tv NEWSHOUR Al Jazeera June 19, 2019 6:00pm-7:00pm +03
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just to give you an indication about the extent of the strained relations a few days ago crown prince mohammed bin so many that interview to the saudis paper . issued. a veiled warning to turkey about the case of. this case should not be used by other countries for political gains and that whoever has information should be giving evidence to saudi arabia and saudi arabia would be willing to look into all the details so i think from our own words definitely turkey is going to move towards the direction of asking the international community for more pressure about exactly the following things what happened of the consulate the building that you can see behind me on the 2nd of october when it was about. to receive some documents for his upcoming wedding and he never emerged from the building number 2 the whereabouts of the building the turkish police and the turkish investigators have been saying over the last few
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weeks that they believe that the body was either immersed into acid or destroyed in an oven that was built inside the consul's president so these questions they will have to be one of the key problems between saudi arabia and turkey is took insisting on who gave the order to kill you because from a turkish perspective they believe this is someone who is really the loans of the of the of the saudis chain of command let me ask you about a few things that are mentioned in the report now hashim this special rapporteur war found that both the investigation of requests conducted by saudi arabia and turkey also failed she said to meet international standards regarding the investigation into unlawful deaths so she is somewhat pointing a finger here at turkey saying that they didn't do the investigation correctly what access what sort of access did the terrorists have to the consulate what sort of
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evidence did they come up with do we know that. well basically when i was here she was denied access to the to the to the saudi consulate and she was asking the saudi government for more evidence the saudi government came back saying that the 21 people were detained and 11 people were charged on 5 of them could could face death penalties but then said that she tries need to be on the proceedings need to be public to complying with international standards and she expressed her concerns about those proceedings not really respecting the those standards here in turkey she managed to meet with the. intelligence chief she met with. the. prosecutor in turkey and she met with government officials she managed to have
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access to the old you tape she managed to have access to the audiotape that was. shared by the turkish intelligence with some gruesome details about the final moments of the of the and she built on that. it was the same audiotape that was shared intelligence agencies worldwide and i think it was the cornerstone of the assessment by the cia. that they believe that the order to kids about. should have come from prince mohammed mohammed. the turkish government has been providing significant information to the to the united nations or to many recommendations but right for example we should talk about you can hear me just to pick up on that the tech ish government you say has been providing evidence to the united nations but as jane said the u.n.
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until now. somewhat dragged its feet in asking in initiating an international investigation into this because the secretary general has said for instance that there has been no request nor fishel request from turkey from another country into an investigation will this now change with this report will the turks ask and demand an international investigation by the united nations. most likely this is going to be the case asking for an international investigation because they have been saying this over the past few months number 2 they have been saying that they would like to see the. members of the his squad to be extradited to turkey if saudi arabia is not willing to. charge them and provide more details about who gave the order to kill. but 40 there is an other political angle to this story which is basically they are waiting to see what will be the reaction in the
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united states of america turkey has been putting more pressure on president trying to to come out and take action against against crown prince mohammad. and as you remember we've heard from the u.s. administration strong statements denouncing the murder without further details about who has been implicated in the killing and whether the united states of america is willing to take further actions in the near future if the united nations rebel tour determines with a certain level of certainty that the killing comes from the highest echelons of the saudi government when you look at the recommendations you get the following details that this was a premeditated killing saudi officials were involved in the killing of this is something definitely that should be coming from the highest. authorities in saudi arabia saudi arabia in the past was saying that they sacked. syria the intelligence chief and they sacked bonnie he's
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a top aide to prom prince mohammed bin said that but that is a general sentiment here in turkey that these are not the real people who gave the order they believe this is something really high in the and when you say high in the saudi authorities we're talking about as if back to rule in saudi arabia crown prince mohammed bin so i think this is going to give the turkish government the man to to move forward and the united nations of the security council for an action as far as the murder of them is concerned thank you for that hashem had a life for. in a stumble by the author of the reports the un special rapporteur agnes column r. is giving her 1st television interview since the release of the report to us here at al-jazeera and that's expected to happen here in about 90 minutes or so you can watch the full interview live on al-jazeera with the un special rapporteur or an extrajudicial killings agnes column off after the release of her report on the murder of jamal let's now speak to matthew brize a who is a former u.s.
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ambassador and senior fellow at the atlantic council's you gracious center his live from istanbul thank you so much for being with us. i believe you've been able to hear the highlights from this report that the key points a much anticipated report on the murder of jamal khashoggi what do you make of what you've heard and do you think this will lead to any sort of accountability now. well it is quite a dramatic set of facts that james bays was just reading off and it. really does blow a lot of the water of the saudi government's official account until now that it was sort of a rogue operation gone wrong or an interrogation gone wrong this was i mean this was clearly a premeditated murder planned carefully much more carefully than we had heard of to date and so what it all boils down to is the saudi government must come up with an explanation for who ordered this who is responsible and where is the body it's it's
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in comprehensible to me as a former diplomat that any government that 1st of all would murder their own citizen murder their own citizen in a diplomatic facility as well but then not even conduct a a significant or call for a significant follow on investigation to clear its name if people at the very highest level of government are not culpable so i think this report really builds and restores momentum for justice to be done unfortunately the whole case of cultural jihad had left the front pages of newspapers for the last few months that washington post has tried to to keep up the drumbeat for you know for its own former columnist but this restores that momentum right what the specific steps will you know what the specific steps will be depends a lot on the united states and that that's exactly what i'm going to ask you next see all eyes now on the united states and the trumpet ministration which you know
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we've heard every cent lead that it's been pressing saudi arabia to show tangible progress towards holding to account those responsible for joshua just killing before the 1st anniversary of his. do you think this will change add more pressure on the trump administration to put more pressure on the saudis even. it will add pressure political pressure and the way washington works is that the congress is pushing president bush is the president the congress can demand that the president act according to existing legislation and the president that happened the congress a few months ago demanded that the trump administration release a report saying who ordered the murder and president simply ignored that that law. second thing the congress can do is it can pass new legislation and it did that again several months ago to block the u.s. support for the saudi and u.s. military operations in yemen and president vetoed it so the u.s.
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president has obviously a huge amount of political power but this issue is starting to i think whittle away at his power as even republicans in congress are starting to find veto proof legislative initiatives in other words things that the congress can do that president trump cannot veto to compel the president to state what the u.s. intelligence community has already concluded that they concluded almost certainly that the crown prince ordered the murder why hasn't the president done that until now do you get do you think this report will change that will make a difference. well i think from the very start president trump wanted to sweep this whole issue under the rug and he's deceased stalled and stonewalled because of a couple of things one there's speculation that maybe he has some huge business interests in saudi arabia possible but i think that's that's not the main driver of the main driving force is that he his administration and his son in law have staked their entire middle east strategy such as it is on not only partnership with saudi
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arabia including to contain iran but the personal partnership between presidential son in law jared cushion or and crown prince mohammed bin solomon so if the ministration now says what virtually the whole world believes to be the case of this murder was ordered at the very top of saudi arabia then the relationship of course between crown prince of mahmoud and solomon is finished and the u.s. foreign policy is adrift in the middle east and i thank you very much for speaking to us matthew bryza from the atlantic council joining us there from istanbul let's return to our diplomatic editor jane spays if you're just joining us we've been covering of course this breaking news story and the release of the un special rapporteur war next for judicial killings a report on the matter of saudi. james just remind of our view is the main points in report and what she is recommending. well
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she has concluded that saudi arabia was responsible for the murder she said it was premeditated murder she has no doubt about that that this was carefully planned it blows away saudi arabia's cover story it's worth following the comments of the ambassador making it clear that she hasn't really uncovered any new evidence here she's just telling us about evidence that has been around for some considerable time because most of her conclusions come from those tapes from those recordings of what happened in the consulate obtained by turkish an intelligence so be aware these shocking things where this covering right now turkish intelligence of known about them u.s. intelligence have known about them for months and months and months and u.s. administration has known about all of this for months and months and months and hasn't relate this to the public or it seems to capitol hill so i think that is one of the places where the fresh pressure will go she is recommending now that
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international inquiry how exactly would that what james we're talking about universal jurisdiction how would an international inquiry work. well she says that the saudi investigation is. or appears to be a form of a whitewash she's also pretty critical about the turkish investigation so she says there should be an international investigation she says the 1st step would be for the secretary general of the united nations to launch a criminal investigation he said all along he can't do that he doesn't have the power and you have to be referred by one of the bodies of the united nations the security council the general assembly the human rights council or one of the states involved for example turkey which has called for an international inquiry but has never actually picked up the phone to the secretary general to call for him to set one up she says none of that is needed she says he can do it on his own she also refers to
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a concept in international justice called universal jurisdiction which if a crime is serious enough and this certainly has happened in some countries in the world then another country a 3rd party country could launch its own proceedings this of course is i suspect going to be worrying some saudi officials that when they get on planes to go on visits to countries even the crown prince himself could be detained and questioned about mr is killing so i think the idea of bringing up the idea of this concept which is not an entirely tested concept universal jurisdiction that is something that will worry that will worry the saudis to quite interesting that you know another country could actually need an investigation what do you think the reaction is going to be now as one of the previous guests mentioned there the democrats shoji issue had somewhat disappeared from the headlines but now we have this report
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we have the g. 20 summit coming up how do you think well leaders will be reacting to it now. well i think in saudi arabia they will be very dismayed by this they clearly knew she was coming out with an inquiry she'd been working on this for 5 months but the conclusions are particularly damning for saudi arabia i think they had been hoping this would slowly die down they'd be hope they've been hoping for some rehabilitation as you say in knowing day's time in soccer in japan g. 20 leaders are going to be meeting now saudi arabia is the only arab country that is a member of the g 20 and the saudi crown prince is expected to be attending that meeting he would have been hoping i think to be welcomed more warmly than before by other world leaders who we've seen in the past somewhat shunned him after mr khashoggi murder will they shake his hands now this is this whole issue has been shaken up
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again by this damning result of this inquiry i think bad news and bad timing for saudi arabia indeed thank you very much james spader diplomatic editor live for us at the united nations and we'll continue to bring you reactions to agnes kamaz report here on al-jazeera and the author of the reports new un special rapporteur herself will be giving her 1st television interview since the release of her report to us here on al-jazeera that will happen in about 60 minutes or so and you can watch the full end to view right here on al-jazeera with agnes khan a mom on her report on the murder of saudi generals jamal khashoggi. sent to other world news now any emir of kuwait is making his 1st state visit to iraq since saddam hussein's forces invaded in 1990 mommy john john joins us live
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from baghdad a very significant visit what are the expectations. that's right fully well the american way chips about how much a sock arrived just a little over an hour ago he was greeted at the airport by iraqi prime minister out of the job demanded the we are told he is going to be meeting with the prime minister he's also going to be meeting with the president about him saw that this is significant because it is the 1st such state visit by kuwait's leader to it up he has been to it up in the past his 1st time here was for a meeting in 2012 but this is the 1st state visit where he is the head of an official delegation from kuwait of course kuwait's emir is one of the most respected diplomats in this region now of course they are going to be discussing bilateral relations there have been many attempts the past few years for kuwait to try to step up its investment in iraq to try to help with the reconstruction of mosul after the defeat of eisel and other such projects but really the top of the
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agenda one thing that's been made incredibly clear by everybody involved all the parties involved in this visit is that the top on the agenda is to try to discuss how to deescalate tensions between the u.s. and iran of course iraq is stuck in the middle between their 2 biggest allies the u.s. and iran and all you have to do is look at the statement that was issued by kuwait official news agency yesterday when they were talking about this visit and they said that shifts about his visit comes amid rising and unprecedented tensions and developments witnessed by the region particularly the act which targeted the safety of oil supplies through destruction and strikes on the oil and commercial vessels we expect there will be some type of press briefing several hours from now and we'll know more about what precisely was discussed what plans may be on the agenda going forward thank you for that moment for us in baghdad. and saying in iraq at least 2 people have been injured in southern iraq by rocket targeting foreign oil companies iraq's national oil company says production hasn't
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been affected by the attack south of basra several foreign oil companies including shell and exxon mobil have their headquarters in the area exxon says it plans to evacuate 20 of its staff. iran's president has on rouhani says scaling back his country's commitments under the 2050 nuclear deal is quote the minimum measure is taking on rising tensions with the united states and his defense minister rejects allegations that iran is behind the attacks on 2 oil tankers in the gulf of oman last week a maritime a dispute said video released by the u.s. navy that it says links iran to the incident america says the vote see next to the tanker is iranian home when i speak to mohammad marandi who's head of the american studies department at the university of tehran thank you so much for being with us when giving iran's version of what happened in the gulf of oman last week the defense minister said that another boat an american boat he suggested was already
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at the scene before the iranian navy came to the rescue of the same as from the tank what evidence says iran have that this was an american vote. well the iranians have a strong presence in the persian gulf as well as in the gulf of oman and the strait of hormuz as well and the attack took place very close to the iranian. into iranian waters so obviously the iranians have a great deal of information about what goes on and this is one of the interesting things about the whole affair that the attacks took place so close to the iranian to iranian waters which is itself suspicious but more importantly the the america the americans claimed that these were mines but the owner of the ship says that they were not mines they were projectiles that came from the air and then
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later on the americans claim that to you ronnie in military boats works swiftly moving towards the ships that were struck right before they were struck but that the fire that some american drone allegedly. but why would the iranian naval ships be swiftly moving towards these boats if there are mines on them so the inconsistency isn't in the american story are significant and the pictures in the video shows nothing and also the fact that the attack took place an hour or 2 before the japanese prime minister was going to visit the leader ayatollah khomeini also makes it even more suspicious especially since the chips were linked to japan and since was that this was the 1st time the job of a japanese prime minister visited iran in 41 years then the timing indeed was quite interesting not president rouhani is saying that pulling out of some of the commitments under the nuclear deal is a minimum measure he says that it's that iran is is going to take what would be
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a maximum measure how far is iran prepared to take this. well the most important thing that we have to keep in mind among all these issues is that the united states is waging war against ordinary iranians the united states is trying to terrorize the iranian population through economic warfare they're trying to create as much suffering as possible this is the intention of the united states and we know this is how the united states plays the united states' support of the extremists in syria the united states supported the taliban and al qaeda in afghanistan and we saw what it did in libya in venezuela and of course most importantly in yemen how the united states and the saudis have starved the population but the americans are targeting ordinary iranians in order to bring the country to its knees and the iranians are saying well if this is how it's going to
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be if the americans are going to violate the agreement and the europeans despite pretty words they're going to obey trump then there's no reason why you run should be abide by its side of the bargain and therefore the iranians although they waited for. full year of the shown strategic patience to show the international community that the rhine ians are the ones who are abiding by their commitments and the iranians are the ones who are trying to diffuse tension in this region. and they're showing the international community the americans that are asking now after all the year the iranians are saying well slowly we're going to have to discontinue our commitments and this can go on until ultimately iran leaves the way or alternatively you run may even leave the n.p.t. thank you for speaking to us i'm ahmed marandi from the university of tehran joining us there from iran's capital thank you for your time.
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watching the news hour on al-jazeera with me fully back people are in mind iran main story this hour the un special rapporteur or an extrajudicial judicial killings agnes' column on has released a report holding saudi arabia responsible for the murder of journalist jamal high shoji the report details taped conversations about body disposal in the moments before the show g.'s our arrival at the saudi consulate in istanbul mcconnell ma is calling for a further investigation of the individual responsibility of saudi officials at the highest level including crown prince mohammed bin some and she says the killing is an international crime with universal jurisdiction. donald trump has launched his campaign for reelection next year by attacking is political opponents and the media white house correspondent kimberly hellcat heard what else the president had to say at his supporters rally in orlando florida. some started
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lining up at the rain and heat more than a day to advance just to attend donald trump's official 2020 presidential campaign kickoff most for exactly what you'd expect to find at a truck rally white older conservative voters but there were a lot of exceptions like jessica newberry i'm 100 percent trump supporter and yes i'm a lesbian and yes i have biracial kids go to rome. it's conducive to making money the people want to live. for free i think he's going to win the presidency or get reelected richard. pryor. support between democrats and republicans is almost an even split in florida the state will be critical if trump hopes to capture the white house again in 2020 i stand before you to officially launch my campaign for a 2nd term as president i ended. the campaign's efforts to register
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independent voters are more sophisticated than a 2016 trumps also counting on his advantage as the incumbent we've really done it and we've rebuilt our military are still in the process we take good care of our vets we've cut the hell out of regulations you know i've cut more regulations then any president in the history of our country regardless of the leg of their tour the whole show worrying signs like if the election were held today against former democratic vice president joe biden trump would lose and despite a strong economy trumps approval rating is at just 44 percent much of the country loathes his policies and continues to protest his rallies that is a la the fake news back there that's. trump is also under investigation by democrats energized by their takeover of the house of representatives last year . still among trump supporters none of that seems to matter donald trump is
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counting on supporting. and next day is still within 16 months away it's like donald trump is traveling to miami for a high dollar fundraiser the minimum price of admission course $100000.00 can really help get houses here on the orlando what i list and speak to scott lucas who's the founder and editor of the news website worldwide view and he also joins us from birmingham in. birmingham thank you so much for being with us scott no because what did you make of of what we heard from president trying did you hear anything new in this campaign from the same script same trump. there were no new policies there won't be what i think we're going to see are 3 things that he put out last night one is is going to say the economy is the best ever he's going to bash immigrants and he's going to declare that we need
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tariffs and trade wars i think the last 2 anti immigrant rhetoric and tariffs and trade wars are vote losers so the key thing is beyond the bluster of donald trump does the american economy continue to grow or does it hit obama because it's really running on credit with the largest federal government deficit in history if the economic bubble continues he can get away with this if it doesn't i think you'll struggle even with some of his base on foreign policy since coming to power trumps foreign policy has consisted in overturning traditional american foreign policy rhetoric and actions he moved the u.s. embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem he withdrew from the iran nuclear deal. started a trade war with china do you think all these foreign policy shifts that we've seen in the last 2 years will work in his favor as he seeks reelection.
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well i haven't worked in the world's favor her i mean let's be honest donald trump is running a family and friends foreign policy whether it's support for the israeli prime minister or support for saudi arabia's crown prince whether it's his embrace of lot of milk or turn u.s. agencies certainly are very worried by that but is that top of the list for the american public i think at the end of the day the old mantra from the 1990 s. it's the economy stupid it's going to be a more important than israel or russia but what about the issue of iran just coming back to foreign policies this maximum pressure campaign against tehran and the administration not seems to be wrestling with what to do with iran next what do you think is going to do as he's going to be seeking reelection as he's seeking reelection will it take it to the next level or is what we're seeing these tensions just rhetoric for now no interest he's actually already backing away a lot of people missed an interview he did on monday with time magazine where he
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said he thought the. explosions on the tankers last week were in a minor incident and where he said that iran was becoming less hostile to the united states so i think the pentagon of the state department are very concerned about iran but i think donald trump in part because the election he's going to pull back as far as possible from a military confrontation and one last question scott lucas interesting during his rally yesterday he said very little about his potential opponents and instead much of the focus was again on hillary clinton why do you think that is and who do you think he would want as his opponent in 2020. there because it was the reason why i mentioned hillary clinton knows it's like throwing meat to the base it's like you know he knows he'll say or name of the water up and he'll try to create this frenzy i thank you reza good point though hillary clinton's long gone so does donald trump and he did mention the former vice president joe biden does that become the punching bag that he can use i think if you have
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a nother candidate on the democratic side a little bit of war and people will hear us trust finds more difficulty to give that sort of figure to try to propel him to the presidency the way that he did with clinton 3 years ago thank you so much for your views scott lucas from the university of birmingham joining us there from birmingham thank you for your time we appreciate it. now to africa and victims of interethnic attacks in mali are demanding better protection to prevent what they say are massacres entire villages have been wiped out in the war between the magic herders and farmers trying to protect their crops some survivors have been telling our reporter malcolm webb how they had to run for their lives. on a society is that she liked life in her village before armed men set it on fire. she's just 7 years old he shot her neighbors and stole cows she fled with her family a lot of. the work was very difficult it lasted 5 days we had nothing to eat or
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drink we carried what we could it's but the militia found us again and took everything so we arrived here with only the clothes we were wearing. i said and her family remain nearly 50000 people who fled violence here in central mali militia connected to the fulani and gone ethnic groups have attacked each other's communities in recent months. people here for lonnie herders now they stay in this camp and the edge of the town of severity they left behind the houses and hunts made of bricks now living in shelters made of dry grass. only the lucky ones were able to bring their livestock they depend on for their survival many animals were killed or stolen in the conflict and the animals really need to be taken out there on to the plains to be grazed but it's not say. conflict in the north and the lack
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of presence of the government based in the south and then influx of homs have fueled the growing violence in mali center about 150 felonies were massacred this village 3 months ago. and nearly 100 guns were massacred in this village last week after the attacks villages deserted. and the camps for the displaced steadily grow people here need help and. when these people come here they need everything they lost everything it is often people who had to leave quickly and urgently they've left everything behind everything was destroyed the needs are enormous especially those of children dozens of children have been killed in the massacres those that survived the attacks and lead to the camps to miss school. children funders organized classes in tents like this one not just to resume education but also to provide
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a safe space for those who witnessed her reflect violence. you guys are all i mean i think with education we can minimize the trauma they come with really atrocious memories but since we started the classes and activities the education games it minimizes. before the conflict for money had as graze cows for them bought food on the farm. inside many of the comes to groups mix but outside who wants peaceful coexistence is falling apart malcolm webb al-jazeera mopti region molly forrest johnson is leading the race in the ruling conservative party to become britain's next prime minister the probe rec center is promising to leave the e.u. in october come what may be vodka reports on the contenders the latest t.v. debate you just raised on the dance hall if there is a guarantee was there was a time to kick off any of voices and opinions but all of these contenders say
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