it's in iran. they hear opinion leaders say they will not disciplinary measures against iran after the u.n. nuclear watchdog confirmed that it had breached the stockpile limit which had been agreed under the 2050 nuclear deal bots there edging to not to go forward with a plan to reduce its compliance under that agreement al-jazeera zain. from tehran. with just days to go before iran is expected to take another step in its plan to reduce cooperation with a 2050 nuclear deal president hassan rouhani had an angry rebuke for the united states. over the past one year it is then was started to light the fire extinguisher if you say it is dangerous to play with fire why did he start it rouhani was responding to comments by president donald trump after the international atomic energy agency or the i.a.e.a. on monday confirmed iran had breached an agreed stockpile limit for enriched

uranium you know what they're doing you know what they're playing with and i think they're playing with fire the u.s. pulled out of the deal last year imposing ever widening economic sanctions including stopping iran from exporting excess nuclear material another example iran says that illustrates the u.s. is to blame for how fragile the 2015 deal or joint comprehensive plan of action has become caught in the middle attempts by europe to salvage the j.c. have not worked iran sees europe's lack of stronger public condemnation of american sanctions as a weakness the instrument in support of trade exchanges or in sticks a banking bypass to mitigate u.s. sanctions essentially an oil for good scheme iran's president says is tokenism. so far has been showing off it could be an acceptable action if there was real money in it now it's like a bank without money so why should people come to this bank. this is a critical time for the nuclear deal if nothing changes by sunday july 7th iran

says it will start enriching uranium at higher purity levels and will expand the scope of nuclear activity stopped with the signing of the deal. with you don can see there is no way in the interest of the region and the world the best thing for america to do is return from their mistake but runs out of patience world leaders are running out of time rolling back on the deal is meant to be a way for iran to take back some autonomy with regards to its nuclear program something it gave up for economic relief that iranians say they have yet to fully experience it's also meant to call into question the commitment of the remaining signatories to the 2015 deal worried that this diplomatic stress test might be the thing that breaks it. down. in iraq have put out a blaze at a strategic oil pipeline south of mosul the 6 explosive devices went

off in. that's a village 70 kilometers south of missile a pipeline links cook to. port so to come here. the chinese government hong kong to find those responsible for damaging the legislature building in monday's protests. after an israeli cold rules in their favor. we've got the usual wide spread hot sunshine across see a middle east a little more cloud you can just see making its way towards the eastern side of pakistan but i think even here in restraint dry up towards to minustah and into the

stand you could catch one or 2 light showers essentially looking at the temperatures getting into the low to mid thirty's then mid thirty's to 4 to run hot sunshine once again for baghdad and for kuwait city we could touch 30 degrees celsius in beirut is simpler than sunshine along the shores of the mediterranean sunshine across the reagan peninsula here in doha temp just touching 42 celsius get up there are 44 as we go on into friday so the heat is starting to build once again southern parts of the peninsula southern areas of a man could just catch one or 2 showers so it keeps it great along the coasts of saliva for example one of the showers a possibility into the far south of africa but for much of the region southern africa is looking lassie dry temperatures in cape town at around 15 celsius or 22 the minimal cloud tonight is just pushing up towards the coastal fringes of mozambique but it should stay dry for the showers continue across central africa the heaviest of which around the gulf of guinea.

jordan's native tribes constitute roughly half the population in a country with more refugees per capita than any other nation. with an ailing economy and concerns over the trumpet administration's anticipated plans for the region tensions are running high. people in power investigates increasing calls for reform as the state endeavors to control political dissent within the hashemite kingdom jordan and retry on and just 0.

tolerance to take over the top stories here at al-jazeera the u.n. secretary general antonio guterres has called for an independent investigation into the attack on a migrant detention center in libya which killed at least 44 people on the un security council is due to hold an urgent meeting only be able in the coming hours the un recognized government in tripoli has blamed the strike on forces loyal to the warlord holly for hafter but moments ago a spokesman for half the denied targeting the migrant camp. has been international condemnation of the attack the european new union called it shocking and tragic and has called on the libyan authorities to better protect migrants. that israel has returned several fishing boats it confiscated from gaza fisherman it was ordered to do so by an israeli court after human rights organizations said

the boats were seized illegally matheson reports from gaza city. this is one of dozens of books which the israelis confiscated from gaza fishermen it's here because back in may an israeli court said that the boat should be returned this one had to come back by land because it's so badly damaged it can float the owner says he's going to need about $70000.00 to repair it not sure 13 families worked on this boat everyone ended up without a job if we can rebuild the boat we can fish again and we can repay our loans to get the boat repaired and ready for fishing needs thousands of dollars confirmation that the boats were going to be returned came in as part of an agreement was reached at the end of june in the agreement hamas said it was going to stop people in gaza flying balloons carrying incendiary devices over the border into israel and it said it would also control the protests that really happening at the border every friday as part of what's called a march of return for its part israel said that it would continue to allow fuel

into gaza for gaza's only power station and it would extend the fishing limits for gaza fisherman and it would return the boats since that agreement in june the protests on the gaza side border have been fired but has threshold truces and cease fires and agreements like this can be very fragile particularly in this region people on the israeli side of the border as well as the gaza side of the order are waiting to see if this if it holds. because in nairobi has sentenced one man to life in prison and another 2 to 41 years in jail after being found guilty of helping to carry out an attack on a university in kenya where 149 people mostly students were killed catherine sawyer reports from the kenyan capital. when the chief magistrate made his ruling 2 weeks

ago to clear that the convicts would get hefty sentences 41 years for 2 of them and life in prison for a 3rd was believed to be for tanzania and according to the trenchards he is say to have been more connected to the gunmen he was found at the premises of the university after the attack was found hiding under a bed and when he was asked his explanation was and clear he was also found with paraphernalia that suggested he would carry out an atrocity now this is a case that many kenyans have been following and it is the conclusion of the 1st case involving a major terrorism incident and it really sets the pace at the president to other such related cases that are still in court for example we're waiting for the ruling of another case involving an attack that was carried out back in 2030 in the westgate mall attack that happened in our market area here in the city 67 people

were killed so it's really going to be interesting to see how all that plays out going forward we've also been talking to relatives of those who died of the guy recently versity and survivors as well and it really is a mixed bag bag of emotions some are saying that well we're happy because justice has finally been so even if it has taken a long time but others are saying we don't have that closure that we thought would get the spoke to one woman in particular who lost her and say that she feels that and she blames the government for failing. and everyone who died everyone who was affected in that attack so she says that apart from this people who are in the dark apart from these people who have been sentenced she also wants to see government officials who she believes filled has dos and others she also wants to see them held to account. china's ambassador to the u.s. . has been summoned over quote an acceptable comments after he warned britain to

stay out of the hong kong protests or risk damaging their relationship though it comes as police have promised to prosecute those involved in monday's protests which left the legislative council vandalized andrew thomas reports from hong kong . on monday night they were protesting on cheese day night they were taking down the collage of protest posters and notes they had left behind protestors in hong kong say they want to keep an archive of their struggle but many think monday's vandalism went too far this is not what i expect while i expect this to not to go too far just. peaceful many protesters don't want to show their faces for fear of arrest but this man was one of those who broke into alleged hong kong's parliament on monday night he justifies the action we're going to hurt and the police we just want to get through the day and find cover as well and do our

message to the world and other older protester thinks that by not intervening earlier police deliberately allowed violence knowing it would reflect badly on the protesters even so he to feel to ballance against property was justified high on the teaching are you coming my generation failed to do enough for the last 20 years i've got children i fear for them there was violence it was against property not people we need to keep the protests of. these protests began over an extradition bill that would have sent suspects to mainland china for a trial they've now turned into calls for greater freedoms part of the battle is about public opinion and most people in hong kong did not take part in monday's protests instead of watching them on t.v. if they felt the violence went too far that could hurt the protest discourse on that opinions a mixed with broadly a split between older and younger people in an upmarket tea shop that supports the

protesters action for me i think it's reasonable to deny her any people or day doing. right by anyone they don't burn a car they don't read to shop but elsewhere there's irritation of the violence like a mole or leaking it's not good it was wrong they broke all the government stuff citizens shouldn't do this july the 1st was the climax of months of protests there aren't any more planned but protesters say they're not over andrew thomas al jazeera hong kong. more than a 1000000 people in japan have been ordered to leave parts of the island of cuba because of warnings of landslides and floods caused by tarantula rains officials have been urging locals in the cities of cattle shima and mia's zaki to immediately move to safety after one resident was killed in a mudslide the prime minister shinzo i.v. has ordered the military to prepare for rescue operations. we want

people to take action to protect their lives by evacuating early in accordance with the evacuation advisory. rahul gandhi has resigned as leader of india's main opposition party the indian national congress the 49 year old led his party's campaign during this year's general election and suffered a major defeat against the governing b j p he was hoping to become the 4th member of his family to be elected prime minister but he says he is morally responsible for his party's poor performance shruti capital areas lecture at the faculty of history at the university of cambridge and she says his resignation doesn't necessarily mean the end of the gandy dentist in indian politics. but it is a catch 22 for the indian national congress it is highly identified by the narrow gandhi family and yet most people most indian in the indian indian electorate has reacted badly to the dynastic nature of leadership in it so i think now the party

faces a crisis as in terms of who to make responsible of to make the face of leadership in this party i don't think that mr gandhi orissa story even his mother a leaving the political scene but i think what they're trying to do is to actually sort of come up with a sort of 2nd tour of leadership for 4 and this shows that actually around gandhi himself wants to take on the fight in terms of ideology that is incredibly clear from his statement and this is the resignation letter was not simply about the hands out but was actually saying well india needs to be careful it is entering a dangerous iraq where institutions are being taken over by a so-called authoritarian government and the congress needs to fight that system so i think in a way he's saying well i think he's going to be as it were a moral or an ideological force but he's not going to leave the day to day running of the party to someone else the discovery of

a large coal reserve in southern pakistan has changed the way families have lived for generations women in paul rule communities mostly worked in the home or in the fields but now a new coal plant in farka is offering these women an opportunity to earn money a sob interviewed reports. until last year no success she did not even know how to ride a bike now she's among a dozen women who drive 60 ton trucks in pakistan's largest open pit coal mine motivic a delegate that i was afraid when i saw the truck at 1st but now i am not it's a source of livelihood for a family. she begins her day by heading to the rails because there's no running water in her village traditional what have been their homes for centuries extended families live in clusters of the structures. lord has increased she says her new

job has given her confidence and a lot more money. finally it was about love i find that i bring water from the wells wash clothes cook food for the family look after the children as well. 80 percent of pakistan's poor live in rural areas people here in the southwestern region of the parker face poverty illiteracy and a lack of basic services. many of the districts one and a half 1000000 people struggle to find jobs the recent call extraction project has created opportunities for many locals here most of the women are from conservative hindu families they get married young look after their children tend to the field in cattle so becoming a truck driver is not just a job they see it as empowerment which is changing the way their society has functioned for generations. those traditions in both hindu and muslim communities mean male guardians decide if women can work you know. it's the tradition of thought that we don't allow our females to go out for work except to bring water

and to work in the fields sometimes they do embroidery at home but i told my daughter she could drive very much proud of how. many husbands had to be invited to see the work environment before they allowed their wives to become drivers the trainers believe these types of jobs will help future generations as well problems i will take it all up while he is going up by the women of many problems with this training we want to create awareness on how to look after themselves and their children and how to interact with the people around them the women of the park or have thrived despite the hardships they face 73 percent turned up to both last year even the 1st hindu woman to contest elections on a non minority seat came from this region. social workers see economic opportunities help women like this in many ways including the chance to earn an independent livelihood have a job you don't have here or there parker said in pakistan.

travers take a look at the top stories here it out 0 the un secretary general has called for an independent investigation into the attack on a migrant detention center in libya which killed at least 44 people the security council's due to hold an urgent session on the bia in the next couple of hours the u.n. recognize government meanwhile has blamed the strike on forces loyal to the warlord holly for half the moments ago a spokesman for half the denied targeting the migrant camp there's been international condemnation of the attack the european union called it shocking and tragic and has called on the libyan authorities to better protect migrants. iran's president says if its partners in the 2050 nuclear deal don't fulfill their promises iran's nuclear reactor will return to previous activities how some rouhani says after july the 7th it will go to whatever level is needed.

firefighters in iraq have put out a blaze of the strategic oil pipeline south of most saw the fire started after 6 explosive devices went off in a head that's a village 70 kilometers south of mosul the pipeline links kirkuk to turkey is just hun port. china's ambassador to the u.k. has been summoned over an acceptable comments after he warned britain to stay out of the hong kong protests or risk damaging their relationship it comes as police have promised to prosecute those involved in monday's protests which left the legislative council vandalized. rahul gandhi has resigned as leader of india's main opposition party the indian national congress. campaign during this year's general election but suffered a major defeat. come the 4th member of his family to be

elected prime minister. all right up to date headlines i'll be back in about half an hour with a full news coming up next a story. refugees caught up in libya's civil war at least 44 people died in an airstrike on the micro center in tripoli in what the u.n. calls a war crime who's behind the attack and how will it affect efforts to end the conflict this is inside story.

hello and welcome to the program on iran kong african migrants have become the latest victims of libya's civil war at least 44 people died in an asteroid on a detention center in the capital tripoli the u.n. special envoy to libya is calling it a war crime and the un recognized government in tripoli is blaming a warlord a khalifa haftar whose forces have been fighting to seize the city the victims are among tens of thousands of africans opens across the mediterranean sea just starts a new life in europe elect here brian as more. traumatized and scared they wait outside the migrant camp that was the temporary hollowed out there among the hundreds of thousands have come to libya in search of a base on life across the sea in europe. for some here that dream is now on the

victims of a conflict that has nothing to do with them. this is the same to just a few months ago fullest people have spent days a week straddling through the days it often in brutally hot temperatures and at the hands of smugglers. it's those about 600 people living here the path that was hit in an airstrike late on tuesday night about 150 main refugees and migrants many from west africa. we. want you. to. know what we don't know. like. what would. the un recognise government in tripoli as blaming rival forces for the attack saying it was deliberate. the situation in libya has become increasingly

volatile since april when forces loyal to wall old khalifa haftar launched an offensive to control the capital hundreds of people have been killed and tens of thousands displaced in the fighting. forces most of whom are part of the self declared libyan national army have carried out several air raids on tripoli in recent days after losing the town of nearby. the violence has worsened the suffering in migrant attention centers some close to the front lines which has those pushed back by the european funded libyan coast. the un's describe the conditions in the same tis as appalling with little food and water repeatedly calling for them to be closed people are being brought to the detention centers faster than we can evacuate them they're being brought to libya after being rescued or intercepted by the libyan coast guard

a rate that's quicker than we can get people out so we need a new policy that we need to see a renewed effort this season ends to people being returned to libya no refugees should be returned to libya at this time there's growing condemnation of tuesday's attack and calls for someone to be found accountable but for now these migrants a stock in the middle of libya's rivals and they battle for control alexia brian for inside story. khalifa haftar is offensive on tripoli has derailed a un peace initiative to reconcile libya's rival powers. there's the un recognized government led by prime minister fails us or ours in tripoli the capital in the west the government of national accord is backed by most western nations as well as qatar and turkey and in the east of libya there's the brook based parliament the center of power for holy fire have to he's backed by egypt saudi arabia the united arab emirates as well as france and russia. i.

let's bring in our guests joining us in paris moustapha turi academic and contributor to our monitor news website in san antonio texas months or. professor of politics at the university of texas at sutton san antonio and author of libya's gadhafi the politics of contradiction and in london and elgar marty founder and director of sadik institute the 1st public policy think tank in libya i'd like to begin in san antonio. this has been called a war crime by the united nations why hasn't have to responded to the charges coming from tripoli saying that he was behind this attack were you shooting your. united nations serious or. not because it's a good deal now this 1st of all who fired those things that. then perhaps you can

say that when told of options let's just wait before you call them walker we're not i'm not i don't support i don't support what was clearly those those those refugees but i think 1st of all we have to see who was responsible for this because before all the same thing happened if the boat rides then the others will atrocities they committed so i think we just hold off on this for just a 2nd and in london tripoli has been very quick to assign blame for this it just goes to show that libya's various parties are far from reconciled on any of this but no evidence has been put forward for this now what happens next what's what's the next move for tripoli to prove if this was indeed hell if after. but it's certainly not difficult to source of lincoln to conduct an investigation to conclude which of the warring parties was involved in this. force

has been conducting air raids in the district it was a raid conducted against the demand group which is a brigade that is known as the counter migration brigade and it was it was told in the complex so i think it would be stupidity of the highest order for the for the g. and a for the internationally by government to strike its own forces and i think the logical conclusion is that it was either a strike from a what your base which is coming from western libya or there was a drone strike from eastern libya and had them a base but i never asked the question to conduct or at least cannot think of estimation that would determine with some degree of proof from where the sorties flew from from where the drones or the you avi's or the or the the migs that left these are bases where it came from and i think even the shrapnel of the of the of the missiles that was struck would give some degree of evidence as to where there's a strikes were launched from well that's a very interesting point and several. military camps need it where this detention

facility is of actually visited detention facilities like this in libya the conditions are incredibly bad but why have them so close to military facilities is it simply because of a lack of space and was this a mistake. i don't think i don't think these kind of mistakes happen you know i really don't i think intension perhaps was too close to those those though the 3 g. county case they already have and there's even some people wishing that there would be it so that i don't want to be black i don't like them seems sex and this kind of thing i don't i think i think if it was done that it was the love of it if it was not done that it was didn't do it but this is this is the issue of war you're dealing with that with a. conflict that there's no border and no lives and it is there's no there is no actual combatants which you can say this won't be long as well but also that you don't this is

a problem with with civil wars such as the one that we have in libya today and i asked let me bring you in how you were disagreeing that you're shaking your head. whitely shaking your head yeah i think you know within the well the security infrastructure in libya is well known the genie groups that are fighting against kind of a half there in tripoli alone and their locations are well known but also the infrastructure that houses the barracks the military barracks is a limited infrastructure meaning that certain on groups or a limited number of armed groups and he has a limited number of complexes those complexes are only not only used to house the fighting forces in tripoli but also has in the in the specific tasks or the specific designated groups of the supposed to be pursuing such as the migration or the migrants and refugees that are being pursued by this group by the demographer that order that complex is well known very nearby complex in ma to get a base also hosts a cancer force that has been capturing oysters for the last 5 years and has got a complex within which to hold his own forces its force but also its intelligence units and the prisons and the defenses that there's that they use for isis so that

architecture is well known it's certainly well known to the armed groups that are in tripoli is certainly well known to the armed groups that are striking tripoli from kind of after so there was no mistake this was a deliberate act and it was one that was done with we shouldn't we shouldn't try to paint this as a as the armed groups are going to forcibly putting migrants are putting isis at risk unnecessarily davis searchers limited we know that but more importantly here is that if i have their nose there and to think about kind of after is act in isolation is morally reprehensible we know that if there has not only struck this camp but was struck in camps and has armed groups entered into a company to an odd months ago at the beginning of the conflict in the airport road complex around the airport where complex and struck another number of refugees and migrants killing around 40 so this isn't the 1st time it's a deliberate act it wasn't a systematic the human support the humanitarian support system in libya was the 1st to be targeted ambulances ambulance drivers 1st the 1st attend the medics these are 1st of all that fell during the conflict so it sounds more like

a systematic than it sounds like an isolated accident or something that was was just you know a mistake and a gaffe that was made which is that month. yeah i see you shaking your head a very violent on that tell me what is your response i'm sorry this is i mean do you want to make. good ok is it over but this is to be i don't think people a bloodthirsty just we could have been thirsty i don't think he is going to strike those 2 good oh today i'm going to strike those people out there that's not true then what's the real reason. to strike that if he did strike that so what are the weapons inside of the water isn't that. so doesn't not cache on something must have been there you know just most people when isis or 2 more want to strike there are 3 g. cumple that this is nonsense ok you want to be no got find make him a no go but he's going to not this do yoga well until there is an investigation so we find out actually who was responsible today there is

a wider issue here i just want to bring our guest in paris emma soffa fertility the u.n. the united nations have been very clear they've said that these migrants can't keep being returned to libya it's putting them at homes risk same by this strike that libya is not a safe place for these people to go back to why are they being forced to go back to libya. well i think i think this is one of the arrangements that have been done with the new libya between the i mean the only being. a few years ago and. especially with the italian government the new italian government about 2 years ago and the arrangement such that the any migrants who are taking off from libya shores. will be if they are caught somewhere in the way towards europe specifically if they are within the libyan territory waters there will be sent back to libya and then the. international really organization for migration along with

the libyan local authorities are supposed to care of them for a while and then reprocess them in some way and rode me to try to convince as many of them as possible to send them back and then actually they had been you know kind of regular of flights taking back migrants with their own countries but the problem here i guess is. that that would not so of course solve the migration problem there will always be migrants in libya and fortunately there will be more and more tragedies like the one we saw today and last night actually be as long as there is a conflict they are the always the vulnerable people they are the area underdogs and there is no there is no way to stop this unfortunately it's a very tragic event but that there is no other way to prevent that i mean there's no actual way the other thing is there's no you know if i had correctly there was some kind of argument between the guests before i join you you know that that

probably decide can be blamed on that side or destroys the i don't want this treaty if there is any any any either of the 2 sides that libby them softer originated for . militias are actually doing this deliberately it's very far fetched idea most likely what they're using is. conventional weapons you know with very kind if used in then specifically random shelling as or bombing like the case at hand seems to be and no one who would be 101 somebody at the end of the day for this tragedy i mean did there were there would never be any kind of independent verification or investigation of what really went the one who was responsible for that just like many saw so many other tribe is we have been you know living with the libya since 2011 have fortunately but need speak 2 months old. there is

a there is a resolution to this if you go all the parties around the table and had a peaceful resolution a political resolution then these tragedies would stop happening why is that not happening why is the peace process aiming lee de relit almost every opportunity. because i did not decree different perspectives here i need basis and i let not tell you my perspective look at it so i do and i think a large number of individuals in without my part of this the country who would more than say i'm a secularist i want a separation of church and state and i'm not willing to live under 10 centry i do not unfortunately you have so much dominated by precisely these people so i mean. the incompatibilities so clear that is and every day is becoming worse and worse and worse they're not due to give up their point of view and these are going to be

mugs point of view i mean ultimately i mean i hate to say this and i don't i don't favor it but ultimately if it might lead to the breakup of libya that's if people are free to live the way they want to if they want to be. it's not mixtape they want to have it or. be my guests have the ocracy we don't simple as this as this is this is the this is the heart of this issue the heart of the issues that they want to impose upon the east a certain form of government this is basic this isn't you're going to see and at last in london there's no common ground says our guest inside and so on yet there's no way these parties can reconcile is that true. you know what he's saying is actually saying that in that is far more dangerous and i think it comes down to a narrative that has been sold over the last 8 years that an in a region of 3 $185000000.00 people in the middle east north africa that somehow it's either going to be the generals or it's the chaos and tyranny of isis and

that's seems to be a very narrow way of looking at the world and it's we should call it what it is dog whistling because in the west and in europe at the moment there is this rise of populous that also view the world in that way that arabs and muslims can't be democrats or they can't do secular democracy of they can't live under the kind of rules or set about the kind of values that we want and the only people that can do that are apparently the secular and the only secular is there available the army the military to be there algeria libya egypt potentially even in tennessee and excellence in the next so i think that's a really bad argument to make and i think it's not one that holds truth. and the 1st of the matter is after is not pursuing if you had a 60 severely him a dog whistle and try to tell everybody in the world that he's perceiving so if you had his but if we look at the the chaos and anarchy in the carnage that was wreaked upon the place that is telling is that he lives in from and that's where he represents the east of libya benghazi that the birthplace of the revolution a quote unquote care of terrorism operation that was conducted the displaced 800000 people from benghazi and 100000 people the international media were referred to as

isis or isis families by the l n a spokesman at one must mahdi but in looking at media were referred to as turks and jews because they're from a different ethnic tribal sect and a rather different ethnic tribal group ing from the civic tribes of benghazi that most of them or the majority of them led the revolution or or established some of the on the groups and that was intolerable to the group after holes today the bedouin groups that are now in control of and i think that's what we should also be focusing on in his 2nd operation in that in that we were told that it was al qaeda that were in control because that group isis not if i have to so we can call them isis so we have to call them al qaeda in that city at the end of an 183-0000 light scene a quarter of the population is either dead in jail or displaced that doesn't sound like a narrow catto isn't it to me it sounds like a fight between the local citizens of that of that place and if you look at the groups that if i have to used to lead the offensive that came from the bordering towns the bedouin bordering towns of n. model when they left after the campaign they spray painted welcome to the new model

over the name of that in there in the city so let's not dog whistle and call people terrorists because it's got real life implications you're concerned about the polarization but you are using a word like terrorist terrorist isn't just a normal word it's a pejorative term and it green lights drone strikes green lights wholesale executions of people and that's what we've seen about her. to please i would i would argue and urge months or to use less polarizing language and to call things as they are. just very quickly what's your response so don't put words in my mouth ok i did not say i paid terrorists i didn't even bring up the would of terrorists i didn't see any of that were going on the told the truth you know living under a $0.10 or theocracy. you are you work waking up to see what terrorism i'm not you do that. ok you don't accept the many things that the us a country let's bring in

a letter or email us your thoughts i really have my stuff i want to come see you in paris now there has been a complete disagreement between our 2 guests in san antonio and in london i just want to get to the heart of the thought that there seem to be very eerie 2nd irreconcilable ready differences here how do we get these parties to the table to talk how do we keep libya together. there is gnome there is no you know magic to do this there is no magic way there is no easy way either i am one of the optimistic persons i would like to see. stable nimbys for libya and i always wanted this time to have been true some guy and the political and bisa brought but unfortunately the fact is there is no there is no other way than violence to stabilize libya and bring back the country i am now i'm not i'm not defending anybody. any any party to the current conflict around tripoli i

am not to blame in this side or that side but eventually there is no other way and the reason i say this under the bridge railing circumstances which have i mean politically socially and security wise which we had been living. under libyans i mean since 2012 under these circumstances there is no there is no other way to bring about anything any kind of stability in libya unless with violence i mean somebody has to beat somebody out of the battle this take this going on me i fight is the mother saying. something different i'm not sure sort of stuff i thank you very much for that i just want to say what you're saying is that they need to be a fight to the death a fight to the last man standing. let me start with you. do you agree with

this is about a strong man reemerging you already had one of those and colonel gadhafi doesn't need another strong man. i hope not i really do hope not and the last thing i want to see is libya falling back into a dictatorship if for the gives good that we have for 2 years because he was about to take this data it's got that what i'm trying to tell you has been simple i'm trying to tell you that ultimately the libyans have to decide what they want to beat those who want to be had to have an islamic state they can have it is the state they can be free to do what they want to do those who don't can be as one said to me is the catholic nottage is really not we can we can we can then we can get to get kids of that you can check the public as look after public this is the role that we have been here that i bought. and i said london i just want to bring you in to have. a strongman needs to realize that's what we've heard what do you think. i think it's simple i think honestly to go back to the policy oriented or

solution oriented way forward is that we need to look away from the national level of political elites that are trying to strike a grand bargain with each other or would actually separate the country between 2 or 3 different states a look at the local level a lot of the riff that emerged not only in the last 23 months of this conflict but as most of a has rightly pointed out since those 11 stem from this kind of polarizing dehumanizing language that puts one camp in one area and says either for example if you're a deficit that somehow you have no right to the country and you have no right to play a role in the country and you have no rights to to govern locally in the way that it ought to govern the country or if it's the day in those on my team or we're talking about if we don't like this group will call them feel it their protests or we'll call them islamists or call them terrorists or call them jihadists that kind of language is not going to be good for anybody going down the line and what libya desperately needs is a reconciliation process along local tribal lines or an ethno tribal lines city states in regions that would include things that are practical so it could be a power sharing agreement between different tribes that are full of that since

those 11 it could be a reconciliation process among some of the groups that have fought since those 11 but we have to abandon that really polarizing language and learn to live with one another and we are certainly running out in a going to have to stop you there because i do want to come to new stuff in paris our guests are saying there are options it doesn't have to be violence it doesn't have to be strong and just very quickly are you still convinced that there has to be a violent solution to the conflict in libya. well. it's not that i am convincing you know i'm convinced or believe in wind and sun as the only way but they're already said you know under debris fading circumstances that we have been under. since 2012 actually there is no other way and the reason i say this how could you conduct a beast full day log among the equal libyans in the conclusive lucifer brosius you know and like the road member bows by mr science and amodio and then war under the

attractive militias an arm of the groups don't regardless of their ideology even a criminal groups who are cutting the roads who are extorting and who are kidnapping to be able and for ransom and so on and so forth how could you do that sorry we are at a time gentlemen thank you very much and thanks to all our guests stuff of authority. and ask. and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al-jazeera dot com and for further discussion as well facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story and you can also join the conversation on twitter handle is at a.j. inside story for me imran khan and the whole team head by for now.

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the u.n. secretary general has expressed outrage at the bombing of a migrant center in libya that killed 44 people the un security council is preparing to hold an emergency session within the next hour or so to discuss the attacked and the un's mission in libya called the strike a cowardly act which could constitute a war crime now there's an estimated $670000.00 refugees migrants and asylum seekers in the country the un recognized government in tripoli has blamed the strike on forces loyal to the warlord really for half the but a short time ago a spokesman for hofstra denied responsibility. we were surprised to see the false claims that the migrant camp was targeted the syria houses no migrants and no libyan civilians. the weapon supply coming from misrata came through this point therefore we destroyed. a legitimate target of our enemy. if the claims are

true they brought those illegal migrants to that area on purpose therefore we're innocent it was a legitimate target and 17 minutes later the migration center was destroyed 17 minutes later. right let's join our correspondent now mahmoud. in the libyan capital tripoli mahmoud tell us what you have discovered since the the attack happened which is i guess almost 24 hours ago what have you managed to ascertain. well there are the casualties were transferred to several medical hospitals here and medical centers in the capital tripoli we visited some of these medical centers and we are really 2 of the scenes migrants wondered and. migrants just being in in medical centers from different african

nationalities including sudanese mali. and also more all kinds each one of them has a different story but these same. share the same. tragedy the tell us. horrible stories about what happened to their friends that some of them lost their friends their filleted citizens who took that whole tough journey with them all the way from sub-saharan. countries across the desert in libya and then also some of them were detained in libya to italy waters months ago when they were trying to cross the mediterranean to europe and then they were brought to detention centers in the capital tripoli many of them are wondering what they have no idea what is happening i spoke to some migrants and also more today they

didn't just wondering why they're being targeted and they have no idea the have been caught in detention centers months ago the couldn't have a chance to. contact the very embassies they have not been visited by their diplomatic missions and they have not been able to be sent back to their own countries. now the government here is saying that those who have died. did they will probably be buried here if their countries are not demanding their corpses and also for the wanted the government says that those who have minor injuries they have received treatment at the hospitals and then they were released but those who have to stay longer in hospitals did not know what's happening next they are afraid that they might be sent to other detention centers again it's a tragedy because most of these migrants have been detained for months and they

don't have any contact with the outside world right and this is interesting so as we understand it then many of these migrants who are being detained in centers like this one at the jura they've been apprehended if you like by the libyan coast guard in the mediterranean mediterranean and brought back and then put into detention what is the plan now how are they what is the process for these people or are they just indefinitely kept in these detention centers. well. it's somehow disorganized because the libyan government is helpless the officials here and the state institutions are very busy in the fight against forces loyal to the warlords really for have to the state institutions are very busy fighting against have to his forces in southern tripoli and didn't have real

concrete plans towards these migrants but the let international organizations like the international organization for migration the are and. also doctors without borders to visit these migrant detention centers every now and then but as you know most of these migrants they were detained in the mediterranean and libya's coast guard said that it's their right the coast guard patrols right to detain there was a migrants as long as they have entered libya illegally sealed off the libyan course towards europe illegally and they have been detained in libya's little waters but they say that they cannot send them back to their countries because this is against international humanitarian law but at least they're letting the letting international humanitarian institutions or organizations to visit them from from

time to time some other migrants do not have any word to goal have been told here today some migrants told me really. strange that they do not have anywhere other than the detention center around. thank you very much indeed lockwood up to one head reporting live from the libyan capital tripoli. well as we've already mentioned the u.n. security council that's due to start its imagines the meeting within the hour also i do believe rob reynolds is our correspondent who's there at u.n. headquarters in new york and rob so the a measure is he session due under way shortly with head from the u.n. secretary general himself that's right martin some extremely strong images brought to us by mahmoud another journalist from tripoli and the u.n.

and its officials are responding with strong words at least the secretary general antonio gates year says he is outraged by the reports of multiple fatalities at the libyan refugee and migrant center here is the secretary general spokesman said. he condemns this horrendous incident in the strongest terms and he expresses his deepest condolences to the families of the victims and wishes a requip recovery to those injured the secretary general calls for an independent investigation of the circumstances of this incident to ensure that the perpetrators are brought to justice it is important to note that the united nations had provided exact coordinates of the detention center to the parties. now my apologies i mispronounced the name of the spokesman it's us to fund do sharks but martine the next steps will involve

a independent fact finding an investigatory body by set up by the libyan government that is recognized by the united nations they will be doing that work what happens next remains to be seen we talked to about the implications for war crimes as some u.n. officials including the commissioner high commissioner for. human rights us let has said as a possible outcome of this that this could be a war crime he said that that really really revolves a largely around the question of intent in other words if the bombing force was intending to destroy a building full of helpless migrants and refugees and that would bear heavily on findings of criminality so the u.n.

security council as you mentioned martine is getting ready to receive a briefing behind closed doors today here within the hour we will of course be standing outside hoping to get some words with the ambassadors as they go in and as they come out to see what the united nations plans to do or say next about the terrible events in tripoli runnels for now thank you very much indeed drop of course will keep us right across those developments at the u.n. in milk fanatics now that's going to elena raikes who's the international rescue committee is reasonable direct to europe and north africa and she's joining us live from paris thanks for talking to us what are your observations and about the issues at play in this tragic situation. what happened last night is devastatingly sad and is a stark reminder of just how much security has deteriorated in libya over the last

few months and the grave danger that migrants who are in detention now in there are still 3800 migrants in detention centers just like the one that was attacked last night. in extreme case state of vulnerability but also i'm reminded of the wider impact on the population in the tripoli area there have been now over 100000 people who've been displaced by the conflict over the last 3 months and oversee migrants who are in detention are the most vulnerable because they not only are living in incredibly difficult conditions but they also don't have the possibility to flee to safety areas of the city and there are all those notably among them the un high commission for refugees the un body which is calling for an end to migrants and refugees being sent back to libya which is the coolest and of course of policy would you agree with that

absolutely policies have to change we have to recognise the situation libya is dramatically.