and i had to aberdeen i spat between 2 popular you tube or is raising questions about the platforms harassment policy today we ask our panel does youtube enable join the conversation tweet us or leave your comments on live. stream. june is pride month which means there is a good chance you'd notice rainbow flags and pride related hashtags popping up on new york this year world pride is taking place in new york city where the streets are literally being transformed to celebrate the event but the city hasn't always been a safe place for all g b t q communities in fact 50 years ago police raided the stonewall inn a local gay bar sparking both violent riots and the global gay rights movement at same time just this month the city's police commissioner offered an apology have
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a listen to what he said i do know what happened should not have happened yeah actions taken by the n.y.p.d. were wrong plain and simple yeah actions in the laws which is a scrimmage jory and oppression and for that i apologize we've been following gay rights movements across the globe and so far 2001000 has proven to be a big year in response to an international public backlash brunei announced it will no longer enact death penalty against the country's gay community not long after taiwan's parliament legalized same sex marriage making it the 1st country in the region to do so meanwhile as l.g.b. t.q. communities fear the possibility of rollbacks from the country's far right president brazil's supreme court voted to make homophobia a crime and in response to the recent news that butts want to will decriminalize homosexuality we heard from michael hugo daro an l g b t q activist on the board of
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directors for outright international here's what he had to say. a lot of parts of it and those countries in the especially in books on fighting so hard for those victory and not just them but across the continent of africa this means a lot to us this is our victory and this shows that we have been a separate people you know for years and years and years and years and years are generations of generations we've seen to give him a sept and some white people and this is africa and this is victory. so while activists are seeing victories in courts and countries around the world today we take a look at how communities continue the fight for safety online recently google employees have taken to using the hash tag no pride in white to criticize the company for failing to curb harassment on the platform. carlos maza host of the vox series strikethrough is routinely be objects of the right wing blogger stephen crowder's anger toward the liberal media last month maza tweeted
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a video compilation of all the bullying he says he's been subjected to by crowder you tube looked into the matter but ultimately decided to allow crowder's content to remain on the platform and now the decision is sparking a discussion about online hate speech and where platforms should draw the line so joining us to discuss this in new york city carlos maza he's a you tuber and host of vox media's strikethrough in syracuse new york carolyn hedges she's a professor at the new house school of public communications at syracuse university and in santa clara california vincent he's the director of journalism and media ethics at the mark willacy center at santa clara university welcome everyone to the stream of course carlos i want to start on my laptop on twitter with that compilation you made but 1st it started with this tweet sent last month i have pretty thick skin when it comes to online harassment but something has really been bothering me. to say since i started working at vox steven crowder has been making
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video after video debunking strikethrough your show every single video has included repeated over attacks on my sexual orientation and ethnicity i've been called. a list the queer a mexican in these videos get millions of views on you tube every time one gets posted i wake up to a wall of homophobic racist abuse on instagram and twitter. just reading it out loud you know i get chills i'm sorry that that had to happen to you and that has been happening to you talk to us about how this even got started. yeah i started working at box making the series in january of 2017 and i think i made my 3rd video i just noticed one day that the comments of the video were just full of. really unusual homophobic and resist harassment and quickly found out that it was because this guy had made one of his response videos ready and i didn't do anything about
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it because being the target of slurs like that is really embarrassing and humiliating so i just thought i don't want to freak out my employer and i want to draw attention to it so i just kept quiet and then he made 6 more over the course of 2 years last fall i got docs by one of his supporters which means one of the supporters found my personal phone number and then started spammy with text messages sort of know how they got it or who has it now but after that happened i reported to my employer and said it is this a charity concern and when that happens i look into whether or not you had any policies that might protect me from this kind of thing and much to my surprise you tube has made the harassment and the hate speech policy on the books pretty clear language that just doesn't force so i started independently reporting the video see to nothing happened for months it may be more these videos i keep waking up to more harassment and abuse on every social media profile and then a couple weeks ago it was like on my couch behind me eating halo top feeling very
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frustrated and decided i'm going to edit this stuff together and tweet about you 2 it's not an oarsman not because i think you're with this guy but i'm angry with a company that clears that claims to care at all about group people and doesn't force the basic policies there were creators need to operate safely on the block when the coliseum into the dock thing and the. attempts behind that from people who follow crowd are we've made several attempts to reach steven crowder on various platforms but we never got more than an automated response but he did post a response on his heating paint late last month so have a listen to this. i've been accused of playing a part or this person carlos maza having been docs i have always condemned and continue to condemn discourage any and all forms of doc singer target harassment of anyone online ok i've been consistent so please don't do that here i know some of you will get obviously mad maybe
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a little enraged some of the information about here but please don't do that would be above that if there's any proof that i've actively encourage people to doc's this person or anyone i will profusely apologized any proof here's the thing of the 10s of millions of cumulative plays on our rebuttals to vox on this channel every single one of them is about criticizing their ideas or incorrect assumptions every instance has been about fighting bad information with better information now carlos maza. is upset ok listen have i ever called you carlos the gala tina host at fox yes of course but that's from the real thing. i think he calls it friendly ribbing i think you know and carlos i could see your face as you know we were kind of listening to some of that and i don't want to draw too much attention or interpretation from it but you know joking not joking baiting not baiting and the purpose of the motivation is obviously hard to really know but i'm curious for your
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thoughts carlos from what i understand you tube's response has been chaotic and confounding it's confounding to suggest that this is all just jokes as well as we just heard crowder do but i understand that their decision came 6 days after you flagged their harassment to you tube and you know this harassment had been going on for years we have some people on twitter like mark dice and others saying meanwhile carlos maza encourages people to assault right wingers by throwing milkshakes on them and make them afraid to go out in public f. why i mean he's referencing a tweet where you said milkshake them all term that i had to look up and understand but but in all seriousness what do you make of this kind of counterattack this idea that it was a joke and where the line is blurred how do you determine what's a joke and what's not and was the milk shake a joke. yeah so this is the strategy i've been studying right wing media for. 7 years now for 8 years ever since i left college professionally and this is a strategy that happens anytime anyone brings up
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a good bit of criticism of bigotry or bad behavior on the rate which is the rate just going to argue with a 1000000 distractions meant to put the person who brought the criticism on defense so my life since i brought this up has been people going through old tweets and making fake photos of me sending fake nudes ready to my boss calling in death threats all of the same purpose which is to get me to overreact about stuff and change my criticism so it was focus but my beef isn't with steven crowder maybe because i'm with mark dice maybe because i'm with any of these people who are getting about behavior my beef is and has always been with you which is the company that claims that you're about to be people as for. the joking you know i edited and posted a compilation of a crowd or is that about me for 2 years i want anyone to see we're not friends i've never spoken to him i've never mentioned him in a video or missions or us meant we have no good blood between us he has been unsolicited calling me a list be clear and an anchor baby making fun of my voice and my body in
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a way that i speak for years that's not been the writing and the thing is you tube knows it's not friendly ribbing knows no serious person watching this thinks that he was making a friendly joke with one of his gay friends everyone knows his intent was to humiliate me so that too is a distraction and the problem that you tube has is that you have a very clear case right now someone who has repeatedly over the years violated their policy by engaging in the repeated use of race is somehow less so i'm glad you said that because of course that is the point that i think is really at the heart of all of this is whether or not it's a violation of policy parallel and civil i want to bring you in here on this because of as carl says said several times he doesn't necessarily blame the people that do this he doesn't blame crowder he's blaming you tube for allowing this to happen carolyn what's your thought on that. well it does say in the policy that if it's harmful or if it's harassment that that would be grounds for them to remove the only problem there is with the terms and conditions that means that they could
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not that they will write so that the very you know fine line that we need to understand here as we you know as we talk about these things because at the end of the day you tube is really looking out for you to what is going to garner the most what's going to garner the most advertising and so for me when i look at this. pretty tragic form of bullying that's happening by. bike rather and i'm thinking to myself this is a very clear harassment situation and you know you tube should be acting accordingly however because it's labeled as satire behind it's labeled in a way that he says well i'm a comedian so therefore this is comedic and this is for effect that somehow gives them this guy that allows them to to say well you know we're not going to take everything away will be monetized and i think from both sides left and right they found this to be an inadequate response rate me people on the left are saying it's not enough people on the right are saying how dare they and i think that the
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problem is that this is a place where this type of thing can and will happen and caroline as you were speaking on i saw just i want you to jump out if i can very quickly just you know with regards to the decision to do monetize i know that came hours after you tube published a blog post detailing their own plans to kind of crack down on inappropriate content if you will you know whether it promotes segregation or discrimination based on gender religion or sex and one of our comments that's coming in from our community subaru is saying from a g florus if the platform emphasizes free speech as instrumental to its business model it should follow the same speech laws in which it operates u.s. laws ruled by the supreme court protects offensive speech certain speech such as targeted harassment inciting violence is regulated and when it comes to regulation when it comes to legislation we heard you know from from caroline that this is this is tragic and should be somehow controlled what are your thoughts and where do we draw the line where why is this continuing to happen to people like
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a carlos. so i want to take a small step back and look at the bigger picture here because one of the things that happens in an individual episode is we we look at doc particular frame and what actually happened then but there's a bigger problem you know that you do have an all of the blood from companies which is that technology companies and their technology companies that are literally mediating the public's fear 25 years ago it wouldn't have been that easy for this to happen what was happening now that we've got carlos maza humor and you're talking about stephen carter this wound up happened the way it would would have there was offensive speech all the time happening in private places in a bar i could go up to a body and somebody called me to get away from the country all of those things could have happened but it would have been in a way that wouldn't stand what's happening here on you tube as well as twitter as well as facebook is that that is that is a legit demise ation of what is public what is offensive behavior what does he hate speech and what is borderline like how do you go under the radar for long enough
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that you want to get called out and there's a lot of. these companies that are actually mediating the public sphere and while the good angels in this odd being actually encouraged because lots of good things have come out of social media it does also atomizing the batting just enough and it does let's creative people have those inventions to go and create those kinds of programs that will call out certain types of people and these people know that that technology based phones with it i'll go to make approach to automation content tell the difference between intent and context and fact it just won't happen. i have seen i have seen crowd as we do i don't think it looks comedic he says it's comedic now if you start saying it's comedic as a reaction to carlos is accusations that is to me trying to take advantage of the system i don't think carlos show. comedic and he is part of.
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for him it's not comedic that has to be taken i just might not get it peaking complained all to listen to each dave being dehumanised in some way. show and like i like the point that you're making there because i wanted to bring this up as you were speaking basically you mentioned the borderline content and discovering what that is and how we decide what that is take a look at my screen here this is you tube's official blog and i had mentioned that they had put this out as responses when say june 5th and they say that their work has focused on 4 pillars of investing in their policies or resources and products to live up to their responsibility and one of those pillars is reducing the spread a borderline content of course the question assume intent is what does this mean but i want to bring in a comment from someone else that asked what this means for the wider landscape of
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people because we got a video comment from conrad thompson conrad goes by the pronouns they and them and conrad asks a question to you carlos that i give you and they say that they got their opinion from a pot slime youtube video so this is an idea that's out there have a listen to conference issue of whether we should be platform not censor but the platform stephen crowder has surprising lead to much infighting within the left the crux of the issue is whether by advocating for the platform or anyone the left may be opening itself up to censorship by the monstrous mega corporation that is you tube google alphabet we can all agree that you tube is too big and too powerful you tube and also to media for that matter throttle to monetize and delete leftist content all the time and have been for a long time carlos what do you think about you tube silencing the far left are some of my comrades justified in fearing corporate. yeah it's
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a great question and it's an example that i grapple with all the time my frustration with that is that. you know this is true of any rule of any policy to restrict behavior there's a risk of the policy being misused or used in a way that targets vulnerable groups that is not a defense of having no rules like i don't have a bunch of trust that police officers can fairly force the law but i'm not an anarchist because i think this lucian is ready to advocate for the air force and all those laws so the alternative to trying to restrict some speech is that you too let's he speech run amok and the numbers alter that is not people and bullies learn to coexist in peace if they were people and people of color get tired of suffering and rave the platform if you look at 14 and that's what happens you end up having a playground that is run slowly by the bullet so yet there's a risk of of overdoing it or misfiring the solution is to hold you to accountable and especially when there are public facing corporate values claim to care about
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the people ready there should be some connect between what the states advertisers and how they've forced their polls and on that point carolyn i'm curious you know we have a lot of comments that are coming in live on you tube. that are addressing something that we haven't explicitly really mentioned which is money. this guy on on our live chat saying you tube is a business it is aiming to get that sweet ad revenue and controversy like this drives people to the site i'm curious caroline when you you see that comment in kind of a focus on money there and then you see a tweet like this from frankie saying i've been very clear in many threads surrounding this issue between crowder and mazar that i don't think de platforming should be the baseline for addressing these issues i think there needs to be a thoughtful and teared system for dealing with the level of agree just as obviously it's all relative you know someone might find one thing more egregious but what is the role of money here and is you to capitalizing off of controversy i always tell my students follow the money right i mean that. what this is
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unfortunately all about when we think about you know demonetized thing crowd are for his offensive language that actually showed an uptick in sales for some of his hateful paraphernalia that he sells on his site so money is at the heart of all of this for better or for worse for better because that how including sears make money using you tube for words and the fact that they the more people that we have going there the more likely they are to keep someone being more hateful things going on and to carlos's point about how about you 2 being an advocate for the l g d l g t l b g t q community as well they really are providing kind of a contrary position to the public and the reason for that again is because of the money if we were to all say hey let's just not news you tube let's just all agree that no one in the world will use you tube then something you know could
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potentially change however that's not a likely scenario i mean they are one of the biggest companies in the world they are the 2nd largest search and we go there to search for recipes so my point is that in response to that comment that's what i'm going to follow now go ahead. well sorry just kill them some time for you guys your point there to defend her point. so i didn't know i actually agreed with caroline and i want to go deep on the point and go full what she thinks about this that is a money thing that's in the picture of full media companies a little it's not like television journalism did not use that age media approach to do that i could eat things up all the time so that is not new watching new. technology companies that have a global platform and to trying to build a global policy structure even though different countries different cultures have different sensibilities on what is hate what does a french what is actually a slow and what is not to slow what's the context in. which something actually
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incited weiland is that this gov inciting violence is a risk of getting docs to these are things that are not similar across the world and yet we we want to run technology companies as a business if you have to pick up the moderation policies thing across the world in each particular company so they have if you notice they don't have a hate speech policy for india to do to a wide hindu muslim weiland they have a ph beach policy period they've got it across the world and a continent moderation teams ought trained to go off and look at actual context but they're trying as best as possible to global policy structure that can automate as much of the detection and that's where the problem comes and then it gets escalated to a bunch of human behavior and people like carlos can complain well it's oh i'm going to alter my eyes the best they can and that is not looking good one word one in my opinion one thing i think to the problem with that is that it's expensive right so the technology can't keep up with the sophistication of how people are posting
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things the subtleties of sarcasm subtleties you know and the other things we've discussed and in addition if you're talking about those moderators that are they are going through video after video and there was a recent exposé about the facebook moderating company that you know people are going through post-traumatic stress syndrome after viewing videos that take their human toll and who are and when you're talking about i mean actual and when we sorry to interrupt you but i just want to get this in here you know we've heard you know different people mention carlos you know situation we focused on that but there are of course many others and i just wanted to share lindsey ahmed who's the host and creator of queer kid stuff on you tube had this experience let's take a listen. hi my name is lindsay and i run a you tube channel called queer kid stuff where i make l g b t q plus and social justice videos for kids and families i've been on you tube for about 3 years now and pretty much since day one i've faced daily harassment it's actually gotten so
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bad that about a year or 2 ago i disabled every single comment section on every video that i have uploaded to you tube it's been a really big problem for a long time and you tube doesn't seem to be doing very much about it at all i think that i would love to see from you tube to make this change happen is to hire queer people and people of color in their executive positions to really look at the problem from the inside and get solutions from the community carlos is not a priority for you in terms of trying to solve this kind of thing yeah i mean i've seen a lot of these videos and their shows incredible and i've also seen a bunch of videos reach millions of views by just mocking the show and the most basic bigoted sense and there's an issue about having critical people of color on advisory boards but this other issue that we're not talking about is that it's not just a just school difficulty for you to take this on you tube financially benefit stop
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it they drag it speech and harassment is incredibly in gauge and so you built an entire ecosystem all right bigots who use hate speech to garner millions of views and then are you to reward those bigots by recommending new and new people to it and building their audiences it's not that you tube is this passive carlos' negligent act or i think they're actively involved in the promotion because the entire right i can hear what you're saying i have the positive there because unfortunately we are out of time but i think your point was crystal clear on that a big thank you to our gas and of course our community who joined us in all places including your chance until next time we'll see a moment. in a war torn between you know a magic documents the stories of the survivors recording back hopes and dreams for
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