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well you're too good for the the north scared of them. miss the police have fired rubber bullets and they say they're trying to quell the tensions here prevent an escalation of violence and this has been going on full a number of days in the past week with have been clashes between foreign nationals and south africans shops have been looted many of the stores here remain closed today concerned the business owners are concerned about continued looting and wiped my tappan. still ahead in al-jazeera how conflict is affecting children we have the latest from new york as the united nations sends a message to world leaders plus. john dominic kang at the new german museum that celebrating 100 years of the bow.
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hello once again right has been reported in southern pakistan but cloud confirms it is a little bit late in the season and the monsoon should be withdrawing but it's techies talking about it how we are going to change the season in europe and beyond europe to the stands this weakness in the sky this line of showers runs from armenia all the way to tajikistan through turkmenistan and that's where you'll see rainfall but south of that you will not see it but you will see that northerly breeze which is slowly bringing the temperatures down not everywhere but terence down to 28 back that to 40 and with the same hint of an overly nice to ned by roots down to about 29 not a huge change mostly but the wind is strengthening and that northerly is blowing down the gulf is not particularly dusty at the moment no has it dropped humidity very much is still on the cusp of being unpleasant in bahrain and qatar as examples but images really high and that's where it should be in salalah with the hollies still blowing probably enhanced again about how we get to choose day which means
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cloud drizzle and greenness ransom. a record breaking high temperature in cape town yesterday by 35 degrees back down to at or below normal now in the sunshine but there is rain further east just touching southern mozambique.
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i want you all to see her a reminder of our top stories this hour the u.s. secretary of state says talks with the taliban are dead for the time being and a special envoy to afghanistan is being recalled taliban representative said the consolation of talks will harm the u.s. more than anyone. the british government's insisting it will exit the european union by oktober the 31st despite multiple setbacks in parliament and the resignation of a senior cabinet minister meanwhile france says it doesn't want another brags that delay and the u.k. needs to show the way forward. but he's in south africa fired stun grenades and rubber bullets to break up crowds in the streets of johannesburg trying to stop the
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anti immigrant riots that have left at least 5 people that. a day of protest that started peacefully in central hong kong has ended in more chaos demonstrators said barricades on fire blocked major roads and vandalized a metro station that thousands marched peacefully to the u.s. consulate the calling on congress to pass human rights legislation allowing sanctions to be imposed on hong kong leaders video gopalan send this update from hong kong. this is one of hong kong's main shopping districts usually a very busy place on a sunday night and as you can see it's been brought to a standstill with white police over you're blocking the road they chased the protesters here from the financial district and tried to disperse them using tear gas among the shoppers and the crowds on a sunday night don long ago we saw people running with. small children without any protection away from the tear gas so he said not just protesters here confronting
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the police what we're seeing is regular shoppers and regular people trying to confront the police off them why they're using such excessive force when there are people who have nothing to do with the protests now this has been a constant refrain and this has been the next step in the protests that we are seeing where people want police accountability for their actions this is in stark contrast to the protests we saw earlier today when thousands of people marched to the u.s. embassy calling on the u.s. to push through a bill that would give them greater powers to safeguard on concertina me. well as i mentioned before the protesters and now sending out an international appeal for help in their efforts made to brown has more on that part of the story was these protesters want global attention their target on sunday the united states. to china's leaders this will fuel their suspicions that foreign powers
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a behind the 3 and a half months of unrest in hong kong the protest his message is for the u.s. congress and the act they want passed that would lead to close a scrutiny of human rights in hong kong and u.s. sanctions against hong kong leaders he wants to u.s. congress to pas that hong kong human rights and democracy as as chance was about these people be so important for us because you can selectively punish those official who's who trample on our freedom. riot police blocked the road in front of the consulate and were braced for trouble. as in previous demonstrations these marchers represented a broad cross section of hong kong society on tuesday hong kong will be under the international spotlight once more when the united nations human rights council meets in geneva with china's representative expected to defend the hong kong police's handling of the current turmoil. sunday's protest comes 5 days after the
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chief executive kerry lamb announced she would officially withdraw the controversial extradition bill that set off the unrest there was further trouble on sunday night when police and protesters clashed in a main subway station parts of which were vandalized adrian brown al jazeera homegrown. iran says the oil from its tanker that was released by gibraltar 3 and a half weeks ago has been sold iranian state television said the $130000000.00 worth of oil has gone to its destination the united states says this satellite image proves that the destination was syria iran had promised that the. earlier one supertanker formally the grace one wouldn't sail to syria the syrian government has condemned to join to us turkish patrols in northwest syria as a flagrant violation of its sovereignty armed vehicles cross the turkish border on
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sunday into an area that used to be controlled by u.s. backed kurdish forces the u.s. and turkey want to establish a safe zone in the area job market on is a middle east analyst said the arab center in washington d.c. he says there could be a risk of confrontation on both sides. the u.s. trying to mediate 2 rivals 2 enemies across the border is hoping that he's his meeting with trump and a few weeks at the u.n. can help solve some of the issues he's he's pushing which have a longer saves or if people around 3040 kilometers the u.s. offering only 5 at this point and also who controlled the area turkish sites wanted to be on the turkish troops call troll the u.s. prefer rather to have american troops french and british to have more 3rd party control so those issues are still pending between both sides but at the end of the days just to manage a very complex relations not a long term solution it's not
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a way forward to have stability in the country or in the northern part of syria there's always a risk because there's still be dishing between both sides are still in a and b. to somehow this all with this risk but now there is this a gauge and. the kurdish. forces decided to pull back a little bit especially their heavy weapons their main minister millet and they backed away from this area in the past few days to pave the way for this live to start but that the other day you had the men bish. mother for example where they miss to see a lot of. tissue between both sides so now the stakes are higher because especially the u.s. they want at some point to be able to be with their forces from this area but now they became more involved in managing those 2 but there is always there but i think for now it's i don't see any risk of confrontation but we have to watch the coming weeks what would happen. thousands of islanders in the bahamas are abandoning their
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homes destroyed by holic and dorian one of the strongest storms ever recorded there is known to have killed 43 people that total is likely to climb significantly as recovery crews reach more remote devastated islands my old apollo reports from freeport the main city on grand bahama island. floodwaters have finally receded on the island of grand bahama. for residents of this part of the country this means coming to terms with the devastation left over from hurricane dorian on the eastern end of the island more than 80 percent of homes were destroyed. this high school near free ports tourist district has been transformed into a shelter for the displaced many here have lost everything to the hurricane even their loved ones so i lost my home as well and. he decided to stay back phone. from what i have say and heard everything is like
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completely gone so. you know this is you guys you know. calling and i you know know any player they have but. about 80 people are staying at this shelter freeport remains without electricity and the heat is almost unbearable but there is food and water and doctors on site to provide medical attention to anyone who needs it by i really thank god for life right now and i thank god for the u.s. coast god sent participated you guys and i you know bringing us food and clothes and water and stuff. search operations continue for hundreds of people still missing but the destruction from the storm is so widespread that even with the assistance of the united states coast guard and border patrol there are still places in the country that rescue teams have yet to reach one of the biggest
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challenges in delivering disaster relief to survivors of hurricane dorian has been limited access to the areas worst hit by the storm only up until a few days ago this airplane for example along with freeport airport were sitting under at least 2 meters of flood waters. it's been several days since the storm passed many of the people we've met seem to still be in shock but nonetheless grateful to be alive. when it was not below. freeport bahamas. one of the strongest typhoon to hit the korean peninsula in decades has killed people on both sides of the border typhoon ling-ling killed 5 people in north korea and destroyed homes and crops the north's leader kim jong un reportedly scolded officials for being helpless and unaware of saturday's storm south of the border 3 people were killed many have been left without electricity sudan's 1st cabinet since the ousting of former president omar al bashir has been sworn in 18 ministers from the
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list named by prime minister. earlier this week off formally in charge the other 2 were not sworn in because of a dispute the cabinet has 4 women including sudan's 1st female foreign minister will stay in office until elections are held within 3 years sunday worship as in zimbabwe have prayed for robert mugabe in the church he used to attend the former president died in singapore on friday where he was receiving medical treatment a 95 year old is seen by many as a heroic freedom fighter who ended colonial rule critics regard him as a dictator who ordered death squads rigged elections and shattered the economy until his overthrow 2 years ago. to new york where thousands of school backpacks are being laid outside the united nations after the worst year on record for children caught up in armed conflict the u.n. says 281-2000 children killed or maimed that's the highest number since they began
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monitoring the new exhibition is a message to the world leaders calling for greater protection of children living in war zones diplomatic editor james bays has more from outside the united nations in new york. it is a haunting image here in the garden of u.n. headquarters you can see that the u.n. children's agency unicef of laid out backpacks blue u.n. colored backpacks they look like a graveyard they're meant to look like a graveyard because each of these backpacks represents a child who died in a conflict zone in 2018 there are 3758 backpacks and these are only the confirmed deaths they believe the real number is many more more than 12000 children were killed and maimed in 2018 frankly. it's a haunting statistic 3758 children died as a result of conflict last year that's the highest number since we've been recording
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numbers where most of those deaths. they're spread out but afghanistan somalia syria and yemen are the worst places to be chopped children caught up in the conflict situation this art installation by unicef has been deliberately timed in just 2 weeks time leaders from all around the world will be here at u.n. headquarters for the u.n. general assembly and they're hoping the children in conflict zones will be a top issue when they meet. it's been the 1st day of school in jordan but classrooms are empty because of a teachers' strike which is affecting the whole country thousands of stuff have taken part in a sit in in the capital amman. they say they won't return to classes until they get at least a 50 percent pay rise organizers say the government has yet to deliver on the increase which was agreed in 2014. the centenary of an eye catching architectural
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movement is being celebrated in germany bauhaus inspired modern art futuristic furniture and even glass palaces and there's dominic reports from death so a new museum has opened in the city where it all began. mentioned by our house here and immediately people think of places like this and the movement whose freethinking revolutionized architecture certainly that's true in at the new museum housed within what's called the black box which itself is envelop by glass something people here hope will wow all who see it i wanted to be surprised after they crossed with laughter i thought with their quality of the whole point of space and also to be contracted when they enter in the black box and then they go to rethink you made world of bow out of a laugh and one of the defining aspects of the powerhouse is that for many people it has many different definitions from its inception in the world of architecture
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through modern art to furniture design and all of it encapsulates the freedom of expression as this concept enters its 2nd 100 years here the 1st 100 exhibits that were shown in the 1st bauhaus are preserved offering us a window on an era when the founder of the school. encouraged his students to abandon old teaching styles and to embrace the new dog is one of the curators here she says part of the museum's task is to show bauhaus was a living breathing entity and not just something that can be treated as a piece of history there are the famous names and there are the famous. conic objects but they also there's also very rich production off the students you who are maybe less known but who where the center of the balance in the south when the movement began germany was emerging from the ruins of the 1st world war and
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beginning life as a democracy now its latest democratically elected leader has come to pay homage to look younger not even 100 years after its founding it was still feel today the fascination of the project has ideas because architecture was art and design influenced us today in the way we build in the way we live in and shape our world for generations of architects and artists baal halls has been a watchword for cutting edge design now true to form it's hoped this new museum will show that to its best effect dominant campaign al-jazeera decile. this is all just silly things at the top stories the u.s. secretary of state says talks with the taliban are dead for the time being and the special envoy to afghanistan is being recalled taliban representatives say the
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cancellation of the talks will harm the u.s. more than anyone and it was the case that when the taleban tried to gain negotiating advantage by conducting terror attacks inside of the country president from made the right decision to say that's not going to work we're going to walk away from a deal if others try to use violence to achieve better ends in a go it's not right it's not appropriate killed american and it made no sense for the taliban to be rewarded for that kind of bad behavior. the british government is insisting it will exit the european union by a top of the 31st despite multiple setbacks in parliament and the resignation of a senior cabinet minister meanwhile fund says it doesn't want another brags that delay and the u.k. needs to show the way forward police in south africa have fired stun grenades and rubber bullets to break up crowds on the streets of johannesburg one person has died and 5 others have been injured but he said the situation is now under control
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officers have been trying to stop immigrants riots nigeria's government is offering to fly back its citizens a day of protests that started peacefully in central hong kong has ended in more chaos demonstrators set barricades on fire blocked major roads and vandalized a metro station earlier thousands marched to the u.s. consulate there calling on congress to pass a human rights legislation allowing sanctions to be imposed. the syrian government has condemned to join 2 u.s. turkish patrols in northwest syria as a flagrant violation of its sovereignty vehicles cross the turkish border on sunday into an area that used to be controlled by u.s. backed kurdish forces the u.s. and turkey want to establish a safe zone in the area. iran says the oil from its tanker that was released by gibraltar 3 and a half weeks ago has been sold iranian state television said the $113000000.00 worth of oil has gone to its destination the united states says this satellite
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image proves that the destination was syria iran had promised that the adrian one supertanker form of the grace one wouldn't sail to syria coming up next on al-jazeera to its inside story. how's the peace process in afghanistan collapsed in a tweet the u.s. president pulls off talks with taliban leader did donald trump take twitter diplomacy to find that reasons behind the decision this is the inside story.
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and welcome to the program i am hashem. talks to the war in afghanistan appear to be making progress the taliban and the u.s. came up with a draft deal nearly a year of discussions in qatar and they're back as chief negotiator sounded up to mystic when he revealed that detail so the afghan president last week but now a breakdown in a suite the u.s. president canceled a secret meeting with taliban leaders and the afghan president at camp david donald trump blamed the taliban car bombing that killed an american soldier and 11 other people in kabul on thursday he doubted the group wanted to negotiate a meaningful agreement by the taliban warned the u.s. that americans with suffer more than anyone else for canceling the talks tony berkeley is in kabul for us. privately i think the afghan government is pleased
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that these talks are being canceled but officially they are thanking the americans for their efforts in these peace negotiations and they have stressed that the only way to getting and meaningful peace in afghanistan is through nonviolence they want the taliban to stop fighting they want to ceasefire something that has never been agreed between the americans and the taliban and they want to hold direct talks with the taliban this is something the taliban has always refused they call the afghan government a puppet of the americans and they refused to talk to them of course with this draft peace agreement if it was signed it would then lead to direct talks in some form with the afghan government but there are concerns now the afghan government wants an end to the what the fighting it wants then meaningful talks to go ahead and the big question is where does this now leave us the taliban we understand are having high level meetings of their own they can go 2 ways they can either say yes hang on the americans are serious let's go back to the negotiating table with
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something more to offer because so far they could see did very little or it can lead to an escalation of the conflict everyone here has been concerned at the pace of these peace negotiations it had 9 meetings in a year quite an achievement getting them around the table in the 1st place but the americans have being expecting too little from the taliban that's the overriding opinion so they want more from the taliban before we will get a meaningful peace but there is still here now an edge to this city people are concerned that the attacks which have increased in the recent days and weeks may increase even further. it's unclear whether the u.s. taliban talks are permanently over or just this moment but here's a look at how they began the group peter lee refused to hold direct negotiations with the afghan government its views are stuff that on his administration as illegitimate taliban leaders insist of the negotiating with the u.s. instead those talks began in qatar last october after 9 round of meetings the 2
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sides struck a draft peace deal that could lead to the withdrawal of 5000 u.s. troops in return the taliban must go and it won't use afghanistan as a base for attacks on other countries. let's bring in our guests moshtarak a haim is a founding member of the afghan think tank afghanistan affairs unit and worked on the afghan peace process in london hamid hacky me a research associate at chatham house and former international policy advisor to the afghan ministry of foreign affairs and in alexandria virginia in the u.s. john you watch syria expert in afghanistan of the united states institute of peace welcome to your wish how significant was that tweet about trump who was willing to meet with other and with us the afghani at camp david.
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significant given because apparently everything was seemingly sorted out between the polygon and. when he came to kabul he even showed a copy of the peace agreement that was about to be signed between the sides and then president of money was all prepared to fly out to the united states so this these the seabees of the tweets that came last night i think it tests court absolute hard at least for the time being with the ongoing peace process and there has been significant level of mistrust now created between the palestine and the americans which was garnered generated by. the course of the last 12 months in 9 rounds of peace negotiations with the parliament. hakimi i mean we knew that the taliban and the americans what about to finalize
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a breakthrough deal but i mean to see trump shaking hands with more love rather talking to us in a funny than announcing that deal this must have been a bombshell revelation that could send shock waves across the political establishment in afghanistan absolutely the optics would have been entirely something out of a movie you could say but but but yeah absolutely that there is significantly you know a significant elements within afghanistan who disagree with the way the talks with the taliban are going not necessarily with the fact that there is a process of negotiations of the taliban but the fact that the taliban have remained consistent in their messaging that this is a negotiation to end what they call the foreign occupation so they have been on message whereas. part of their speaking to i.e. the united states seems to have come round to the idea of talking to the taliban so
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that the optics have always played in the last sort of 11 months 12 months in the favor of the taliban per se especially to their constituency and absolutely having a summit in camp david which is a venue reserved for what leaders for global. significant globally significant events this would have legitimized the taliban i think also to the extent that some people in afghanistan particularly the political elite who don't like the taliban would have not like to see. johnny is this an official american recognition of the taliban as the one so called the final shots in afghanistan and therefore the americans recognize the need to do business with them from now or worse no i think there is absolutely not an official recognition of the taliban by any means and i don't think anyone within the u.s. government would support that i think there is a strong belief that the only positive outcome to this war in afghanistan is
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a peace process and that the way to get one started is an agreement with the taliban that involves drawing down troops conditionally and over the last year there's been an enormous amount of effort put into broadly support across the american government. that's crucial this obviously is a major major moment probably setback to the effort but regardless of where it goes and who is willing to talk to the tower and i don't perceive any sense that they recognize the taliban as a legitimate government or anything else that's how they view the afghan government we're stuck what's next do you think that this is something that was going to be permanently disposed or do you see the potential for there americans and the taliban to sit together a do go away out. well to the left frankly speaking all sides engaged in the afghan conflict have been facing the brunt of the ongoing conflict which is
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faced with an absolute stalemate since 2014 and that was the sole reason that all parties the garda so your position were prepared to engage in negotiation process i don't see this series of tweets detailing the whole process are putting a full stop to it definitely this has there is mistrust created between the 2 sides . 3 the taleban have lost a bit of ground in regard to trusting the american government as they also say this in the statement that came out today but definitely i'm seeing that they're going back to the negotiation table but it's going to be another gruesome and long way before the can reach an agreement because trust is often essence in any peace process and i think that was built by zell my follies
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after mactech keyless engagement with the taleban in 9 rounds of. negotiations in the meantime he had conceded the avalon government as far as the taleban were concerned in the peace process and he went to the extent where he did not even handle the copy of the peace agreement and rather merely be sure to. have one president we saw that there were statements from the avalon national security advisor in the united states argued in the course of these 9 rounds where he said that they don't trust them my colleagues that then he was strong which was that which is a living and we want it i don't know we'll why the op suck because they have been completely fine lined during the 9 months of negotiations how meat let's talk a little bit about that draft agreement when you're. of the continent is gives you the impression that the americans in exchange for
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a sense of guarantee of security and stability in afghanistan from the taliban they were willing to give them an absolutely huge political sway in the country. i mean depends how you look at the draft and who you are when you look at the draft certainly from any angle that you look at that particular document it can look at it can look as a as a document been put together to give the taliban the legitimacy of they've always wanted they have always a well argued since 2000 only to thousands when they started to fight against the u.s. presence in afghanistan that they wanted a negotiation directly with the united states that they did not recognize the afghan government as a legitimate entity that it was one that was put in place by the by the united states so that draft agreement there were there were tacit. sort of confirmations of those assumptions the taliban have had and have been promoting to their
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constituency for all these years and this is why exactly there was such a huge amount of reservation what then certain afghan. political elite circles not not least within the afghan government itself under president as ani. that they did not like the document they were dead immediately explain that they had reservations about certain elements of it and i think also for the for the broader public we should not forget that afghanistan has been urbanized since 2001 to a greater extent there's a huge number of people that live in the cities and that cities have been broadly facing the brunt of the taliban attacks where in the rural areas the taliban have been attacked consistently by the nato led and then you know the last few years by the afghan security services so in the cities the perception of a peace deal with the taliban and how it's received is entirely different to how it might be viewed and ok perceived in the rural areas although afghans as a total they do want an end to violence but i think that particular draft looked like it was giving the taliban upper hand and the taliban could actually sell it as
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a as a product that shows that they have actually succeeded that they've beaten the world's heaviest superpower and all those kinds of things you can create a narrative in your favor from johnny b. some. american diplomats cautioned against the deal of particular when it comes to the we draw prior to any comprehensive settlement with the taliban saying that it could be catastrophic leading to further an alkie in afghanistan isn't this a realisation of the the pleas from those expose that the americans are giving too much to the taliban in exchange for permanent deal well i think the most important part of that the deal as it's been structured has often been missed in the public discussion and there's a perception that in this deal the u.s. troops would leave no matter what the taliban does and that perhaps what some taliban hope is true and certainly what many in afghanistan fear is true i really don't think it is true this is that has been fairly clear many times his phrase is
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nothing is agreed until everything is agreed and the concept is that this deal lays out a conditional draw the other potential drop down and the timetable on which would happen but there's a huge difference between agreeing on that timetable and actually removing troops and so i would strongly agree with those diplomats who wrote the letter you're referring to that the actual departure of u.s. troops needs to be pinned to milestones in the peace process because what's important is to actually get to a cease fire and political settlement that brings peace to the country without that a drawdown could be a disaster but i really think this deal has been mischaracterized as leaving regardless of what happened. well anyway we do understand wish that part of the provisions of the deal are kept secret for the time being because it's not set in stone but however let's try and read into the possibilities and scenarios once
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there is a deal what becomes of the taliban what kind of role do you think they would accept to play in the afghanistan in the future if it is not the lead role in the country . well besides it has been a hide and seek sort of game between the taliban and the americans none of them have been coming clear in terms of their position i can remind you some of the taliban leaders previously after grounds of talks talked about resolving the avalon aadmi overhauling the hope of doing the constitution but then they went back and said well we don't mean that and we will continue with the current system so there was no clear stance from there and that was something that was that put the avalon people in a state of bother about their future right now the taliban have been looking forward to taking a whole of the pie as earlier was said that they wanted to claim a victory against the american establishment of the busy regime of the late
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ninety's back however the also understand the ground ground realities that afghanistan has progress toward the last 2 big it significantly and it might be difficult to go back to that hardcore taliban system but of course they were looking forward to taking go the whole government and coming as. at the ied. as a group leading the country whereas the afghan government has been pushing for elections and and offering that participation and integration in the national political system so not that i see a point that we go into. hakimi now if you look at the latest developments on the ground i mean the taliban control something like 50 percent of the terrorists or enough god has done they can launch attacks at the very heart of kabul i mean it's a clear indication that the americans do understand that for them to move forward
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in the future they need to have the taliban on board as likely as a key player to ensure stability i think i would caution as a research about those statistics i just read. on my own just look at the new little guy not the i don't i thought and i don't you know lose the on the on out of the sense i don't doubt. i don't doubt that what you just said the authenticity of it but the way to interpret that perhaps is important to look at whether the taliban really control do they disrupt and i'm not in any way in favor of my status or in favor of the government or the taliban i'm just giving you an analytical view on this afghanistan has population centers they have urban centers of districts and terms of clear cut districts you have on i think you have about under a 60 degree districts that are clearly under the control of the taliban over $200.00 of those districts are under the control of the government and the
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remainder is a contested area but also there is a population center argument so that when you look at these districts on the part that the geography of the country there is a distribution of population so the majority of the country's population live in areas which are claimed by the afghan government to be under their rule but it's absolutely true in security it's extremely extremely disheartening i mean even for all of us when we go to kabul for afghans themselves when they travel out of the capital city certain times of the day in the evening is difficult to go out of the precincts of the city is just a lot of insecurity so there is of course this this disruption this kind of stalemate which was mentioned by much talk earlier but i think it certainly doesn't mean that the taliban have demonstrated that they can hold cities and they can hold territory that's a completely different debate that we haven't experienced you point the big cities the big service provision and all of these things are still done with the direct support of the international donors and delivered you know either back well or
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badly by the afghan government so they are of the taliban as far as they're concerned have not demonstrated a record of governing and the last. several years except for being an extremely effective and surgeon see group that they can disrupt they can mobilize attacks in the heart of the cities across afghanistan including in kabul at absolutely miraculous amounts of time that they could have done it mr walsh what is the most. likely scenario so the deal a power sharing agreement between the government of us a little on the along with the leadership of the taliban or do you see the taliban having of having you know way or another the upper hand well i think that the problem is that no side is likely to win a military victory really at any point and so the whole premise of why the peace agreement is so important is that you could plausibly get to a scenario where no party gets all of the pie but all of them get enough of the pie to feel like it's a reasonable deal and a better alternative than just fighting indefinitely and it has been fighting
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indefinitely so far so i think i worked on this diplomat for many years i've experienced some other very difficult moments where there was a near mess and then something like this happened and the talks the next days are really really crucial and there's a limited window to save what what in the big picture is a huge moment of opportunity that i don't think is come before where the whole world is focused on this peace process all of the relevant countries i think are supportive of this peace process working out the parties were ready to talk to each other and to at least explore some kind of reasonable way forward that ok i would have to overhaul the current system so the next few days are truly proof i say you're going to keep this i mean a larger breakdown what happens next if the talks collapse. ok 1st of all i would like to just say that i recall mr hockey reis position on the
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percentages that you mentioned secondly on the future course of action there is no way out but negotiation settlement the military carcass does almost impossible for all sides and the talks should not and i believe would not collapse the only thing is that timeframe back was in massaged. sealing the deal will lapse further we will have more rounds of negotiations but definitely a new position have to continue i don't waste the while and still reached a level which might not be a north side will be able to contain and being out of control ferial the only really out is the negotiator said i'll have to go to the hakimi missile hakimi we sometimes we just tend to think about the americans with used leverage in afghanistan but there are other countries with huge interest the iranians the russians the pakistanis the indians regional players in this part of the well the qataris the south is the emirate is how does the or geo political dynamic play out
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. i mean it has. it has obviously a very important and significant role because of the geographical location of honest on because of how the afghan government at least in the last decade or so has been reconnected to some extent to the new realities and in the region. those players all of these countries they have a lot of leverage in the country they have their particular clientele relationship but segments of the elites in afghanistan and certain segments of the territory could be more vulnerable to their influence as directly as well so there are parts of the country that has border with pakistan huge significant parts of the country that also parts of it with with iran and all of those realities are important but in no way i would say that any of those relationships with afghanistan or with the war in afghanistan is as significant as the role of the
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united states because the united states let's not forget is the biggest donor of the afghan government it has been its remained so it has been the biggest donor to the military expenditure and it has been at the forefront of supporting the afghan security forces fighting the taliban with the drone operations and all of this so of course all of these regional equiv rims are important but the americans central remains and i'm just so very long for error on the early. if i can make a quick clip quick very easily please very briefly. yeah i just wanted to say i just wanted to say that what regards to what happens the day after the peace deal what with all due respect i think nobody really knows even the taliban have not had had the opportunity to to i think think about this in the i'm going to lead certainly don't know what happens the following day and because we don't know what happens after the deal is signed this deal with the united states and the between the us and the taliban or even the final agreement you know there is not
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a lot of anticipation about the clarity of how american would look like the day after a peace deal and hence you have all this hesitation and all kinds of uncertainties on the ground johnny less than a minute because if you don't mind until before the tweets the those talks were not really topping the agenda in the news media now let's assume that trump manages to bring them back together the taliban and a sort of army and finalize a deal how significant for him this is going to be. i mean that would be very significant a big part of president trump's political argument is that he's good at making deals deals in afghanistan and elsewhere are often very difficult and so if you were to help accomplish a breakthrough like that it would be hugely significant i'd also just said quickly to mr king these points that right now all of those conflicted regional states are quite alive and behind wanting this process to work and that is rare given the diversity of interests. if this process breaks down more largely i don't think that
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unity will continue i suspect all 3 of us would agree on that and the international actors russia china pakistan the u.s. will all have incentives to back different actions to back different parts of the afghan war and that can lead anywhere good so it further illustrates the need to make this diplomatic push work because right now all the political incentives are aligned behind it and to lose this moment of it would be a tragic well it's very interesting to see how this is going to further unformed bought until then i really appreciate your time and contribution johnny watch how meat hakimi and. thank you too for watching you can see the program again and it's on by visiting the website. for further discussion go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter al hunt is a jane syslog for me about on the whole team here in doha by phone
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president from made the right decision to say that's not going to work. the u.s. secretary of state says peace talks with the taliban are dead for now after donald trump counseled a secret meeting at camp david. far as a train station. and key roads blocked in central hong kong after all march on the u.s. consulate gives way to chaos. in london with the top stories from europe including. popularity. after russia had. the message for world leaders outside u.n. headquarters on the number of children killed or maimed in conflict. and harding with sports australia have remained it retained the ashes after beating england in the 4th test and ferrari win their home i talian brown creek for the 1st time in almost a decade. u.s.
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president donald trump says he's canceled a secret meeting with the taliban in the united states leaders were supposed to fly to camp david on saturday night u.s. secretary of state my pump a 0 says talks with the taliban are now dead for the time being and the special envoy is being recalled meetings between him and the taliban have been ongoing in qatar for nearly a year and it was the case that when the taliban tried to gain negotiating advantage by conducting terror attacks inside of the country president from made the right decision to say that's not going to work we're going to walk away from a deal if others try to use violence to achieve better and senate negotiators it's not right it's not appropriate killed american and it made no sense for the taliban to be rewarded for that kind of bad behavior when the taliban released a statement in response saying americans will suffer more than anyone else because
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of trump's decision to cancel the talks while the office of afghan president says peace will only be possible if the taliban stop launching attacks and hold direct talks with the government. we expected an outcome that could lead us to a cease fire that could lead us to a direct negotiation with the afghan government and the taliban so unfortunately so that's that we didn't see. our current terry we saw and we are observed that there could be rests to any process that the afghan government is not the main stakeholder and that and any process that cannot guarantee a cease fire a halt to the violence could be arm for for all of that humans that we've gained there rob ronald's has more from washington d.c. . talks between the u.s. and the taliban are dead at least for the time being following donald trump surprise cancellation of
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a secret summit with taliban leaders at the president's retreat at camp david we made real progress and then the taliban failed to live up to a series of commitments that they had made when that happened president trump said i'm not going to take that deal i'm not going to work with someone that can't deliver on their commitments pump a also said the u.s. special envoy for afghanistan is being recalled and he warned that things are about to get worse for the taliban after fighters took responsibility for a suicide bomb attack that killed 12 people in kabul last week including a u.s. soldier trumps national security adviser john bolton and republican party politicians have been dubious about the nearly year long negotiations hosted by cantars saying taliban leaders are not to be trusted it doesn't seem to get better but i'm sure it will get worse if we leave frankly i think backing away from where we were just dealing with the taliban is the right thing to do leaving troops there for right now is the right thing to do democrats criticized drops negotiating style
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saying he doesn't take advice from experts that our president isn't listening to his generals to his diplomats to the intelligence community frankly that's largely why general mattis for whom i have huge respect resigned in protest was our president's tendency to make a brought decisions without knowing the context or the region and without relying on the advice of the skill diplomats and generals we have trump has promised to withdraw around $14000.00 u.s. troops based in afghanistan failure to fulfill that pledge could have adverse political consequences in the presidential election a little over a year from now whether the talks are truly dead remains to be seen pompei own noted that trump has employed similar tactics before only to resume negotiations later he walked away and annoy. from north koreans when they wouldn't do a deal that made sense for america he'll do that with the iranians when the chinese moved away from the trade agreement with the talks on hold the longest war in us
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history will continue to drag on approximately 2400 u.s. service members have died in afghanistan since 2001 and more than 100000 afghan civilians soldiers and fighters have lost their lives robert oulds al jazeera washington. marvin weinbaum is a former afghanistan and pakistan analyst at the state department and a scholar at the middle east institute he's joining us on skype from washington d.c. thank you very much indeed for your time as well was mentioning these talks have been going on for a year there have been taliban attacks during that time it seems as though there was something significant in the pipeline because there was this meeting that was planned for camp david to do you think that the president was proportionate in his response to this latest attack. well i don't believe that this attack really is what has triggered his decision i think it's the accumulation as your previous
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report indicated of criticism of this as simply embarrassment deal for the united states and certainly for our afghan partners this sense here is that much of what we really need there particularly in the way of residual intelligence and special operations units are now do we need as well a much more comprehensive cease fire and very importantly to see progress toilette the creation of a new government in interest and negotiations well they haven't even begun so committing ourselves to this kind of timeline of departure just seemed to a lot of people pretty good too immature or and yet also that there
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is a real danger here. that the united states will have affectively left our allies very vulnerable at this point let me end though that i think that the chances are there to be renewed negotiations should not be ruled out at all the taleban actually would like to see further negotiations because they have done a normal sleep well and getting diplomatic recognition for their movement from this they've also been able to. they believe to marry together been military and diplomatic approaches sierra and to put themselves on a plan toward the creation of an emirate the united states as has often been pointed out here now in the united states there is an enormous for teach here over the war has been building and also the president has made such as they are
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a real matter of the fact that he'd like to see american troops out before the election so i think that those forces together are going to it least lead to a tentative approach from both sides to see if they can't get it restarted but the united states certainly at this point and this listen recent development said it demonstrated this is going to have to see something in the way of a improvement on the terms of the agreement the taleban i should mention the same time are also constrained they've got to satisfy their commanders that they're not trading away these many years of military action or for simply a position fine positions in a in a price rough going to the government or in any government which retains the
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present political system. given everything that you've said and i appreciate what day what you're saying about the the constraints that there are on the taliban negotiators as well as the expectations of the u.s. and its allies what can be done to encourage the taliban to reshape their position to be become more appealing if you like in a deal to the u.s. and the afghan government we have to recognize the taliban are very confident of their storage they have never been more confident they see themselves as having made considerable progress on the ground but they also as i mentioned they also see themselves now as being viewed as legitimate actives on the world stage as as an alternative perhaps even to the current government so it's going to be
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difficult for them to make too much in the way of a compromise but are they may very well and soften their position particularly on a cease fire and on a willingness here to our form some kind to oust arrangement with meet with the afghans that would be able to give them a sense give a sense here that are this will not lead to an emirate it's going to be very difficult oh for them to do so because as we say we agree there are constraints on . marvin weinbaum we really appreciate your analysis of the situation thank you for joining us on al-jazeera i put it. day of protests that started peacefully in central hong kong has ended in more chaos that misstates has set barricades on fire blocked major roads and vandalized a metro station that earlier thousands marched peacefully to the u.s.
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consulate there calling on congress to pass human rights legislation allowing sanctions to be imposed on hong kong leaders that have gopalan has this updates from hong kong. this is one of hong kong's main shopping districts usually a very busy place on a sunday night and as you can see it's been brought to a standstill with white police over you're blocking the roads they chased the protesters here from the financial district and tried to disperse them using tear gas among the shoppers and the crowds on a sunday night long long ago we saw people running with small children without any protection away from the tear gas so he said now up to us protesters here confronting the police will be are seeing as regular shoppers and regular people trying to confront the police off them why they're using such excessive force when there are people who have nothing to do with the protests this has been a constant or feign and this has been the next step in the protests that we are
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seeing where people want police accountability for their actions this is in stark contrast to.

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