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to northern syria but part of that more this area from the euphrates to the iraqi border but of course that the amount of refugees who would be sent depends directly on the the breadth and depth of the well there's only that the turks will control and it's don't quite clear how far president trump who how. clear the way for this operation. what he meant by it were saying that if the turks go too far so there are going to be complications arising where the spec to us on the stand the you know the oh there are operations it would proceed. what do you mean well i mean when you speak about the us misunderstanding i mean we initially thought that president trump endorsed this minute change caution everyone was saying that u.s. withdrawal from the area effectively given this operation the green light now comes the statement from president trump from the white house saying that they don't
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support any of this how is that likely to be received in ankara. you know it's not so much us misunderstanding as as the u.s. or it is the u.s. president. you know arming both sides of. the argument as it were for us giving the green light and then saying that that if you turkey goes through for it what there was there to economically i have no doubt that that trumps are shifting positions is a matter of concern in. without because we've been this way before in 2018 trumpet at the end of the year promise to withdraw troops and never did and the turkish operation long anticipated there were so clearly it is tied to 2 trumps willingness to allow this to happen and his willingness to do withdraw the troops so the question is how far will trump allow they took show creation to develop into. is it death and birth as i said and there's
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a lot of opposition in congress and i think i'm just arius miss ali reza is it is it your sense that that will be those within the administration that oppose this move by president trump i mean we've seen this in the past the same thing a year ago when president trump twice said that he wanted to remove u.s. troops ah that those that will be lobbying him to say that what we are seeing now should effectively prevent or at least delay a u.s. withdrawal from the area or is it too late for that broadly or u.s. withdrawal has taken place for from the immediate area on the border which is facilitated the turkish upward redeploy. it redeploy you know they're already deployed to do further inland away from there from the border they have not been withdrawn the pentagon is going from that they're still there i think only about 50 were in the immediate area on the border and those are the ones that were joined i don't think there to go back to your question i don't think that there is much
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opposition within the administration mattis is gone bolton is gone but once you actually post that in the process go on it's much more trumps colleagues in the senate mcconnell. graham and now this were actually leading the opposition. to this move that clearly they have not been able to prevent. the charm from or force structure of our suspicion but as the operation develops i think that this is going to be increasingly a factor that's why i don't want to do this question's and the length and breadth of the ok skirt in russian and present i do on will be watching those developments in washington very closely and initially thinking that he was on shore afoot saying but now we see there is bipartisan condemnation of the way in which president trump has cheated his kurdish allies in the area and perhaps they will be worried about congress taking action against tech as
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a result of this but there's some talk that in fact there is going to be a move to impose sanctions on charity and you know you know it almost said has every reason to be confused by trump's attitude and trump is a very material fact there is no willing to switch positions you know i give almost the opposite of what he was arguing before and with us in any inconsistency so you know as you go ahead with the operation from ancora director among the most worried about what might be happening in the white house. thank you very much. appreciate getting your thoughts on this story perhaps we can check in with you a bit later on as the story develops and i'm now joined in the studio by rym turkmani director of the syria conflict research program at the l.s.e. so could you start by giving us some idea of the numbers of syrians that have been living under s.d.f.
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rule i know that you've been speaking to some people and some of the families in the area but how many people are we talking about in this in this area that turkey is moving into i think turkey wants to move only according to them obviously only to the border area were around 750000 people live if they extend further to the south then the we're talking about millions i don't have the exact figure but if there reaches one runs around and you know even more and yet only in the north and the north we're talking about hundreds in south or of thousands for there are down there are certainly millions so there is a very high number of civilians to risk and this is not what is being highlighted right now i just finished talking to a friend in russell i mean she said it's wrestling is now under turkish fire she said i just left the city it's a ghost town no one's left so that everyone's free to. choose the are a pretty long winters away she said all along the way before we're walking on their
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feet escaping the city including her neighbor who is on his deathbed they have to throw him in the truck her friend who just had a c. section they had to throw in with a baby milk truck he'll have to leave suddenly overnight with panny and fear and there is no one to protect them everyone was saying how can this happen to us how can the exposes like this overnight where is the international community how did the americans allow this how did the european allow this to happen you know they have so many questions there are no answer and you. say that you've been speaking to some of these families here and one particular family was speaking to end the pain area and they are now moving into what is the situation there are they fleeing to a place of relative safety relative safety yes i mean is is mainly under regime control it's an arab city and that shows you actually you know it's actually undermines this narrative that there is an arabic kurdish conflict there you have
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these kurds fleeing to the nearest arabic city and according to them it's the arab you know. arabs in the in the sea toward now opening their houses to them and you know having them at their guests bus the closest city but this is already crowd going to be able to take everyone has a key is already you know having counseling has its own issues there's not enough food and sources and services and now it has to take all these i do p.'s and a very short time again rusts. begin to go city there are clashes there there is shelling most of the civilians have been left to live and i suppose the advantage of that if you do have civilians that are on the move and they are leaving these areas that perhaps it might go some way to limiting injuries and civilian casualties if people have moved out of these areas absolutely but we already here are of about 10 so been used casualties so far so
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it's not true turkey is saying that they're only targeting as the forces know civilians are dying and most importantly what i heard from all my friends all of them say they will never forget the experience of a freeman because we have this moment being implemented in the free before where you had the turkish pact group who are not from my friend who are many mercenaries on fox tree there they've been supported by turkey to take over a friend which is many kurdish city and they've been behaving like thugs tourer. and people stealing. in all their houses living in people's houses at and people think the same is going to happen right they think is the same of acting that once they leave these areas they won't be going back but they have and if they go back there will be subject to something similar to is happening in a free and there will be humiliated. numerous reports about human rights violations
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by the turkish back to groups in our freend so the fear of the same thing will happen there is no security in a free and there is always either assess nations or bombs going off you know it's not a stable situation and now they want to introduce the same model and they call it the spring of peace now and i think the most dangerous aspect which not i liked it enough i think that the coverage is using the syrians themselves to do this so your reporter was saying they're using the free syrian army it's not exactly the free syrian army the free syrian army was like a brown that was created early in the relation for those who took up arms against the regime they had the political cause no those people are different those people are collected by turkey here and there turkish backed troops so they're not are not deploying members of their own armed forces but they have militias and various groups a fight is perhaps you can call them us or knees that that they are soldiers that are effectively supported by turkey the now being absent in many of those saudi are
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people who were forcibly displaced from the without from my homes my own city. from other areas in syria when we had local agreements that were so unfair and forced people to leave their areas with lots of grievance so they were just recycled in this war and then another area and that is so devastating to see the people from my own city going to fight over the kurds and the north for turkish purposes and turkmani thank you thank you. at get a sense of what's happening in washington now joins us and president trump has been speaking in the last few minutes he has talking to reporters at a vent in the what looks like the roosevelt room he was asked what he would do if turkey wipes out and this was the reporter's words apparently wipes out the kurdish population the u.s. presence spottable that i'll wipe out their economy say that he's done it once
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before so this is a president who send very very mixed messages that i think is really confusing members of his own party some of those closest to him we saw on sunday there's a phone call between him and ergo on that all of a sudden he tweeted out that u.s. troops are going to go they were polled back then the white house said but he wants to act rationally or they'll devastate their economy this was after a huge amount of blowback from even the president's staunchest supporters they say this is a huge mistake set in the wrong message abandoning allies the press coverage for this decision of the president has been pretty brutal as well republicans even like mitch mcconnell the leader of the senate who doesn't ever say anything critical of the president saying this is a mistake so then we saw the president after that criticisms threaten their economy now he's tweeting out again that you know he thinks that they've been they've been at war forever these 2 sides and that the u.s. can no longer be the policeman of the world even though he said it was only 50
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troops he is insisting that he didn't give turkey the green light but i think it's worth noting that those 50 u.s. troops were in fact the very thing that was keeping turkey from taking this action so the president took that very thing away and then this happened so i think you can probably make a direct causal relationship between that phone call and what we're seeing on the ground all right for now thank you very much patty calling in washington. now 2 people have been shot dead near a german synagogue and comeback shop in what authorities are calling an anti semitic attack attack and sides with younker per the holiest day of the jewish calendar the shooting took place in the eastern city of holly gunfire was also heard in the nearby town of landsberg about 15 kilometers away it's not clear if the 2 are connected and in baba reports. the
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video from a mobile phone might be shaky but it conveys just how calm the gun man is as he shoots down the street and holler. and watch how people take cover in the distance . eyewitnesses say one woman a passer boy was shot near a synagogue the spokesperson for the local jewish community says an attacker trying to shoot his way into the synagogue around 80 people had gathered all your poor the holiest jewish holiday and then threw a grenade into the cemetery next to it germany's foreign minister has tweeted it hits us in the heart that a synagogue was shot on the day of atonement we must all act against anti-semitism in our country. elsewhere in the town one person was reportedly killed when a turkish kabob shop was attacked. i was standing at the entrance and saw an elderly woman pass by and behind her there was
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suddenly this man wearing a helmet and military style clothes he was holding a gun and wearing a balaclava and then he tried to throw what looked like a hand grenade but it bounced off the door frame and exploded right in front of this elderly woman with a very loud bang and then he raised the gun and started shooting. as police warned people to stay indoors they confirmed they'd arrest it one person. told we have at least 2 crime scenes one person died as the result of a shooting in the area of ludwig vocalist strasser and another one in the area of humboldt strasser we 1st received information that there was one terrorism suspect who was armed and have since been suggestions that there could have been more people involved but that's not confirmed at this point. the suspect was wearing a head camera and the attacks were live streamed on the internet the gunman speaking english and german calls himself a holocaust denier also denouncing feminism and mass immigration he calls himself a loser after the synagogue attack doesn't go to plan before moving on to the
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restaurant the shooting was also reported in the town of landsberg 20 minutes drive from germany's tried to fight a resurgence of right wing a neo nazi extremism in recent years including the firebombing of synagogues the investigation into the howler attacks has now be taken over by federal antiterrorism prosecutors with the al-jazeera. well now to ecuador protesters have clashed with security forces in a 7th day of anti-government demonstrations thousands of indigenous people are on the streets in the capital tito angry over fuel price hikes introduced by president when rayna roads are empty and businesses a closed across the country as part of a one day strike against the austerity measures arena has refused to resign and says he's negotiating with dozens of indigenous groups that's america and its holy see and human joins us live. and we're just seeing pictures of the protests taking place in quito what's it like where you ali c.-a.
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marin they've been a protest here and as well not as large as in the capital gold but there were clashes with security forces that tried to keep away government protesters from another group that wanted to call for peace now it's very interesting because that these were peaceful demonstrations but indeed they're now in the organization of american states human rights commission as well as the u.n. and amnesty international have said that they are concerned about what they regard as an extensive use of force by the security forces not just against peaceful demonstrators but also against the media there have been a lot of a lot of attacks against journalists as well mary and now right now i am in which is where the president more general had moved temporarily you said the government to avoid the demonstrations in the political capital people but he actually went there a few hours ago we understand that at this hour he's actually meeting with indigenous leaders as well as trade union leaders to try to see if some compromise can be
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reached to put an end to this crisis. obviously people are not happy about the austerity measures just give us a sense of the sort of sense of crisis in the country right now and the living situation the economic situation many people find themselves in. well management 12 years since anything similar to this that happened but ecuador is a country that before that used to change governments almost every other year it was a very very unstable country and people who are for have the feeling now that they're going back to the past these was fairly measures especially the rise in the presence of full of fuel rather have raised the price of food to public transportation and people who are already living just with the bare minimum say that they just kept they appeal that this is unfair that they should bear the brunt of this mess but already has a new or at least 35 percent poverty rate and a very large indigenous population is also very angry at the fact that this
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government like the previous government of president rafael correa is allowing foreign companies particularly from china to outstart of mining investment on their land and they say that it is poisoning their waters so that is part of the things one of the issues that is being negotiated presumably at this hour thank you very much from latin america and then with the latest on the protests there in ecuador and you can read more about what's unfolding there on our web site al-jazeera dot com of course our top story there is the turkish incursion into northeast syria turkish troops have now moved across the border into the country and bring you more on that in just a couple of seconds more details coming up. so we now have confirmation from the defense ministry of turkey that a military incursion has been launched into syria all this part of a major operation aimed at clearing the area of kurdish fighters present type
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announce the move on twitter saying its aim was to eliminate what he called a territory. and order the kurdish led syrian democratic forces a saying turkish warplanes of several of its positions and this is cause a widespread panic and evacuations because have been key players in the fight against but on sunday washington announced it. was pulling all of its troops out of northern syria an emergency un security council meeting has been called for by e.u. member states to discuss what's happening charles strafford has the latest now from the turkey syria border. there as you say that they are targeting ace d.f. positions only we understand that one of these positions according to turkish media was in a stiff weapons. we are trying to make contact with people across the border it's interesting that i suppose of the last of the 3 'd aisles the lights all for to lobby out big of gold out. and certainly the people that we have spoken to i
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suppose with 3 hours ago saying that they had been told by the u.s.g.s. to remain in their homes but great concern for the hundreds of thousands of people who live along the school all the syrian side and we are following all the stories this hour as well 2 people have been shot dead near synagogue in germany the interior minister has confirmed this was an anti semitic attack it coincided with on cupola the holiest day in the jewish calendar the shooting took place in the eastern city of. and protesters in ecuador have clashed with security forces during a 7th day of anti-government demonstrations thousands of indigenous people are on the streets in the capital quito angry of a fuel price hikes introduced by president night in the rain no roads are empty and businesses a closed as part of the one day strike against the austerity measures there and
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how i once again weather the fame loss you try the moments across australia you have a costco those bush foster blazing away that just around the eastern side of the country southeastern parts of queensland into the north off new south wales as we go on through the next couple of days they say things will at least out to cool down pressman of about 22 celsius last couple days we're getting up into the mid thirty's so that does show some signs of improvement further west says generate
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drive into the interior alice at about 30 degrees 21 there in perth on thursday some the temperature as we go on into friday in a similar temperature to as you can see for brisbane so the temperatures really fully back quite nicely here i notice by friday showers so long spells of rain just just drifting their way and that he says out of queensland anywhere from around townsville right down into the eastern side of victoria 17 celsius the full melbourne on the other side of the tasman same got some wet weather making its way into the sea haven't seen this cloud that will bring some rather stormy conditions into the west all south south auckland we are going to see some really wet weather pushing in here them as we go on through thursday and increasingly wet and blustery for the north of the friday oakland 17. teach on from office
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a photo of the cine team from manning. profits for a few. that is tourists flood europe's must see destinations tensions are rising. with local communities paying a heavy price for popularity people in power what are the true economic and environmental costs of europe's tourism on al-jazeera. al-jazeera. hello i'm maryam namazie this is the news hour live from london coming up in the next 60 minutes turkish ground forces cross the border into northern syria as part
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of a major offensive against kurdish fighters. and car is saying it wants to establish a safe zone in syria and help the refugees return home but when it triggered a new humanitarian crisis. 2 people are shot dead in germany in what is now being treated as an anti semitic attack. and clashes on the streets of ecuador's capital as thousands of protesters lead a national strike against the government's economic reforms. in doha with. thousands of women of a men's football match in iran for the 1st time in decades we'll have that story and more later this news hour. welcome to the program out top story this hour turkey has launched
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a ground offensive and ne in syria as part of a major operation designed to clear the area of kurdish fighters the kurdish led syrian democratic forces are saying that turkish warplanes of bombed several of its positions causing widespread panic and evacuations victoria gate and now reports. turkish forces in the syrian rebel allies attack kurdish positions in northeast syria pounding there with strikes and artillery barrages in a cross border military operation just days after u.s. troops pulled back from the area world leaders have described the offensive as dangerous and reckless and warn it will threaten regional stability. the turkish vice president sees it differently. i would that this operation will be a source of peace and will bring peace and will sort out the syrian crisis in a radical way this operation led by president resupply of as one of the steps and
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one of the procedures among other steps taken by president for the sake of syria and for keeping the unity of syria. turkish present redshift type 2 and says the aim of the offensive is to eliminate what he calls the terror corrido along turkey's southern border it will target turkish led syrian democratic forces and isolate fighters you say wants to establish a safe zone inside territory currently held by the s.d.f. by 2000000 refugees hosted in turkey can be settled. the s.d.f. says the offensive has caused widespread panic and evacuations and will trigger a new humanitarian crisis the better we saw 2 tanks in front of our village so we left fearing that our children might get hurt following the shelling of the village most residents have left but some young men have stayed. the kurds have been key players in the fight against i feel in syria the s.d.f.
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of the pale to the united states and its allies to establish a no fly zone to protect it from turkish attacks that are done at the kingdom of god either nigel martyn of the out of 1 egypt turkey is trying fruity attacks to the united for the master. it is trying to lengthen the life of these groups we do not agree to any attacks by turkey and by supporting the world needs to reason behind the attack on the northeast of syria. the turkish government describes the main fighting force in the s.d.f. as a terrorist organization linked to the outlawed kurdistan workers' party the p.k. k. which has fought against the turkish government for decades and again sees this military operation as a chance to weaken an old enemy. but the international community is worried about the prospect of more suffering for the people of northern syria as well as the security implications of this move turkey is a fall off with no clear plan about how to deal with thousands of jailed eisel fight is on the syrian side of the border victoria gates and be al jazeera. let's
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go live now to john strafford who's in a car on turkey's border with syria any more information on the numbers of troops being deployed here and who might be participating in this ground offensive charles . we have no confirmation on the amount of ground forces that are going to be used in this incursion by turkish by turkish troops and what we believe certainly will is what is being reported by the turkish government by their allies from the free syrian army now these are groups that were brought over from syria in the last 48 hours a so we understand who the turks have backed inside syria since effectively the beginning of the revolution it was understood that certainly military analysts are saying that those f.s.a. fighters were going to be right at the forefront of any kind of ground offensive possibly heading in across the border to the west from where we are now we have
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heard certainly in the last hour rules from the chief spokesperson for the s.d.f. across the border saying that the s.d.f. of repelled a ground incursion into the town of tel aviv which he's behind me now suppose it was about an hour and a half ago where we heard heavy clashes we machine gun fire we saw tracer fire very close to here interesting lee i suppose in the last 15 minutes you'll see the military has has been announcing throughout hate as to civilians very close to the border hit to basically not to gather in groups to stay as far away from the border as they can and pretty much to stay in their homes as i speak now i can hear what sounds like an all to. in the distance we've seen on the right there was
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a. disposable about half an hour ago. a large file bull appeared on the horizon and we suspect that may well have been one of the arms depos that certainly the shit turkish media were reporting the turks were. aiming their guns towards. of course huge concern for the civilian population in this area across the border especially hundreds of thousands of. syrians that have suffered is. already as we heard in big stories report there are reports now of evacuations of people fleeing their villages and towns interesting lee according to sun of now that's the syrian state media they say that they're reporting civilian casualties in a number of towns or number of areas including a coma surely a place called and russ in the turkish military the turkish government has said
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that it's doing all it can to avoid civilian casualties and he's concentrating its efforts as we were as we have been reporting on what he describes as a as an anti terror campaign against this group the white peachy which he sees as being linked to a group here that is has been fighting the insurgency in turkey for years now and said charles we know that i mean tacky is saying that they want to establish a sort of 20 mile security zone that's how they are describing it and that would cover. you know quite a few well quite a large territory in northeastern syria but of course these are kurdish populated areas tell us more about what i'm correct is trying to accomplish. well turkey says as you rightly say that he's trying to set up what he calls a safety zone across the border. around 30 kilometers into syria
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along this border a place where a day it says in trying to offer an area where some of the 3600000 syrian refugees that are currently in turkey can return to. what we what we need to as i say to he sees the kurds or the kurdish one of the main kurdish fighting forces the white b.g. in this area as being a terrorist organization and the population of that area is predominantly kurdish so you can imagine the kind of levels of fear amongst that population when you have effectively nato's the 2nd biggest military pushing into areas where you live and this of course is being massively highlighted by the international community and the united nations. turkey's stall she defending its actions saying it has every
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right to do this and he's trying to frame a 2 certainly frames it in a way as it being an operation that the world could benefit from in terms of the anti eisel offensive to the anti eisel battle what we do know though is that there are tens of thousands of eisel prisoners in jails that have be that are controlled by the s.d.f. by these to buy these kurdish forces who have been very effective in defeating leisel in this area and there are concerns that this military offensive could jeopardize those kind of gains that have been made against eisel in this region by the s.d.f. by u.s. led coalition forces and by deed the turks themselves thank you very much charles strength and with all the latest from a colleague there in tacking on the tacky syrian border and of course the operation actually began when as strikes when. on the syrian border town of a turkey turkey sheltering fars also targeted the town of tal charles was saying
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that way u.s. troops recently evacuated now this is territory held by the s.d.f. kurdish led forces troops stationed in the turkish border town of a collie where charles is reporting from turkey already has a presence elsewhere in syria holding a number of observation posts in the northwest an area also controlled by rebel forces says the wide aim of the offensive is to establish a safe zone inside the s.d.f. territory where $2000000.00 refugees currently hosted in turkey can then be settled . is assistant professor in international relations at university of nottingham and joins me live now from there the s.d.f. ice has a really no match for military might are they one of the immediate implications of . the syria what are we likely to see in the next 24 hours. well it seems that they're putting up a resistance i think i would guess it's a token resistance because turkey has spent the last several days signaling its
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intention to invade i think turkey would want to give the s.d.f. the way p.g. and others the opportunity to leave the area and also especially their american advisors to leave the area so there isn't an unnecessary clash between the 2 forces so i'm guessing that what we will see is a fairly rapid withdrawal because not withdrawing to stand and fight is going to be quite futile for the for the for the 1st year of fighters as long as turkey doesn't go beyond the 20 mile limit i think we'll probably see a relatively swift and relatively benign occupation i say relative of course they will be casualties and many of those will be tragically civilians.

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