welcome back about top stories here on al-jazeera pakistan says it will put maximum pressure on india over its decision to strip indian administered kashmir of its autonomy the prime minister imran kong called for international intervention following india's move to change the status of the disputed region. india's government soldiers are rejecting criticism from china saying other countries

should stay out of its internal affairs claims part of the kashmir region and have denounced india's move as an acceptable. u.s. national security adviser john bolton says new sanctions against venezuela will cut off funding for president nicolas maduro washington has frozen government assets and blocked american companies and individuals from doing business with the mature a government and its supporters. thousands of people have staged a peaceful protest against a gold mine project in the west and turkey activists say the canadian based company will use cyanide to extract gold from the mines and contaminate the soil and waters of a nearby down the turkish government has rejected the allegations live now the need barca is in the cause mountains income a college promised need some local people are pretty angry about the environmental impact of this gold mine tell us what's been happening. oh yes the tremendous amount of anger and it's not just local you join is it a makeshift protest camp that's emerged quite close to the site of the mine people

being coming here from various parts of the country they've been gathering at this spot and then slowly being bussed to the entrance of the mine to stage a small scale protests before being brought back here they've been demonstrations on a daily basis the largest so far was on monday when several 1000 people gathered and staged a march directly to the entrance of the mine itself and he said we're in the middle of the caf mountains not too far away from here is mount mentioned by homer and greek mythology is the place where the gods looked down on the trojan war well now these environmentalists are looking down on a very different struggle a struggle for the natural environment there's gold in these hills and that means there's a massive scar on the landscape 1500 hectares in size what's concerning the environmentalists most is the fact that 195000 trees have been cut down that's 4 times the number that the canadian base alamosa gold company and its turkish subsidiary said were

just going to be cut down in the initial environmental impact report also great concerns about the possible use of cyanide used to extract the gold from its all worry is that this cyanide will leitch into the soil and contaminate drinking water affecting many of the remote villages and possibly even larger towns in this part of the country the authorities have said that there's no immediate risk the environment that cyanide won't be use the turkish subsidiary has also said that thousands of trees will be replanted but there are worries that the erosion to the top soil will already set in leading to desert occasion meaning that this part of the country will never really be the same as it was before and leave how is the government then likely to respond to these protests. well the governments are of very much aware about what's happening images from this camp and some the protests earlier in the week of being shown on state television we know that there's only

a handful of they're actually guarding the mind at the moment so the authorities are keeping a low profile despite the growing scale of these demonstrations but when it comes to the out sleep the local municipality of china carly what we're seeing is that. the authorities are actually helping the protesters they've been bringing water they've been providing waste bins and son a tree devices as well to help the protesters essentially and lessons have been learned from previous environmental demonstrations both from the authorities perspective and also from the demonstrators well it has been largely peaceful so far entirely peaceful i think it's fair to say but of course the authorities are watching to see exactly where the statement stray ssion goes whether it will grow what we're hearing though from these protesters is that they're here for the long haul but determined to make sure that the canadian company and its turkish ships injury hear their voices all right tony bark at the end of kali in turkey need thank you now dozens of people have been injured in kabul after

a suicide car bomber targeted the police building the taliban have claimed responsibility for the attack in the west of the afghan capital the bomber detonated his car at a security checkpoint outside the building setting off a huge explosion. now lawyers in hong kong are accusing the government of political persecution dozens of judges and lawyers dressed in black staged a silent march towards the department of justice they're demanding an independent inquiry into the mass protests that began 2 months ago nearly 600 people have been arrested so far and some of the largely peaceful rallies turned violent the lawyers say police are only going after the protesters but not the alleged gang members who attacked demonstrators. well the protests triggered by a controversial extradition beloved grown into a broader movement against beijing's control over the city and the ongoing unrest is threatening hong kong's reputation for stability which is having an economic cost to thomas explains. in calling monday's strike protesters in hong kong directly targeting the territories economy to make their political points but the

protests which started in june have already been having a financial impact. shoppers are staying away. retail revenues in june were down 7 percent year on year figures for july and august are expected to show much bigger drop still. business is terrible terrible people have lost the desire to spend tourists to a missing especially those from mainland china. mainlanders like us afraid to run in to protest i won't be rushing back i ride away. down tourists losing confidence in hong kong is one thing but if international credit rating agencies do too that could be disastrous. and escalate. and become uncontrollable then that will have significant impact on hong kong credit

rating hong kong's current credit rating schools a similar to those of the united states there are a lot better than mainland china's because hong kong is seen as economically and legally independent. the process could mean a downgrade either because they make hong kong a more difficult place to do business or because evidence of beijing asserting itself would undermine the independence that many consider makes hong kong special a downgrade would mean hong kong's government and any firm listed here pays nor to borrow. hong kong's economy was already sluggish weighed down by the us china trade war and sky high house prices were beginning to tip top of the and move away. and you can find that impact of the political instability so. many people are willing to enter the market in this kind of situation the protests could tip hong kong into recession it's too soon to know the full impact of the

protests economic data takes a month or more to feed through and who knows whether the celtic have reached their climax or going to get worse but what has been lost already is hong kong reputation for stability that will have a cost even if it's unclear yet how great that cost will be andrew thomas al-jazeera hong kong now the f.b.i. says it will investigate a mass shooting in the u.s. state of ohio saying the gunman had an interest in violent ideology investigators will try to find out what influence 24 year old khan abets to open fire in a popular nightlife area in dayton on sunday he was wearing body armor and killed 9 people including his sister in about 30 seconds the f.b.i. would also investigate if anyone helped him or knew of his plans. health ministers of rwanda and the democratic republic of congo have reached an agreement on how to fight the bone the outbreak previous outbreaks of affected some of the diaz's neighbors but it's the 1st time it's reached rwanda after meeting in descend on

tuesday the ministers have agreed to tighten the health screening at their borders and improve the sharing of information under the doctors were also trying to help professionals in d r c to better treat both patients. now troops have been deployed to restore calm in malawi's capital after fighting between protesters and the police have been continuous demonstrations since president putin with reka won a 2nd term in april just to say the vote was tampered with and are demanding the resignation of the electoral commission's head out as there was reports. opposition supporters in malawi say mase presidential election was rigged to favor peter who narrowly won reelection of opposition leader. many people joined in the demonstrations across the country they say they want the head of the electoral commission gone. to journalism must resign in the midst of an election.

laws or she doesn't. stop. people from demonstrating. against. rights of the people. opposition parties insist there were lots of irregularities analysed many votes were altered using typewriter correction fluid election officials deny this. in some areas the army blocked roads to government buildings. president has accused the opposition are trying to sabotage the economy and spread chaos his ruling d.p.p. party denied allegations of vote rigging and fraud but these people on the streets . the way we voted on the results that were announced to natalee there were so many real ality that is what has prompted me to join the marches. the constitutional court says the election dispute will be heard on august 8 opposition supporters are

to stay on the street. outside. campaigners against people trafficking in britain are accusing government organizations of failing to protect victims and they say hundreds of exploited workers are running up in jail when they should be in the hospital being treated for torture injuries. as a meeting some of the many victims of slavery. complicate being beaten having both arms perforated his tooth broken by the criminals who kept him as a slave little wonder then that is true. people is shattered leave from vietnam doesn't want us to use his real name or show his space and we've disguised his voice after being trafficked to the u.k. he was forced to work inside an illegal kind of response. they beat me they hit me in the face if anything was to go wrong they said they would lose 100000 pounds the value of the crop in the house and then they'd cut my throat was

arrested and then convicted despite telling the author it is he was a victim of trafficking halfway through his custodial sentence he was placed in an immigration detention center the u.k. home office had mistaken him for another vietnamese man they thought they'd already deported that left with lasting mental health problems border patrol or many times i wanted to commit suicide because i felt depressed and had too much pressure i had nobody to talk to and didn't know what was going to happen to me lead did win his case against the home office but both imprisonment but his lawyer told us that victims are often treated as criminals by the author when they enter the u.k. and when they're here they're then forced into criminality. and then finally as has happened in this case when when when you're finally found by a public authority for example the police when you think that you're finally going to be saved you are then in fact criminalized and subsequently detained by the home

office irrigation the time slot. many victims of modern day slavery are hidden in plain sight controlled by those intent on exploitation last year in the u.k. just over $3600.00 suspected victims were identified a recent report by after exploitation found that in 28 team more than 500 suspected victims of trafficking were held in u.k. detention centers and campaigners say that its role as an immigration and force or often means the u.k. home office doesn't deal correctly with victims of trafficking clearly when a victim of trafficking is detained this is this is horrific and should not be happening there needs to be a clear separation of powers between people identifying victims of trafficking and immigration authorities levy is still fighting to overturn his conviction but i want this says the government is committed to protecting the vulnerable and

treating those in detention with dignity and respect and it says decisions about detention and whether somebody is a victim of modern day slavery are made on a case by case basis campaigners say the whole system needs an overhaul when sure that cases like that of late don't happen again and i would al-jazeera in london. part time for a quick check of the headlines on al-jazeera pakistan says it will put maximum pressure on india over its decision to strip indian administered kashmir of its autonomy prime minister imran khan called for international intervention following india's move to change the status of the disputed region india's government source or rejecting criticism from china saying other countries should stay out of its internal affairs beijing also claims part of the kashmir region denounced india's

move as an acceptable. u.s. national security advisor john bolton says new sanctions against venezuela will cut off funding for president nicolas maduro washington has frozen government assets and blocked american companies and individuals from doing business with the dura government and its supporters. thousands of people have staged a peaceful protest against a gold mine project in western turkey activists say the canadian based company will use cyanide to extract gold from the mines on contaminate the soil waters of a nearby dam the turkish government has rejected the allegations dozens of people have been injured in kabul after a suicide car bomber targeted a police building the taliban have claimed responsibility for the attack in the west of the afghan capital the bomber detonated his car at a security checkpoint outside the building setting off a huge explosion. noise in hong kong are accusing the government of political persecution dozens of judges and lawyers dressed in black staged

a silent march toward the department of justice that demanding an independent inquiry into the mass protests that began in 2 months ago. nearly 600 people have been arrested so far lawyers say you can lease are only going after the protesters not the alleged gang members were touched demonstrators. health ministers of rwanda and the democratic republic of congo have reached an agreement on how to fight the bone the outbreak previous outbreaks of affected some of the neighbors but it's the 1st time it's reached rwanda after meeting in descending on tuesday the ministers have agreed to tighten the health screening of their borders and improve the sharing of information around and doctors were also trained health professionals in d r c to better treat patients. but those are the headlines the news continues here on al-jazeera after inside story structure thanks so much and i felt.

kind of web fueled by stopped radical hate by the 1st spread over the internet have often been followed by killing sprees government and tech companies are coming under mounting pressure to take action is the correct balance between censor and violent content and maintaining freedom of speech this is inside story. hello welcome to the program. from the weekend's shootings in the united states to the mosque attacks in new zealand and many more besides they are all linked to websites which allow hate and radical speech the suspects thought to have

manifested as before carrying out their murderous attacks they didn't choose browsers we all logged into every day but a deeper darker layer of the internet where you can hide your identity and location be anonymous and difficult to track the subterfuge raises questions about the responsibility of tech companies and websites to control what can be posted governments are also exploring how to regulate the internet. the u.s. president has highlighted of the internet danger following saturday's shooting in a paso a case 20 people were killed after hate filled document against hispanic americans was posted online. the shooter in el paso posted a manifesto online consumed by racist hate in one voice our nation must condemn racism bigotry and white supremacy these sinister ideologies must be defeated hate has no place in america we must

recognize that the internet has provided a dangerous avenue to radicalize disturb my eyes and perform demented acts we must shine a light on the dark recesses of the internet and stop mass murders before they start let's take a look at the recent attempts to counter online hate speech following the mosque attacks in mosques new zealand and france presented what's called the christ church call 18 government support of the non-binding pledge aimed at eliminating terrorist and violent extremist content online the us government declined but all major american tech companies signed up to it facebook twitter and yet you have banned many accounts linked to fake news and hate speech following the attack and network provider block the anonymous message board

a chan the wal-mart shooting suspect is the 3rd this year to upload hate filled documents before the tax. let's bring in our guest in washington d.c. brian he is a professor at the american university and fellow of the center for analysis of the radical right where has that is extremism and digital technology in berlin caroline sin the online harassment research a fellow at both harvard kennedy school and would sell a foundation in new york ryan broaddrick is a senior reporter for bus feed news covering platforms and web culture welcome to all brian took us through what could possibly be the best way to and online hate speach. well it's somewhat out of our hands there's

a vast array of pressures public pressure financial pressure and law enforcement pressure that are as you said pushing these sites such as 8 chan further and further to the margins of the web 1st we saw extremist groups being banned from mainstream social media as a response they began to develop their own platform clones that mimicked sites like twitter and facebook but these clones relied on their own set of internet web services to provide protection and hosting as we're seeing however after of events such as the pittsburgh synagogue shooting and now the paso wal-mart attack the companies that provide these services are themselves severing business allies which is leading the extremist media ecosystem further and further to the margins of what we might call the regular internet and at

a certain point i think that these pressures of public outcry financial pressure and legal oversight are apt to force these groups as you said on to the dark web and when that happens and i think it's a question of when rather than if we absolutely have to have strategies already in place to avoid seeing this past week owl of the reason why i ask you this question about the whether the there is a a way to this boy's an oiler is. we know what is happening and who is involved but this whole people question is about whether there is a lack of political will for government or is it just purely a technical issues the has to be overcome before moving forward thank you so much for that question i think it's a mixture of both and let's take a step back and sort of look alist to be at the problem and working as

a researcher in civil society it's it is harder to begin to even try to critique the technical infrastructure of social networks like facebook twitter etc because there is not a lot of transparency into the deeper designs of those systems and we think about content moderation i would say though major mainstream platforms like facebook and twitter actually do have pretty good hate speech policy rather it's it's seeing it in active writ large across many different. across me different countries there is robust hate speech laws here in germany and we do see that someone affected more on twitter there are examples to people changing their location on the gaming streaming platform twitch to be able to to germany to filter out different kinds of hate speech and sickness really what i think is important to sort of look at this moment is it is hard to provide i think suggestions or a clear pathway forward when there is such little transparency into content moderation systems that are analyzing things like hate speech. on the opposite side

i think it's also hard to sort of call for regulation from country to country this is where i think when we start to look at different policies are being passed in the european union in the inside of parliament g.d.p. are is something that looks extremely hopeful right the way that we're starting to look at how content being regulated inside of a space like the european union we could potentially see something like that around speech and content moderation with the one thing i do want to one thing i want to quickly highlight though is facebook as a mainstream platform is quite different than. chan which is not a mainstream social network and it is important in these conversations possible he wise to separate those 2 we would go more in details about what should be done of the legal framework and example set by other countries brian h. and has become the focal point of the for those asking for the flow of this hate speech to be disrupted all line and h. and allows for unmoderated community which basically means that you can go there an

enormously and do whatever you want to do and post whatever you want to do from a technical perspective a please to someone like me or to our viewers it's simple shut down the platform of their choice over right the issue is and i want to point out something that i heard earlier said on this program which is that. the idea that this might be some sort of dark wherever some sort of fringe of the internet it's not a chain is a pretty basic website it's you go on to it and you write whatever you want and then people write whatever they want and that's the whole thing any website can radicalise the way ajahn did it's not like facebook or twitter or instagram that has an algorithm that's moderating content or has any real moderators at all it's it's just a website it's just a comment section so from a technical standpoint there's nothing particularly malicious about it it's just that because it's so free and open it's you know a huge draw for extremists content and for radicalization but there's nothing

particularly nefarious about the web site itself was started as a message board to talk about anime. bryant so is technology the way to tackle this issue because with faced such problems in the past you should done h h n n h and could move towards a new spinoff or other companies would step in so we're back to square one this is my question is to brian sorry yes. yes if there's a technical solution to this i think it has yet to be engineered i think that really the best hope we currently have lies in civic watchdog groups and to the extent that it's illegal for the government to oversee and investigate the content and the users of this than that strategy although government's hands are largely tied and sometimes with good reason. sure one thing i want to highlight i believe

i'm not i have to refine sort of what brian and brian are both saying. the thing about a chant is it's true it is it's a board based communication platform we could call it a social network it is just comments the thing about it is it has almost no moderation rules outside of posting copyrighted material or child pornography and that's what makes it different than 4 chan which it's a clone of 4 chan and i believe is 2013 started passing rules around oxegen harrar harassment related to the harassment campaign game or gate similar with reddit which has read a kit and has a specific kind of rule structure it's not always an active but what they do have are content policy and terms of service agreements that exist inside of those spaces i think it's more fair to group 8 chan into the space of the daily stormer and i bring that up as an example specifically because in cloud flare his blog post they mention both cutting service to the daily star and cutting service to chan these weren't websites that existed on the dark web they exist on our clear web on

our actual internet and they will reappear back on the clear web they will probably find some other service provider but what's important is that google has delisted for example google search results to a chance before their takedown and i believe them to the daily storm or the amount of friction you add for a regular user to find these sites is important and this is what the i think the term and the idea behind the platforming is so important ok it will make it harder for people to find the site you make it harder for for other people to be radicalized and to join the boys and that's likely important argument here mrs brodrick you bunch of the fact that the line between what what was considered to be full if 3 inch social media platform the mainstream one h h and the problem is the protected by contend delivery and security networks and these different. it is within the whole spectrums saying basically that we don't

have a sense of clarity about how to move forward and ultimately we cannot afford to be in the in an uncharted territory it's up to the government and to the other international organizations to tell us what should be done before we can step into this new to made that's right and it's similar to the conversations that happened around moderating isis about 5 or 6 years ago that i think a lot of these private companies are waiting for government bodies to step in and say ok this is what legally constitutes white nationalism and this is our federal policy on it the issue that we're seeing and we're probably going to see this start pretty soon is that you can knock down each and all you want you can remove services from it. the poison that infected it isn't god it's not going anywhere i think it is safe to say that the internet is a more radical and more polarized space than it was 10 years ago in fact this weekend there was a 2nd shooter who was heavily involved in the grindcore punk community he was

a you know person who would share let's say far left or any fascist material on the internet that's not what radicalized him you know that's not what happened to him it's that you have a generation of an incredibly angry men who are using the internet to socialize with each other in completely unmoderated spaces and as long as unmoderated spaces exist the male violence that we're seeing in not just america but in every country on earth is going to continue and i think that every time we have this conversation about can we knock down a website with some sort of technical fix well we need to talk about what the technical fixes for a generation of men who are carrying out this sort of violence on a scale that like we don't seem to want to deal with and i think that seems to get blurred in the conversation every time we talk about this sort of thing because i think talking about moderating security infrastructure for a chan is an easier thing to talk about and it requires less soul searching missa here's i mean if you look into past experiences the e.u.

along with the main tech networks companies particularly facebook twitter and you to have signed a code of conduct in 2016 the german up assuming a very aggressive policy if you don't flag up content within 24 hours you might be applying the could amount to something like 50000000 euros and the french are saying sorry sometimes we need companies to hunt the digital identity of some of those people who are spreading that online otherwise you might face problems why aren't the americans doing the same thing. well the american government at least its hands are somewhat tied as well these these companies like 8 chan are protected under what's called section $230.00 of the communications decency act which essentially states that so long as they don't edit and don't cure rate their content as long as they only provide a neutral platform then they're not legally liable for any of the content that

flows through it except as as was said before for child pornography and previously copyrighted material i think that what is happening in the e.u. is an excellent example that the united states should be seriously looking at and following and that tech companies in the united states should be voluntarily adopting some some of what happens on the internet follows what's called the california emissions effect where cars the metaphor is that cars built in california have lower emissions so therefore cars all over the u.s. have lower emissions the standards and practices that silicon valley undertakes have a way of die fusing outward and becoming larger standards that companies use international ok so i think there's an appeal to the conscience of these these corporations that has to be made to the extent that they can be reached by the same time this is my

question to cut a line you have critics saying that the caveat to this new codes of conduct the have been established with that over the last few years is basically they give the tech companies no say over deciding what is legal and not legal this could further undermine the freedom of expression is there any middle ground over here. just a note i'm not a legal scholar but i always hesitate any kind of argument that is sort of if we do x. it begets y. because let's work with specific case cases here and in the case in this very example we're not talking at all tech companies we're talking about a channel we're talking about a site that has had issues with child pornography we're talking about a site that has no almost no come to moderation tools and has almost no moderation rules this is a very different website than per say facebook facebook does have robust policies on things like hate speech and online harassment but again it's seeing it and acted at large the bigger point here and problem i think to highlight and i think ryan is

the one highlighting this is why how is this how does this keep replicating and happening in spaces like a chant in 4 chan what are what are the ways around it what are what are the rules around it and i think it's important to look at not just how are we defining hate speech though that is an extremely important part of this conversation it is important to think about when we define that hate speech what is to be done about it what is the systems meaning that it's a one thing i want to highlight for example when reddit had the sub read it right which they removed in february 2017 that the on the sidebar describing the rules of that sub read it because each side read it like fortune and h. and the creator can be the moderator they specifically called themselves promoters of white identity and white nationalism no one falls into white nationalism accidentally it's not a thing you ironically are it's a political ideology of the far right it is serious it is about the supremacy of

of the white race might identity and there's nothing ironic or the entire about that and i use those words specifically when we start to look at the subcultures unfortunate each and then deal with irony and then satire is also important to highlight we start to look at things i through an american context american or.