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in south africa is no better this is a great motivator for us to keep giving back to these communities on al-jazeera. how about i'm christi paul in london with the top stories on al-jazeera it has been another momentous day in british politics prime minister boris johnson lost his parliamentary majority one of his m.p.'s defected to the pro e.u. liberal democrats johnson has vowed to leave the e.u. on october 31st even if it means crashing out without a deal but dozens of m.p.'s including some from his own conservative party want to stop that right now they're debating a motion to prevent a no deal bracks is and will vote on it shortly if they're successful johnson has suggested he'll ask for a snap election the report's. britain's
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democracy is at war. with itself. as protest as march to westminster. return from the summer recess pointed to seize control of parliamentary business bloc boris johnson. m.p.'s including prominent figures in johnson's own conservative party have joined forces with opposition m.p.'s to prevent the country leaving the e.u. without a deal on october 31st they want to pass an emergency motion later this evening to take control of the parliamentary timetable and extend the breaks it deadline on conservative m.p. defected to the opposition liberal democrats meaning johnson no longer has a majority in parliament if m.p.'s do pass a bill to prevent a no deal exit johnson says he'll have no choice but to push to hold a general election enough is enough the country wants this done and they want the referendum respected we are negotiating
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a deal and there i am supposed to do my i go i heard i don't produce getting a deal we will leave by october the 31st in the circumstances reality or no deal breaks it's being called reckless by the opposition labor leader no deal. to speak will mean food shortages reduced medical supplies and chaos at our ports not me not me saying that the government's own leaked analysis. and it warns of chaos all across the board john his decision to shut down parliament for a month beginning next week outraged his opponents they say leaves no time to debate breaks it increasing the chances of a no deal departure johnson supporters see no deal as an important negotiating position with the e.u. but many conservative party rebels don't have ready to risk their jobs to prevent it there are lots of pressures are currently. being threatened with the selection
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and it will be those who are weighing up the loyalty against the national interest this is this is painful and hard but i think we have the right that has distorted british politics uniting all the potence dividing old alliances the country is careering towards a new brakes a climax with a question that's confounded the country and the continent is whether we're approaching a breakthrough for knowledge or simply another cliffhanger. even if johnson loses to the opposition the rebels for his party this evening he still needs the backing of most m.p.'s to trigger a snap election. opposition parties are now weighing up the risks of a possible vote for now the battle lines are drawn the government and parliament are fighting for the right to determine britain's branksome future leave barca al-jazeera london. iraq and dorian is inching away from the bahamas after slamming
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into the island nation as a category 5 storm officials say they're in the midst of a historic tragedy as reports more deaths and widespread damage and u.n. officials estimate more than 60000 people will need food following the catastrophic storm the strongest ever to hit the bahamas the hurricane is now heading towards the southeastern u.s. . and u.n. experts have released a report saying all parties in the yemen conflict may be involved in war crimes reported q says the saudi u.a.e. coalition a coalition of killing civilians with air strikes and deliberately denying them 8 despite them being on the brink of famine investigators have given a list of suspects to the un rights chief. and those are the latest headlines here on al-jazeera stay with us witness is next but by.
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now i juss iraq. where ever you. when your love but. i've never really fit into any mold or any group i've heard it all like you're not somali enough you're not a good muslim you're not american enough. have multiple identities multiple things that make me what i am. that's what makes me. not an easy thing to be when the world wants you to be like one thing or the other. a young
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american all the fashion industry by told. me you job will be mortal signed by a major mourning agency to date which achievements for a girl who was once a week she's not posing for shoes truck one week. this cannot be my life. right. up with her girl. what happened. i'll never live. that start. just go go. and look great why.
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don't. you think you sir are perfect receiver turned on the p.c. so thinking the latest thinking was when people wanted to play some stuff and. everything happening it's like february but then it literally goes new york london milan. paris for weeks now and then back to back. and i don't know what will be a part of the mind of the privy thing finally it's still not something.
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but i think to find the place that i was on. some guy germany into. barbie all of the soviet after listening. to one of my mcmahon really was a just and that her german half and. that's a. joke so she asked me what i talk about. when i'm at
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school on the spectator nice we have lots of opportunities that come out of the fact that she's such a good speaker now and people want that story as you build a name for yourself and opens up only kind of an opportunity to build a business out of it marilla. i mean money to go more than a little awesome and way money where money is that just like you. progress you know on the go but on other little. you. have to do you know how. besides modeling she said you know i think i can just work or do something else besides modeling like is there a way to just be like ok. i think all of those things that we're spreading out into
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kind of become something that's full time because modeling isn't going to always be very good. but i was one of those it's the word model it's like everything i know are fake i can mock the most although she doesn't like the they don't like yours they don't get the word when i was. you know mckay welcome to the mill the good comedy. regular i had them look at of moco has if you did i don't know what i learned a because small fear in a day of my life has shattered then i'm out there used to people saying ok i've been taken off the hejab and i'm going to be a model but the other i don't where do you. how do. you have. to do. you know. because. i'm happy
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why i like unhappy me here at the same time because that about happen that i do i know the end of the day i walk with the black one hasn't got our liking and i have said family go well for us really well and hasty you know had we have had good. does it really. house that argument is why we were fake god because he vowed not to get out you know. i don't know i'm going to bring it home but look yes i mean i already knew where she stood with the whole i mean that we have been going to a longing you know it's i mean i. think you know i think in all like all groups somebody has to go out and be the 1st you know that's not a bad thing is just it's not easy.
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ladies and gentlemen welcome to the 27th you miss it assuming you are serious you are safe i don't live for me i'm sitting here but i'm still a little so let's begin by meeting contestants private so i don't have this room to see us get this. though my roommate was pretty tall and you don't know all i was like 12 time look i never sit down with them and that's a whole you know used to it so i can't see any of the right mr nice wallace. and there isn't anyone yet but. i know now that i could look ok so. i've put myself in this position so other people can see our human side but with that also comes
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a lot of responsibility. i know in that one long stop it can potentially change how a lot of parents see girls. was no mark not to do that ok. well i would if someone was watching. that's how they got. hired i think look the other took the money in my mouth but i . want to swear to god i was so much it was jeff good. to see and for everything that was one world. i'm. going to. let me. 6 be here. so those girls i love you and support you so much but i just
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want to warn you you shouldn't wear tight cause because this shows your body and that is not part of. this is just advice from someone who wants the best for you along. so much for caring enough to be me but modest to personal preference and i really liked that dress. going down. to the small i mean. that's the goods. this is a song for them to sell this event to someone new woman. oh my gosh more so miley been. that's how the bush looked like.
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he was. my gosh i remember this yes this is. our 1st home was actually half of this and if the repeal. this is actually like luxury really good this is a must sort of bertram for the family but. a lot of like the younger generation because we were born in the post. war our families had flood by the time we were born so none of us really have much regulation of from only our memories there because we've never been. i want to go back on my trip was. acting but that's 3 guys i'm more oh my god i would love more lives in that case i most want to like the people or nation has produced that's what part of it is i
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would leave. it to you know the you. will actually. when you walk that's going to be so even if your strides take a little longer. right you're one of the priorities that i have touring the league is that she is able to walk at least in one show. you're in charge of the joy that moment last season there was a lot of interest unfortunately they couldn't figure out a way to meet that clothing and. let it get to that that maybe only a change i mean it was good but you just buy and you will hopefully get options or since this is winter fall clothes and you know a little bit easier probably to work with the clothes. i think i've.
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lost a lot you know your i love that environment i love that everything's back. to the past and the future together and. not going to like that. i might have been the 1st to be high fashion model i don't know it's just a trend in that state. there's a 1000000 other girls so you kind of have to take the initiative and be led by here
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. to be the limit line or not everybody is here. and. he's been there. i know not only do. i think we have time to reflect you miles. thank. you. and so are you walking like it shows very like to be. like yeah. it really was a mess that was like. a dream in l.a. or dinner i would. have. got way back there like to have our credit card. are excited. oh ok the future of the running.
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so. they narrow that down to miles ok for. some very shrewd. more. we still don't have a show booked and confirmed but we're still here. like one rejection is worse than love there are. just some times when it's stuff that i can't control my height i can grow 6 inches i know that you know. there is no one to look at you know somebody i can reference.
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i would love to see most of my doing more catwalk grand forces. in the industry like ok your i fashion model that's why you wake up and do everything some get to the point of being. there.
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you know and i think. that at. any time i think. i'll. have an. outback ok i'll leave it right. with a. night out.
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here. so i. wake up and i'm. not. angry see what actually i'm backstage here in l.a. i mean this is one of those shows during york fashion week that is quite literally out of this world. when you watch high school they have a skull with 3 to one and.
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that was by far like who long this runaway have ever done in my life. and one side of my brand like ok powerful want to lose that one also it's very important to know exactly where to want to lead one wrong turn you might learn it's about robots. but it's also about ok i have this incredible opportunity to represents my movie so like show people this is the new face i feel like i would be doing a huge disservice to myself and to all the little girls that are looking up to me if i didn't make this the most that i can.
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good morning. good morning welcome everyone my name is denise wallace heitkamp and i'm your state director i promise not to teach you any choreography as. c i know i got it going on but i won't be into them do you. oh the honesty i appreciate that and those people when they feel that little bit of fear they let that serialize but you know. on the other hand. to be here least one student. on the. stronger and better version of your authentic self and you would not want.
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to be here. going to was. i don't. know. what's going to. be very similar and you're going to find a lot of those so-called 8 so my girls to see are. a lot of people never thought to do a pageant and with the job but obviously like you know now they see it nothing's stopping them and it's great. it's like i was. i think i just my all your moment *. are you excited to learn this. marcy it's as far as i know i know i'm not you know i own it everyone or something i mean you know and it looks like i'm quite insane to think that exactly one year ago that the pageant was little. i know.
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yes i gather right last year it was really difficult for. my mom to understand it and it was a big no from my community. and then they saw that i didn't change last minute but. they're off my jacket. so now i see parents like supporting their daughters to go into pageants. but my mom she doesn't agree with. the way i'm never going to say i don't understand where she's coming from because i get it. i've always told my mom like you want me to stop i'll stop. but she's allowed to make this choice for myself. i just can't believe like how much my mom has changed how accepting she's become.
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she's actually like very supportive she's so happy for the other girls. i know it's not easy for her but the fact that she's sitting here with me like it just goes to show like how much she really cares we would like to have especially young lady present this next word she stood on this very stage is a contestant last here she is an example of how the pageant provides a cult usually scratch our stage. thanks. very. much. it's fun to go. a modeling on the other walk.
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with her to. walk a subway. madame a doc and. not a con. but i can get money so well done. i know when i do go back that because of.
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that. i. started and i was like i was born here and. i'll be here like you say i was so excited. and feel welcomed and see. its own shot. if i was back in the refugee camp. i know i would have appreciated someone coming back and just telling me. ok i was a kid here but now i'm doing this. it hasn't been an easy path there star a lot of unknowns and i think that's what that's what told you to. however
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i'm felicity barr here watching out to 0 from london where it's proving to be another momentous day in british politics m.p.'s are right now preparing to vote on a motion against a new deal brax it if that passes and we should know within the next hour the prime minister boris johnson has suggested he he will call a snap general election earlier johnson lost his parliamentary majority after one of his m.p.'s defected to a pro party the prime minister's promise to take the u.k. out of the e.u. by october 31st with or without a deal has divided people across the political spectrum let's take you live now to
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westminster and speak to al-jazeera is jonah hill who's monitoring what's happening in the house of commons right now i'm jonah it's difficult to tell a but do we think that the conservative rebels and the opposition m.p.'s who brought forward this motion to think they're likely to win. well they think they're likely to win it's a numbers game of course it's going to be extremely tight according to sort of informal counts. as to voting intentions such as anyone knows them it does appear that the numbers are in the favor of those conservative bricks it rebels and cross party m.p.'s who brought this motion in the 1st place and in about an hour and a half as you say or less we will know because they will be that vote it is an incredibly important vote that could have a lasting impact on the future direction of this country indeed on the direction of boris johnson's very young government to remind you it is a vote that will seek to turn the business of the house of commons tomorrow over to backbench m.p.'s from the government where it normally resides of course so that
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they can table a piece of legislation it's been written painstakingly concocted over the summer that would seek to block the possibility of a no deal breaks it on october 31st by forcing the prime minister boris johnson to go to the e.u. to ask for yet another delay to break if he hasn't been able to secure a deal by then let me bring in my guest now alex dean is a former advisor to david cameron before he became prime minister alex how do you imagine boris johnson's government will react if as well so let's not say expected but as as likely perhaps he loses this vote it's not guaranteed yet the light of this debate will sit in the labor party we'll see how many labor your skeptics and there are a few side with the government and say they don't want to hand over control to this so-called rebel alliance i still they think that the government will lose tonight
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the big debate will be tomorrow so boris is young government will live to fight another day at least one more day and that will be because they'll be people who vote for the change of agenda that is to say let's take the debate away from government but that doesn't guarantee that i'm going to support you when we. that we're going to demand an extension will be members of the labor party who simply have to vote to take control away from the government but won't vote for the extension so they'll be some switches tomorrow from labor going against the government today and then and not in favor of the e.u. tomorrow that's i'm afraid where the energy this debate lies as to the question of a general election a snap general election if we leave aside the passage the safe passage of this legislation through parliament in next few days for granted that scene doubt has lost his majority he said there are no circumstances in which he'll be forced to go to the e.u. he's made this a confidence issue you see bound now if he loses tonight to call a snap general election or try to the debates almost the other way around for 2
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years the opposition labor party has been calling for a general election and the talk for the last 48 hours has been let's not have one it's a trap actually they've seen the polling like everyone else and it looks like boris would be returned with a bigger majority or a majority or tool if we had a general election but the 2nd thing they've concocted is a concern is if we cool the general election and then we did what people are talking about probing parliament which meets the suspended that's the end of the session could the prime minister then extend the date of the election it goes after the brics it date considered opinion and i've talked to says that's actually not possible but that is the conspiracy theory a rumor that is fueling westminster tonight and it's the excuse for labor saying they might not want an election up to rule or to be fair i in the last couple of hours seems to have come up with a come up with a more sort of sensibly fleshed out labor party position which is to say we will not agree to an election until or unless this legislation makes it through parliament and the reason that matters is that we have a fixed term parliaments act views may know that we used to be able to have an
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election at the whim of the will of the serving prime minister that's no longer the case you have to have a 2 thirds majority in the house of commons to vote to have an election earlier than a fixed term which isn't until 2022 and i know very few people who think we're going to make it the. not long anymore so you need the labor party to vote for that election to have the election come about that may seem perverse in an environment where everyone's been demanding an election the labor might not vote for it but notwithstanding what you tell me who said several labor spokesman have said in fact they don't want to have an election because they fear what the prime minister is up to so actually if we did get to the point where people are demanding election we still don't know what labor would do and indeed let's not lose sight of the fact that an election in and of itself quite likely souls nothing will quite possibly at least and we don't know that they will have any runaway majority for any single party we don't know that there are alliances established between say the conservatives in the british party it's entirely possible you end up with another hung parliament and you've solved nothing we don't know that but we can look at
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polling that gives us a better sense of information and a sense of direction and that polling shows us that there is a split broadly speaking on the right between the tories in the brics the party and what boris will be praying if he did have that election is the split between tories and labor party would be smaller than a split between labor and the liberal democrats labor's position on brecht it's been very unclear the lib dems have been crystal clear whatever you think about it on bricks it they hate it they want it gone and they will benefit from the labor party's indecision so if there was an election it's possible that boris would come back with a slightly increased majority and the n.p.c. got back would include far fewer of the rebels have been causing him trouble these last couple of weeks so i think if he got an election he'd be fancying his chances . of seeing reliever there for the moment let's tootin again in the not too distant future to find out what happens with this vote and we'll take the discussion president indeed i have facts you when things start to happen why is it just messed
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up my thank you. i have been straight process right across the u.k. regarding what is happening in the house of commons and this update from policy. all those protests really goes to show that this is no longer just. the issue of frank said or no deal correct said it is about austerity it is about boris johnson and it is also about the future of britain what you hear a lot here the driving force for getting people out onto the streets is the word democracy they say that the punk suspension of parliament is simply undemocratic one wasn't told me that they believe that boris johnson is simply trashing the democracy will that voice is behind all that very loud down the road there is accounted administration taking place of people who believe the projects it is a good idea it just goes to show that 3 years movie 3 years after the referendum to visit issue is still so divisive. solar panel is a u.k. journalist who's written a biography of boris johnson she says the prime minister has failed to make his
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plans clear and faces the exact same problems his predecessor did. it was interesting today that we've had very straight some very senior political journalists in the u.k. saying well you know everything that we're told by downing street turns out to be untrue and therefore what can we possibly believe from now on so when boris johnson stood up today in poland it was interesting what he was trying to day he was projecting his for us he was using some of the same cadence as winston churchill and of course he wrote a book about winston churchill and when he wrote that book he was sort of comparing himself a bit 1000 times a page to winston churchill but the thing is they are so different churchill was about substance the problem of course just has been all about style and selling as you rightly said just now the problem is what he's saying either don't exist because we still have no idea what these alternative arrangements of the backstop
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right baby and that's you know quite frankly it's very much sounds like they've done 6 a suggest that yes have nothing misleading statements and number 10 you know before all his charm he still comes up against the exact same realities as to reason made it but unfortunately although she got some simply i think we are pains are really pretty much exhausted with sympathy and they too think that boris johnson is duplicitous they too worry that like can't actually trust anything he says imagine this british prime minister thought of by his counterparts abroad as someone who is both untrustworthy and mendacious i don't think we've ever quite you know been sale days was as before and it is a really bad thing for our country the worst one way back from this is if the worst turns in uses those salesman powers even though he's now in a minority government of course to chart a different way through the mess not just to listen to the extremists the ideologues in his party but actually find a genuine compromise whether that is in the end to back the dail or indeed i think
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probably more likely to go for a 2nd my friend and i as someone who used to work with him in brussels i was his day. all those years ago when he was writing all those famous you know. diatribes and yet you know in quiet moments when we were just having coffee or something in the kitchen he would talk quite affectionate lee about the e.u. it's in his d.n.a. after all his father worked for the commission his father was an m.e.p. he went to school in brussels say i've always time to say that he is actually a real break today i remember too he wrote 2 columns before he decided which way to come down one in favor remain one in favor of leave and i suspect if he has any kind of beliefs until they're probably rather more pro than you might suspect. hurrican dorrian is inching away from the bahamas after slamming into the island nation as a category 5 storm officials say they're in the midst of
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a historic tragedy as reports of more deaths and widespread damage emerge the hurrican traveled west from the u.s. virgin islands last wednesday it beyond is on sunday when it traveled slowly north into monday it was upgraded to a category 5 the highest category a storm could be before hitting the abaco island on tuesday go inside over the north of the bahamas for some time still a powerful force is now traveling north parallel to the florida coastline gradually weakening but growing in size and it could bring strong storm surges and hurricane force winds as far north as georgia and the carolinas i got a guess at this report from florida. as hurricane dorian edges away from the bahamas a clearer picture of its devastating power is emerging grand bahama and abaco island were hit hardest with storm surges and powerful winds this is now
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a humanitarian crisis hampered by the storm slow path through the region continued heavy rains and high winds when the true extent of the damage may not be known for days but early reports suggest the rescue and recovery operation will be huge we also understand that about 62000 people across the 2 islands will need access to clean drinking water it's not an unfamiliar thing to say in a disaster but when there's no water after a disaster that can have serious secondary impact so that will be a priority not just for the recross but for the government and for the u.n. system the red cross says at least $13000.00 homes have either been severely damaged or destroyed rebuilding will be a long process and saving those stranded by one of the most powerful store. recorded is a priority no matter the problem the form of the like. you really need. a lot of support after this horrific story and now threatens the u.s.
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east coast where preparations evacuation orders and warnings have been in place for days the storm's predicted path shows no landfall in florida but a cape canaveral nasa is moot sensitive equipment as the storm edges closer georgia and the carolinas remain on high alert and many residents of heeded warnings to prepare for the worst hoping that by being so early with our profer asians they will all be in for it we will leave it to do much of florida's east coast remains under a hurricane watch in there is still a danger of high gusts of wind and storms wells coming in from the atlantic ocean but if the track stays as it is predicted the storm should be about 170 kilometers off the east coast even as it makes its way up to georgia and the carolinas that is potentially good news for millions of people but everyone is being warned not to get complacent. in the next few hours and days much needed resources will pour into the bahamas even for
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a nation used to dealing with powerful hurricanes this is an unprecedented situation to go across a 0 indian river city florida. and the southern california coast guard has suspended its search for survivors following a fire on a commercial dive boat the vessel sank after the blaze broke out before dawn on monday 5 of the crew were rescued most of the people on board were sleeping below deck at night as the crews have now recovered $34.00 bodies the authorities have launched an investigation into what is one of the area's 1st maritime disastrous. un experts of released report saying all parties in the yemen conflict may be involved in war crimes reported q is the saudi u.a.e. coalition of killing civilians with airstrikes and deliberately denying them aid despite them being on the brink of fun then investigators have given a list of suspects to the hume the un what rights chief robert a monthly reports. evidence. indiscriminate
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killings torture old rape and using starvation as a weapon of war these are the findings of a group of united nations experts who investigated the war in yemen. the parties to the conflict in yemen are responsible for an array of human rights violations and violations of international humanitarian law some of these violations are likely to amount to war crimes. it's the 2nd report by a group of eminent experts who say the u.s. britain and france may be complicit in war crimes by arming and providing intelligence to the saudi u.a.e. coalition especially so in yemen says west some bombs a consistently being used by the coalition the problem with this how do the americans and all those who would match them like the united states they ignore the dimension of the warsaw short of talking to run short of probably mitigating the tension between the iranians and the americans the arenas and the saudis i think
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those happening in in yemen is only a proxy for probably a bigger game and why the game but the experts say there are no clean hands when it comes to the involvement of all the warring parties that includes hoti rebels the yemeni government forces supported by saudi arabia and the united arab emirates they have targeted hospitals ports water facilities markets farms and of restricted the delivery of humanitarian aid. the u.n. experts also accuse iran of backing the violence committed by the junta's one of the most devastating airstrikes targeted a wedding party in 2015 killing at least 130 people. and in august last year at least 40 children were killed when a saudi u.a.e. coalition air strike hit the pass inside. the experts are also concerned the war
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has taken another complex turn as the saudi backed government and the u.a.e. back separatists in the south of vying for control of yemen 2nd city aid in part. amongst some as to the way. the un describes the war as the world's worst humanitarian crisis and is calling on all parties the conflict including western countries to be held accountable lure about a man the out is there are at least 14 people have been killed and $24.00 others injured after a bomb exploded under a passenger bus in mali central mopti region a bus hit a landmine while traveling through an area where ethnic militia adar groups carry out regular attacks against civilians. south africa's president cyril ramaphosa has condemned the latest wave of xenophobia johannesburg when 100 people have been arrested since the violence broke out on sunday many foreign owned shops were
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attacked but as haram a task reports local business owners well also talkative. police in south africa try again to stop writing and looting in some poor neighborhoods in and around johannesburg it's been like this since sunday some of the businesses and shops are vandalized belong to foreign nationals this is not the 1st time i have absolute say it has been through this he says his other store in another part of the city was looted last year because if something like this. how can his dragon. make something for my kidneys on my children it's on my parents today libya come from the like not for a clan or whatever. only for. something that begins believe criminal gangs are responsible for the violence. he got a phone call only in the morning that his business was being looted but it was too
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dangerous for him to move now that it's relatively quiet he's come back to assess the damage are still falling people still looting as are all of you with the police presence and all that to say that it's not about. the fighting for in the shops i'm a sort of citizen blois said if you see people that work for me in the shop and they talk it's just to be a capability effect that it could be another running at a loss of i'm without words i don't know what else to say. some say the country's high unemployment rate now nearly a 30 percent white space poverty and inequality are to blame for the violence. in 2008 at least 60 people were killed and more than 50000 forced from their homes when many foreign african nationals were targeted for. years ago at least 7 people were killed some so that ricans feel they are competing with outsiders for scarce stops. human rights groups say anti immigrant comments made by some politicians
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are making things worse they said xenophobic sentiment underlying this about foreigners everything to leave we are a democracy we are a democratic society we cannot allow people to take the law into their own ends there is no country that doesn't have for a measure now the president still has condemned the attacks as in a full week and an acceptable more than 100 people have been arrested for public violence arson and looting but in some areas the police seem overwhelmed making it easy for some people to stay in the street had with us al jazeera journalist. ok we're taking you live now to the house of commons in westminster where for the past couple of hours m.p.'s have been debating about a motion that essentially is against a no deal breck's it. where expecting to see these m.p.'s leave the house of commons leave the chamber and go to vote on that motion against
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a note that we do know that the prime minister says that if that motion is passed he will call a snap general election he's totally opposed to the idea of going back to the european union and asking european union for an extension to that deadline the deadline of course that we will know so well october the 31st let's bring in our correspondent jane hall who's also monitoring what's happening in westminster right now so jenny they've been to basing about this motion to try to legislate against no deal for the past couple of hours. exactly 3 hours to see was the time set aside for this emergency debate under the so 24 measure which will very shortly result in a vote and i think that what's happening as you see the chamber clear there is that m.p.'s are going to vote 1st of all on what's called a closure motion that brings formally this debate to an end and then after that
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they will vote on the motion itself and to remind you the motion he's to decide whether or not to turn the business of the house of commons on wednesday over to backbench m.p.'s. normally of course it resides firmly with the government that would allow if the government loses this vote those backbench m.p.'s across party lines of the middle east including some conservative party rebels to table a piece of legislation painstakingly put together over the summer that would seek to block the possibility of a no deal breaker on october the 31st it would force boris johnson the prime minister to go to the e.u. ask for yet another briggs's delay in terms of the legislation specifically delay until the end of january the numbers we know are going to be extremely tight i'm going to bring in my guest now to help us understand what's going on alex dean is a political strategist who works for david cameron and for the conservative party
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alex. the 1st vote i think is under way now are we likely to see. these 2 votes pretty similar to one another in other words the result of the closure motion would it reflect the result of the actual motion vote i think we're going to have a result either way in about 10 minutes of the me in mind cation is they going to vote very quickly on both which indicates if they are voting on a closing motion i'm not sure that's what they're doing actually they're going to hard to tell i must be honest we haven't i so i think we're going to vote on the substance now and i think that it looks like we're going to result in about 10 minutes the whip's office and the conservative party are suggesting that there will be some 16 rebel. on the conservative side that's a little more than the government would have been fearing that the government hoped for but on the other hand we don't know how many people on the opposition bench will vote with the government there have been as many is 89 labor people who rebelled against their party line in the past and as a couple of independents who vote with the government as well so this really is going to be pretty close but it doesn't look on these numbers like the government
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will lose tonight the big argument that we will then be what happens tomorrow despite that despite the threat from boris johnson that any conservative m.p.'s voting against the government tonight yes would be diesel that could have the weight removed they won't be able to stand again signaling in effect the end of careers it's a pretty brave move for a number of people to it's prey for some of them some of them of course already said that they would stand down so they know that they wouldn't be seeking re-election anyway there is precedent for this that might help rebels when john major had rebels the other way round and there were a euro skeptics are betting against he's government he denied them the whip and eventually some of them were re adopted into the party and some of the people in this very feeble environment will be hoping that if they rebelled against the government today all may be forgotten by the next election they'll still be the m.p. remember they just won't be the tory conservative m.p. they'll be hoping that they'll be able to stand once again as a conservative but you are right some people tonight are deciding that their future
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no longer stands with their party which for all its faults using government right now and that they will no longer be conservatives that'll be a big deal for people elected as conservatives and almost all of them lifelong conservative sunni some would be rebels might bottle it as well because of that threat let's talk about what happens tomorrow because earlier on you were saying well look if the government loses the votes tonight that doesn't necessarily mean that the legislation that these crossed party opposition m.p.'s and conservative party rebels will bring will itself succeed there will be members of the labor party. they want to go back to their electorate back to their constituents and say i voted to deny. control of the house of commons but then i didn't vote to give it over to the e.u. either when the substance came in the debate came i voted to get on with it and i voted for us to leave the e.u. just like you voted remember lots of labor m.p.'s are sitting on large lever voting seats that is to say was there in the labor party which has an official position
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now of having a 2nd referendum in which remain as an option the majority of their constituents voted to leave and many of them are agusta but what the labor party is doing if you're in that position probably the smartest thing to do is vote against boris tonight say you voted against this wicked tory government but then still vote for britain apparently we're seeing and please filing back into the house if you believe this is a vote on the actual motion itself then we'll have the result very quickly indeed let's talk about the other looming possibility now a snap general election boris johnson said if he loses these folk tonight he will table a motion looking for a general election he's already lost his majority today he's made this a confidence vote what happens do you think in terms of a general election he can try to force a general election there's actually no guarantee that he gets one given the nature of the house of commons and affix parliament tact which technically obliges you to
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get a 2 thirds majority in the house for an election before you can have one he could just repeal the fixed parliament act which is an option people are talking about very much but that does exist as a possibility you don't do that with the executive power and you know he'd have to get that as a vote through but you only need a majority of one for that instead of a majority of 2 thirds so he much more likely to succeed on that bear in mind there's a carney suspended member of the conservative party charlie who votes with the government. tends to vote with the government so he could get one through fit with media majority of one he just plainly couldn't win a majority of 2 thirds of labor was against him but let's say he does get a general election people who voted for the bread. the party that european elections. surprisingly had. voted for the. exit and you think. you've got to think support for the. 20 percent in the u.k. for a general election. if we have an election in these circumstances the big question
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is what happens on the left the labor party has been split between its leaves and its remain as many working class. voters disappointed with their policy which is increasing. but the liberal democrats whatever they're all crystal clear they hate it they want to get rid of it and if you. remain then surely election and that's what we would have for the lib dems and. i mean just 5 weeks is a man who seems to be conspiring to push this country. he says he wants a deal and yet the e.u. says not a single stitch of evidence been done to get one he wants to prorogue parliament which seems to curtail other options including negotiations for a deal don't these things do you think have an impact across the land with voters
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and their intentions. to be. angered by this situation. i think the biggest sentiment enough's enough we've had enough of this let's get on with it including many people who voted to remain 3 years ago. but i lost just get on with this. but the other thing i think stands in his favor is the ground. chosen to fight they want to take the parliamentary not just give it to the other. and there were many people in the u.k. who see through that. that you have to have left on the table. that gets them to negotiate seriously. of business views famously. lots of. business deals. you have to be able to walk away and that's what boris is fighting
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for the right to keep on the table. they want to take no deal off the table. business environment that's the wrong thing to do so i think there's lots of people in this country small business to be. very supportive of this prime minister. the day it took office that was such a majority which is now lost an election was absolutely inevitable possibly. strategist number 10 downing street is now in the hands of. a strategist just. always the strategy to push for an election that could be framed a battle between the people and democracy versus parliament and the e.u. by. claiming. deal by making demands of the e.u. that the e.u. can't possibly keep and then break down.

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