tv Jared Kushner Al Jazeera June 26, 2019 3:32am-4:01am +03
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u.n. special investigator said the death of journalists was an extrajudicial killing that songy arabia was responsible for the us president has threatened to obliterate iran donald trump made the comment on twitter after the iranian president's just said the white house was idiotic for imposing new sanctions on supreme leader ali how many ukrainian delegates have walked out of a meeting of a european based human rights body after russia's voting rights were restored the council of europe which is not linked to the e.u. suspended moscow 5 years ago after 8 onix ukrainian territory of crimea its 47 members largely supported law school's return but ukraine says there should be no concessions to russia until crimea is returned and those are the headlines on al-jazeera talk to al-jazeera is next.
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movements and. it has taken 2 years to prepare the trumpet ministration now unveiling its plan for bringing the palestinians and the israelis to the negotiating table already skeptics are voicing concern saying the american side is using money to bribe the palestinians the plan as envisioned by the trump administration is to gather momentum behind efforts to commit $50000000000.00 investment in palestine money that primarily is expected to come from other arab nations principally in the gulf this part of the plan is being discussed this week in bahrain where participants will talk about projects and conditions for investments in more detail then based on the outcome of this meeting the next step would be to fashion
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a political settlement that would translate financial commitments into reality on the ground in palestine but key palestinian institutions are not attending the mana my meeting for example the palestinian authority which is arguing for a reverse order a political settlement 1st money later an approach that would tackle the difficult questions of establishing a palestinian state and israeli occupation of palestinian lands and allow refugees to return the israeli government is also not attending the meeting at least not officially the man who is spearheading the plan is president trump's senior adviser and son in law gerry coaster and today at the white house he sits down on talk to al-jazeera to explain the trumpet ministrations strategy for bringing peace. between the israelis and the palestinians. mr great to have you on thank you very much for the time i just wanted to briefly
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start by asking you what does doing this interview at this time with edges e it mean to you thank you well it's an honor to be with you and thank you for coming to the white house and our excited we leave in a couple hours to go to bahrain for what will be a very exciting workshop we thought was very important to speak to al-jazeera it's been a great voice in the region and somebody that we've been working with and we're hopeful that this will give us the opportunity to have a direct line to a lot of the people in the middle east now the workshop in. what will be your metrics for measuring this success of it. so i think it's already been a success in the sense that we have every country coming from the region we have a lot of countries coming from throughout the world despite people who tried to get them not to come they're all coming and that's a very big 1st step the 2nd step is that we've been able to get some of the top investors and people from throughout the world to come who are showing interest in
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helping the palestinian people in the region right now we have a lot of investment funds that won't invest in the middle east because it's not stable they don't have peace they don't have security and so we want to show people is that there is a great potential a great future for this region if it's possible so we laid out our vision a couple days ago and that's starting to get a lot of discussion in the region and we hope that this conference will be able to further discuss it figure out where people agree figure out where people have different suggestions and then hopefully form a real consensus around what the potential could be for the region if there is a peace agreement so how will you tally you'll metrics measuring success with the metrics good others especially the skeptics may have about the success of the show and i think that with the whole peace process in general people are right to be skeptical there it's a problem that has been unsolved for many many years and what i find is a lot of the christian criticism we get are from people who have tried to do this in the past and who have failed and then they criticize us for not doing it the
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same way that they've done it again the president is not a traditional politician he wants to do things in a in a different way and if we can get people through this process to look at this problem differently and to see what the future can be then i think that could be a very very big successful thing we laid out our vision we put on our website and start to circulate we've seen a ton of downloads and internet traffic on it in the west bank and gaza and throughout the middle east and that's great we need to start the discussion then i will want his people to see that there can be a very bright future this plan calls for $50000000000.00 of investment both between private capital and low interest loans and grants we want to build all the necessary infrastructure we want to make sure that these different industries are. stimulated if we do that properly. we believe that this plan will create over a 1000000 new jobs in the west bank in gaza we think it can reduce the unemployment rate to under the single digits and we think that it could decrease the poverty rate by 50 percent those are all goals that we should really strive to they cannot
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happen without a peace agreement but without a real plan prosperity doesn't just happen prosperity has to be planned for earned an executed very vigorously so you obviously packs a lot of information and goals in there i will try to pack them. individually but let me ask you 1st it's one thing to get people to come and attend the workshop but when things when the rubber so to speak hits the road that's the real challenge so how will you apply those metrics to the reality when the reality actually begins if it does begin to be a reality in terms of getting that money dispersing it and pumping it into projects right so a lot of the pledges that have been made in the past have not been fulfilled then i think that's because there was never really a product designed for let's all agree on the front end for what we're going to try to do with the capital that comes in and then let's make sure we have a a mechanism to monitor that it will actually go through we believe in rewarding
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results not rewarding efforts and i think that if we can get everyone to buy in on the front end to what. to what an economic plan could be and i think they'll make it much easier to get people to all agree to invest capital and then hopefully make sure that that follows through nobody knows more about broken promises than the palestinian people there's been more promises that been made to them and broken to over the years the one thing about president trump is he's one of the few leaders people have seen in that region who actually keeps his promise whether you like his decisions or you don't like his decisions people know that when he says he's going to do something he's going to do it and one of the things he said is he wants to see this conflict come to an end he wants to help the palestinian people and part of this is his vision for what he can do to really create a different paradigm in the region so obviously. the palestinians and others in the wider arab world on this issue of president don't trump promises they will say he promised and he delivered to the israelis he promised to recognize jerusalem as the capital of israel and he lived up to that promise but at the same time
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promising that to the israelis. to the palestinians that tantamount to trying to kill their dreams for having their own capital in jerusalem . so the recognizing israel's capital is jerusalem has been law in the united states since 1906 it was passed unanimously israel's a sovereign nation a sovereign nation has the right to determine where their capital is and america has the right to recognize the decision of another sovereign nation which is what we chose to do that is a promise the president kept another promise the president kept is to get out of the j c p a way the iran deal which has been a terrible deal which has caused a lot of destruction throughout the region another promise the president made is that he would destroy isis and take back the caliphate and he's done that too so the president's kept his promises that impact people throughout the region with regard to the palestinian people when the president moved the embassy to jerusalem
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he said that this should not impact final status negotiations issues we've been working very carefully on a very deep proposal for what we think can help bring this conflict which has been stuck forward and we're hopeful that we'll be able to put that out soon and hopefully parties will be responsible they'll gauge on it and they'll try to move forward and now beyond the workshop in. i mean is the president president donald trump committed to actually helping the palestinians achieve their own independent state as they claim we've jerusalem as its capital to help them deal with the issue of palestinian refugees and their return things political things that are very important to the palestinians is present don't drum and all you committed to so we are committed to trying to find a different solution for the region and people forward and again what president trump is focused on here in america is how do you improve people's lives how do you give them security had you give them prosperity there's
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a lot of different ways to do that the the reforms that we've done here in america have led to our economy being incredibly strong the president looks at this region and he says he doesn't want to think through traditional lenses he wants to think about how do we take all these people let them live together let them live. securely and let them live with real opportunity and hope so we're not going discuss the political components in this workshop we're going to be doing that at a later date but i can assure you that president trump is committed to bringing real prosperity to the region and also bring safety to the region you see that in his actions with isis you see that in actions with iran and you see that in terms of all the ways that he's been fighting to kind of make the region more safe let me take you back to the workshop for a while now the. the middle east crises the blow up unexpectedly sometimes how would you. convince or what guarantees would you give to the people who will be attending the minimal workshop
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that if they pledge money or investment to build palestinian infrastructure that that money will be well invested given that in the past in conflicts between these radios and the palestinians palestinian infrastructure was destroyed the government in gaza is a good case in point right and when the infrastructure is destroyed in the investment stops who suffers the most the palestinian people and so i think the point huge and the question you just asked makes my point entirely which is that right now the region is not investable in a way that it needs to be in order for it to be investable we need to resolve these core conflicts we don't resolve these core conflicts by being firm on a position without finding a way to compromise and to negotiate but we're trying to show people is that if there is compromise and if we are able to find a resolution that's fair to both sides we can create an apparatus where there is security and where there is prosperity these investors a lot of them are showing up because they don't just want to create returns they want to see this area do better they want to see an opportunity but these are also
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people who are not going to be investing if they think that they're good money's going to go after bad money and there's a lot of examples in the past how investments have been squandered how infrastructure has been destroyed but again that's because of bad leadership on behalf of the palestinians and it's also because we're in a situation where there's conflict if. can end the conflict we can resolve the issues then that will lead to better lives for and more opportunity for the palestinian people now when there's conflict as you know obviously these radius blame the palestinians and the palestinians and their supporters blame the israelis and that leads to the criticism at least from the palestinian side that by doing when i am a few up watching the cart before the horse they are arguing you should try to settle some of the political questions in order to stave off conflict then poor money into the infrastructure that's been the traditional thinking and that has not
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worked i mean we are where we are today and the way that people have thought about this in the past it hasn't worked so what we've tried to do is help people identify what a future could look like and hopefully we get people to all agree on what a future can look like and then we get people to look at maybe let's commit to the future in the event that there is a peace agreement perhaps that will create a different condition there which people can then approach some of these political issues that have been a resolvable for a very very long time how much financial commitment if you're able to say did you actually get from the rich arab states whether in the gulf or elsewhere the fact is they are principally in the gulf so the plan this plan with the $50000000000.00 actually will require less annual contributions to the palestinians than we have on an annual basis to date so for a lot of the donor nations not just from the middle east but also from throughout the world right now they keep giving money every year the people's lives are not
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getting better there's no plan to ever resolve it but we want them to do is figure out how do you all buy into one universal plan and then let's start investing in a way that will actually lead to a domino effect of people's lives getting better you know for years and years there's been money thrown at this problem but there's been no accountability and people have not been held. result some people are fine with the status quo they've done very well from it but the money is not trickled down to the people and their lives have not gotten better we need to create a new framework because what they've done in the past has not worked so dress for me a little bit criticism leveled at you by the palestinians at the workshop the minimal workshop in particular they are saying that basically these radius got. recognition over jerusalem as its. capital for example and now you are telling them the power stimulus that we will give you money which they called as you know they called it a bribe and on top of that they say this is
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a lot of money coming from arabs going to arabs in this case the palestinians can you address that i think that you know people mockingly call this the deal of the century i think the plan that we've laid out is actually the opportunity of the century you talk about the palestinians like they're a homogeneous body what we have is we have a lot of palestinians since we put this out who are calling us saying this is phenomenal what do we have to do to get this we want this is exactly what we need thank you for taking the time to put together such an in-depth plan thank you for getting the world interested in seeing that the way that they've been doing it to date has not worked and for highlighting the way forward so from our point of view we think that this is a step forward because we want people to discuss new ideas look at this problem differently and again you know people who come with criticism it's very easy to see what you're against it's much harder to say what you're for and what we've done is we've done the hard work we've studied this problem we've studied all the global economies that have been successful over the last 75 years we've studied economies
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where it's failed we've drawn from the best ideas we customize this plan for work here we've built it off a lot of the great work that's been done in the past and what we've done is we've put forward a very credible substantive detailed plan for how to move forward and then what we'll do is will refine it again nobody's got a good manav nobody's got a monopoly on good ideas will refine the. we'll get by in and then we'll go and we'll try to address the political solutions but what i do know is that a lot of the people who are criticizing are not people have been constructive these are people who've been involved in this for a very very long time and these are people who have not found solutions and who have not helped to make the palestinians people's lives better did you incidentally invite any input while preparing for this from the palestinians themselves in terms of the concept i guess as a concept so few things one is the reason we're doing economics 1st before the political solution is that they're both very in-depth. documents that we put together and we were told it would be too much to digest both at one time so we're putting this forward knowing that we would get criticism that we're doing this
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without the political but like i said you can't execute these economic plans without having a political solution so the advice we got from people in the region was to put this out 1st and we thought that that would get people to focus on this so that when they enter into the political discussion they have this in context and again over the last 2 years we've engaged extensively with a lot of palestinian leaders a lot of palestinian business community a lot of people throughout the middle east we have not been trying to impose a solution on this region that we think works we're trying to draw from the region all the best ideas in that help people create a new framework to discuss these issues that have not been able to be resolved in the past but did you get any input from the palestinian authority. we have had not going to comment on this question we've had with them or haven't and that with them now the palestinian decision not to attend the. workshop is that a blow not at all look it was fairly predictable what they've been saying his a lot of very hot rhetoric about rejecting everything before they even see it which
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is not in my opinion a very responsible position the responsible thing is to say we've been trying to do this for 25 years we have not made any breakthroughs if people are coming in there trying to spend the effort to create a blueprint for us to be able to have a better future willing gauge with them will listen for whatever reason they think it's better politics for them or better policy to to say all the things they've been saying but i don't see how their actions are going to lead to their lives of the people getting better i know that when president trump takes decisions or make statements he's always looking at it through the filter of will this keep the people that i was elected to represent safer will this help them have more opportunity to live a better life but right now quite frankly i'm not sure i understand what their strategy is and my hope is that as we put these as we put these elements out they'll realize that there's a lot of good elements here that will help their people have a better life and they'll engage now the main beef that the palestinian authority has your plan as you know is that they saying. instead of
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land for peace that the principle of land for peace you're offering them money for peace now land for peace is the essence of basically of the saudi initiative by late king. how much overlap is there any overlap at all between your plan and the arab initiative of the saudi king abdullah so i would say the 1st part if that's what they're saying that's a very uninformed position this is not money for peace this is economic prosperity and a business plan if there is peace right so the peace has to stand on its own but you can't just sign of peace. agreement after you know all these years of fighting that no sudden love each other and move on with life you have to be able to articulate what a future is that could be exciting for people if you think about it for the middle east the unifying feature of a lot of the arab world over the last 70 years is the hatred of israel and they've used that often to deflect from a lot of their own shortcomings internally and so israel is not the cause of the
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problems throughout a lot of this region throughout a lot of these places the problem is bad governance the problem is lack of opportunity for people and lack of investment in the right way so again what we're trying to do here is we're trying to figure out what is a framework for moving forward you mentioned the air peace initiative i think that was a very very noble effort when it was done 2002 the air peace initiative says that there is no military solution to this conflict which i think is a very important recognition that has to be a negotiated solution the parties have tried negotiating for a lot of years it hasn't worked so we've tried to do is figure out a new framework for this to happen the political plan would be very in-depth we'll put that out at the right time and we hope people will judge it on its merits as opposed to rejecting it before they even see it which again is not a rational construct in terms of how to approach trying to make the lives of your people better so again the purpose is to bring people together show that there is a lot of potential for this region showed that a lot of the greatest investors in the world do care about this issue care about
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the palestinian people want to be here in the event that we can create a peace agreement and a stable environment where capital can be invested and opportunity could be realized now. and all the points on the arab initiative the. u.s. ambassador to israel david friedman has is on the record as saying that he thinks that israel has the right to retain some of the west bank to the palestinians and others in the arab world that is. a death blow to the. 2 state solution is the 2 state solution still a viable solution for you and for president donald trump so right now from unama we're focused on the economic aspects of what could be possible if there is a resolution but what i will say is that you know all of the people i speak to you know they talk about the arab peace initiative and again it was a it was a great effort but if that was where a deal was going to be made
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a deal would be made a long time ago i think we all have to recognize that if there ever is a deal it's not going to be along the lines of the arab peace initiative will be somewhere between the arab peace initiative and somewhere between the israeli position and we need to think about what are the fundamental things that are underlying important number one is security right i think the israeli population and the palestinian population and the broader middle east right now cares a lot about have security the more you have security the more you could have freer flow of goods freer flow of people i know that's a very big issue for the palestinians they want to be able to move through the borders i think the cost of goods are too high because it takes a long time to get through the borders but there's a direct correlation between the ramping up of terror and the threat to israel and the slowing down of the borders and so you know if we can create an environment where there's actual peace and again peace comes from compromise and we'll figure out what the right elements of that are at the right time then that is the necessary precondition to be able to implement a lot of the economic reforms that we're going to talk about at this conference now the for the palestinians as you know the main problem at this particular point in
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time they say yes the economy's a problem but the main problem is these radio keep patients. what they describe as the lack of real genuine israeli interest in peace they say for example that robina was killed because he was interested in peace and he was killed by an israeli by not by a palestinian so what do you say to that well i think the there israelis that say that the palestinians have no interest in peace and there are palestinians that say that israelis. no interest in peace that's what a negotiation is people start with different positions they start out with sides and again if we want to find a pathway forward that means both sides have to find a place where they both feel like they can gain more than they give and then move forward and have the opportunities to live better lives this is been spoken about for a long time a lot of the leadership that's been condemning the efforts in trying to tell people how this should be done these are the people that have failed and so you look at
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where the peoples' lives are today versus all the money that's gone into this area over the years it has not trickled down to the people in the way that it should so i think it's time to try something new and again what we're trying to accomplish at the naama is we're trying to figure out how do we get people to look at this problem through a different lens when i travel through the region i share the economic vision with a lot of the different leadership in the different arab and muslim countries and the result was they said this is fabulous this is great work this is fresh thinking what we should do is bring everyone together let's present it let's not make this an american project this make this a regional and a global project we can all come together share ideas agree on what it can be and then let's figure out how we can create the right political environments that we can execute it i have one minute left of the time and i really appreciate you now after a minute after the workshop what happens after the minimum. what are the a.b.c.'s what's going to happen right so the 1st part is we want to get everyone together hopefully get feedback we've gotten
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a ton of fabulous feedback so far on the vision that we've laid out people love the depth of it they love the detail of it what we hope to do is engage in a discussion on all of the different components and then what will do after that is we'll figure out how do we do some follow up and then bring the world together to agree on what an economic plan can look like going forward once we have that i think then that creates the precondition that's necessary in order to have a real discussion about the core status issues in the political issues thank you very much. thank you very much.
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