so here we are in the middle east after the success of right hailing app carrying which bought for $3000000000.00 we find out if that success will be replicated we have 2 young startups here in the studio to find out how easy or difficult it is to create a success story but joining us is. a printer and co-founder of wash now and imagine lever be the chief executive of health good to have you both with us and so i want to start by asking you to tell us a little bit about your your business is and give you what's known as the elevator pitch which i'm sure you're familiar with just give us a sort of 32nd to a minute elevator pitch to sell your company magid ruby health of the digital put a company that uses behavior science to help people with their beauties and pre-diabetes change their habits live healthier and they do is the risk of chronic diseases you know the root of the chronic diseases as behavioral that's why we've designed this little problem that relies on lifestyle and behavior change

interventions we started with 2 products their abuse prevention and their beauties management both using the behavioral science to let people use a 16 week of 3 more live some of the case in program that produces clinical outcomes for the wizards from tell us about what's known as an on demand laundry service or the past couple of years we have built scalable technologies to help people do their laundry hassle free to shorter period of time so watch know what's on the over 4 x. model or on demand model where you can see a laundry pick ups and deliveries so past 2 years we have had help thousands of customers to run 25 percent of which will come from 5 star hotel residents or guests to do their laundry with the help of our mobile app and we feed how did you come about you business idea for washing we want to how we came up with the wash no idea is it was not a new idea glow. i believe it was an existing idea but not not in the region so how

we came i would watch know was we saw that how it could actually change your day to day life and impact people in their daily life saving time for more important items in their life of friends family or work. it's not about the idea about how we went ahead and launched washed know in 10 days of having this idea that made it different imagine saying to you how did you get the idea for a jew being well. people with their beauties they face a lot of problems here they have to manage their diabetes 24 hours a day 7 days a week and what they get now is basically 4 times maximum to see their doctors in a year and that leaves them struggling with their diet exercise and glucose level control so we thought that we need to give them like a remote care to their kid or so you know like we help them with all this struggles so that's why we wanted to create. a trust

a solution that both cater and who wants the care to be you know to use them so that's what we choose the work in the digital products which is actually kind of described by the doctor to his patients which means the solutions can produce clinical outcomes so when it's it has clinical outcomes that means the doctor himself can't describe it as a medicine so that's why the patient will trust it and we actually run a lot of clinical trials here and there and we have some kind of like approved that works and of course there's a lot of clinical evidence out there come on we can we can take a look at them and see so that's why we were like yes we need this solution in the middle is because the privilege of diabetes is increasing and that's really like every 6 seconds somebody dies because of diabetes or like having a lot of complications that it's actually prevent them from. like productivities if i mean that prevents them from produce to his family or you know like to live a healthier life but like any business i'm sure there are challenges the you've had to face to tell us about some of the obstacles the you faced in setting up this

business particularly in this region well you know there are 3 top challenges like they have to face like one of them is fundraising hiring the right stuff and number 3 is my ties in the business to ski. well i think the 3rd one is like it's pretty common between all the startups and like internationally in the region but the 1st 2 is really you know it's very difficult here in the region number one is because like you need to fund your business at the beginning and and this is an idea and you need somebody to believe in it right and in this reason i heard you talking about silicon valley saying about is get used to this kind of like ideas startups kind of thing and they've seen some kind of like a successful startups make a lot of money right but here in the region a lot of engines that we have money we have engine investors we have people like. ready to invest and the idea stage we're not in the startups is because they don't have a previous experience and as well as they don't see a lot of startups actually making money so that's because my opinion that's like

a very big challenge to all the startups in the region but now it's different right now it's different we witness a lot of like cooper like witness right we witness kareem and moves like they have a very successful so it is now so the mindset is it's changing now they look for the creative ideas people who can actually learn these ideas to invest in but at the beginning we were blaming a lot of people like you have money why don't you invest and we didn't know that the mindset is. the 2nd one is like of course like hiring staff or for your startups this is basically like finding the right talent the right people that are people is actually ready to come to your door and and wake up every single day and work with you to take your startup in the 2nd level so i think these 2 in the middle east these 2 challenges are the biggest challenges we face during our startup like it is with the activity and the feed you talked earlier about how your

business washing our is not a unique one there are other versions of it elsewhere in the world but what are some of the challenges that they you faced in this region setting it up. thankfully with that with them. high internet penetration and high tech adoption in the in the region those things have been sorted out for us so that this wasn't a challenge but challenges as. was initially in that it's hard to have people put money in the preceding stage or in the world were really early start up stage people would actually throw in a lot of money once once you're successful or once you have a lot of orders but you have to have people trust in you from your idea to a launch stage that's one of the most challenging things in the region i feel are also. tech skills when it comes to hiring techs jobs this is a stack start ups this is something that we face on a on

a on like on an everyday basis when you are when you have a startup going on over here so you are either forced to outsource to save the money or you are forced to have a tech stuff in-house at a very high or higher price how of the incubator is helped you these are the things that been set up by the government here in qatar so we have gone through the incubation experience and we hear it has been amazing it's not about the financing but the other part of the other part of the incubation experience that they actually provide including access to investors including access to a lot of events and networks as well as other other not financial but indirectly financial things like helping you get your monthly subscriptions for you for your tech or tech stack of financing or tech stocks or which which comes as a part of many of the incubation procedures over here so this kind of been like really really helpful but i think there is a long way to go in terms of putting

a small preceding mound in and beginning stage start ups as well as getting started mentors to. mentors who are actually failed or have a have had a starter before to to mentor other startups. megia how how easy or difficult has it been for you for your business to access money it's been difficult it was an easy journey it was difficult like we had to go through a lot of pitches a lot of you know meeting here in there and we were still a lot of time to be honest the trying to get some engine investment into the company but again i think this is the mindset now is changing as my feet said now i think that that is doing a very good job and educating the engine and businesses to give them like an easy access to these creative and innovative people into producing cutter especially now

they do a lot of like conferences and in particular incubators so they can actually match whoever wants and who are interested in tech startups or linguists and in take. ideas and with and supernews who have this great ideas and how as how as business like help the ecosystem this is kind of the sort of middle east version of. but when you talk to just a random selection people here a lot most people who don't have that app on their on their phones they have and i don't know if it's more popular elsewhere. in the middle east but that's the impression here i mean how do you how is the success of that company help the ecosystem well i think it gives a lot of big push to people here in the middle is to say well if you can do it now i mean as a as an interpreter and i have a startup i can do it as well i.e. may disagree with you on the you know a lot of people have given you a lot of people have i think. has a very grounded like

a data base that's why you know like the interested in buying and buying. i think now that is on the middle east. with this big news about like 3000000000. dollars acquisition for karim i think now like the international players they look at the middle east as well that is something year which is this something that was missing to be honest like trying to get some fun like we we went to different conferences and europe or in the u.s. and they have 0 interest in investing in start ups and me in the region but now i think with kareem and moves who until there are there is here like the eye on the local and the reason and the reason startups so i think the give us a big favor and we also have like a big responsibility is so we have to move fast we have to say well yes we can do

it but we have to have a creative innovative business more than a berthing with us where we can scale fast and feed i want to i want to ask you about some of this as well what sort of a message did it send when bought caring for 3000000000 dollars about the kind of the viability of business is like that in the middle east globally had it had all the investor eyeballs turning to middle east and the mena region globally now in delhi if you look at the juice region bush had the confidence of a lot of startup founders startup investors who are already here and people who actually would prefer to work for a startup but for me the most exciting part i found i find is the korean founders themselves as start of founders when they began and amount of money they might have received from from the whole deal. i'm sure they're going to invest in

a lot of other regional startups i'm sure they're going to they're going to help a lot of regional startups and and because they themselves have lived the story and they're really would believe that so when someone who came from came as a start a founder and the and you get bought out or you get my. acquired by a bigger company i'm sure when they plan to invest in future a lot of regional companies would benefit from from that so globally yes a lot of investors have their focus now on the middle east there really feel that to there is money over here i mean there's there is like future money over here if you invest now and i think that's the biggest message but then across from the deal and i want to ask you both as well what sort of impact to the businesses like yours have on job creation in the region particularly among among young people here so it's very well known that you know like interpreters and who whatever they have

a sort of they actually decrease their employment percentage that actually helps a lot of people to come and learn from mistakes we receive a lot from tunisia for example they can come you know like to like help us and building the company we have a lot of smart people joining now. it really helps the the whole ecosystem to actually come together and build the right ecosystem for start up scene and what you experience and that the fetus for us watch now is currently a team of less than 10 people over here in cutter and we have a back office in india where more people work but in terms of giving this experience to to the internes is one of the biggest impact i think we have made as a startup in terms of job creation because they go through the whole process of start of founders think. how we face the challenges how do we actually takes risks calculated risk and how they can be an entrepreneur in the future so then when they

finish their schools or when their break in between the college breaks so we have in turn thanks also to the eco system players over here who actually bring us into ons like the digital incubation center so i think the biggest impact we are on the job market is not direct. but and directly by imparting this knowledge and. the future. all right we're going to have to bring this to an end. thanks very much to both of you for being with us thanks for noticing and that is our show for this week remember you can get in touch with us by tweeting me at and use the hash tag a j c t c when you do e-mail counting the cost at al jazeera dot net is our address there's more for you online at c.n.n. dot com slash c.t.c. and i'll take you straight to our page which has individual links and entire episodes for you to catch up on. that is it for this edition of counting the cost has a secret from the whole team here thanks for joining us today news on al-jazeera is

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a military show of force led spying president maduro. america's called a state struggles to cope with the heat wave found wildfires that have smothered watch areas but small class. the birthplace of really hasn't been a say since the earliest days of civilization is declared a world heritage sites. but 1st the u.n. security council has called on libya's warring parties to commit to a cease fire 3 months after warlord who the for have to his forces loan stone offensive to seize the capital tripoli well the statement was prompted by cheese days airstrike on a migrants detention center a new footage has a marriage showing the moments the airstrike hit the camp near tripoli the death toll has climbed to 60 and more than 100 people have been injured the u.n.

recognized government blamed the attack on have to its forces but the warlord spokesman said they were targeting a weapons depo controlled by an ally off the tripoli government's well world health organization says nearly a 1000 people have been killed in fighting around tripoli suring the past 3 months . has the latest. a video that has been recently circulated online showing the moment when the detention center in a neighborhood in eastern tripoli was hit by an airstrike in now supervisors of the detention center confirm the video is accurate 100 percent as it was taken by their c.c.t.v. cameras all the elements we have seen in or around the detention center of the same we have been several times to that detention center since it was for this head on

tuesday night by an airstrike and meanwhile the interior minister the government of national accord the government of national accord says that. if 16 fighter jet hit the detention center on tuesday night which killed $53.00 migrants and refugees now also says that a team of experts from the united nations has proved that the detention center was hit by an airstrike but most also says that if libya fails to protect the migrants and refugees then they will decide to release all the migrants and refugees and closed all detention centers in libya bashar also called on the united nations to corporate and to do its part in protecting the civilians in libya well the spin 3 days since the airstrike on choose

save for a unified u.n. security council response to a marriage this amid reports serious objections to leave the state condemning the attack or following developments from the u.n. headquarters in new york. you could put this in the category of better late than never on wednesday the u.n. security council met for more than 3 hours behind closed doors but was unable to come up with a statement on the airstrike against the migrant detention center in tripoli now they have done so and in addition to condemning the air raid the security council urges all sides in libya to commit to a cease fire it says lasting peace tense the to billet in libya will only come through political solutions and he also the council gave something of an

admonition to other countries without naming any of them but telling him not to interfere in libyan affairs it said that the council call for full respect for the arms embargo by all member states and called on all countries not to intervene in the conflict or take any measures that exacerbated. well libya of course has been cayle since long time ruler moammar gadhafi was overthrown in 2011 is divided between warring militia groups to mostly back to rival governments the un recognized administration led by prime minister fires. is based in tripoli now it's supported by turkey and most western nations including it's the which is worried the fighting near tripoli will force more people to cross the mediterranean in the east there is the tobruk base governments the center of power for her if i have to or he's back spying egypt saudi arabia russia the united arab emirates and france

is also accused of providing military support to his forces though this all comes as turkish president retch uptight parents of one is meeting with the libyan prime minister fires in istanbul he's the leader all of the un recognized governments of course present argument has reiterated his support for saroj and says calling for have to his forces to stop attacks in and around tripoli well let's get more on this. jonah previously served on the atlantic council working group on libya he joins us now a from albuquerque new mexico and. we know there are divisions at the u.n. security council but in your view why did it take so long for that cease fire call to emerge. well it's a very complicated situation and 1st off thank your for again having me on again

today it's a very complicated situation because so many different players are involved in libya today. not only are the united nations united and they're being in it and so forth but a lot of individual states as you just indicated in your in your piece it took a long time to come up with a call for a cease fire because all those competing powers after different agendas in libya. so say stars a cease fire others are excellent place to start but what we really need to see in libya is a reworking of the power sharing agreement that the united nations brokered in december of 2015 given the recent political and military developments on the ground that are sharing agreement the libyan political rape it is simply no longer workable. repairs so what would be working off that agreement looks

like it would be willing to cede more power in a bid to bring some stability to the region. well i think your 1st step would be to convene some kind of a u.n. sponsored. conference and then what you get all the powers to gather all the sides together and you and they recognize that it is a very different political military situation today than it was 4 years ago as part of that one of the reasons the libyan political agreement never worked and look to be on a workbook quite frankly from the very beginning was it was not an inclusive agreement it did not include the tribes the clans the ethnic groups the minister the leaders of libya so what you need now is a reconvening of a similar type of conference aimed at agreement amongst the real powers that are making decisions in libya today and you get that i think it's going to be hard to

get any kind of a cease fire or at least to go beyond a cease fire to something more meaningful who are the real powers he speak of controlling the situation do you think foreign buyers are feeling this conflict. well clearly today you have 2 competing governments other government ashen accordant triply which is a creation of the libyan political agreement in any east you have the house of representatives and generally for hafter new so-called. libyan national army now what is changing the last since the beginning of the year is that after is not only consolidated his power position in the eastern part of the country but he moves south than and southwest and then nor and has largely occupy a good chunk of libya i'm not going to see a percent just to throw

a number up so he's in a much different much stronger position than he was in the past at the same time what we've seen in libya over the last 2 years is an increasing amount of local decision making because the government actually core in tripoli has been very ineffective in terms of making nationwide decisions so you've seen a lot of the power going to municipalities leaders missed balance to tribal councils and so for so again you need to realize that what it was set up in a similar 2015 by the u.n. has never worked and is working even less today than it did then consequently we need to get a different group of people again there and put together an agreement which reflects the power realities in libya today ok ronald's peace and joy and a joining us there from albuquerque thanks very much indeed for your analysis there

thank you. well despite its the conflicts libya remains a major departure points for migrants hoping to reach europe by sea now malta has agreed to take in 54 of them who were rescued its of the coast of libya on thursday they'd been stuck at sea for some time it's really an malta argument over who should let their rescue ship joke in return for accepting the latest group officers a similar number of migrants already in its territory will be sent sea it's only and a german rescue ship has picked up another 65 people from an overloaded day off the libyan coast rescuers say the boats had insufficient drinking water and no navigation system migrants and i received care on board the rescue vessel it's the has already worn the ship against trying to don't count one of its ports. the opposition leaders in sudan are holding

a series of public meetings to explain why they signed a para sharing deal with the military under the agreement to cancel will be set up with the leadership changing from the military to civilians after 21 months while some protesters have welcomed the deal as a victory others say it's a surrender priyanka gupta reports. the deals been done now opposition leaders in the capital khartoum are trying to convince everyone to support it about 105 of the 3 agreement doesn't deal with all the issues but it deals with the levels of transitional power because the final text is now being legally revised and will be humble is to the whole sudanese people.