eyes would give the impression that all this success comes easily and the success of lift and slack can be replicated when that doesn't happen questions are raised about entrepreneurship government legislation and monopolies so here we are in the middle east after the success of right hailing app karim which bought for $3000000000.00 we find out if that success will be replicated we have 2 young startups here in the studio to find out how easy or difficult it is to create a success story but joining us is. intrapreneur and co-founder of wash now and imagine lover be the chief executive of health good to have you both with us and so i want to start by asking you to tell us a little bit about your your business is and give you what's known as the elevator pitch which i'm sure you're familiar with just give us a sort of 32nd to a minute elevator pitch to sell your company magid ruby health of the digital put a company that uses behavior science to help people with their beauties and

pre-diabetes change their habits live healthier and they do is the risk of chronic diseases you know the root of the chronic diseases as behavioral that's why we've designed this bill products and that relies on lifestyle and behavior change interventions we started with the 2 products they abuse prevention and their beauties management both using the behavioral science to let people use a 16 week of free more life some of the case in program that produces clinical outcomes for the wizards from tell us about your watch now is an on demand laundry service or the past couple of years we have built scalable technologies to help people do their laundry hassle free to shorter period of time so watch know what's on the over 4 x. model or on demand model where you can see a laundry pick ups and deliveries so past 2 years we have had help thousands of customers to run 25 percent of which will come from. 5 star hotel residents or

guests to do their laundry with the help of our mobile app and the feed how did you come about your business idea for wash now we want to how we came up with the wash no idea is it was not a new idea globally it was an existing idea but not not in the region so how we came i would watch now was we saw that how it could actually change your day to day life and impact people in their daily life saving time for more important items in their life of friends family or work. it's not about the idea about how we went ahead and launched washed know in 10 days of having this idea that made it different imagine saying to you how did you get the idea for a jew being well. people with their beauties they face a lot of problems here they have to manage their diabetes 24 hours a day 7 days a week and what they get now is basically 4 times maximum to see their doctors in a year and that leaves them struggling with their diet exercise and glucose level control so we thought that we need to give them like

a remote care to their kid so you know like we help them with all this struggles so that's why we wanted to create. a trust a solution that both cater and who wants the care to be you know to use them so that's what we choose the to work in the digital products which is actually kind of described by the doctor to his patients which means the solutions can produce clinical outcomes so when it's it has clinical outcomes that means the doctor himself can prescribe it as a medicine so that's why the patient will trust it and we actually run a lot of clinical trials here and there and we have some kind of like approve that works and of course there's a lot of clinical evidence out there come on we can we can take a look at them and see so that's why we were like yes we need this solution in the middle is because the privilege of diabetes is increasing and that's really like every 6 seconds somebody dies because of babies or like having a lot of complications that actually prevent them from. like

a productive i mean that prevents them from produce to his family or you know like live a healthier life but like any business i'm sure there are challenges to you've had to face to tell us about some of the obstacles you face in setting up this business particularly in this region well you know there are 3 top challenges like they have to face like one of them is fundraising hiring the right stuff and number 3 is more ties in the business to ski. well i think the 3rd one is like it's pretty common between all the startups and like internationally in the region but the 1st 2 is really you know it's very difficult here in the region number one is because like you need to fund your business at the beginning and and this is an idea and you need somebody to believe in it right and in this reason i heard you talking about silicon valley saying about is get used to this kind of like ideas startups kind of thing and they've seen some kind of like a successful startups make a lot of money right but here in the region a lot of engines that we have money we have engine investors we have people like.

ready to invest and the idea stage we're not in the startups is because they don't have a previous experience and as well as they don't see a lot of startups actually making money so that's because my opinion that's like a very big challenge to all the startups in the region but now it's different right now it's different we witness a lot of like cooper like witness right we witness kareem and move like they have a very successful so it is now so the mindset is it's changing now they look for the creative ideas people who can actually learn these ideas to invest in but at the beginning we were blaming a lot of people like you have money why don't you invest and we didn't know that the mindset is. the 2nd one is like of course like hiring staff or for your startups this is basically like finding the right talent the right people that are people is actually ready to come to your door and and wake up every single day and

work with you to take your startup in the 2nd level so i think these 2 in the middle east these 2 challenges are the biggest challenges we face during our startup like it is with the activity and the feed you talked earlier about how your business wash now is not a unique one there are other versions of it elsewhere in the world but what are some of the challenges that they you faced in this region with setting it up. thankfully with that with them. high internet penetration and high tech adoption in the in the region those things have been sorted out for us so that this wasn't a challenge but challenges as. was initially in that it's hard to have people put money in the preceding stage or in the world were really early start up stage people would actually throw in a lot of money once once you're successful or once you have a lot of orders but you have to have people trust in you from your idea to a launch stage that's one of the most challenging things in the region i feel are

also. tech skills when it comes to hiring techs jobs this is a stack start ups this is something that we face on a on a on like on an everyday basis when you are when you have a startup going on over here so you are either forced to outsource to save the money or you are forced to have a tech stuff in-house at a very high or higher price however the weight is held to these are the things that been set up by the government here in qatar so we have gone through the incubation experience and we hear it has been amazing it's not about the financing but the other part of the other part of the incubation experience that they actually provide including access to investors including access to a lot of events and networks as well as other other not financial but indirectly financial things like helping you get your monthly subscriptions for you for your

tech or tech stack or financing or text tax or which which comes as a part of many of the incubation procedures over here so this kind of been like really really helpful but i think there is a long way to go in terms of putting a small preceded mound in and beginning stage startups as well as getting out of mentors to. mentors who are actually failed or haven't had have had us. before to dementor other shops. magister how how easy or difficult has it been for you for your business to access money it's been difficult that it was an easy journey it was difficult like we had to go through a lot of pitches a lot of you know meeting here and there and we were still a lot of time to be honest trying to get some engine investment into the company but again i think this mindset now is changing as my feet said now i think that

that is doing a very good job and educating the engine and businesses to give them like an easy access to these creative and innovative people in tipping those in qatar especially now they do a lot of like conferences and in particular incubators so they can actually match whoever wants and who are interested in tech startups or linguists and in tech. ideas and with and supernews who have this great ideas and how as how as business like help the ecosystem this is kind of the sort of middle east version of. but when you talk to just a random selection people here a lot most people here don't have that app on their on their phones they have and i don't know if it's more popular elsewhere. in the middle east but that's the impression here i mean how do you how is the success of that company help the ecosystem well i think it gives a lot of big push to people here in the middle east to say well if you can do it

now i mean as a sigh as an interpreter and i have a sort of i can do one as well i.e. may disagree with you on the you know a lot of people have given you a lot of people have. i think. has a very grounded like a database that's why you know like interested in buying and buying. i think now that is on the middle east. with this big news about like $3000000000.00 acquisition for karim i think now like the international players they look at the middle east as well there is something year which is this something that was missing to be honest like trying to get some fun like we we went to different conferences and europe or in the u.s. and they have 0 interest in investing in start ups and me in the region but now i think with kareem and moves who until there are there is here like the eye on the

local and the reason and the reason so i think the they give us a big favor and we also have like a big responsibility so we have to move fast we have to say well yes we can do it but we have to have a creative innovative business more than a berthing with us where we can scale fast as and afraid i want to i want to ask you about some of this as well what sort of a message did it send when bought carrying for 3000000000 dollars about the kind of the viability of businesses like that in the middle east globally had it had all the investor eyeballs turning to middle east and the mena region globally now if you look at the g.c.c. region it boosted the confidence of a lot of startup founders startup investors who are already here and people who actually would prefer to work for a startup but for me the most exciting part i found i find is the korean founders

themselves as starter founders when they began and amount of money they might have received from from the whole deal. i'm sure they're going to invest in a lot of other regional startups i'm sure they're going to they're going to help a lot of regional startups and and because they themselves have lived the story and they're really would believe that so when someone who came from came as a start a founder. and and and you get bought out or you get much acquired by a bigger company i'm sure when they plan to invest in future a lot of regional companies would benefit from from that so globally yes a lot of investors have their focus now on the middle east there really feel that to there is money over here i mean there's there is like future money over here if you invest now and i think that's the biggest message that went across from the deal and i want to ask you both as well what sort of impact to businesses like

yours have on job creation in the region particularly among among the young people here so it's very well known that you know like interpreters and who whatever they have a sort of they actually decrease their employment percentage that actually helps a lot of people to come and learn from mistakes we receive a lot of from tunisia for example they can come in or like to like help us and building the company we have a lot of smart people joining now. it really helps the the whole ecosystem to actually come together and build the right ecosystem for startup scene and what you experience from that fetus for us wash now is currently a team of less than 10 people over here in cutter and we have a back office in india where more people work but in terms of giving this experience to to the internes is one of the biggest impact i think we have made as a startup in terms of job creation because they go through the whole process of

start of founders think. how we face the challenges how do we actually takes risks calculated risk and how they can be an entrepreneur in the future so then when they finish their schools or when their break in between the college breaks so we have in turn thanks also to the eco system players over here who actually bring us into ons like the digital incubation center so i think the biggest. impact we are on the job market is not direct but and directly by imparting this knowledge and passing on dispassion to the future entrepreneurs all right we're going to have to bring this to an end measured in murphy thanks very much to both of you for being with us thanks for the person and that is our show for this week remember you can get in touch with us by tweeting me at as i'm seeking and use the hash tag a j c t c when you do autopsy on e-mail counting the cost at al-jazeera dot net is our address there's more few online at c.n.n. dot com slash c.t.c.

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also coming up a last minute phone call between the french and iranian president signs of rob has to step further back from the nuclear deal. also great start voting in an election that polls predict well and 4 years of leftist rule. and a refugee rest. you ship defies italy's government to reach port it's passengers initially blocked now getting off and on dry land. welcome to the program the current round of negotiations with the taliban has been the most productive so far that's the assessment of us but for afghanistan's other made to the 7th round of talks in doha aimed at ending 18 years of war later on sunday taliban delegates will meet rival afghan groups none the fishley represent the government which the taliban is refusing to deal with directly charlotte bella

sat down with the u.s. peace envoy last him about how things have gone. this week is the 7th round of talks how do you feel about the progress between yourselves and the taliban so far very good been the best round so far can you put a percentage number on the progress you've made this week i rather not do that. i would rather say we have made substantial progress on all 4 elements that make the framework that we have agreed to a peace agreement which is as you know assurances on counterterrorism that's important for the united states and the war. would draw all of foreign troops which is important for the taleban interact can negotiations that including a dialogue and an agreement on a road map for the political future of afghanistan and a complete comprehensive permanent cease fire. for the 1st time i can say

we have had substantial progress on all 4 if you find out that the taliban policing some of these armed groups and that potentially al qaeda is still operating inside afghanistan what can you do at that point they know the. red line of work for ronald reagan. trust but verify so there will have to be verification of about with regard to the commanders that are made do you believe that the political i'm here in doha actually has the power to command the taliban back in afghanistan 60 something 1000 fighters. well we don't know that for sure that that's the case here can't speak on behalf of every. all over afghanistan but i do believe that they are there a representative of the leadership they make the point that they're quite united

and what the leadership decides everyone follows and would love to see what kind of guarantees can you give to the afghan people that a lot of the achievements that they have seen with with freedom of press and women's rights over the last 20 years will be retained and a new political system that involves the taliban. they need to. learn about each other the taliban say they have to change that afghans need to know this new taliban have to see what has changed and the taliban need to know what this new afghanistan is like and reach some broader understanding which will acceptance and the terms of an agreement about the future will be negotiated in the negotiations but i believe this is a necessary for a step so i'm delighted that taking place. french president manuel micro as admitted to iran's president hassan rouhani that europe hasn't been able to protect its country from u.s. sanctions and that's according to iran's government after

a phone call between the 2 leaders still. everything possible to prevent the 25th deal from collapsing all together they're looking at ways to resume talks by july the 15th having already gone over iranian stockpile limits agreed under the deal iran is expected to announce on sunday that it will also exceed the cap on your rainy and enrichment but. real definitely not initiate anything to withdraw from the nuclear deal unless the other party does the other party has step by step americans directly and europeans in directly violated the deal we will show reaction exponentially as much as they violate it we reduce our commitments as much as they reduce it if they go back to fulfilling their commitments we will do as well this will happen at a rational and gradual pace dosage of our it takes a look back at the inception of the nuclear deal and how it's unraveled. now july the 14th 2015 was supposed to be the start of

a new era it's been iran and western powers the signing of the joint comprehensive plan of action and with it high hopes for iran's economic future iran along with 5 permanent members of the united nations security council britain china russia france the united states plus germany agreed to put a limit on iran's nuclear development in exchange crippling sanctions or at least most of them would be lifted. last may u.s. president donald trump made good on his election campaign promise and pulled out of the deal since then a wide range of u.s. sanctions have been reimposed on iran's oil dependent economy. the u.s. government says its maximum pressure policy is aimed at getting iran back to the negotiate. iran's highest authority made his position clear during a visit by japan's prime minister last year but. we believe no problem will be

solved through negotiations with the us americans have adopted look similar hostility towards us and they are continuing no liberated nation will accept to negotiate under pressure iran maintains the remaining signatories of the deal have yet to fulfill their end of the bargain due to pressure from the united states which forced president hassan rouhani to trigger a clause in the deal. saying the reduction of our commitments not be trouble from meet iran is a standing as strong and we will put differences aside against us pressures we chose diplomacy over war again. days later iran's atomic energy organization announced a 4 fold increase in production of low enriched uranium which meant iran's stockpile would soon exceed the 300 kilograms allowed under the nuclear deal high level diplomatic efforts fail including a meeting in vienna where iran's deputy foreign minister declared that the european

signatories aren't willing or able to fulfill their ends is. iran finds itself yet again at a crossroads between its own domestic nuclear needs and the concerns of the international community that appears to distrust iran's intentions doris's a bari al jazeera to. refugees migrants have just the latest charity rescue ship to dock at an italian port in defiance of a government ban now the vessel carrying more than 40 people has been impounded in lampedusa well to offer to accept the migrants when italy refused but the crew said it was too far for them to travel they were rescued to all. of libya's coast another charity that collided with a police vessel as it docked at the same port. also a german rescue boats given a problem getting to italy and is now heading to mulcher instead the c.i. tweeted that italian authorities are stopping it from docking and it could wait any longer it's carrying 65 refugees and migrants the captain refused orders to return

them to libya saying they'd end up in torture camps. it is interior minister mateus silvani has been on social media defending his hardline stance 40000000000 or yeah i am not reopening italian ports especially if you ask me to go there is a german ship and then you take care of it or we put them all on a bus in front of the german embassy that's enough and this applies to the french dutch and to anyone who thinks anything can be done in italy or staying in europe voting is just about beginning greece's general election the 1st incident emerged from financial bailouts now these are live pictures from a polling booth in offense as you can see very early stages the opinion polls are predicting defeat for the left wing that prime minister alexis tsipras he called the early election after his series of party was tranced in the european parliament elections still he says he can still pull off a comeback and beat the resurgent center right opposition. possible.

this charity shop in the center of athens has more and more pensioners as customers under the city's a government they have had their benefits cut twice despite it promising it wouldn't follow the austerity policies of previous administrations after 49 years of work and that is going to received a pension of $1600.00 a month that is now down by a quarter but when you're familiar. i used to buy a newspaper i stopped that i used to go out for coffee with friends i stopped it i used to buy a packet of cigarettes a week i cut that now i just sit locked in my home pensioners one of the most hard hit constituencies of the greek crisis and they helped elect cities and in january 2015 endorsed charity in july that year in a referendum 62 percent of greeks voted against further austerity instead cities are capitulated to greece's 3rd emergency loan and partial spending cuts about turn

was unpopular but it balanced the budget and kept greece in the euro zone there are many people who vote that series are in. because syria series that had been promising there will. be a mystic. achievement there voting them out because. they did the right thing they did what was product can practically feasible. last year greece's eurozone partners who were its main creditors said it was no longer dependent on their emergency loans and was fit to return to the markets cities or pronounces it a victory. then we came to unite all greeks we combined our stream without this unity we would not have emerged from our stare at the austerity policies it was so unpopular opposition parties could not resist attacking them that's why

a conservative government unseated a socialist one and was going to turn one seated by serious political parties failed to form a national front to face the national emergency for the past 4 and a half years it has seemed that caesar was immune to the political cost of will stare a tea because it was a new political force having never held power before it wasn't responsible for bankrupting the economy but now that greece has graduated from its state of emergency the greeks appear more willing to accept that they too were to blame for overspending their way into debt and ready to come to terms with the global economy again. al-jazeera athens well still ahead here on al-jazeera the african leaders who could be on the verge of creating the world's largest trading bloc plus . on their lap.