tv NEWSHOUR Al Jazeera July 4, 2019 4:00pm-5:01pm +03
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me and the rights and freedoms set down in the sino british joint declaration are respected i have raised my concerns directly with chinese leaders as has my right and befriend the transect and other ministers and we will continue to do so. it has to be pointed out that on this very important issue of a principle the government chose to stand on the wrong side. inappropriate remarks not only to interfere in the internal affairs. but also to back our violent law because it even attempts to obstruct hong kong government. from bringing the criminals to justice. a tornado has hit china's northeast nein province killing at least 6 people and injuring more than 190 others it struck the city of car you on tearing through an
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industrial park before moving south dozens of factories were destroyed and some residential areas were badly damaged the city government says around $120.00 people were rescued that south korea is threatening to hit back against japan for cutting exports of materials used to make smartphones and other high tech equipment it's feared a long running dispute over wartime force labor is evolving into a modern day trade fight but mcbride reports from seoul. ironically this dispute comes just days after japan hosted the g 20 summit of world leaders went to foster good neighborly relations and promote free trade. and it could harm south korea where it hurts most in its production of semiconductors. the restrictions mean it will be harder to export essential materials from japan to korean manufacturers. as
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one of the world's leading produces of chips especially for use in smartphones it could have a knock on effect in other countries and industries if they're protecting the thread be smart to allies about the really big blow to the industry and they're not only through the korean industry and they have a disruption of their global value chain south korea has long been angered by what it sees as japan's failure to take responsibility for atrocities committed during world war 2 japan maintains that the issue was settled when the 2 countries normalize diplomatic relations in 1965. but courts here recently ruled in favor of former workers used as slave labor by japanese companies ordering them to pay compensation. japan denies this is in retaliation for that under which this is not a counter measure but
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a review of operations from the point of view of appropriately implementing export controls for national security reasons if citing national security as a reason for trade control sounds familiar that's because it is the administration of u.s. president donald trump has often used the same excuse its trade disputes with neighboring countries and many people here believe japan is resorting to tactics drawn straight from the from p. and playbook i think if they copied it from trump of course the trump tactic makes. choice much easier so i think that's right that. they are using this economic measures seemingly new norms being adopted in international trade with in this case south korea losing out of their pride al-jazeera so. still to come here in town. hungry for help by solving the argentinian families or having to travel
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for hours to find a hot meal. hello again and welcome back to our international weather forecast we have seen plenty of weather here across parts of central europe we do have a lot of thunderstorms that are rolling across parts of france italy as well as over towards hungary now some of these storms did cause problems in terms of large hail as well as gusty winds so we're going to still monitor these in the next few days up towards the north though it is going to be quite windy across parts of northern and north eastern europe we do have a system that's pushing through we're not a lot of clouds and all a rain it will be the winds and some of those winds could cause trees to fall as well as power lines to come down as well down towards the south though it is going to be. quite warm with rome at about 34 degrees in athens seeing about 37 degrees as your forecast high weather across northern part of africa not too much in terms
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of clouds or rain but we are going to be seeing some tempers rising here across parts of tunisia so tunis here on thursday expect to see a day there of $38.00 degrees over here towards magazine not looking too bad for you at $29.00 and cairo a nice day for you at 38 degrees there and then as we make our way down here across parts of central africa we do watch this area for tropical wave to melt development as those systems push off the coast but things are quite dry now so for lagos it is going to be a rainy day few at 28 degrees in for across right for you as well at 29.
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yards. tartarus think of the top stories here it out in syria the un security council has failed to agree on how to deal with the bombing of a migrant detention center in libya the libyan ministry of justice says 60 people were killed in the air strike which have been blamed on the wall natale for half the. north korea is accusing the u.s. of being held bent on hostility towards it is responding to accusations it breached
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a cap on the train liam imports and fall is donald trump's visit on sunday. china has warned the united kingdom to keep its hands of hong kong again not to meddle in the ongoing protests there china's u.k. ambassador had been summoned by the foreign office which threatened serious consequences if beijing failed to honor the 997 handover deal. else trailers considering new laws that would ban i saw supporters from returning to the country for up to 2 years as many as 230 australians travel to syria and iraq to fight with armed groups within the past 6 years now if this measures passed the government says the laws would give authority it's time to manage any risk posed by the fight his return. that donald trump is president other tweets about iran following the iranian president hassan rouhani saying that terror arm would
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increase your rainy m m richmond beyond the limits set in the 2050 nuclear deal president wrote iran has just issued a new warning rouhani says they will enrich uranium to any amount we want if there is no new nuclear deal be careful with the threats iran they can come back to bite you like nobody has been bitten before. well european leaders meanwhile say they're not looking to punish iran just yet. with just days to go before iran is expected to take another step in its plan to reduce cooperation with a 2050 nuclear deal president hassan rouhani had an angry rebuke for the united states. over the past when it is then. extinguished if you say it is dangerous to play with fire why did he start it. was responding to comments by president donald trump after the international atomic
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energy agency or the i.a.e.a. on monday confirmed iran had breached an agreed stockpile limit for enriched uranium. you know what they're playing with and i think they're playing with fire the u.s. pulled out of the deal last year imposing ever widening economic sanctions including stopping iran from exporting excess nuclear material another example iran says that illustrates the u.s. is to blame for how fragile the 25th or joint comprehensive plan of action has become caught in the middle attempts by europe to salvage the j.c. have not worked iran sees europe's lack of stronger public condemnation of american sanctions as a weakness. the instrument in support of trade exchanges or in sticks a banking bypass to mitigate u.s. sanctions essentially an oil for good scheme iran's president says is tokenism. been showing off it could be an acceptable action if there was real money in it now it's like a bank without money so why should people come to this bank. this is
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a critical time for the nuclear deal if nothing changes by sunday july 7th iran says it will start enriching uranium at higher purity levels and will expand the scope of nuclear activity stopped with the signing of the deal. with you don can see there is no way in the interest of the region and the world the best thing for america to do is return from their mistake but runs out of patience world leaders are running out of time. ruling back on the deal is meant to be a way for iran to take back some autonomy with regards to its nuclear program something it gave up for economic relief that iranians say they have yet to fully experience it's also meant to call into question the commitment of the remaining signatories to the 2015 deal worried that this diplomatic stress test might be the thing that breaks. picnics unfallen spent in the
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u.s. capitol list is full to july celebrations will be somewhat different president trump is putting himself from center alone with a display of military might critics say he's hijacking the day for political gain. from washington. this is not normal this is not something people usually pass in the nation's capital now the sight of tanks and assorted military equipment here for a celebration created by u.s. president donald trump. on thursday there will be fly overs of some of the country's most sophisticated planes and the president will break with what has been routine and he will speak in washington as the country celebrates its independence taking part in an annual celebration that almost all modern presidents have avoided afraid it would appear they were putting the spotlight not on the country but its leader. but ever since he witnessed this in france and 2017 trampas wanted his own
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parade he tried before but when it came out that it would cost $90000000.00 he changed his mind but the desire didn't go away so now this on the 4th of july and this time no one will say how much it will cost taxpayers it is starting without precedent professor allan lichtman says it's not just breaking precedent that concerns him it's the broader message he sees the president sending trump has learned a big lesson that there are no consequences for anything. that he does no matter how outrageous we have a democratic party with absolutely no spine that has done virtually nothing to check the excesses of donald trump it's also controversial because for the 1st time the republican party is handing out tickets to the event this is a public event it's open to the public the public is welcome to calm and celebrate our great country the greatest democracy the constitution all the members not just
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the 1st amendment seems to only interest you only it is true it is open to the public they can attend back there but this is the v.i.p. section of the republican party is giving out many of the tickets to their top donors and fundraisers. and the president is promising a speech that will promote what he's done as president if that happens it will be seen as politicizing what has always been a nonpolitical holiday. that will be as controversial as rolling military equipment onto the streets of d.c. but this is a president who doesn't mind upset in the norms especially if it is unlikely to cost him support with his base. al-jazeera washington. now argentina's general election is just months away and so president chris record is under intense scrutiny he took office in 215 promising to reduce poverty as his number one priority bought a new study shows as many as 3000000 argentinians have fallen on hard times in the
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past year alone today's a bow reports now from one osiris. it's late at night in this neighborhood and when a site ace the cold weather doesn't make it any easier for those who live in poverty in argentina capital. comes all the way to the city with her 3 children she says life is getting harder every day and it will end up being that we get a pension for the children and we try to work in what we can but it's not enough we have to pay rent and we cannot be. our children people come to this location 3 times a week to get some food and warm clothes from an ngo that is helping the poor. is a lawyer who has been working on the streets for years look at. what worries arse are the new poor people who had a job and lost it and now they have to choose between renting a room or eating we are seeing more of that when we go out and it shows how
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difficult the situation is last year after a loss of investor confidence in emerging markets argentina was forced to request an emergency loan from the international monetary fund and even though the government has continued to spend on social programs the austerity measures implemented are having an impact on people's lives some of this people have to travel for hours to be able to come here and find out meal this is an example of what is happening in argentina where poverty rates have increased in the past year because of the devaluation of the vessel currency and the double digit inflation that exists today that inflation has a direct impact on basic food items. at a man this has been trying to find a job for over a year but she says it's been an impossible task the number of the work there's no work and in fact people are being laid off that's why we need to come here i have my 2 kids to care for meanwhile government officials say they're doing everything
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they can to deal with a situation. that we are not indifferent to is happening economically in the country and we're doing everything so the situation will improve we have subsidy is meant to help people in need food security programs cards with money where people can go and buy food and many other things we have several programs to help out. the problem is that as long as the economic situation is dire it will be difficult for people like jessica to improve their lives in the meantime the look for a meal and some clothes that will help their children get by. when a scientist and a vocal stadium in argentina is providing shelter to the home this is the country braces for a cold snap river plate one of the country's biggest football teams opened its doors after several people living on the streets were found dead freezing temperatures are new concerns about rising poverty in the country. that
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one production is a growing industry in the u.k. in part due to climate change a record number of vines have been planted this year ending the whales emma hayward reports now from west northern england. it's not budo in france or tuscany in a silly but britain where movie being grown for wine making than ever before. and in the wind in the rain it takes skill the right to parity and determination to grow grapes they spawn all the signs though soon these flowers will bear fruit instead of being such high levels of short days and highly intense sunshine we have this extender period of lower light levels and that has an effect on a right wing of the fruit the quality of the for this year alone 3000000 vines have been planted in england and wales almost double than in 2018. with the culture is
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growing in popularity but it is a business that comes with an element of risk because of the unpredictability of the british weather but with warmer and drier summers predicted to move in yards of being established making one production one of the fastest growing sectors in u.k. agriculture saying this underpinning or enabling of the sector driven by climate change who are also saying an increase in the skills that are required to seeing an increase in investment is a modern technology being brought into the sector and that creates a really positive picture for producing outstanding world class wines. this part of southern england has a long history of wine making but it is expanding past in part also due to strong sales the british wine here and overseas we've planted around about 50 acres of vines over the last 2 or 3 years and will continue to buy or lease land and pump more violence so we're investing in the future we're confident about the future of
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this market. back in north yorkshire where there's a little rest of the vineyard where they're hoping for a bumper harvest while of course keeping an eye on the sky and he would al-jazeera west in northern england. to receive a look at the top stories here it is area the un security council has failed to agree on how to deal with the bombing of a migrant detention center in libya the ministry of justice in libya says 60 people were killed in the air strike which has been blamed on the warlord holly for hafter but he says the target was a weapons step and not the migrant center talks have resumed between sudan's opposition and the ruling military genter on transferring power to a civilian led government negotiations collapsed a month ago after security forces raided a city in protest killing dozens of demonstrators the talks in the capital khartoum
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are being mediated by the african union and is here here in representatives of all any negotiation has to start from the points that we cannot agree on and it is one main point the transitional council it is the point regarding the head of the council because both sides agreed to a civilian majority it was suggested $8.00 to $7.00 and it was then adjusted to $5.00 and $5.00 plus one and that would be 6 civilians and 5 military. we also said that there has to be a deadline to these negotiations we suggest 72 hours the sudanese people and we don't have the space to keep dragging these endless negotiations. north korea has accused the us of being held bent on the hostility towards it it's responding to accusations that it breached a cap on petroleum imports and follows president trump's visit on sunday.
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china has warned the united kingdom to keep its hands of hong kong and not to meddle in the ongoing protests the u.k. ambassador was summoned by the britain's foreign office which threatened serious consequences if beijing fails to honor the 997 handover deal. east and the differences. and the similarities of cultures across the world. al-jazeera. refugees caught up in libya's civil war at least 44 people died in an airstrike on the micro center in tripoli in what the u.n. calls a war crime who's behind the attack and how will it affect efforts to end the conflict this is inside story.
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hello and welcome to the program on iran kong african migrants have become the latest victims of libya's civil war at least 44 people died in an asteroid on a detention center in the capital tripoli the u.n. special envoy to libya is calling it a war crime and the un recognized government in tripoli is blaming a warlord a holy father after his forces have been fighting to seize the city the victims are among tens of thousands of africans hoping to cross the mediterranean sea to start a new life in europe elect here brian as more. traumatized and scared they wait outside the migrant camp that was the temporary hollowed out there among the hundreds of thousands have come to libya in search of a base on life across the sea in europe. for some here that dream is now on the
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victims of a conflict that has nothing to do with them. this is the same to just a few months ago fullest people have spent days a week straddling through the days it often and brutally hot temperatures and at the hands of smuggler as it's those about 600 people living here the path that was hit in an airstrike late on tuesday night out about 150 main refugees and migrants many from west africa are working with no one to you and to help people are told this is required this is dangerous we don't have any power to. so there is more. stranded they don't know what to do they don't know they don't know where to go like no i don't know. what to do i don't know what will the un recognized government in tripoli as blaming rival forces for the attack saying it was deliberate. the situation in libya has become increasingly volatile
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since april when forces loyal to warlord khalifa haftar launched an offensive to control the capital hundreds of people have been killed and tains of thousands displaced in the fighting. forces most of whom are part of the self declared libyan national army have carried out several air raids on tripoli in recent days after losing the town of cutty and nearby. the violence has worsened the suffering in migrant attention centers some close to the front lines which has those pushed back by the european funded libyan coast guard the un's describe the conditions in the same tis as appalling with little food and water repeatedly calling for them to be closed people are being brought to the detention centers faster than we can evacuate them they're being brought to libya after being rescued or intercepted by the libyan coast guard a rate that's quicker than we can get people out so we need
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a new policy that we need to see a renewed effort this season ends to people being returned to libya no refugees should be returned to libya at this time there's growing condemnation of tuesday's attack and calls for someone to be found accountable but for now these migrants a stock in the middle of libya's rivals and their betel for control elixir brian for inside story. khalifa haftar was offensive on tripoli has derailed a un peace initiative to reconcile libya's rival powers. there's the un recognized government led by prime minister fails us or ours in tripoli the capital in the west the government of national accord is backed by most western nations as well as qatar and turkey and in the east of libya there's the brook based parliament the center of power for holly for half dot he's backed by egypt saudi arabia the united arab emirates as well as france and russia. i.
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let's bring in our guest joining us in paris moustapha turi academic and contributor to our monitor news website in san antonio texas months or. professor of politics at the university of texas at santa san antonio and author of libya's gadhafi the politics of contradiction and in london and elgar marty founder and director of sadik institute the 1st public policy think tank in libya i'd like to begin with. this has been called a war crime by the united nations why hasn't have to responded to the charges coming from tripoli saying that he was behind this attack were you shooting your. new shoes so you saw i mean. because it's a good deal now this 1st of all who fired those things that. then perhaps you can
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say that when told of options let's just wait before we call them walker we're not i'm not i don't support i don't support what was killing those those those refugees but i think 1st of all we have to see who was responsible for this because before the same thing happened if the boat rides then the others will atrocities they committed so i think we just hold off on this for just a 2nd and in london tripoli has been very quick to assign blame for this it just goes to show that libya's various parties are far from reconciled on any of this but no evidence has been put forward for this now what happens next what's what's the next move for tripoli to prove if this was indeed hell if after. but it's certainly not difficult to source of lincoln to conduct an investigation to conclude which of the warring parties was involved in this. force
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has been conducting air raids in that district it was a raid conducted against the demand group which is a brigade that is known as the council migration brigade and it was told in the complex so i think it would be stupidity of the highest order for the for the g. and a for the internationally by government to strike its own forces and i think the logical conclusion is that it was either a strike from an what base which is coming from western libya or there was a drone strike from eastern libya and had them a base but i never asked the question to conduct or in this kind of thing of us the nation that would determine with some degree of proof from where the sorties flew from from where the drones or the you avi's or the or the the migs that left these are bases where it came from and i think even the shrapnel of the of the of the missiles that was struck would give some degree of evidence as to where there's a strikes were launched from well that's a very interesting point and several of our military camps need it where this detention facility is actually visited detention facilities like this in libya the
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conditions are incredibly bad but why have them so close to military facilities is it simply because of a lack of space and was this a mistake. i don't think i don't think these kind of mistakes happen you know i really don't i think the intention perhaps there was to be close to those those though the 3 g. capital case they already have and there's even some people wishing that there would be it so that i don't want to be black i don't like them seems sex and this kind of thing i think i think if it was done that it was the leverage if it was not done that it was didn't do it but this is this is the issue of war you're dealing with that with a. conflict that there's no border and no lives and it that is there's no there is no actual combatants which you can say this won't be long as well but also that you don't this is
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a problem with with civil wars such as the one that we have in libya today and i was let me bring you in here you are disagreeing that you're shaking your head. why the shaking your head yeah i think you know i think that well the security infrastructure in libya is well known the genie groups that are fighting against kind of a half there in tripoli one and their locations are well known but also the infrastructure that houses the barracks the military barracks is a limited infrastructure meaning that certain on groups or a limited number of armed groups and he has a limited number of complexes those complexes are only not only used to house the fighting forces in tripoli but also has in the in the specific tasks or the specific designate groups of the supposed to be pursuing such as the migration or the migrants and refugees that have been pursued by this group by that among group in that order that complex is well known very nearby complex in ma to get a base also hosts a counter isis force that has been capturing noises that last 5 years and has got a complex within which to hold his own forces its force but also its intelligence units and the prisons and it doesn't mean that there's that they use for isis so
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that architecture is well known it's certainly well known to the armed groups that are in tripoli is certainly well known to the armed groups that a strike in tripoli from kind of after so there was no mistake this was a deliberate act and it was one that was done with we shouldn't we shouldn't try to paint this as a as the armed groups are going to forcibly putting migrants are putting isis at risk unnecessarily deva structure is limited we know that but more importantly here is that if i have their nose there and to think about it if i have those act in isolation is morally reprehensible we know that her father has not only struck this camp but was struck in camps and has armed groups entered into a company to an odd months ago at the beginning of the conflict in the airport road complex around the airport where complex and struck another number of refugees and migrants killing around 40 so this isn't the 1st time it's a deliberate act it wasn't a systematic the human support the humanitarian support system in libya was the 1st to be targeted ambulances ambulance drivers 1st the 1st attend the medics these are 1st of all that fell during the conflict so it sounds more like
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a systematic than it sounds like an isolated accident or something that was was just that you know mistake a gaffe that was made which is that month. yeah i see you shaking your head a very violent on that tell me what is your response i'm sorry this is i mean do you want to make. good ok is it over but this is to be i don't think people a bloodthirsty just we could have but thursday i don't think he is going to strike those 2 good oh today i'm going to strike those people out there that's not true then what's the real reason for him to strike that if he did strike that so what are the weapons inside of the water isn't. so doesn't that i'm not cache on but something must have been there you know just most people when isis or 2 more want to strike there are 3 g. cumple that this is nonsense ok you want to be no go find make him a no go but he's not a not this the oh god well until there is an investigation to we find out actually who was responsible today there is
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a wider issue here i just want to bring our guest in paris amos stuff a fertility the u.n. the united nations have been very clear they've said that these migrants can't keep being returned to libya it's putting them at homes risk has been same by this strike that libya is not a safe place for these people to go back to why are they being forced to go back to libya. well i think i think this is one of the arrangements that have been done with the new libya between the i mean the only being. a few years ago and. especially with the italian government the new italian government about 2 years ago and the arrangement such that the any migrants who are taking off from libya shores. will be if they are caught somewhere in the way towards europe specifically if they are within the libyan territory waters there would be sent back to libya and then the. international really organization for migration along
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with the libyan local authorities are supposed to care of them for a while and then reprocess them in some way and rode me to try to convince as many of them as possible to send them back and then actually they had been you know kind of regular of flights taking back migrants with their own countries but the problem here i guess is. that that would not so of course solve the migration problem there will always be migrants in libya and fortunately there will be more and more tragedies like the one we saw today and last night actually be as long as there is a conflict they are the always the if honorable people they are the area underdogs and there is no there is no way to stop this unfortunately it's very tragic event but that there is no other way to prevent it i mean there's no actual way the other thing is there's no you know if i had correctly there was some kind of argument
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between the guests before i join you you know that probably decide can be blamed on that side or destroys the i doubt the street if there is any any any either of the 2 sides that libby them softer originated for. militias are actually doing this deliberately it's very far fetched idea. most likely what they're using is. in french in the bins you know with very kind they're used in specifically random shelling is or mumbling like the case. seems to be and no one who would be hundreds one somebody at the end of the day for this tragedy i mean did there were there would never be any kind of independent verification or investigation of what's really one to one who is responsible for that just like many shows so many other tries it is we have been you know living with the libya since 2011 who fortunately but me speak 2 months old. there is
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a there is a resolution to this if you go all the parties around the table and had a peaceful resolution a political resolution then these tragedies would stop happening why is that not happening why is the peace process seemingly detail almost every opportunity. because i did murder 3 different perspectives here i mean basically and i let me tell you my perspective look at it so i do and i think a large number of individuals in without my part of this the country who would more than say i'm a secularist i want a separation of church and state and i'm not willing to live under 10 centry i do not unfortunately you have so much dominated by precisely these people so i mean. compatibility is so clear it is and every day it's becoming worse and worse and worse they're not willing to give up their point of view and these are going to be mobs point of view i mean ultimately i mean i hate to say there's an and i don't i
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don't favor it but ultimately if it might lead to the breakup of libya that's if people are free to live the way they want to if they want to be. it's not mixtape they want to have it or. be my guests have the ocracy we won't simple as this is this is this is the this is the heart of this issue the heart of the issues that they want to impose upon these a certain form of government this is basic this isn't you're going to see and at last in london busy there's no common ground says our guest in san antonio and there's no way these parties can reconcile is that true. that's a shame that what he's saying is actually saying that in that is far more dangerous and i think it comes down to a narrative that has been sold over the last 8 years that an in a region of 385000000 people in the middle east north africa that somehow it's either going to be the generals or it's the chaos and tyranny of isis and that's
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seems to be a very narrow way of looking at the world and it's we should call it what it is dog whistling because in the west and in europe at the moment there is this rise of populous that also view the world in that way that arabs and muslims can't be democrats or they can't do secular democracy of they can't live under the kind of rules or set about the kind of values that we want and the only people that can do that are apparently the secular and the only secular is there available the army the military to be there algeria libya egypt potentially even in tennessee and excellence and then next so i think that's a really bad argument to make and i think it's not one that holds truth. and the 1st of the matter is after is not pursuing if you had a 60 severely him a dog whistle and try to tell everybody in the world that he's proceeding so if you had his but if we look at the the chaos and anarchy in the carnage that was wreaked upon that the place that minnesota is selling is that he lives in from and that's where he represents the east of libya benghazi that the birthplace of the revolution a quote unquote care a terrorism operation that was conducted the displaced 800000 people from benghazi and 100000 people the international media were referred to as isis or isis families
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by the l n a spokesman at one must mahdi but in looking at media were referred to as turks and jews because they're from a different ethnic tribal sect and a rather different ethnic tribal group ing from the civic tribes of benghazi that most of them or the majority of them led the revolution or or established some of the on groups and that was intolerable to the group after holds today the bedouin groups that are now in control of what has it and i think that's what we should also be focusing on in his 2nd operation in that in that we were told it was al qaida that were in control because that group kicked out isis not if i have to so we can call them isis so we have to call them al-qaeda in that city at the end of an 18 and doesn't like seen a quarter of the population is either dead in jail or displaced that doesn't sound like a narrow character was a fight to me it sounds like a fight between the local citizens of that of that place and if you look at the groups that if i have to used to lead the offensive that came from the bordering towns the bedouin bordering towns of n. mandala when they left after the campaign they spray painted welcome to the new and
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moderate over the name of that in there in the city so let's not dog whistle and call people terrorists because it's got real life implications you're concerned about the polarization but you are using a word like terrorist terrorist isn't just a normal word it's a pejorative term and it green lights drone strikes green lights wholesale executions of people and that's what we've seen about r.c. please i would i would argue and urge months or to use less polarizing language and to call things as they are. very quickly what's your response so don't put words in my mouth kate i did not say i paid terrorists i didn't even bring up the would of terrorists i didn't see any of that work going on the total truth living under a $0.10 or theocracy. you are you are you work waking up to see what terrorism i'm not you do that. ok you don't accept many things that the us a country let's bring in
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a letter or email us your thoughts i really have my stuff i want to come see you in paris now there has been a complete disagreement between our 2 guests in san antonio and in london i just want to get to the heart of the thought that there seem to be very eerie 2nd irreconcilable ready differences here how do we get these parties to the table to talk how do we keep libya together. there is gnome there is no you know magic to do this there is no magic way there is no easy way either i am one of the optimistic verses i would like to see. stable nimbys for libya and i always wanted this time to have been true some guy and the political and bisa brought but unfortunately the fact is there's no there's no other way than violence to stabilize libya and bring back the country. that i'm not i'm not defending anybody. but any any party to the current conflict around tripoli i am not to
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blame in this side or that side but eventually there is no other way and the reason i say this under the bridge railing circumstances which have i mean politically socially and security wise which we had been living. under libyans i mean since 2012 under these circumstances there is no there is no other way to bring about anything any kind of stability in libya unless with violence i mean somebody has to beat somebody out of the battle this take this going on me i fight is the mother see me more that seems to something different that i'm not sure sort of stuff i thank you very much for that i just want to say what you're saying is that the need this needs to be a fight to the death a fight to the last man standing do let me start with you. do you agree with this is about
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a strong man re-emerging you already had one of those in colonel gadhafi doesn't need another strong man. i hope i really do hope more than the last thing i want to see is libya falling back into a dictatorship if we're to gives good that we have 40 years because he was about to take this data is not that what i'm trying to tell you has been simple i'm trying to tell you that ultimately the libyans have to decide what they want to beat those who want to be had to have an islamic state they can have is the state they can be free to do what they want to do those who don't can do as were said to me is the catholic nottage is really is not we can we can we can then we can give to get the gist of that you can check the public as look at the public this is the role that we have been here that i bought. and i said london i just want to bring you in to have. a strong man needs to realize that's what we've heard what do you think. i think it's simple i think honestly to go back to the policy oriented or solution
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oriented way forward is that we need to look away from the national level of political elites that are trying to strike a grand bargain with each other or would actually separate the country between 2 or 3 different states a look at the local level a lot of the riff that emerged not only in the last 23 months of this conflict but as most of a has rightly pointed out since doesn't have a stem from this kind of polarizing dehumanizing language that puts one camp in one area and says either for example if you're a deficit that somehow you have no right to the country and you have no right to play a role in the country and you have no rights to to govern locally in the way that it ought to govern the country or if it's the day in those on my team or we're talking about if we don't like this group will call them feel a theocracy if there are protests or we'll call them islamists or call them terrorists or call them jihadists that kind of language is not going to be good for anybody going down the line and what libya it desperately needs is a reconciliation process along local tribal lines or an ethno tribal lines or a city states in regions that would include things that are practical so it could be a power sharing agreement between different tribes that have fallen out since those
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11 it could be a reconciliation process among some of the groups that have fought since those 11 but we have to abandon that really polarizing language and learn to live with one another and we are certainly running out of going to have to stop you there because i do want to come to new stuff in paris our guests are saying there are options it doesn't have to be violence it doesn't have to be strong and just very quickly are you still convinced that there has to be a violent solution to the conflict in libya. well. it's not that i am convincing you know i'm convinced or believe in wind as the only way but they're already said you know under dbu freighting circumstances that we have been under. since 2012 for actually there is no other way and the reason i say this how could you conduct a beast full dialogue among the equal libyans in the conclusive lucifer bro says you know and like the road member bows by mr science and amodio and then war under
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the attractive militias an arm of the groups don't regardless of their ideology even a criminal groups who are cutting the roads who are extorting and who are kidnapping to be able and for ransom and so on and so forth how could you do that sorry we are at a time gentlemen thank you very much and thanks to all our guests stuff authority. and ask. and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al-jazeera dot com and for further discussion now to our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story and you can also join the conversation on twitter handle is at a.j. inside story for me imran khan and the whole team head by for now.
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hello i'm a senior editor with their life and also coming up. britain denies it back to protests in hong kong after china accuses the u.k. of meddling in its affairs. a wartime dispute between south korea and japan boils over into a modern day trade fight over high tech exports. and pushing themselves to a new peak. pakistan wants to get on the world cycling map. the un security council has failed to agree on a course of action in libya after emergency talks on the bombing of a migrant detention center the military ministry of justice in tripoli says the number of dead has now risen to 60 with 77 injured in tuesday's airstrike the u.n.
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recognize government has blamed the war. for the deaths which his forces deny alexia brian reports behind closed doors the un security council discussed how to deal with the deteriorating security in libya but those talks are believed to have been fruitless as media reports suggesting u.s. diplomats refused to approve a statement condemning tuesday's attack and calling for a cease fire the meeting was called by peru its ambassador apparently frustrated by the lack of a comprehensive condemnation. there were refugees migrants. that we haven't agreed. maybe we'll have a statement but we are still discussing it about 150 people were in the migrant attention center in tripoli when it was hit town airstrike and what the u.n. refugee agency has called
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a preventable tragedy the un's mission in libya says the attack could constitute a war crime the secretary general calls for an independent investigation of the circumstances of this incident to ensure that the perpetrators are brought to justice it is important to note that the united nations had provided exact coordinates of the detention center to the parties levy has been caught in a power struggle between 2 rival administrations to several years of violence escalated in april when forces loyal to warlord khalifa haftar launched an offensive on the capital the un recognized government says have forces out of blame for the strike for the government of national accord denounces the horrible crime that's been committed against the detention center for illegal migrants into giora the took place last night carried out by criminal aircraft this is a definite crime in every respect but have to reject that allegation his spokesman
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says they were targeting a weapons depot controlled by an armed group allied to the tripoli government. we were surprised to see the false claims that the migrant camp was targeted the syria houses no migrants and no libyan civilians the weapon supply coming from misrata came through this point therefore we destroyed a legitimate target of our enemy if the claims are true they brought those illegal migrants to that area on purpose analysts suggest the u.s. to take action against the have a dangerous precedent not being able. or. even condemning the aggression by a warlord that in itself. is a sign of. happening at the united nations level people smugglers have exploited the chaos in libya which has become one of the main departure points for african migrants fleeing poverty and war trying to reach europe by boat rights groups say
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a united international approach is needed both to end the conflict and ensure migrant safety elixir brian al-jazeera. our correspondent mahmoud up to wired has been to a hospital in tripoli where survivors are being treated these are my gran's who were injured yesterday by the airstrike in the migrant detention center in a neighborhood in eastern tripoli they're from nigeria and also there are from some of them are from roll call the situation is very bleak here and they say that they have lost friends and they say if it's their choice they want to be sent back to their countries. but. we've been promised to be sent back to our countries for more than a month but they kept us in the detention center into jura they promised to let us go this week but we were hit by the airstrike. some of them said that they wanted
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to or they were planning to cross the military and woods europe others said that they were just regular wages workers here in tripoli like construction workers and they were detained by security forces just because they don't have. proper. residency documents in all cases these wanted migrants are among. dozens of wanted migrants who were transferred to other medical centers in the capital tripoli some wanted migrants were released those who have only minor injuries but these migrants will most probably have to stay longer melissa than most of the value. for those who finish medical treatment there will be sent to the legal migration authorities as for the dead the interior ministry and the general prosecutor can decide whether to bury them here or send
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their corpses to their and the seas and they're all worried that they could be transferred to other detention centers. right. now who's an international relations professor at regents university and a fellow at the middle east program of chatham house talking to us live from london thank you very much indeed for talking to us and we've got a failed u.n. resolution at this particular point report suggesting that it's the americans who are holding up things in the security council they having to refer to washington what is u.s. policy towards libya at the moment as far as you understand. hello well no it isn't many other cases it's very unclear what is you're you aspire to see i think it's a combination here or failed american policy but not only american it's e.u. it's the other members of the security council there are clashes sort of interest
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here between the european union that want to stop migration slowly be earth so the mediterranean and bear in mind all of the $579.00 migrans that are around in them into the indian until the so the of july so we are in this situation that this migrants that flee droughts and wars and civil wars and other disaster in their own countries are caught in libya in the situation room is deteriorated the security council is incapable of taking a decision and washington generally under the top and ministration is in the confusing messages well there was that phone call wasn't there some weeks ago if not months ago between president drum and there. which seemed to suggest a certain amount of support coming from the white house at least if not from the state department for holly for have to. again to you know it's exactly the
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question what happened in this kind of of a phone call who had the support but what libya actually didn't lee is a peace mission is certain because the legacy of 2011 is still in this in libya and people are paying if there is a. state absolutely absolutely sorry to interrupt but there is essentially a peace mission isn't there there's a u.n. special representative send me they had a plan that a plan were ready for a national dialogue and on that particular day i mean the u.n. secretary general himself was in libya on that particular day that's when general hurley for have to decided to to launch this slaughter on the capital tripoli so they do have something in place a framework in place it's just not been that of a time. of course you're right the plan but the plan before out actually the mechanism of implementation is something which is an abstract yes there is
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a plan in all of this leigh what happened you know in the early hours of wednesday shows the urgency to actually implement the plan and during and for but if the security council can't even condemn such an attack if it is behind it it shows you are useless is the poor of the processes is there isn't a government that is a nice by the united nations there is a plan but at the same time if you don't put the power behind the plan it's the insist that did let in was that he learnt it that exactly you are absolutely right about that but who is going actually to make this plan working and this is what what is missing that's what you need the international community so where would you attribute the greatest responsibility therefore for this impasse in the u.n. security council and in fact for this mounting conflict on the ground would it be the back is of the side because as you've already alluded to there are
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a big international players supporting particularly the the libyan national army as they call themselves and obviously i'm referring to not just the means you know players that international players as well like france. obviously it did it. probably is. you know should be condemned out it's hitting detention centers and killing 44 civilians in just scores of people is completely unacceptable but the fact that new york needs to get the approval of washington of condemning something which is obvious so obviously needs condemnation shows you again the the weakness of the system of the security council we see it in syria we see it in libya we see it almost in if we were there instead of working to get the data of the security council and i think the 5 permanent members is they work together exactly in such a situation instead of that they cancel each other because they look at their own
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interests instead of the interests of the libyan people whether anyone needs the libyan people needs actually the peace plan to be implemented and to move on the disaster started in 2011 but 8 years later it's still going go yes the medical bag thank you very much indeed for talking to us. now 2nd day of talks to resume between sudan's opposition and the ruling military genter on transferring power to a civilian led government the military's agreed to demands from the opposition to release prisoners and to restore the internet and get ations collapsed a month ago after security forces raided a sit in protest killing dozens of demonstrators the u.n. human rights chief michel basher led said on wednesday that he was again distressed by reports of attacks on hospitals during the raids. any negotiation has to start from the points that we cannot agree on and it is one main point the
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