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and they needed me to translate and maybe force them then their marriage it's just the whole firefight. on that particular morning different entities had. information that all seemed to be pointing to the same place a suspected bomb building. so. the multi-functional team went out. with. this compound was sort of isolated. as right outside the door beside it like a shower stall. they told me to stand there to kind of make sure nobody comes through. to the afghan nationals agree that they're going to walk in the door and they're going to learn to talk these council well as soon as they step through the entrance of the door
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they were cut down by such ballance of action. then what i've described as a play on dodgeball with hand grenades hand grenades just came flying over the wall . one of the 2 days preceding a. night and there was a throne inside the house. and something just exploded beside it. i got tossed i don't know 2 or 3 metres back. i got up and that's been the last my left eye and my right eye was pretty badly damaged. in the helicopters and airplanes started me. just waiting to be.
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3500 pound bombs dead center of that compound. gradually the guys started treating this as. a thing this became quiet we moved down a little closer so we had a little bit quicker reaction time that they needed us guys start hearing breaking news that they were streaming and showing and stuff and i got scared just thinking what should they do which they didn't know what to do. so i was just going to is going to maybe just scare them away. and i just remember being. dumbstruck that there was somebody alive and that after all that bombing after all the war that's that we dropped in there somebody was still alive and.
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one was shot and killed immediately. after throwing the hand grenade. then i think in our turn the corner or was shooting at the 4th i think and split when they went in and. so he threw a hand grenade. i probably shouldn't even talk about it nobody claims to have seen me through the aid. and this soldier has you know i testified that i was under that debris and they couldn't have seen me so i always hold to the hope that you know i mean my memories were not truth. i reach down the move debris there's dead bodies land there.
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the body on top and gaping holes in the chest. and you can see down into the chest cavity. is that all of them we think this one might be alive. the soldiers came in and they put me on the ground. see there are some rules the war. anyone would now become your responsibility so this wounded combatant person man child terrorist calling what you will you have to treat them in accordance with the law. could or said in perfect english just kill me now and then someone else replied. no you're going to live to tell all.
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i wish i could say i felt compassion for prisoners at that time i really didn't they were the enemy and that's the way it is and that's how it has to be you know it's very easy for people who've never been to or say oh you have to have you know you know you can't. the 1st time i saw him or he was really better off he had a really large hole in his chest so it was just you know. he had shrapnel all over his face. i don't know how he lived through it he was really blown. a soul the stitching all over his body he looked like. an autopsy had been performed on what he was a life of i was 15 and marrow. was really creepy you look like someone who went down there. people would treat me he met me when he was a murder
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a calling him a killer calling the scum bag they said that he was responsible for the death of an american soldier so they were filled with hatred they would tie me up to the bed. taking him out of the cell getting him. while his hands the shackled while he's got all these blooms and his shoulder on his chest to lift up crates of water pile them up kick them down again and make him palm up again and again. you could hear people screaming all the time. and then the guy would go for a few days of tears screaming screaming screaming and then he would come back. just . destroy person so you can only. imagine what happened to him. they always call me the monster driver very loud voice and you know i was basically yelling and throwing furniture around or going in
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there and performing a stage play in this is the character you have to be well you know i'm going to be that. he had a lot of tattoos that people that he did interior interrogate would come and tell me or stories. they were using stress positions the most common one was to have them on their knees with their back straight but off their heels and their hands straight up in the air it's pretty painful your knees start really hurt your whole body hurts or. blows to the stomach slaps to the face kicks in the ribs covered a mortar had a mixed really cold situation so we just don't controllable shaking of whole body doing everything but threatening them and then pours a miracle gro on it letting their minds take over. he come back tired exhausted. dazed. he was shaken very clearly by the interrogations. he's just a child who's mind that played with. sexual.
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abusers. who are drugged. humiliate in order aborted darks sleep terror ation music is just. they throw off the whole book. the most tranquil i would see him was when he'd sit and read the koran with a voice that is almost or double just enough that he doesn't get punished it put the rest of us to shame because people always trying to complain about something while the other end of us will this point completely. i remember just looking out of a nose the 1st time i ever really had any of the moral contemplation of how just a war is that this happens to a child that he gets wrapped up in something like this.
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the criteria to go to guantanamo i was speaking a western which. some generals somewhere decided that hey if this big a western language well they're up to no good it was way above my pay grade that was decided at then you know it's one of those things that again i thought it was ridiculous but it was my job and hayes are you going to get want on i'm out. there with our shaved their heads completely shaved to be here this burn their uniforms that they're wearing there was and put them into these blue jumpsuit and then they would get these goggles that had green duct tape on the outside of home they put those on they would put their most for a rifle range over their years. of an mitts on their hands and then they would be double shackled on the hands want to around there were waist and leg share long leg shackles and then they would put them on that was the 130 or c. 17 and they were cargo strap the prisoners to the floor but can cuffed behind their
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back. pretty while human beings are doing to. the arm on most dangerous. best trained patients killers on the face of the are. terrorists there bob makers there are members of al qaeda the taliban and i think i know for certain is that these are bad people. there was nobody who sounded proud of having him in custody and it was always something that if you speaking to an interrogator who didn't like you it was something you could get back with other than the octogenarians that you have in custody you also got children like i'm
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a father and if he's in custody being treated this way and he's from a and neighborly allied nation like canada what hope do the rest of these people have in this one guard in guantanamo he would go out of his reach just to humiliate me tag and i as we he was just trying to get me to do something cursed mean you know insult me. and he was really getting under my skin. i want to know who that guy is you know i'm going to stand up in the window and wait for him and know who he is so i can get back to him the next i get an opportunity and i just stood up at the door and i'm waiting and then i was thinking you know if i knew who that person is i'm going to allow him. i'm giving him more power of myself i'm giving him a place in myself that he doesn't deserve. he's not worth me caring.
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we can all remember jim webb this guy is going through a thing is if a person can inflict pain on another person and find pleasure in that. person must be going through a lot of problems like mental problems i don't know how you live with this conscious. he's probably living in the worst pain. he's causing me it's temporary i'm going to be frustrated for a little bit but he's the one who's going to have to deal with this conscious later . you want to talk or somebody. you know they so. they. want to know that. well not anything i think left that. i had about a young canadian kid who was detained abroad but it was not much information i
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wanted to do something i was just so offended that a law could be so some thought. oh oh this is it is it is. it is it is there are very busy very. well i didn't really really wealthy you know my doctor but i mean you get a good medical care through your lawyer. i was keen to see omar kind of this young kid that i had been fighting for for years and then i walk in to do so. and i see this boy sitting on the edge of a bed and this was cooled off with no windows there were no blankets on the bed
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making prisoners such as room out uncomfortable as part of the program. and he was twitching all over. and i just thought it was so incredibly wrong that. a young child to be to weigh in a coal. lineage. who was chained to a floor and looked like some frozen had tried broken. remember 1st that. really. everything is just a general memory gone time with just so you can i can tell you about a period but i can't see it would it be all times you change to a floor. you belong to just
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a complete ironing th song. and. and i often thought. how do you propose that because i get a bit claustrophobic. i don't know what would have happened to me if i was close to 4 week. venus and soon i was leaving i think i knew what i said when i said i will be back and then you said everybody at least. i think in the beginning has another guy who says he's he's here also me. and then i have hope or despair it was just another person you know i was in with the every i don't think come come in touch with us. and misused. including your father. i told you i think it would you know something that is they cure visits. they are very
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interesting that then they were very good and they were very hard at the same time because you know i was interested in i get adjusted to the life i know what i can expect i know it's going to happen and then you come and kind of remind me of what i don't have a. fairly decent food fight for their football fans who don't think about doping really had that lead explaining when real madrid it's love worth 500000000 euros expresses
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a position on something like the world anti-doping agency has to take notice if you don't get. in part 2 of this see you he's al-jazeera continues to explore the widespread use of performance enhancing drugs sports dope in the endless chain on all jersey or. in the united states i learned that the 1st amendment is really key to being a. leader of. this point of. men and women in the me forces that are available what makes a healthier story is that we just don't tell you what the subject of the story wants you know the government is not going to do the one thing the demonstrators want apologize for that's what al jazeera does we ask the questions so that we can get closer to the truth. if you are in beijing looking out the pacific. oh shit you'd see american warships when miss some time is aiming to replace america and
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going to run the world well the chinese are not that stupid these guys want to dominate a huge chunk of the planet this sounds like a preparation for our 1st president george washington said if you want peace prepare for the coming war on china talk to josie. and i'm daryn jordan in doha the quick reminder of the top stories here on al-jazeera the u.s. release the name of the saudi arabian official believed to have been involved in coordinating the september 11th attacks the name would only be revealed to a limited number of people. who has more now from washington d.c. they'll be releasing it to the lawyers for the victims of the $911.00 attack as well as the courts and then it's expected that the lawyers for the $911.00 victims
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will then appeal to the justice department to have the name released publicly the lawyers for the victims of $911.00 attack say that they support this justice department's decision but they also say this battle is not over yet they want to identify any and all saudi officials that were involved in any way with the $911.00 attacks they say and they expect more revelations and more disclosures to come out in the coming days and weeks 10 u.s. democratic presidential hopefuls are in texas for the 3rd primary debate front runners joe biden elizabeth warren and bernie sanders a share in the debate stage for the 1st time together on the months of focused on health care and immigration so far. the u.n. says more than 2000000 people face starvation in somalia and it's calling on the world to act before it's too late country's experiencing its driest rainy season in more than 3 decades so dan's new prime minister abdullah having doc is in south
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sudan for his 1st official visit he wants to improve relations between the neighbors but he's also there for talks with groups who've been fighting the government in khartoum for years. at least 50 people are believed to have died in the democratic republic of congo when a train derailed in the eastern province of tanganyika a government minister says several other people were injured forecasters are warning of tropical cyclone could hit parts of the bahamas already battered by hurricane dorian 1300 people are still missing a number dropped from 2500 after government checks and evacuation centers 50 people are confirmed dead so far. and google has agreed to pay another half a $1000000000.00 in taxes to france the payment ends a 4 year investigation into the u.s. tech giant the french government is pushing ahead with new taxes on big technology companies despite u.s. threats of retaliation and french wines those are the headlines the news continues
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here on al-jazeera after witness statement that sort of by fidel. the 1st few years. it was just all over the place. ideologically i was just a mess i would be around a bunch of people out start acting like. talking make them just say everything they're doing and then they'd move me to a different place and i have to adapt to the new air neighborhood. or their systems are. they have. all of us as physicians particular psychiatrist and is senior officers.
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get too much experience with people who are highly manipulative so i ask myself when i met omar where's the manipulation not if. there's a manipulation where's the manipulation you don't get. why you care if you follow on a lot of the almost all of those ah yes. i always thought of this all it was yes it was. will all be serialized. be your ready. already a very. you know all. their own. busy
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as he was being questioned by the americans he was of course given water to train. but that he was not allowed to urinate and he had to have some point felt that he was going to splatter was going to burst and he was told to head to urinate on the floor and then after urinated on the floor he was told well now he had to clean it up bad that he was not given towels or allowed to take his shirt off but they had to in fact sort of roll around it to clean up the urine on the floor and that's what has been described as the human mop to. and i just couldn't believe what had happened to. you know here so here's a young man younger than my own children who's been there at that point for 6 years. but. only
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something that could help me that you show my government that you're willing to help us against a group of people who are bent on doing bad things she looks. like. i don't want your life story telling. you only. everybody recognized the presence and the soldiers those who are true to themselves those who are true understood that there are all rules. of children at war that the american military and everybody else is supposed to study and know we have over 1200 american soldiers killed in afghanistan. a 15 year old boy pays for that.
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when these guys went to camp and they were making smores and learn how to tie knots there or know how to make bombs and kill americans of course he defended himself he just did not give any you know i i thought they were video simple kids but it turned to be the at once if you are in that situation would you have done i would farto have the last drop of blood fall out of me too you know but he didn't buy it for 4 hours 3 of his friends were with him and been killed use the only sole survivor what did you expect him to do when any kind of fire for happens anybody who's still standing is fair game because anybody who's not taking part in it's going to have cover when the war you're shooting at him why did he shoot at you if you kill 3 why can't he kill one many why is it why does nobody say you killed 3 of his friends what does everybody say he's killed an american soldier and we're going to hold terrorists accountable when they kill american military forces he's
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a terrorist when i took the job i came into it believing the whole worst of the worst montra you'll see evidence when we get into the courtroom of the smiling face of omar kotter you know as he builds bombs to kill americans. there's 18 years there is the one member. and i just took it as being fact until he no one got into more and you know this is sort of talking. i heard different fares or what have. you lost consciousness for over a week. though is my memory more accurate soldier who was. actually there. are one side over. that person there and the other side it. does make a difference. it's a mockery of justice. we had to think spin from start to finish. no evidence of
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torture was permitted. it was a visitor of any defense. in order to conclude this is a rigged system. i think you have to infer that the president the congress neema prosecutors the judge the jury the convening authority the court a military commission to review the d.c. circuit court of appeals and the u.s. supreme court are all corrupt i felt like mickey mouse disney world you know they wanted to call this military justice by having a 2nd rate process. and so in order to call it military somebody had to put on the costume. the joke we used to make yet alludes to when as you see it charged as a war criminal and convicted with a room with 7 people that have been convicted and sentenced 5 of the 7 aren't kuantan a mono so if you actually get charged and convicted as they were criminal you've
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got a 5 in 7 chance of going home. if you're never charged with a crime you could spend the rest of your life sitting on top of it which is extraordinarily ironic i pursued all my plead guilty to take a deal and wanted one of his 1st thought as far as the canadian public will believe i'm a terrorists and i said to him you know if he don't do it to me you spend the rest of your life here. but i was the only way out. which i decided twice and both times they just suspended it. so i knew that i was never going to be charged in a magical missions the only way to get my case resolved is to take a plea deal e.g. use one you know one time when the rest to come back to canada there's no injustice
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that was done up until 2010 when we went down there for trial and offered a plea bargain that might have been an injustice because that was what i felt was a political decision they did not want him to be the 1st one they did most of the guantanamo child was the 1st one he had i sat with him for ever be a murderer. my children my entire family all more carter is a well known supporter of the al qaida terrorist network than a convicted terrorist. caught her family was viewed as canada's 1st family of terror and no one was really rallying to bring him home. press families they're very opinionated and that's not always a smart thing. they've said things that there. was not
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a very smart there that they should have said well if you didn't go and meet kids on the street well nothing to do with andy and time delay to die in your bed to die is he as a martyr yeah he answered and i know. you're going to symbol very very soon well maybe he is having if have it you know i've been in one time i'm all for 20 years and if there is any place where i was going to be brainwashed was in guantanamo where i only had. only one source that influence and that was not necessarily their healthiest and i think i did ok here i live in canada my family is only one 3rd of and 4 and. 5 but i have a 1000000 other influence so all i don't think people should worry about my family
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if anybody's going to be. affected i think they may be affected by the truth of that their. i hope so any race his notoriety or his fame or infamy what do you want to call it in kuantan a mole is one that's been created for him by those who are holding him he didn't do it himself he's nothing he's really done in incarceration in custody that has made his case more prominent than anybody else's his circumstances of what what's made that happen and his treatment and who he was when it started i.e. a being a child the child who grew into a man in kuantan i'm a knows nothing other than that you know you raise your children to own up to what they do you accept responsibility for it ask forgiveness and we don't conduct ourselves that way as a country and that's really just bewilders me. there's
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a saying that's attributed to gandhi is through our suffering they're going to see the error of their ways through our injustice they'll see the error of their ways and worse through mars' injustice that definitely i started to see there if you wish to know it was definitely here and he helped me in that sense in the sense of regaining my humanity it was was partially because or him i guess i want to thank him for that. after a decade long legal battle all marred catterick is back in canada. this whole transfer has been quite a shock to my system at least in guantanamo all he had some come up camaraderie from fellow muslims. and the long road to ride on canadian soil. was an attempt to stab him you know have interest then i was able to negotiate his transfer to reverence and since he's arrived in edmonton he's a life has been miserable. this white supremacy just. that
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i have never met anybody who's been so abused and so abandoned by so many we should know better. than omar khadr. that this guy came up to me and he told me he killed that soldier and my family is in the military and i'm going to punch you . there was a mistake in my dog that opened that chance that you have seen the face. i try not to on the past. it was either that. or. be. you know goals to in aid and misery and think of how bad life is but that's not going to get me anywhere i try to think about things that will hopefully make my life and hopefully the life of people around me better.

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