current situation as it is now is only creating further instability in this region still ahead on al-jazeera techie's president hits out i believe gyptian government over the death of its former nurse they will have a live reaction from istanbul plus. it's been more than 15 years. from paris to new york in less than 4 hours supersonic jets could be back. whilst quite a few provinces in china recover from recent flooding i think the next wonderful is going to be somewhere else to be honest you can't really tell from the crowd on satellite picture but from the forecast model the generation of rain to come is north has to shanghai back along the yangtze it's still very cloudy to south very

humid the potential for occasional showers is still there but it's not the concentration that is still further north in fact there's quite a gap in the rainfall forecast for the surface and that might be coincident with what appears to be the moment rather failing monsoon that sort of means of value showers that went out to the very dry part of this part of india but then where's the rest of the bay of bengal there's been some pretty big downpours in the northeast of india in myanmar a few showers further west but even really from mumbai science has we've seen a reduction in the right or right you might be seeing going north was normally in the monsoon progress it isn't progressing which have produced some pretty nasty conditions to the north because it's still the cause primo on soon a very high temperatures in some places that means to me a lack of water but a cancellation of holidays in hotels. the forecast for the middle east remains the same windy and hot.

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is an extrajudicial killing for which saudi arabia is responsible that's according to a damning report by the u.n. special roberts or a d. 100 page report details taped conversations about body disposal in the moments before the show g.'s arrival at the saudi consummate any stop or. arrest warrants have been issued for 4 suspects in the shooting down of malaysia airlines flight 75 years ago dutch investigators say 3 russians and one ukrainian national are being charged with murder $283.00 passengers and 15 crew were killed and iran stiff has rejected allegations tehran is behind the suspected attacks on 2 well timed because in the gulf of oman last week a man or tommy disputes a video released by the u.s. navy that it says links iran to the incident. and under this cloud of regional tension the emir of kuwait is making his 1st state visit to iraq since saddam hussein's forces invaded the gulf state in 1990 the arrival of chef. in baghdad is

being seen as an attempt to no attention in the gulf iraq has close ties with both iran and the united states mom and john jr has more from baghdad. kuwait's emir ship the bottom of the salon has arrived in baghdad for his 1st state visit to wear it off he has been holding discussions with it off the president but i'm slow to hand it off prime minister i've been i've been mad the is currently at the palace in baghdad and we're expected to hear more about how those discussions have gone in the next several hours now this visit would be monumental even if it weren't the 1st state visit by kuwait's emir and one of the other reasons for the fact that it's so significant is because it comes as a time of such huge regional tensions at a time when that off is being increasingly squeezed between the geopolitics of what's going on the rising tensions between his 2 main allies the u.s.

and iran just when it was announced that kuwait's emir would be coming to but the dad kuwait's news agency put out a statement in which they said that shifts about visit comes amid rising and unprecedented tensions and developments witnessed by the region particularly the act which targeted the safety of oil supplies through destruction and strikes on oil and commercial vessels now while of course it is also expected that bilateral relations between iraq and kuwait will be discussed obviously the highest thing on the agenda will be to try to figure out ways to deescalate the tensions that are ongoing but also has really been the epicenter of a flurry of diplomatic activities of late in may you had u.s. secretary of state my phone peo who arrived on an unannounced surprise visit in which he said that there were threats to american personnel by iran here in iraq in the last few weeks you had visits by the foreign ministers of germany and then the foreign minister of our oman also in an effort to try to deescalate tensions now on

the heels of all those visits comes this visit by shift the bottom of the somebody who is considered to be one of the most respected diplomats in the region at a time when many people here we're speaking with says the diplomacy is sorely needed. turkey's president wants egypt tried in international courts for the death of the country's only democratically elected president mohammed morsy to one place to do everything in his power to make sure justice is done morsi died while facing trial on espionage charges in egypt earlier this week rights groups say his for treatment in prison contributed to his death led speak to our correspondent in istanbul sinan seen him present out on has been very vocal about mohammed morsi is death what is he suggesting. well father today again he repeated that he believes moore says that is not a natural one but he was actually murdered and he stays at the courthouse mohamed morsi the deports president of egypt struggled for his life for 20 minutes and none

of the officials and officers over there give a hand to mohammed morsi which means they left. those officials left mohamed morsi to that that's why he believes that this is a murder and he believes that egyptian government should be if it should be subjected to jurisdiction and the international level you know the. prisons add on actually identifies himself with mohamed morsi because he has been through a process where and military could military intervention could close his party and he could be he could end up in jail and he also actually spent some time in jail when he was the mayor of istanbul that's why he's very sensitive about this and he's trying to he's trying to give a mass to this shouldn't happen also turkey face another. after most is a prison in egypt after the military coup there was

a lot of reaction from the turkish government against the so even the by little asians with egypt or. were tense and turkey believes that that the has sisi the current president of egypt shouldn't be shouldn't get away with it was such an unlawful treatment to mohamed morsi and his colleagues and the unlawful executions of the dissidents in egypt. thank you for that simcoe forests in a stumble. opposition politicians in hong kong are pushing for a vote of no confidence against the city's leader carry lamb a day after she apologized for trying to rush through changes to the extradition law members of the legislative council are meeting for the 1st time since huge protests forced the government to suspend the bill demonstrators say they'll keep flooding the streets until the extradition changes are scrapped altogether and resigned sarah clarke has more from coal. this is the 1st time the list of council

has resumes meetings since d the protests we've seen over the last couple of weekends the 2 mass rallies we've had which saw 2000000 people march in the streets on sunday of the pan democrats made a rowdy entrance they were wearing black they were holding white flowers other holes are holding banners now they made this morning's divide all about the handling of the protesters by police have called on kerry lamb to resign over this is also a call for the security secretary to resign over the handling of excessive force that they accuse the police of using on those protesters the soft and also those pan democrats the protestant groups they will raise in the council meetings a no confidence motion in carry lamb now this will be the 2nd no confidence motion in carolan there was one last month but she survived that motion simply because the government has the numbers that is expected by the stuff to noon now as for the protests and the next plans of the student groups have held a press conference today on wednesday they've announced that the deadline for tomorrow night at 5 pm thursday 5 pm for the government to meet those demands which

is number one for kerry lamb to resign and number 2 for this extradition treaty to be withdrawn if that deadline is that has not been met their call for action is for students and other pro-democracy groups to rally around the little council building the government headquarters which is where we are now and that is for friday in eastern india an outbreak of the brain fever disease and so fell it is has claimed the lives of another 6 children raising the death toll to 106 doctors in bihar state 150 children are being 3 treated in hospital. have been demanding more government action to prevent the new outbreaks during monsoon season 380 indians died in a similar break 5 years ago. now after a 24 hour delay a judge in kenya has just delivered his verdict on the resale university attack 4 years ago 3 of the accused have been sentenced to life in prison a 4th suspect has been acquitted 148 people mostly students were killed in the arms

had kerry say university parents of some of the victims sued the government for failing to provide adequate security. dozens of migrant stranded in a boat for nearly 3 weeks off the coast of tunisia have finally been allowed to land reports these 75 mainly young bangladeshis were desperate to reach europe. they finally arrived exhausted and not where they originally planned to be most of them from bangladesh some of them barely there telling this they could hardly imagine the ordeal that awaited them at sea after they'd survived the brutal conditions in libya. to the road we're going to have the bushman goodies into the louvre if. you're going to draw me if you. were. among them one sudanese national he said he had fled the fighting after the floor

of the president of world bashir was the only one of the group that was offered asylum in tunisia. they had spent nearly 3 weeks aboard the egyptian owned bessel most of it negotiating the conditions of their arrival with richard is you know thora g.'s food water and medical attention of were provided by n.g.o.s only when they were able to reach them. it took a long time because there were a few problems and on the boat there were $32.00 miners between 12 and 16 years of age they were at risk of being exploited in traffic in europe so i'm relieved that they will be returning to their countries the small blue boat attached to the vessel was where all $75.00 of them were found drifting in the mediterranean sea they'd set off from the libyan port of the waiter their destination was europe and they were so desperate to reach there that they were willing to risk their own

lives to do so. ever since this year's clampdown on rescue boats in the mediterranean to musea has been receiving group people arriving from libya by boat and overland. this migrant center some 100 kilometers west of the libyan border houses women and minors all of them have come here via libya. who does not want to be identified found herself at the mercy of kidnappers she was taken prisoner and repeatedly raped by men paying money to her captor she became pregnant but managed to persuade him to release her. pregnant. only to dismiss in those rows. i. feel like i owe experience a few last infections. because

it is when i continue to live. because i grew up in the middle. of a conflict in libya rages on so too does a smuggling network with little regard for its victims the summer brings karma sees and more opportunities for criminal networks to feed off the vulnerable as the region becomes ever more wary of providing sanctuaries for those in desperate need . al-jazeera there is east. france's former president nicolas sarkozy will have to stand trial for corruption and influence peddling after a court rejected his bid to quassia case sarkozy's accused of offering to help a judge win a promotion in return for leaked information on a separate corruption case against him he denies any wrongdoing it became the 1st

former french president to be taken into custody during the preliminary stage of an inquiry in 2014. germany has been forced to rethink plans for a new highway toll after the e.u.'s top court ruled it would discriminate against foreign drivers outsiders face an annual fee of up to $145.01 of those with cars registered in germany get a tax reduction the european court of justice ruled the toll would have reached e.u. loss. climate experts have released an image showing the rapid ice melt in greenland with sled dogs appearing to walk on water they were on their way to retrieve measuring equipment in the northwest of the island scientists say it's unusual but not unprecedented for this time of year the canadian government has approved a contentious pipeline expansion project to deliver oil to the pacific coast for shipping overseas it set the stage for a new legal battle with concerned conservationists and indigenous groups ahead of elections later this year the pipeline was for a supposed in 2016 but

a judge ordered the government to take another look after a significant opposition to the transmission pipeline has been in operation for more than 65 years we approved the twinning of that pipeline so running a single additional pipe alongside the one that's already there this project has the potential to create thousands of solid middle class jobs for canadians people in b.c. alberta and right across the country would have more opportunities to earn a good living paris air show is showing off all sorts of new technology including potential successors to the conchords the world's for a supersonic passenger planes revolutionized air travel when their 1st school 50 years ago but breaking the sound barrier broke the bank for the airlines to natasha but has our report. blake szell is preparing to bring back supersonic flight to the aviation world at the paris a show his company launched a project for

a plane that could fly twice the speed of sound 50 years after concorde was designed with wind tunnel slide rules and drafting paper we now have carbon fiber composite vacherot and amex and new engines that allow supersonic flight to be accessible to tens of millions of people and a way that's economically and environmentally sustainable the companies raised more than a $100000000.00 to build a $55.00 seats a plane that aide says would be affordable and produce ciro carbon emissions they hope to have a prototype flying by 2020 it's not the only supersonic aircraft project a number of u.s. startups airlines and even nasa are in the race but commercial aviation has been hit before it's been more than 15 years since the british french concorde stopped flying it was a feat of engineering it could only fly over the sea it supersonic speeds though because of the very noisy sonic boom and despite his popularity it never broke even

financially challenges all that the computer world has changed as concorde. environment restrictions noice thing around airports have a much stricter so how does that fit in on the other hand compensate structures materials see if the modeling engine technology they've all improved. it could be interesting to see how it turns out if supersonic travel becomes a reality again the 7 and a half hour flight between paris new york would be hall ved and a new generation of people could experience travelling through the sky at breathtaking speed. al-jazeera paris. hello again i'm fully back to bill with the headlines. on al jazeera the murder of jamal khashoggi is an extrajudicial killing for which saudi arabia is responsible

that's according to a damning report by the u.n. special rapper to war the $100.00 page report details tapes conversations about body disposal in the moments before his show g.'s arrival at the saudi consulate in istanbul where he was made it. kind of maher has been speaking exclusively to al-jazeera when mr cashel loses consciousness there is no people of power there in the room attempting to take care of him attempting to rescue seated came attempting to do something that to me points to the fact that. the notion that there is an accident that the next 3 don't happen doesn't quite match what i have heard there is nor tempt to to do something and there is no scream so or. any expression of of fear over what's happening and we've just had reaction from saudi arabia's

government to the state minister for foreign affairs says the u.n. report contains baseless allegations and adds that only saudi arabia's judiciary has the authority to look into the case in other news a judge in kenya has delivered his verdict in the trial of bigger research university attack 4 years ago 3 of the 4 men charged were sentenced to life in prison a 4th suspect has been acquitted 140 people mostly students were killed in the armed siege at the university. arrest warrants have been issued for 4 suspects in the shooting down of malaysia airlines flight 70 to gauges say 3 russians and one ukrainian national are being charged with murder all $283.00 passengers and 15 crew were killed when m.h. 17 was shot down over eastern ukraine in july 2040 and iran's defense minister has rejected out a geisha is that tehran is behind the suspected attacks on 2 oil tankers in the gulf of oman last week those are the headlines

a stream is make some obviously or stay with us. on american soil struggling to pay their rent the problem isn't just limited to places cities. of all the governor of the good social bankers calls from the good stuff. we bring you the stories that are shaping the economy we live in. counting the cost on al-jazeera. and you're in the stream and i'm on which i will deem i spat between 2 popular you tube or is raising questions about the platforms harassment policy today we ask our panel does youtube enable hate speech join the conversation tweet us or leave your comments online and you too could be in the stream.

june is pride month which means there's a good chance you've noticed rainbow flags and pride related hashtags popping up on your this year world pride is taking place in new york city where the streets are literally being transformed to celebrate the event but the city hasn't always been a safe place for all g b t q communities in fact 50 years ago police raided the stonewall inn a local gay bar sparking both violent riots and the global gay rights movement at same time just this month the city's police commissioner offered an apology i will listen to what he said i do know what happened should not have happened the actions taken by the n.y.p.d. were wrong plain and simple yeah actions in the laws which is a scrimmage jory and oppression and for that i apologize we've been following gay rights movements across the globe and so far 2001000 has proven to be a big year in response to an international public backlash brunei announced it will

no longer enact a death penalty against the country's gay community not long after taiwan's parliament legalized same sex marriage making it the 1st country in the region to do so meanwhile as l g b t q communities fear the possibility of rollbacks from the country's far right president brazil's supreme court voted to make homophobia a crime and in response to the recent news that boats want to will decriminalize homosexuality we heard from michael hugo daro an l g b t q activist on the board of directors for outright international here's what he had to say. a lot of parts of it in those countries in the especially in botswana i've been fighting so hard for the victory and not just them but across the continent of africa this means a lot to us this is our victory and this shows that we have been a separate people you know for years and years and years and years and years for generations of generations we were fighting to give him a sept and some white people and this is africa and this is victory. so while

activists are seeing victories in courts and countries around the world today we take a look at how you communities continue the fight for safety online recently google employees have taken to using the hash tag no pride in why to criticize a company for failing to curb harassment on the platform. carlos maza host of the vox series strikethrough is routinely be objects of the right wing blogger stephen crowder's anger toward the liberal media last month maza tweeted a video compilation of all the bullying he says he's been subjected to by crowder you tube looked into the matter but ultimately decided to allow crowder's content to remain on the platform and now the decision is sparking a discussion about online hate speech and where platforms should draw the line so joining us to discuss this in new york city carlos maza he's a you tuber and host of vox media's strikethrough in syracuse new york carolyn hedges she's

a professor at the new house school of public communications at syracuse university and in santa clara california vincent he's the director of journalism and media ethics at them are clueless and santa clara university welcome everyone to the stream of course carlos i want to start on my laptop on twitter with that compilation you made but 1st it started with this tweet sent last month i have pretty thick skin when it comes to online harassment but something has really been bothering me. to say since i started working at vox steven crowder has been making video after video debunking strikethrough your show every single video has included repeated over attacks on my sexual orientation and ethnicity i've been called anchor baby a list the queer a mexican these videos get millions of views on you tube every time one gets posted i wake up to a wall of homophobic racist abuse on instagram and twitter carlos just reading it

out loud you know i get chills i'm sorry that that had to happen to you and that has been happening to you talk to us about how this even got started. yeah i started working at box making the series in january of 2017 and i think i made my 3rd video i just noticed one day that the comments of the video were just full ready of. really unusual homophobic and resist harassment and quickly found out that it was because this guy had made one of his response videos ready and i didn't do anything about it because being the target of slurs like that is really embarrassing and humiliating so i just thought i don't want to freak out my employer and i want to draw attention to it so i just kept quiet and then he made 6 more over the course of 2 years last fall i got dox by one of his supporters which means one of the supporters found my personal phone number and then started spammy with ready text messages sort of know how they got it or who has it now but after that happened i reported to my employer and said it is

a security concern and when that happens i look into whether or not you had any policies that might protect me from this kind of thing and much to my surprise you tube has made the harassment and the hate speech policy on the books pretty clear language that just doesn't force so i started independently reporting the video see to you nothing happened for months it may be more of these videos i keep waking up to more ready harassment and abuse on every social media profile and then a couple weeks ago it was like on my couch behind me eating halo top feeling very frustrated and decided i'm going to edit this stuff together and tweet about you too it's not an oarsman not because i think you're with this guy but i'm angry with the company they players that claims to care at all about group people and doesn't force the basic policies there were graders need to operate safely on the platform the coliseum into the dock thing and the. attempts behind that from people who follow crowder we've made several attempts to reach steven crowder on various

platforms but we never got more than an automated response but he did post a response on his he had to paint late last month so have a listen to this. i've been accused of playing a part or this person carlos maza having been docs i have always condemned and continue to condemn discourage any and all forms of doc singer target harassment of anyone online ok i've been consistent so please don't do that here i know some of you will get obviously mad maybe a little enraged some of the information about here but please don't do that would be above that if there's any proof that i've actively encourage people to doc's this person or anyone i will profusely apologize any proof here's the thing of the 10s of millions of cumulative plays on our rebuttals to vox on this channel every single one of them is about criticizing their ideas or incorrect assumptions every instance has been about fighting bad information with better information now carlos

maza. is upset ok listen have i ever called you carlos the gala tina host at fox yes of course but that's from the real thing. i think he calls it friendly ribbing i think you know and carlos i could see your face as you know we were kind of listening to some of that and i don't want to draw too much attention or interpretation from it but you know joking not joking baiting not baiting and the purpose of the motivation is obviously hard to really know but i'm curious for your thoughts carlos from what i understand you tube's response has been chaotic and confounding it's confounding to suggest that this is all just jokes as well as we just heard crowder do but i understand that their decision came 6 days after you flagged their harassment to you tube and you know this harassment had been going on for years we have some people on twitter like mark dice and others saying meanwhile carlos mazar encourages people to assault right wingers by throwing milkshakes on them and make them afraid to go out in public and why i mean he's referencing

a tweet where you said milkshake them all term that i had to look up and understand but but in all seriousness what do you make of this kind of counterattack this idea that it was a joke and where the line is blurred how do you determine what's a joke and what's not and was the most shake a joke. yeah so this is the strategy i've been studying right wing media for. 7 years now for 8 years ever since i left college professionally and this is a strategy that happens anytime anyone brings up a good bit of criticism of bigotry or ready bad behavior on the rate which is the rate just going to argue with a 1000000 distractions meant to put the person who brought the criticism on defense so my life since i brought this up has been people going through old tweets and making fake photos of me sending fake nudes ready to my boss and calling in death threats over the same purpose which is to get me to overreact about stuff and change my criticism so it was focus but my beef isn't with steven crowder maybe

because i'm with mark dice maybe because i'm with any of these people who are getting about behavior my beef is and has always been with you which is the company that claims that you're about to be people as for. the joking you know i edited and posted a compilation of a crowd is that about me for 2 years i want anyone to see we're not friends i've never spoken to him and never mentioned him in a video or mentions or usman we have no good blood between us he has been unsolicited calling me a list be clear and an anchor baby making fun of my voice and my body in a way that i speak for years that's not been the writing and the thing is you tube knows it's not friendly ribbing knows no serious person watching this thinks that he was making a friendly joke with one of his gay friends everyone knows his intent was to humiliate me so that too is a distraction and the problem that you tube has is that you have a very clear case right now someone who has repeatedly over the years violated their policy by engaging in the repeated use of racist somehow that somehow i'm

glad you said that because of course that is the point that i think is really at the heart of all of this it's whether or not it's a violation of policy parallel and civil i want to bring you in here on this because of as carl said several times he doesn't necessarily blame the people that do this he doesn't blame crowder he's blaming you to him for allowing this to happen carolyn what's her thought about. well it does say in the policy that if it's harmful or if it's harassment that that would be grounds for them to remove the only problem there is with the terms and conditions that means that they could not that they will write so that the very you know fine line that we need to understand here and we you know as we talk about these things because at the end of the day you tube is really looking out for you to what is going to garner the most hits what's going to garner the most advertising and so for me when i look at this . pretty tragic form of bullying that's happening by. bike rather and i'm thinking to myself this is a very clear harassment situation and you know you tube should be acting

accordingly however because it's labeled as satire behind it's labeled in a way that he says well i'm a comedian so therefore this is comedic and this is for effect that somehow gives them this guy that allows them to say well you know we're not going to take everything away will be monetized and i think from both sides left and right they found this to be an inadequate response rate me people on the left are saying it's not enough people on the right are saying how dare they and i think that the problem is that this is a place where this type of thing can and will and caroline as you were speaking or i saw it just i want you to jump in that if i can very quickly just you know with regards to the decision to do monetize i know that came hours after you tube published a blog post detailing their own plans to kind of crack down on inappropriate content if you will you know whether it promotes segregation or discrimination based on gender religion or sex and one of our comments that's coming in from our

community subaru is saying from a g florus if the platform emphasizes free speech as instrumental to its business model it should follow the same speech laws in which it operates u.s. laws ruled by the supreme court protects offensive speech certain speech such as targeted harassment inciting violence is regulated and when it comes to regulation when it comes to legislation we heard you know from from caroline that this is this is tragic and should be somehow controlled what are your thoughts and where do we draw the line where why is this continuing to happen to people like a carlos. so i want to take a small step back and look at the bigger picture here because one of the things that happens in an individual episode is we we look at doc particular frame and what actually happened but there's a bigger problem you know when you do have an all of the blood from companies which is that technology companies and their technology companies that are literally mediating the public's fear 25 years ago it wouldn't have been that easy for this to happen what was happening now that we've got carlos maza humor and you're

talking about stephen carter this would of happened the way it would would have that would that was offensive speech all the time happening in private places in a bar i could go up to a bot and somebody call me wrong guy get away from the country all of those things could have happened but it would have been in a way that wouldn't stand what's happening here on you tube as well as twitter as well as facebook is that is that is a legit demise ation of what is public what is offensive behavior what does he hate speech and what is borderline like how do you go under the radar for long enough that you want to get called out and there's a lot of. these companies that actually mediating the public sphere and while the good angels in this odd being actually encouraged because lots of good things have come out of social media it does also atomizing the batting just enough and it does let's creative people have those inventions to go and create those kinds of programs that will call out certain types of people and these people know that that

technology based phones with it i'll go to make approach to automation content tell the difference between intent and context and fact it just won't happen. i've seen i've seen crowd as we do i don't think it looks comedic he says it's comedic now if you start saying it's comedic as a reaction to carlos accusations that is to me trying to take advantage of the system i don't think carlos she. comedic and he is part of. me. for him it's not comedic that has to be taken i do not get it peaking complained all listen to each dave being dehumanised in some way. show and like i like the point that you're making there because i wanted to bring this up as you were speaking basically you mentioned the borderline content and discovering what

that is and how we decipher what that is take a look at my screen here this is you tube's official blog and i had mentioned that they had put this out as responses when say june 5th and they say that their work has focused on 4 pillars of investing in their policies or resources and products to live up to their responsibility and one of those pillars is reducing the spread a borderline content of course the question assume intent is what does this mean but i want to bring in a comment from someone else that asked what this means for the wider landscape of people because we got a video comment from conrad thompson conrad goes by the pronouns they and them and conrad asks a question to you carlos that i give you and they say that they got their opinion from a pot slime youtube video so this is an idea that's out there have a listen to conference issue of whether we should be platform not to censor but the platform steven crowder has surprising lead to much infighting within the left the crux of the issue is whether by advocating for the platform or anyone the left may

be opening itself up to censorship by the monstrous mega corporation that is you tube google alphabet we can all agree that you tube is too big and too powerful you tube and also to media for that matter throttle to monetize and delete leftist content all the time and have been for a long time carlos what do you think about you tube silencing the far left are some of my comrades justified in fearing corporate. yeah it's a great question and this is exactly that i grapple with all the time my frustration with that is that. you know this is true of any rule of any posi to restrict behavior there's a risk of the policy being misused or used in a way that targets vulnerable groups that is not a defense of having no rules like i don't have a bunch of trust that police officers can fairly force the law but i'm not an anarchist because i think this lucian is to advocate for the air force and all

those laws so the alternative to trying to restrict some speech is that you too let's he speech run amok and the numbers alter that is not people and bullies learn to coexist in peace if they were people and people of color get tired of suffering and i have the platform if you look at 14 and that's what happens you end up having a playground that is run slowly by the bullet so yet there's a risk of of overdoing it or misfiring the solution is to hold you to accountable and especially when they're public facing corporate values claim to care about the people ready there should be some connect between what the states advertisers and how they've forced their polls and on that point carolyn i'm curious you know we have a lot of comments that are coming in live on you tube. that are addressing something that we haven't explicitly really mentioned which is money. this guy on on our live chat saying you tube is a business it is aiming to get that sweet ad revenue and controversy like this drives people to the site i'm curious caroline when you you see that comment in

kind of a focus on money there and then you see a tweet like this from frankie saying i've been very clear in many threads surrounding this issue between crowder and mazar that i don't think de platforming should be the baseline for addressing these issues i think there needs to be a thoughtful and teared system for dealing with the level of agree just as obviously it's all relative you know someone might find one thing more egregious but what is the role of money here and is you tube capitalizing off of controversy . i always tell my students follow the money right i mean that's what this is unfortunately all about when we think about you know demonetized thing crowd or for his offensive language that actually showed an uptick in sales for some of his hateful paraphernalia that he sells on his site so money is at the heart of all of this for better or for worse for better because that how including sears make money using you tube for words and the fact that he the more people that we have going

there the more likely they are to keep someone being more hateful things going on and to carlos's point about how about you 2 being an advocate for the l g l g t l b g t q community as well they really are providing kind of a contrary position to the public and the reason for that again is because of the money if we were to all say hey let's just not use you tube let's just all agree that no one in the world will use you tube then something you know could potentially change however that's not a likely scenario i mean they are one of the biggest companies in the world they are the 2nd largest search and we go there to search for recipes so my point is that in response to that comment that's what i'm going to follow now go ahead. well sorry just tell them something for you guys your point there to defend her point. so i didn't know i actually agreed with caroline and i want to go deep on the point and go full what she thinks about this that is

a money thing that's in the big chill for media companies a little it's not like television journalism did not use that age media approach to rank datings up all the time so that is not new watch new. there technology companies that have a global platform and to trying to build a global policy structure even though different countries different cultures have different sensibilities on what is hate what does a french want. it is actually a slow and what is not to slow what's the context in which something actually incited weiland is that this gov inciting violence is a risk of getting docked these are things that are not similar across the world and yet we we want to run technology companies as a business if you have to pick up the moderation policies thing across the world in each particular company so they have if you notice they don't have a hate speech policy for india to do to a wide hindu muslim weiland they have a ph beach policy period they've got it across the world and the continent

moderation teams are trained to go off and look at the actual context but they're trying as best as possible to global policy structure that can automate as much of the detection and that's where the problem comes and then it gets escalated to a bunch of human behavior and people like carlos can complain well it's all i'm going to all the demise of the best they can and that is not looking good one word one in my opinion one thing i think to the problem with that is that it's expensive right so the technology can't keep up with the sophistication of how people are posting things the subtleties of sarcasm subtleties you know and the other things we've discussed and in addition if you're talking about those moderators that are they are going through video after video and there was a recent exposé about the facebook moderating company that you know people are going through post-traumatic stress syndrome after viewing all rights videos that take their human toll and who are and when you're talking about i mean actual and when we sorry to interrupt you but i just want to get this in here you know we've

heard you know different people mention carlos you know situation we focused on that but there are of course many others and i just wanted to share lindsey ahmed who's the host and creator of queer kid stuff on you tube had this experience let's take a listen. hi my name is lindsay and i run a you tube channel called queer kid stuff where i make l g b t q plus and social justice videos for kids and families i've been on you tube for about 3 years now and pretty much since day one i've faced daily harassment it's actually gotten so bad that about a year or 2 ago i disabled every single comment section on every video that i have uploaded to you tube it's been a really big problem for a long time and you tube doesn't seem to be doing very much about it at all i think that i would love to see from you tube to make this change happen is to hire queer people and people of color in their executive positions to really look at the problem from the inside and get solutions from the community carlos is not

a priority for you in terms of trying to solve this kind of thing yeah i mean i've seen a lot of these videos and their shows incredible and i've also seen a bunch of videos reach millions of views by just mocking the show and the most basic bigoted sense and there's that there's an issue about having critical people of color on advisory boards but this other issue that we're not talking about is that it's not just a just school difficulty for you to take this on you tube financially benefit stop of bigotry hate speech and harassment is incredibly in gage and so you built an entire ecosystem all right bigots who use hate speech to garner millions of views and then are you to reward those bigots by recommending you and you people too and building their audiences it's not that you tube is this passive carlos' negligent act or i think they're actively involved in the promotion because the entire i can hear what you're saying i have to positive there because unfortunately we are out of time but i think your point was crystal clear on that

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international investigation is needed that is the conclusion of a lengthy inquiry by the un special rapporteur. report describes because such is death inside the cited consulate in istanbul last october as an extra judicial killing for which saudi arabia is responsible she calls for a further investigation into the individual responsibility of saudi officials at the highest level including crown prince mohammed bin salomon through. court also details taped conversations about body disposal in the moments before because saudis arrival at the consulate she says the killing is an international crime with universal universal jurisdiction and she urges a criminal inquiry by the united nations well in the past half hour there's been reaction from saudi arabia the minister of state for foreign affairs and he says only the kingdom has the authority to look into the case and describes the report as full of full of clear contradictions and baseless allegations well earlier i spoke exclusively to my colleague. and here i was there and she was clear about

where ultimate responsibility lies for what she called the execution of jamal khashoggi. the state of saudi arabia is 1st and foremost responsible for for the murder i think it's important to and cyst that the executor of mr cashel you was a killing by was a state we have focused extensively on the identity of various individuals that where involved in the commission of the crime but 1st and foremost we must turn system putting the responsibility of the killing towards the state of saudi arabia it must bear responsibility for that killing and we must take action as a state to repay over killing did of the crown prince of saudi arabia mohammed bin salman directly order show does matter i have found no evidence. regarding who ordered the killing it doesn't mean that the evidence does not exist

it just means that i was not able to or to locate it what i would like to highlight as well is the fact that the response ability to force state killings does mean that we need to be more sophisticated in the way we define responsibilities of course who ordered is important but there are ranch of other responsibilities that are involved in the commission of the crime that are very similar to what we called the chain of command responsibilities in a in a military setting but to prime that concept to a civilian setting saw east somebody responsible for inciting directly or indirectly our deed somebody failed to prevent did somebody fail to stop the exit you should so this is why you have called for the criminal investigation

to see exactly should solve that dos responsibilities can be identified but what you say miss calamine in the report that there is a lot of circumstantial information and you say that a bear at a bare minimum you say that the saudi crown prince condole and this behavior and condone the actions that led to the murder of john mouthwash. absolutely i am pointing out that the commission the exit of the killing of mr cash or spritz he did over the year by a ranch of regulations that had been when a reported denounced and money to there's no way the highest level of the of the state of saudi arabia including the crown prince well not aware of those repeated violations therefore for the 12 months at least that preceded the exit you should of mr there were many opportunities to take step to prevent and stop further

violations doorsteps where not taken the exit to sion of mr cashel de force within that context within a campaign. directed at people perceived to be undermining or frightening the state the breast cancer believe of those in charge of the state is just engaged so talk us through then the sequence of events from what you have studied to what extent was jamal has showed g.'s murder premeditated. so based on the information that was made available to me including. some some 17 minutes of recording in the days and on the day of these exit to sion there is little doubt in my mind that the killing morse premeditated it course planned with equal splendor as the 1st objective or whether it was planned

as a 2nd objective that i could not determine it may be possible that the primary objective was the kidnapping of mr casualty which is all saw by the way and it wished to end sr pondered a violation of international human rights law it is possible that the kidnapping was a 1st objective and though the killing as a as an option if the kidnapping field but steps were taken before the as fault of the preparation of the mission to plan for a possible war or an actual exit you should what steps precisely from what you heard in the audio tapes that were submitted to you because as you know the saudis have said that this was an operation that went wrong that it was a botched operation what steps did they take prior to jamal khashoggi entering the saudi cancel it. yes absolutely. the the team that

our i have identified as having exit q to the killing of mr casually included a forensic doctor it is very difficult to imagine that sure we include a forensic doctor in a team for the purpose of only carrying out. an abduction that's the 1st thing 2nd the recording before the execution so recording i have been able to to listen to we my personal interpreter of those recordings and tickets that an hour before the killing the the dismemberment of mr casualties body was already discussed by the doctor and or the individual daws are indication in my view that at the minimum the killing was indeed planned and

and prepared for the recordings that you talk about were provided to you by turkish officials correct yes these are the recording provided to him by turkish official and what did you learn in these recordings about the way jamal has showed g.'s body was disposed of because his remains have still not been found. indeed his remain have not been found and i must highlight the fact that the recordings needs to be interpreted they do not tell a very straightforward story. what was done to use body i cannot deduct. i have a home and i can infer from the sound that something was done based on the technique or. knowledge of the various people i have consulted it is well possible that mr cashel game was 1st put. first injected with something and then

that he was actually asphyxiated weezer plastic bag this is the possibility the nature and the extent of the dismemberment of his bodied these i cannot comment upon it's not possible allow me to add one thing when at least this was a recording is concerned that i have when mr cashel loses consciousness there is no evidence of the people that are there in the room attempting to take care of him the 10000 to rescue team attempting to do something that to me points to the fact that the notion that there is an accident that the next event happened that doesn't quite match what i have heard there is nor tempt to to do something and there is no scream so or.

any expression of of fear over what is happening do you think that there is anyone today who knows where the remains of jamal khashoggi are or yes absolutely and who think that people that were in the room the people that disposed of the body. do you know what they are there where 15 individuals involved in that mission. do you think the saudi leadership know where the remains are i don't know i mean ninoy love between b. will just make. yourself so i really don't want to argue to suggest this is not something i have tried to or determine ok you'll be presenting this column are this report i understand on june 26th to the un human rights council which saudi arabia is a member of what do you think is going to happen what do you hope will happen now that

you've released this report you know my report makes a friend of recommendations including to saudi arabia as a special rapporteur i am committed to establishing constructive relationship preserve the governments that i work with i have attempted to work with saudi arabia for the last 6 months of not shown any interest in doing so or my reporting proves or render of recommendations including with regard to the ongoing trial including with regard to step that. take to demonstrate not a repetition which is a from them and tall dimension of their responsibilities given that they have established that the responsibility of the state is involved not repetition and we mean a more were the things to to treat all of those that are currently and prison or arrest.