between the south korean president moon jay in and president trump president moon said the south korean president called it a 100 shake for peace so talk us through the significance of what this one shake will mean and also if president trump steps over into north korea i mean that's pretty significant talk us through what it means. it certainly is and it would be almost a repeat of what moon j.n. did last year last april when he had that historic meeting there the one of the 1st meetings that really got this whole process underway when he met with kim jong un in the peace village of panmunjom they famously walked towards the demarcation line shook hands kim jong un then stepped over into south korea and then said you know what have you ever been to north korea and then. stepped over with him into north korea and i think that's probably almost like the model what we might see choreographed if and when this meeting takes place this afternoon. in we've been

watching pictures of him. attending the being in the g. 8 jr say looking from this observation post across into the north of beaming president moon obviously he is it's very important for him that this gets these negotiations back on track he seems to have staked his whole political reputation on this whole process so he will want to see as he mentioned in that press conference that this leads to something more a yes it is just a handshake but he has said that possibly it could well lead to this 3rd summit a meaningful summit before the end of the year and that's important of course here in korea because that is the deadline that kim jong un of north korea has set after the failure of the hanoi summit they said they were humiliated by that walking away without a deal and really giving the south koreans and also the u.s.

a deadline that unless the united states come back to the negotiating table with something more basically meaning some relief from sanctions then who knows what will happen next intimating that possibly it could return to some of its nuclear testing and its longer range missile launchers. we haven't seen that so far but there has been hints that what there might be a future here on the korean peninsula with the restarting of some launching of smaller shorter range missiles that have worried people so j.n. on the south koreans will be very hopeful that this will indeed succeed just to go back to some of the points james was making about the j s a the joint security area and the changes that we've seen during this whole process of reconciliation it is a very much different atmosphere up there at the moment we have seen for example some of the small changes that have been agreed between north and south korea the

guards that are brought in there between the blue hearts they are no longer arms they no longer take the hostile face to face stance against the guards on the northern side it's a lot more a relaxed atmosphere you have tour groups on the southern side waving across the tour groups on the northern side and it's these small changes that yes we have seen setbacks in recent weeks we've seen a return to some of the north korean hostile rhetoric again a directed south korea and also to a certain extent to the united states but there have been these small steps taken the dismantling of guard posts along the heavily fortified demilitarized zone the lifting of landmines the the digging of also for remains of soldiers who were killed in a still missing along this the demarcation line along the d.m.z. so we have seen small measures being being taken small improvements and it's all of

that which julian of south korea wants to see built upon that is all now at stake is the future directions of relations with north korea very much hanging in the balance down here and you talk us through some of the changes that have happened at the jail say the joint security area the famous. it's rob how comfortable do you think president trump will be making that move stepping over the border i mean you saw you were there when president moon j.n. did exactly the same thing during the april 27th seen summit with with him and kim jong il but of course this time around this huge issues with security and logistics . absolutely and i'm sure. the question is how long this has been in the planning this has been in the offing whether we believe president trump that this just came to him saturday morning yesterday and he decided just to tweet about it and see what happens or whether it

has been days in planning because of course the secret service will have been running around all throughout the night media here in south korea i've been reporting all kinds of meetings that have been going back and forth during the overnight at the d.m.z. to make sure that this all happens the big thing i think for president trump is. the fact of making history it's worth pointing out that the guard post that they have just been the observation post that they've just been to is the one that u.s. presidents normally visit when they come to come to the d.m.z. you can look across into north korea what you can see from the observation post interestingly especially in this border area where you have all of this one upmanship between north and south korea it is this flagpole that dominates the skyline of north korea it was or maybe still has the wreck ordered i think of being the tallest flagpole on the korean peninsula with the biggest flag and there's the

troops up there tell you one of the problems with having the world's biggest flag is you need an awful lot of wind to actually make it look impressive for a lot of the time it actually just hangs there limply what we have seen today in fact is there is a lot of wind so it has looked quite impressive but all of the presidents i think bar one i think the. president bush sr only visited the d.m.z. when he was vice president he didn't visit as president but it is one of the pilgrimages that all presidents seem to make as they go to the d.m.z. what they do not do is they go down then into the blue huts walk up to the demarcation. unlined shake hands with north korea's leader and then is if that is what he's going to take place take a start step across into north korea there and rob you've been following this very very closely in terms of the machinations of diplomacy and so on let me ask you i

mean how far apart then are both sides i mean we've seen no denuclearization we've seen a couple of missiles being launched by north korea that trump dismissed and said look you know this is not really a huge problem but i mean just talk us through for those are just joining us now how far apart are both sides and how the south korea president moon jay and what does he think of his role going forward because as you say he's pretty much say his political career on this. that's right i mean as we watch these pictures it is quite dizzying of with we are potentially seeing history in the making and you really have to ground yourself and say well hang on a 2nd this is all meant to be leading up to the denuclearization of the korean peninsula which we keep hearing about and we keep hearing from the president who is possibly overly optimistic he has to be optimistic because the price of failure potentially is just so disastrous to contemplate that he when you actually look at

what has taken place there has not actually been any parts of north korea's nuclear arsenal that has been boxed up or decommissioned or handed over and they are still miles apart from each other when it comes to their relative positions. broke down we know that and so they still remain along let me just finish on those i said just how we are and our viewers what we're seeing president from. the south korean president have now arrived at the joint security zone there inside one of the famous blue huts we're seeing president i believe meeting some south korean m.p. south korean border guards there as you say they're not allowed to bring weapons into the air anymore so president trump shaking hands we're still still awaiting the arrival of the north korean leader kim jong il so again you know the waiting

game continues but we're sort of inching closer to this hand shake the peace that the south korean president called it a little bit earlier in that press conference but rob as well as we're watching. president moon address his south korean border guards with president next to him you were talking us through just how far apart both sides the u.s. and north korea are in terms of any form. yes that's right they still remain miles apart and it was the failure i think that surprised everyone at hanoi of that particular summit just to go back to the pictures we are watching here where i think this was on the schedule that as well as going to the deed did to militarize own and the obviously the most important part of this will be the expected meeting with kim jong un they would be meeting some of the troops up there i think they mentioned that in their press conference i

believe these pictures are coming from one of the service buildings close to pam and jump village not from one of the blue huts itself but yes as you said there everybody is hoping that possibly this could lead to some sort of resumption of talks a lot of the criticism of this whole process has been that it has been very much top down it's been 2 rather impetuous leaders agreeing to meet without having done an awful lot of the power tree work by their teams at lower levels but the beauty of a top down approach is you can tweet something on a saturday morning and the next day a sunday afternoon be meeting with the person to whom you tweeted that and that seems to be what is happening here remains to be seen of course where it might lead from here we now seem to be watching president trump i think delivering a few remarks through an interpreter to some of the so troops the south korean troops that he is addressing and waiting to see where it goes from here it will be

interesting to see in the press conference that was given earlier moon j.n. of south korea. i'm going to have. let's just listen to what president trump is saying to the troops there. continues all right we thought we had. everything.

all right so was there president from we believe in one of the service buildings near the joint security area the famous blue hot season actually there yet. we saw he's there saying if he was this apparently was on the itinerary for the trip he's there addressing some south korean border guards and also meeting with other troops there in one of the service buildings which is just next to the famous blue hots up the joint security zone we're still waiting for the arrival of the north korean leader kim jong il. so they're just having a chat inside the service building let's cross over now back to james bays james so we're still. playing the waiting game here if you like and it's interesting because you were urging caution because we're pretty much now on the north korean's schedule just talk us through what you think the choreography will be james.

well if you don't mind aaron i hate to do this i'm going to correct you chris information has come to me this is not actually in one of those service buildings they've gone a bit further away south of humble john to camp 21st that's where the troops say many of the troops who were guard the joint security area why is it called camp on a 1st this is an interesting story it was kept in our football at 1st and the tenant mark barratt's who were killed in 1976 arguably the moment when north korea and the u.s. got the closest to war all of the period since the armistice was signed that's after north korean troops came into the d.m.z. and knocked down the tree and the u.s. objected to that and it led to these 2 u.s.

servicemen being killed and led to a moment where it looked like war could start again and the interesting postscript to this story is among those who were serving there in 1976 was a young special forces soldier from the south korean army called moon he's now president moon standing next to president trump there is ironic james what i mean you've been to the joint security area before james just just describe for us just talk us through the geography of what's there and what we're expecting to happen when when president doesn't leave camp bonifas to head back to or to head to the day or say to meet him. these are all relatively small distances and certainly if you were one of the troops you wouldn't be travelling necessarily in a vehicle you'd probably be walking but president trump being he's the u.s. president and president moon will i think continue to travel in

a motorcade from camp bonifas back to the blue hearts the hearts that straddle the dividing a law and it was between those hearts in april last year the president moon went on the south korean side when chairman kim was on the other side and they cross shook hands across that dividing line and then 1st we saw kim go to the south korean side historic 1st time north korean leader a guard to the south korean side since the end of the korean war in 1953 and then we saw the south korean president that's not the 1st time a south korean had been on north korean soil but still a historic moment a similar historic moment is what we're expecting although certainly president trump originally under the original schedule was about to get on his helicopter again in about 510 minutes and head back latest information from south korean media

. to keep you on tenterhooks here daryn is that trump will meet kim in 4 minutes from now we're being told so at half past the hour we're expecting to see this meeting between the 2 whether that time will slip not not entirely sure but as i described that meeting in april of standing at this very spot while we watch those historic pictures at the time we expected to be something similar of course then the meeting went on and on and on they had various meetings around a table in one of the buildings there they went for a warm long walk just the 2 of them across the. bridge and strolling around the joint security area we're not expecting according to president trump it to be anything like that long and i think the secret service would get very nervous if it

went on too long the plan is for president trump to helicopter out of here reasonably soon and then the plan is that when he is back in seoul we'll have another meeting at another military base because he wants to address u.s. troops and that will involve a speech and i think the president trouble want to speech because he will want the american media remember it we're in the middle of the night in the u.s. you want the american media when they wake up with their breakfast shows not only have the picture of him and kim and potentially him walking in stepping into north korea they want his words about it as well president trump cares about the the pictures the optics the f.e.i. tricks of this he cares about the domestic political implications of it but clearly it's a very important moment for the korean peninsula being watched very closely by south koreans i'd love to know the audience watching the pictures that you are

seeing will find that out at a later stage and certainly in north korea where you only have to t.v. channels which both are totally state controlled this will be once the pictures are edited in the way that the north koreans want to present the narrative they will be iran and i'm sure most north koreans who have televisions which of course is not all north koreans will see them you know james and as we're we're on the countdown clock now waiting for this handshake which we think will happen in the next few minutes or so we've lost live pictures our technology gremlins seem to be creeping in we'll we'll come back to the live pictures james as soon as we can because you can see them also as i can see them you were talking about president trump. they're perhaps stepping over into north korea let me ask you james how comfortable will the u.s. president be stepping over that line into north korea as the south korean president moon j and did in april 27th seen as you've outlined because this time around as

we've seen from some of the live pictures there the security and logistics are not salute nightmare james. i would love to know what is going on the bar hind the scenes and what has been arranged behind the scenes because you have a presidential security meeting one of the most. geo political hot spots in the world and diplomatic protocol you can't just go to the other side to get ready for the presidential visit you have to be invited i wonder how many u.s. servicemen are already waiting on north korean soil i wonder how many secret service agents will be in waiting because the u.s. secret service one of the oldest law enforcement agencies in the u.s. is there to protect the president we've all seen the hollywood movies and they're prepared to take a bullet for their president so this will be

a very well planned hastily planned moment for the u.s. secret service for the u.s. forces in korea when we see this happen in a few moments time the technical difficulties come from the fact there are only are a few cameramen allowed there and they are the live pictures coming from south korean t.v. if you're losing the pictures in the coming in the now it's there and i think i can see south korean t.v. so if something happens when you're not seeing the pictures i will if i see something i will let you know all right james you may have to you may have to does jump in there if you can see the handshake because currently we're looking at pictures from a few moments ago james in terms of the bigger picture despite the lack of any diplomatic preparation for the meeting in terms of the the broader picture how much could this meeting in terms of its significance perhaps help to reset relations

between the u.s. and north korea. we have a faltering diplomatic process. people were worried they were starting to get very worried after the hanoi summit that went badly i think i said on that day actually when i was in hanoi the process isn't dead but it's in trouble and it has been tried in trouble in recent months north korea's been trying to get the u.s. is attention those 2 missile launches they really concerned diplomats diplomats said something needs to happen otherwise this process is going to wither and die and if there is no process you return to what was the status quo which is the status quo that's existed for 66 years which is on a knife edge near war footing and certainly in the early days of president trump's

presidency. when he was calling kim little rocket man and kim was calling him the dough tart there was real fears that this could. turn from this long career in the cold war into a hot war with 2 nations that have nuclear weapons worth in some ways comparing this to iran the other issue that is concentrating president trumps mind it's worth remembering when we talk the talk about iran iran even according to the cia does not currently have nuclear weapons north korea has nuclear weapons it has missiles where how far they could deliver nuclear weapons is unclear but it has nuclear weapons and a delivery mechanism that makes it very dangerous and different from iran and it's also worth comparing the iran nuclear deal with what's going on now this is a top down process to leaders who get on great it seems they seem to have

a very cordial relationship but no actual details negotiate. ation the iran nuclear deal was done the other way around they met at a very low level only near the end if you get the foreign ministers involved and it's worth telling you the presidents never came together to discuss the iran nuclear deal we're now hearing that kim jong un's chief of staff has been seen in public john so that suggests that the leader of north korea in power since 2011 may well also be here very soon everyone is waiting to see him not clear how many pictures we'll see from the other side of busy the divide this time ok as last time it was a very stage managed event when we saw kim when we saw when we saw moon and kim that had been planned for weeks and south korean t.v. had pictures from the north korean side i think we're only getting

a perspective from the south korean side because this is been so hastily arranged james we'll come back to you when we can and please do jump in if you see the live see on your live pictures which we can see here if you see the handshake we'll come back to you in the meantime let's cross over to mason richard he's a professor of international relations and a specialist on u.s. korea relations at hancock university of foreign studies or joins us via skype from the south korean capital mason so just talk us through from your perspective the significance this of of this handshake of the south korean president moon day in called the handshake for peace what does it mean. it's the eyes i'm a skeptic about this version of the way the diplomacy is taking place so i think if it's possible i think it's historic obviously a sitting u.s. president meeting with. chairman kim the leader of north korea. is indeed historically unprecedented if he were to step it were to step over the military

mark asian line into north korean territory that would also be historic and president that but i also think we have the you know it's also in some sense basically meaningless the u.s. doesn't have right now any sanctions concessions in its pocket that it's going to make in my estimation north korea doesn't have any denuclearization concessions that it's willing to make big gap is extremely far apart and it into the day that's what this whole diplomatic process should be about it should be about denuclearization in exchange for sanctions relief and we're no closer to that than we were before you know we were in my estimation not really any closer than we were before singapore so i think it's historic but meaningless about possible so you've outlined the difficulties here. the apparent lack of progress as it were. in south korea how how how do the south koreans view this lack of progress and what do you see as president moving julian's way forward here to break this deadlock. well

the south korean general population like any country in the world you know breaks down into political or ideological divides or if you're an indian's a border generally you are confident or at least hope president will be able to continue to broker a diplomatic process going forward in the hopes that you know something substantive will come out of it if you are on the conservative side of the spectrum i think you're hostile or your daily star skeptical about doing a course there's also a large part of the south korean population just like any country in the world that doesn't really care much at all or at least doesn't pay attention to it they're interested in b.t.s. and shopping and whatever else it is that occupies their time. so that's i think the general population aspect of the question. and you know i think you know the really important thing to keep in mind is that the nuclearization part of things

isn't being in the right direction. for all sides. to move forward to play a role in that but he has some dwindling political capital and he has an economic problems here at home so i think it's less and less likely that he's going to be able to play and efficient role as a facilitator much less a mediator between the u.s. and north korea. what do you think it's so difficult to get. on what the north koreans actually want from these tools i mean as you point out quite importantly we've had no progress on denuclearization but yet we see this sort of codell meeting this one shake which is about to happen between trump came in if as we're told jim mason we're seeing live pictures now from the joint security area lots of people running around just very quickly mason what are the north koreans want. the north koreans want to remain a nuclear power and they want the sanctions. in

a white hole syria would be at work. mason richard in the south korean capital seoul mason thank you for that all right let's cross over now back to domestic and it's a james bone is james just talk us through the pictures we saw a flurry of activity if you will at the joint security area just a few seconds ago one of the talking to mason richie there in seoul just talk us through what we think is going to happen now. yeah let me tell you 1st what we've seen so far very quickly he flew in by helicopter marine one landed. the chair say went then to overlook the area from a high point to see the geography very important for president trump because he likes to see things in person he i'm sure he's been given lots of briefing books we have to doubt whether he's actually read all those briefing books about this so

this is a president who likes visual information and certainly seeing things for himself and then to come bunny faced by motorcade to meet some of the troops and now back to the area of the blue hearts where we believe the meeting is going to take place with chairman kim. james we were we were both watching the press conference earlier between president trump and the south korean president president moon said that president trump has the lead role in bringing about peace on the korean peninsula and he's clearly happy to let president trump take that role isn't he. on the international stage yes but on the korean stage and this is his work as president of south korea it is not just his most important policy it's really the future of his presidency he's invested everything in this effort he's

a left of center president he came to power saying that he was going to try this and that is what he has done and certainly. by the way the pictures we're seeing now of the freedom house on the south korean side those are the pictures that we are watching right now so for president moon yes he's prepared to defer to president trump and i think many leaders have learned that when you've got difficult negotiations with president trump because clearly they've had those trade negotiations as well flattery is useful for president trump he certainly went a long way in that news conference saying that president trump is bringing peace to the korean peninsula that's quite a strong pronouncement when clearly there's no peace deal being signed and no agreement on denuclearization of the korean peninsula but flattery

is what he is using at this stage for president trump i think it's fair to say there are achievements by president you certainly do have a reasonably good report between the u.s. and the north korean leader that's not to be sniffed at you have channels of communication that certainly didn't exist before and president trump certainly is trumpeting the fact that he achieved this and president obama didn't in fact he went. several times made the point in that news conference that president obama tried to talk to kim and kim wouldn't talk to him yet now he is talking to trump trying to show that the trump style. of working the transactional way of doing things is the way to succeed certainly it is got him further than the obama administration but of course it hasn't got him to a final deal and the final deal is still

a very long way off with all these very detailed issues and with north korea still holding all of its nuclear cards all of its miss all of its nuclear enrichment facilities nothing has been given up at this stage james as we're talking to you we're seeing live pictures now coming from the joint security area for our viewers who are just joining are just we're still waiting on this historic i guess handshake between president trump and the north korean leader kim jong un at the demilitarized zone the joint security area the j s a the famous blue huts were expecting perhaps president trump may step over the line into north korea the 1st sitting u.s. president to do serve course. ringback president clinton and president carter went to north korea but not today but but president trump is the 1st sitting president to do so so these are live pictures coming from the demilitarized zone we're still waiting on president trump and chairman kim to meet and we're seeing activity here

as people are waiting for both sides their aides of opening doors and a flurry of activity from the press james as your as we're watching these pictures and waiting for this handshake to happen just talk us through the geography of the jr say what it was what are we looking at here james. i may be sounding a little prescient here daryn because from what your was talking about and what time seeing i think i might be seeing things quite a few seconds ahead of you because i'm certain now seeing on south korean t.v. pictures of the blue hots themselves. we've seen a flurry of activity people running around the reporters reposition to another area looking towards the blue hearts and those blue hearts straddle the dividing line you can sit in a table and be either side of the dividing line and that is how

south korean the north korean officials it's how. military commanders meet and talk about the situation i'm now seeing pictures of president trump certainly moving these are not old pictures moving now in that in the direction of the blue hearts so i think we are pretty imminent to seeing the 2 of them in fact he's walking down the side of the blue hearts where i think we should see. him on the other side daryn tell me if you're seeing these pick us james yes james we're seeing exactly the same pictures here of president working in between the blue huts and in fact there is chairman jim coming from the other side james let's just quickly just watch the pictures and see the historic handshake.

you. know if you. thank. you for there you have it you're watching live pictures there from the demilitarized zone in between north and south korea the joint security area and he stepped over into north korea so this is a pretty historic president donald trump becoming the 1st sitting u.s. president to step over into north korea we saw this with the south korean president moon when chairman can invite them over into the north but this is this is pretty historic pretty significant a gaggle of north korean cameraman surrounding both leaders so they've come up with

they've stepped up into the north and now we're seeing them walk back towards the cameras from the north into the south and president from showing the way to chairman kim he perhaps would step over into south korea let's just watch the pictures for a 2nd. so there it is the 2 leaders standing at the joint security zone the j s a the famous blue huts both leaders as promised getting together having that famous handshake of peace as described by the south korean president let's bring back our diplomatic that is had james bays james just talk us through the significance of this as we see both leaders now in a flurry of the press here at the moment. that was history daryn that was the 1st time a sitting u.s.

president has been in north korea yes it was only a few steps but this will have real resonance on the korean peninsula people on shore are watching this throughout south korea live it's being shown by all of the news channels here they will like to see it in north korea on state t.v. this is the picture of the president trying wanted he certainly is telling everyone this is a spontaneous decision by him at the last minute to invite chairman kim certainly whether it was or not the fact that chairman kim came down here at his beck and call to see him shows that these 2 get on well that the north koreans want to keep the process going they're smiling there and i think they may be talking to the cameras just walked up. to what they're saying the visit. was you want it will be over there is

a reasonable price. for china to find water tomorrow or. right where we seem to last the sound they're not surprising to come in on this look a the sound has come back let us know what they're saying and apologize for the loss of a lot it's that when you future. i just want to say this in my honor. i didn't really expect to be really prepared for the g 20 we came over. and over here i want to hold him there and we got to meet her stepping of course that was a great honor a lot of pride which is a lot of friendships have been made and that's been in particular a great project so i just thank you very quick notice that i want to thank you. on what. you've done.

right. thank you so much. we're going to do a little i would like to put a. lot of really positive things are happening. here it's a tremendous positivity really great things are happening in a lot of places but. we met and we liked each other from day one and that was very important. because one of the. big thing that's that. i never i never. thought of love thank. you. thank you thank you for some reason for inviting them right now because i want to thank you

very much thank you. so there it is historic pictures of a president from becoming the 1st sitting u.s. president to cross over. north korea the joint security or the j.f.k. the famous as promised diplomacy by tweet got a result. meeting with him. kim the north korean leader kim jong un and now we're seeing a press gaggle surrounding both leaders it was very brief let's bring in but james bays our diplomatic editor james as we watch this press scramble happening surrounding both leaders the the secret service agents having a very difficult time keeping everybody back you're seeing the same pictures james president made the point that they they met and liked each other from day one and underlines the point that you were making about this could be a relationship between both men james. and i think it

sums up president trump's way of doing business it is a personal and transactional way of doing things and it's the way a property businessman does things and that is how president trump is doing this as president the way he ran the trump organization it is interesting to see something like this whether this was quite says spontaneous as president trump is making out certainly the reporters as soon as we heard there was a leg to seoul the 1st question was will he meet kim so it must have been in the white house as mind there must be some preliminary discussions even if that's true the fact this was arranged so hastily in a place of such maximum security is something that you probably wouldn't have seen in many other white houses they just don't work like this president trump working

in a very different way historic moment yes a photo op but a photo op that will go down in history the question is whether it is a turning point certainly the decision to have the summit in singapore was a turning point it was the start of a new relationship between north korea and the united states but they've still got to do a deal and they're not yet close to doing a deal on the key question which is north korea's nuclear program north korea has given up nothing at this stage other than cutting back on nuclear testing and not testing any long range missiles the u.s. has not given much to north korea in terms of sanctions relief nothing who all they've done is stop military exercises so in terms of the substance what has changed not much but you do have this working relationship now really quite

friendly relationship between lead to leaders and. you have a channel a line of human occasions that they can build on both of them i think want now rapid progress because both of them have a quite a tight timeline of course president trump's timeline we all know next year is election year in the united states he wants to keep north korea as one of his success stories he does not want this to fail in the next year and be used against him by his democratic challenger whoever that is for the north koreans they don't have to worry and kim doesn't have to worry about intellectual of what he did promise 5 year plan and we're now in the last year of that 5 year plan and he has to really deliver to the north korean people some sort of benefit and for him it would be great if he could at least get some sanctions lifted so the next year absolutely key yeah and i think we heard him saying to the reporters there james after the one shake is that he would invite him to the white house.

which of course would be another historic moment can this relationship continue to survive on photo opportunities even though they are history being made at some point and i'm not i'm not diminishing what we've seen this was a moment of history this will go down in the history books but at some point they need to deal with the actual problem which is north korea's nuclear program and that is going to require teams and teams of experts sitting down and dealing with all the detail of the scientific and the military detail which cannot be dealt with really by 2 leaders they don't have the time they're governing their 2 countries they've got lots else to deal with and i'm not entirely sure that i either of them are detail or interrogated people james i suppose the big question now is ok so

we've had we've had the summit in singapore we had the summit in hanoi nothing yet as you say james has happened in terms of denuclearization we've now had this historic handshake from becomes the 1st sitting president to step foot inside north korea what happens next. absolutely what happens next and that carrot of a trip to washington d.c. to meet the president in the white house i can tell you world leaders all want a trip to the white house it's one of those things that they want because they want good relations with the most powerful country on earth and it's something that's very carefully calibrated in previous administrations when you offer someone that carrot. i would think that this administration would want something in return for that carrot but having said that we've now had zuri meeting with the

north koreans with the u.s. president and previous presidents have not felt it right to meet with the north korean leader and the north koreans have not made much of many concessions remember of course though that this is just one of 2 processes going on there's the process that you're seeing now the leadership diplomacy between. the u.s. and north korea and it is only happening at a leader level but then there is also the separate but very important diplomacy going on between north korea and south korea one could argue that of being slightly more concrete developments there the fact that we've just seen these pictures in the joint security area that used to be a place where everyone was terribly heavily armed one of the agreements that has actually been inactive so far is to remove weapons from that area so that is

a positive development and perhaps some of the more detailed stuff will actually be done as an intra korean level but at some point there are things that the u.s. and north korea has to do have to do in terms of substance and that's going to require some of the officials some of the experts present tramples often derives experts but they are going to have to get involved. this is sam is a die and joining you now james just to explain thanks so much and i'll stay with us though we've got some questions we do want to ask james in a minute but we do now want to touch in with brian get some maybe some reaction rob there if you can hear me about what we've seen which is quite a historic moment we saw that historic handshake we saw the historic. moment over us the 1st u.s. president to step into north korea how's that going down in south korea.

incredible scenes there sammy as you said history in the making yes we saw donald trump step across the border interesting to compare and people are bound to make comparisons here in south korea it's very much following the model that was set by president moon jay inslee big thing with kim jong un last year to start this whole process when again they shook hands and famously president moon stepped across the demarcation line into north korea sorry how many to understand here we go we've got pictures of the 2 leaders meeting let's try and listen in. here. this is the. you. know most. of the i'd like to see a more often. this meeting is still a symbol of peace or between south and the north.

it is showing the difference between how things changed today from yesterday. and how we will move forward in the future. and that's what i thought. it will be all the way we know that although his mind off for. the good 100 we all oh how fortunate hostility has a place to go we are going to look at them for that past also over the user i have provided for you all this you know this is. a real genuine. guy you don't. know much. less.

rup hole between us i don't think there could have been a meeting in 11 face time. for good so we may be able to overcome the hardships and difficulties. based on the possible relationship we'd be would. like him to reveal what we knew because nobody could have been all. right. but i want to thank you here i mean. you hear the power of the buddhist nobody's really that voice before he doesn't. feel better and this was a special moment and this is i think really. the prisoner would say this is a historic moment the fact that we're meeting and i want to thank chairman kim for

something else when i put out the social media notification if he didn't show up to the press was going to make me look very bad so you made a focus that we should that we developed a great relationship i really think that if you go back 2 and a half years and you look at what was going on prior to my becoming president it was a very very bad situation a very dangerous situation for south korea forgot the career for the world and i think the relationship that we've developed has has been so much to so many people and it's just a nod to be with you when it was an honor that us would step over that line and i was proud to step over the line i thought you might do that i wasn't sure but i was ready to do it and i want to thank you it's been great great very historic they were just sitting if one of the folks from the media would say this could be a very historic moment and i guess that's one of the. interesting which. thank you

very much. was i believe the. rabble that. you. or i were watching their life pictures and we did manage to hear a little bit of all the oh there of the 2 leaders speaking addressing the press and each other. kimber noting how quickly and how much things have changed as he put it from yesterday today. and hoping they'll be able to get over the difficulties with the relationship they've built trump on his part thanking the north korean leader for what he called making us both look good noting the price would have had something negative to say had chairman kim not accepted

the u.s. president's invitation to meet over the border let's bring in the perspective of right my bride he joins us from the south korean capital seoul so quite a lot of positive energy there that would be something that no doubt the south korean president will be very happy about. absolutely sammy. has been very much on the sidelines this whole venture a press conference giving all of the credit to donald trump saying that he is the person or will go down as history bringing peace to the korean peninsula heaping praise and flattery on him as he has done throughout this whole process there was a lot of speculation before this took place about whether we would see somehow 3 leaders on that demarcation line between the blue huts as it was. it was just trump

who met with kim one that had the famous handshake moved a step across the border and then back again they've now moved what you've just been watching this is the freedom house this is on the southern side of the armistice village it is already decked out obviously as we've seen there in both the north korean flag and also the stars and stripes we heard donald trump saying we shook hands i didn't know if kim was going to step over the border into the south well they obviously had a room prepared assuming that he would step over there's also a lot of speculation about this narrative which we just heard from donald trump there again saying i just put out the tweet yesterday saturday morning in the hope that something might happen and sure enough it has that this sort of cliffhanger reality t.v. feel to this whole thing whether indeed it was just a tweet or thought at the last moment getting up on

a saturday morning yesterday in osaka japan that has led to this here on this sunday afternoon on the korean peninsula or whether there has been far more planning involved and that the secret service has been involved to see people losing all their different lines of communication but you have to say looking at the. some of the confusion some of the near chaos at times surrounding this whole event that it does have a very spontaneous organic feel to it as though this whole plan has been made up almost on the fly has been developed as it has gone along we've seen secret service people mixing i think with north korean security people holding back of the media they press pool that is followed was allowed in to to witness this moment we've seen a lot of hairiest embassy people running around so it does give you a sense that is has been fairly spontaneous at least and i think to some degree we

have watched this sunday afternoon here on the korean peninsula a little bit of history in the making sami rob where does south korea stand on the question of how grip the ground you will or quick the process of the nuclearized and sanctions relief should be. i mean the south koreans are very concerned about how things have just come to a halt it seems at hanoi at the hanoi summit how their there has remained a stalemate since then and moon j.n. of the south koreans have taken an awful lot of heat from north korea a sense that they've lost an awful lot of their credibility and so this will have been very significant to moon jay and to help restore his great credibility as an intermediary someone who has the not only of the north koreans but also of the u.s. administration so this will be a big boost to the south koreans but in

a earlier news conference jay in a couple of times made references to what should be happening next to try to get things moving again and really made references to some of the or quid nitty gritty that amid all of this giddiness all of this history making maybe we can it's easy to forget about how daunting the prospect is of trying to bring these 2 sides together because they are still miles apart both moon spoke about what should be happening now is this process of denuclearization really has to be moved forward by a step by step approach which means basically a phased approach which is what the north koreans have spoken about all along and the south koreans to some agree to some degree i agree with that you cannot have this big deal if the u.s. proposed it hanoi it has to be some give and take some concessions from either side

it remains to be seen just whether moments like this will lead to serious negotiations something meaningful that takes the process forward something that is a big question perhaps it's time. for him but do stay with us let's go back to our diplomatic james bays he's live in june in south korea that's very close of course . tries. zone jane's got a few moments ago a few minutes ago it's gone 7 g.m.t. let's bring our viewers up to date with what we've just seen we've seen the 2 leaders the u.s. and north korean leader need to have seen the u.s. president become the 1st sitting u.s. president to step into north korea they've had their smiles and greet and they've exchange positive words from each other what is happening now james. i think that's the big question or one of the big questions this really didn't have a shuttle we knew roughly when president will be arriving here but certainly he

should be back in seoul by now and i think the question will be whether there is actually now a meeting between the 2 of them they clearly were sitting down together when the cameras left the room but is this very historic as it is all for the cameras is everything that happens going to be seen by us or will there actually be a chance even for a brief discussion to discuss the more sensitive the harder issues to try and get a process going here that is not clear at this stage whether president trump and kim will stay there in the room and whether actually they'll be a bit of pushing from both sides rather than just the very positive words both men have said clearly this injects a life into a process that many had feared was faltering that is a good thing but there is a lot of substance and substantive issues and very complex issues regarding the

security the military dimension and the scientific and nuclear dimension to all of this that need to be sorted out that the 2 are going to sort it out now but maybe they can start a process to sort it out the only actual concrete thing we heard mentioned in their comments to the media. it was the idea that kim should travel to washington to the white house i'm guessing perhaps just speculation on my part maybe september during the u.n. general assembly could he address the u.n. and go to the white house that will be another moment of history but again it would be the 2 leaders meeting and it would be historic picture for the world there is details here there is a nuclear program that has not been sorted there is the most extensive sanctions on any country in the world that's not been sorted at some point someone has to deal with the actual substance of all this i mean.