improvement i do care if they sell that data up and i care about my data being stored indefinitely so i think this is a crucial point for a lot of people sam talk to us about who this data gets sold to who wants it who are these 3rd party organizations. you know and that's that's a great question you know and that's that's the problem itself is we don't know who these 3rd parties are and we don't we the united states at least lacks any federal data privacy law that discloses or requires that transparency and so luckily in the e.u. you know that you can have the g.d.p. our law but right now we don't know you know who they're sharing it with and so you know a lot of times you know it's a little bit too you know if you know that they these companies they may you know collect or have our data our voices but a lot of times you know it extends beyond just these devices you know it could be your apps and these are browser extensions or browser apps and they can they can collect your pictures they can they can collect your data about your d.n.a.

your travel itineraries and your personal documents and then and then all of this may be captured by 3rd parties and so and then be shared with that that there are parties going to go in this really cuts to the core of the sort of the market mismatch in the digital economy the way it felt we we are accustomed to getting lots of valuable things for free in the way that money is recouped as they sell our information it's transparent it's not true i mean it's completely opaque as to where it's sold and to how much the value of our information is but in general at least to date we have a good necessarily willing to pay for things once we've been exposed to using the prefer so i think that this is almost like an original sin of the digital economy going way back to the early days of the internet but we are paying for. devices we are paying good money for them we're paying money to use them so it's not exactly so then a ship a simple team security into that i'm just curious sam when these new devices have

pulled out is there a process in the testing states where i think ok what are the ethical issues that we need to examine is that just happen later after the point has happened. i mean companies like amazon google you know facebook you know they they do take these into consideration you know they're working on it but we need more stringent you know safeguards and so you know they may not be looking at the whole economy and as you know selling their data to somebody else we don't know what that 3rd party is doing with our data so they me tell us and say ok we gave it to company y. but what is whose company why sure i'm not with them and so there's all these degrees of separation that we don't really know about and all of those really need to be looked into and explored more. and this is where i think it comes back to the tillett if for each individual because you know a company they i do think that all the companies take pains to at least make their

devices not seem creepy but that's because they want to sell more devices that you know even if they mean well or that you know they don't mean anyone ill their ultimate goal is just to sell the devices so i think it comes back to what an individual is getting out of it and not just trying to sort of have something that's trendy or cool because it is going to be opaque what they're doing with these things the question is are we as consumers getting value from them because otherwise you're just sort of giving them your money and all your data and everything you know you really need to be thinking about what you're getting back in deciding what you use here's someone who would agree with you this is alvin allen on twitter says ideally people would get a fuller understanding of how these devices work and all the possible things that can happen with the recordings of their voice before deciding to purchase companies have made this difficult though in my opinion because they know these details may hurt sales exactly what you were saying there but i want to play

a video comment from someone else who's echoing an idea we brought up but really honing in on it this is sarah freer she's a tech reporter at bloomberg and here's her take. companies need to be honest about the fact that when we give them data for artificial intelligence purposes it's not just machines looking at that data often it's humans who are parsing through it transcribing it cataloging and testing the computer is efficiency and accuracy and if we don't know what's happening with our data we can't make appropriate decisions for our own privacy it's very important that they disclose to us exactly what stage they're in with their artificial intelligence and exactly how much human involvement there will be in achieving what we asked the products to do so i would she want disclosure what do you think that we as consumers need to be doing to ensure our privacy is protected. so kevin kelly talks a bit about that sometimes he's got

a well known thinker on this and the need for some kind of artificial intelligence agent that actually represents us because frankly if we were to receive disclosures every time that our data was being used today out of system all we would do all day long would be received disclosures and try to read disclosures that tell paraiso the systems are so so i think that it's really an issue where yes we should be told but there has to be a better way for us to gain control 1st of all that at the inception of whether we want to participate so i could have all of 2 understanding's or maybe red flags that hey this is something that your interest may be violated or you be concerned you would look because just the idea of like policing all our data totally impossible. probably the best example of what could possibly happen to the data is from a p.r. company that doesn't exist anymore called cambridge analytical in the u.k. and how they used potential voters and what happened and i would just remind you

have a look. in 2015 the political consulting firm cambridge analytics gained access to data from more than 50000000 facebook users for political advertising purposes the data suggested what kind of advertisement would most likely persuade a particular person in a particular location for some political ad that information from cambridge analytical was leveraged to influence political events around the world including the 2016 u.s. presidential election and the 26000 bricks that both tech companies are just getting sharper collecting and using information about us and while the long term consequences potential misuse of so much personal data collection remains largely unknown we don't seem to be limiting the data we leave behind. some of it i'm just thinking i wonder if we actually even care as consume is because every time that we sign on to an apple if i say yes it's

a whole list of options if we say no it was he has his say it said oh ok and then we sign off on it i wondering whose responsibility is it to make sure that to say yes so. it's a little bit of it works on both you know both and so the companies you know obviously need to be transparent they need to offer explicit consent and then we as you know users of the internet and these devices we need to be able to read you know all this data and we need to be able to be and formed we need to understand what we're doing we need to be educated most of all and so you know i think that you know it would be better perhaps you know if these companies provided us you know with the periodic intervals of you know our data privacy choices so that at least we know what's going on you know a lot of the times we inadvertently accept you know these data privacy choices and we don't know you know what they're doing with our data and so i think that the

more users can be informed the more users can be educated the better decisions we can make overall when i pass up. the smiley 5 because their 1st royal new york times is that a real some really good research and really is probably read this through on how difficult it is to read terms of service that are required to get in to sign up for these systems and often the reading will require almost a college education 2nd i think we've been socialized to such a degree that we just don't pay attention that actually some researchers that i think was york university included in a fake social network app that they were testing out in the final term was you assigned to us the rights to your 1st child how can something like 98 percent as you say as what coag. really you know well and i think but really the onus is not unused should not be on users you know who are just trying to live their lives you know do for their families things like that like it is

shouldn't be required that we lay off but i've got a quick question for you alex has siri sam has siri you have not seen i am wondering what you know that the rest of us don't know does he just quit well how do what i was going to say it was it's not it's not a sort of big deal with to me and you know my life with these particular things and what i was going to say is there's a lot of places like all the 3rd party data sharing on social networks and things like that where it's just impossible for users and i chose to keep track of it all and i really do think the onus should be on the tech companies were 3rd parties or regulators or whatever you think not you know the great hours far away but when it comes to something like slide assistance jumping like a potentially live mike in your house it's be it's a little bit creepy so that's like was a little bit creepy last was really thank you thank you. it sums up the

conversation nicely thank you very much. so i'll end with this term and ray who pitched the idea for today show after seeing a show that we did on facial recognition emory says i don't think the impact of technology is discussed much as it should be as such my suggestion is the impact of speech recognition attack and data privacy issues it may bring so and we hope that we did this topic justice for you alex and sad that agony thanks for being with us today you can always find a link i myself always online at 3 to see you next time and to watch. in the next episode of techno the team travels to the part of the amazon. where we are now should be grateful to investigate illegal gold mining mercury had

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brazil's president agrees to take international aid to fight blazes in the opposite pushes ahead with policies which may cause more wildfires. but i'm julie mcdonald this is a live from also coming up russia and turkey agreed to new measures in an effort to end the violence in syria's last rebel still. has former prime minister is back in court for another corruption trial. a pro bush an activist have been thrown a legal lifeline in the u.s. state of minnesota. in their warm welcome to the program brazil says it's now willing to accept foreign aid to help fight the fires ravaging the allison as long as it decides how to use

them. any earlier brazil's president jabal some had said his government would find its own solution to the crisis in the meantime he's pushing ahead with plans to develop a farm protected digitas reserves which is illegal under current law daniel swire has more now from port avail in brazil's amazon region so that if the president job also nado says the situation is under control he sent in the army in the rainy season has arrived brazil he says will solve its own problems well look after the amazon north. god willing to gether will find a solution to these fires and give such as faction to rest of the world and people who think like mr micawber should think 2 or 3 times before wanting to get out of a complicated situation like he finds himself with an enormous rejection rate in his country and wanting to damages. after meeting in brasilia with amazon the state governors ball scenario even suggested there should be more developments in the amazon region hours later

a congressional committee approved in the memo to allow commercial agriculture on indigenous reservations something that is currently prohibited still will get us out yeah sure we're winning this war with the support of you all to show what the amazon region is to show its potential and the benefits of can bring to all including our brothers be indians also has the support of the us president with whom he has a close relationship and the shared love of tweeting. reaction in brazil to their president's handling of the crisis has been mixed in game. no one can leave completely alone no one grows alone any help is always welcome as long as it's well intended. cannot be linked to any kind of submission to foreign countries brazil must have autonomy over the amazon we cannot accept this internationalization of the amazon. any further development of the amazon will be met with strong opposition from around the world however it's the indigenous communities who live

in the forest those with the most to lose who will react the strongest but for the people who live here in the amazon region this is normal natural they burn and they will burn again next year because they believe with the backing of their political leaders that this is the best way to develop this land. also nora believes this is brazil's land to develop and resents foreign interference but you international community feels it can't simply watch as the so-called lungs of the burn down which one al-jazeera. northwestern brazil wealthy i go down to go is the director of institutional strategy and intelligence at our core device that's the public affairs firm he explains why bowl so narrow back tracked on accepting that internationally. what changed his mind is that his position to reject some of these offer wasn't coordinated with other members of the brazilian government and of the

brazilian state. the speaker of the house he expressed this morning that this is money that brazil needs because a few days ago president bush for not has said that there isn't enough money to more knitter and combat these fires at the amazon so although brazil is a very wealthy country the allocation of money is a very bureaucratic procedure and in this particular area there wasn't enough money so we had several. on coordinated responses about this help from france and from the g 7 which at the end of the day allowed president also not to make this commentary that didn't resonate well with other peers in the brazilian government i think that this is rhetoric towards the internal brazilian. public because it's all of us that do the usage of this money would be determined by the brazilian authorities it would be impossible for any of this help to come and for the g 7 to

determine how to employ this money during the past decades and many years we had the amazonian fund which was funded by norway and germany and not in a single moment germany and norway decided how this money would be used it was always 100 percent a decision of the brazilian government on how to use so this comment is more towards the brazilian public there wants to see this demonstration of independence in the usage of money than anything else. the presidents of turkey and russia say they hope to work together to ease tensions in adlib province in a move which could help decide the course of the syrian conflict government forces backed by russia have launched a ground offensive in one of the last rebel held areas in syria turkey though supports some rebel groups and says the fighting's putting its troops in danger said us in hama has more now from so called that's where the talks are being held.

will be. part of it was an unusual venue for the hastily organized high level meeting before the situation in syria it lip province could be discussed turkish president ratchet tired out a one was treated to a show of russia's latest up abilities. and had russian ice cream then they discussed the issue of the turkish president really travel to moscow for the escalating violence in italy calling it the humanitarian tragedy of one came to ask bloody near put in to rein in syrian courses but put in did not make any promises to raise the. terrorist continue to show russian positions and syrian forces they try to attack russian bases we hope that the deescalation zone will be a refuge for the rebels and should not be a platform to make attacks we discuss joint measures to neutralize terrorist hotbeds and it labe and to normalize the situation in this region and in syria as a whole further one angered by an attack on

a turkish convoy in northern syria earlier this month and the surrounding of one of turkey's observation posts in years that the behavior of syrian forces is an acceptable series.