tv NEWSHOUR Al Jazeera October 11, 2019 9:00pm-10:01pm +03
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the much publicized case of the summer palace bronzes is far from unique more and more pillage countries are demanding the return of their cultural assets the trophies of the renowned museums of the western world. countries have a legal tool to negotiate for the return of their stolen treasures the 970 unesco convention signed during the era of decolonization imposes on all nations to return objects obtained illegally. in recent years the pressure on renowned museums has intensified. the pergamon museum the most visited in berlin is obliged to know the origins of its collections. you start to understand that what you have here is not
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just archaeological object but it's part of the cultural heritage of the region or of these countries and at that point you realize you're talking about a political dimension or a cultural political dimension as a director i cannot say i don't know when somebody asked me how did your collection actually come into being so my responsibility as director of this museum is to know everything about the objects. well the key documents in this file are the ones that tell us basically that it was ok to take up the objects and this we have to do for everything and i'm considering that we have roughly 500000 objects you know that this is. a huge task ahead for us something that has to be done over decades really 500000 objects all and so that's an ongoing process that will take
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until i'm retiring but the important thing is somebody is doing it every day because you have to have i was i was this is said to have made a new going to close the critics on the present is an extent bush said you know i said that there's ideologue a big spy example in jest musicland missile never going off in a divorce exacta my dad will be a. professor. and. all the friends you see here have been pretty good to see him and we would be acquiring stuff and the pergamon stopped acquiring in the 1930 s. 40 years before the signing of the unesco convention which isn't retroactive this is. so the museum's collection is seemingly protected from demands for restitution but that's not the opinion in turkey especially in the city of god tep young these are guys and they should. live for so often
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a mr. you know. that we don't at all my. name is that down on that was. the man i should when there was a debate the internet. is. a man and a leg and then say in an s. and m. as many people in his business it is now you know that i've had. this black list includes objects on show in the british museum in london but also in the pentagon in berlin although they were all acquired before 970 turkey still wants them back. it's not a question of museums anymore because it's a request of the state of turkey. they also are in the process of overcoming. colonial attitudes towards cultural heritage and in this process they have started to realize that. countries in the west have not
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always been upfront about their practices of acquiring collections begin to do yeah savation. there is. a palooka. here's john dowd and they can i know. given busy i'm. busy i'm no gunson shante can play in kent and then. begin to d.l. solution to the visual a set. of 10 in on money and them i made. and was then to shoot it in this new they are abusing in. the pillagers happened over a century ago but turkey isn't ready to forget. like china and italy turkey has made the restitution of its treasures a political priority. within its culture ministry the turkish government has set up
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a special restitution unit. 40 or so lawsuits have already been won resulting in the return of over 4000 objects. one of the special units successes is the restitution of this music of orpheus stolen in the $950.00 s. then purchased by the dallas museum of art after several years of legal wrangling the museum was obliged to return it. while pillage nations like turkey have a legal framework to demand reparations this isn't the case in the private sector where only the market rules. in this antique shop window how many artifacts have a perfectly established origin in many cases it's practically impossible to verify . does the private antiquities
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market have its own rules immune to international legislation you know asco had attempted to extend its 970 convention to better control private transactions a new convention adopted in 1905 the unit acquired convention on stolen or illegally exported cultural objects obliges sellers to prove the legal origin of an artifact it also obliges buyers to demand proof but although the original unesco convention is recognized by 113 nations only 37 party states have committed to the united wired convention. so the market is winning thriving with its own often shady rules chadian as
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embodied by the freeport system one of the main thoroughfares of art market trafficking. the best known are here in geneva but the exist throughout the world free ports were originally special economic zones which stocked in transit merchandise to reduce or avoid customs duties our dealers are soon renting space in these huge warehouses to discreetly store artifacts by allowing people to store all kinds of objects without the slightest control free ports have long been considered as a hub of antiquities trafficking it's estimated there are over a 1000000 works deposited here more than twice the number contained in the movie. this swiss establishment guarantees its clients 100 percent confidentiality its high security site is protected from theft but also from prying eyes artifacts can
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be stored safely here for years since before. pulling on the. left you. know i mean you can join on would you like to find a not understood it should one image with one on sauce fiske out. on a t.v. i would order to keep the tax. no taxation an appealing advantage for our dealers while the works remain inside a free port they can be sold and bought without being subjected to any kind of tax customs duties are only paid once when a work definitively leaves the freeport a perfectly legal tax haven right in the heart of your.
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these facilities explain why the gallery phoenix keeps most of its merchandise in free ports and these showcases only a small part of the collection is displayed the gallery belongs to tom one of the biggest antiquities dealers in the world. in 2010 customs discovered in alley are tons warehouse in the freeport of geneva this is 2nd century romance a copper guess since then it has been the center of a complex legal battle. the stock of. tools will awful you know all of it to prevent thank our love and do i love on this on the on it off and off on dr to for that's off league put on their own music just so decidedly don't. do jane alcopop level.
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to the king what there simply is all sand castle of it equivalency and moan in lake clare early in this. faced with doubts over the object's origin the sale was finally cancelled as the coffee because it was probably looted in turkey swiss authorities decided to alert ankara let your for me do cool let your key sit there. but get up with said you. will poison you i didn't go see aunt jackie men who thought they did agree. to set this expose does she want to sit for you call the steam press and yes you're reported for it. as the tumble bruce doc. online via our own all out there full of the story of it with a documentary live only the longer that today clearly allowed one or both own them . except that after being restored in london there's
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a conflict as didn't return to geneva until 2009 so the turkish lawyer heading the case believes it comes under the new swiss law which demands every approachable origins for all works of art imported after 2005 in september 2015 swiss justice finally ordered the repatriation of the 2nd office to turkey but tom continues to claim ownership based on a certificate delivered by the company art loss register for years that if you get a positive early. book of us by that suit the glare is that if it outlasts nethers does all cope with is a really really classic may see both this late hour of. getting. a sucky sucky sucky due to
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a for me. what is an art loss register certificate the precious open sesame of the art market a document which states that an object wasn't stolen. founded in london 25 years ago as a private information service with over 400000 listed objects art loss register who owns the largest database of stolen artifacts in the world for a fee any buyer or seller can ask art loss register to verify that a piece is not listed on its database. these registration fees. could also be registrations from a new just in case items ever started on the register them on the database just in case they show off for sale somewhere else and i saw this examples of the theft from the national museum of iraq. in 20032004.
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and what was amazing is they were very careful and you can tell it was well because they went into the basement once they'd stolen everything and they destroyed all the documentation for the objects so that people wouldn't know what had been stolen unfortunately the major objects have been recorded elsewhere. they can say actually a different words that we've entered just to help bring that up so here they were wrong they were put. braided have a heart something like that and. in the case of the baghdad museum an inventor really existed so stolen objects could be captured on to the database but in war zones very few museums keep precise invent a reason and there's no way that objects discovered during illegal digs will ever be listed obviously that's incredibly difficult when you're looking at loot you don't logical material that has been looted out of the ground it was taken out of
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the ground and potentially the only people that even know of its existence of the people who dug it out. and yet this certificate is widely used on the antiquities market as is the case tom's sarcophagus. i wish i had a clue powers. i would say. it's we've always been very clear about what our certificates are for and they state very clearly that an item is not in our database and it's not being registered with us but that not every theft or loss or looting event is registered with us so it's not complete. the art loss register certificate nonetheless remains the main document supplied by a seller to prove his or her good faith
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a precious certificate which can multiply the price of an object by 10 but why is this as provided by a private company and not by a public body at least on a european level changes in national laws you go across an interesting nation state in the make it very difficult to resolve issues relating to stolen art in particular because suddenly limitation periods change principles of acquiring good title change is something that people take advantage of to get around the system. and.
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have been killed well turkey's foreign minister has been defending the country's actions. is done just that your dick they claim that turkey is targeting civilians this will never happen and has never happened turkey has always been sensitive about civilians and we are hosting many migrants and refugees the why p.g. is attacking christians in syria and try to portray it as if we are attacking them they are burning tires in order to break the vision of our aircraft and blame for bombing and burning places where civilians live this misinformation will never make us give up on this important fight we are fighting a terrorist organization and it is our duty to give the right information to the people to have struck an iranian oil tanker off the coast of saudi arabia iran's foreign ministry says he was attacked and set on fire in the red sea the crew is reported safe the foreign ministry is calling the incident
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al-jazeera it's back to our trafficking next it's the news hour i'll see you then bye bye. with the absence of common legislation and with skyrocketing prices trafficking has taken on industrial proportions. that it will be in the majority but the evolution is very good but there are some it does make the list grows even i do not meet them look it up but it will motivate the other joke among journalists and repeat this story to us a lot that the semester the 2nd just that not a 2nd at the argument and indeed a sound the bus if you know your generality and if you don't know is that the teacher there that us both out there is played as a catalyst to complain that as of today looters have direct access to the
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market all they need to do is post their object online where it can be sold anonymously in recent years the number of websites selling archaeological artifacts has increased or 100 fold on one of them we found this clay nail probably from a rock officially this type of object has been banned from sale since 2004 but on these platforms no one cares about origin export licenses or legal documents it's the final stage of what has become global trafficking. believed to be the 3rd highest illegal trade in the world antiquities trafficking was rarely in the public eye and. this it has gone unnoticed for years but footage of destruction by the islamic state of iraq and the levant isis has caused a major international commotion. on only i being here oh me my. scenery
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another reality much harder to measure mass looting. since its founding has been suspected of part financing its activities through antiquities trafficking. see poor could it be a least 6 now and again my gas would not stay. in pretty then out to security that no 3 said maddon at took until it is like you thought that. this was a key subject at a press conference to present the new red list published by i called the international council of museums for 15 years i come has been publishing lists of rare objects from various countries which threatened to turn up on the international art market this time it concerned antiquities from iraq and syria
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suspected of financing eisel operations as proof that the subject is being taken seriously several international figures attended the meeting including richard stengel representing the us government who would launch the offensive. we just don't go and essentially has to. be department. also why. are you going to. good evening i'm delighted to be here. what we've seen over the last year is i saw as weaponization of information and the cultural destruction that they're practicing is the 2nd ization culture so this is a destruction of history and destruction of culture and a destruction of human beings thousands of human beings at the risk of being too graphic i would say that burying or selling an artifact is where finances
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the beheadings of muslims in the middle east. don't sell don't tax one quick solution. you know by now selling is a very good slogan it's obviously impossible to completely police it and to be certain about it. one of the things that we've seen is that isolates using existing criminal markets that have existed over 102030 years in the region or using those people as middlemen to finance their operations. but how do we know what exactly is going on in the field absa the association for the protection of syrian archaeology has been recording cases of plundering in syria the association based in strasbourg and founded in 2011 at the outbreak of the country's civil war is headed by syrian
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archaeologist. according to information gathered by hobson eisel isn't the only armed group plundering sites in syria all the actors in the conflict are to blame to really military. act here in moscow lieutenant walks here young. man year or you dno. more active. an example. again easy. to list but. this is the most complex here like you see on the dodge. city many of the many people. especially. sick. asiri. what's the extent of this trafficking and how do the local networks that supply it
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operate to find the answers you need to go into the field most makes regular visits to turkey. to meet other members of his association. was early in the war as correspondents could easily cross the turkish syrian border but turkey recently closed entry into its territory. was the same you stop on. the ceiling but they are. not the sessions on the piece they did that you. push it up to the other. we see you. got to get it kitty don't use it on the whole case for to increase never be you know his lawsuit is the best able to come up it will be to fuck you. little easy but look what did mitt romney john of loosely based i mean no citigroup
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can you. not so long ago it was still possible to cross the border and large quantities of merchandise alive here in gaza and 1060 kilometers from the syrian border. according to several sources this turkish city is a hub for the trafficking of objects plundered by isis. show. doesn't have is full of antiquities stores in one window check most spots what he thinks artifacts smuggled in from syria.
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a very dizzy. or blanket child they tell me a good day i make soup. and a community. obs to see kim keep on a lot then buy it if you can match them but not us if you cannot be. any male input their ak is no sooner was nice sand they thought that the sun don't all agree and pleased. on that battle lead the damage son a bad. day. yeah the cossack of their heritage i cannot sit at the back it was do says she passed say. it's no longer possible to publicly sell all purchase an archaeological object without legal documented proof of origin. the pressure on private collectors has
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increased. any of their acquisitions can be examined at a time. when the server. is the one. reporters who. were going on when you said is that one also i don't know what are your walking with us perceivably muscle these are pretty careful if you are going to gather up. say 40 killed in a bug which is it is illegal or whatever. reason question the clues each year and took my 2 kids like you are a close group of school going to see if i move knowing into the p.s.u. sumanda ph situated in what i think that it will see them nor. there.
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after an 8 hour search the customs officers seized $123.00 pieces archaeologists have estimated the value of the collection at $95000.00 euros the collector will be questioned further the customs offices is facing 3 years in jail . she got it took it as the shuttle is ok. if you were there if you don't. know what. they call in your order if and most if it. is a hippo few. and. they get in the shop. as european dealers and collectors are subjected to a growing number of controls they now represent only a small part of the international antiquities market far behind the chinese
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a new category of collector has appeared every year in europe they flock to special . the oceans ready to spend fortunes to buy back their national heritage. a spending spree that has seen prices skyrocket and guarantee. that he's now getting. very good. on ah i see steve as i suppose. these are moderates who preach if the whole event don't want the taliban for the. meat puppet who will sell tons of shit so you may appreciate one ids example. he's home again but then the new. leaky belonged to my decades mino whole thing can only bust like usual police hold on i mean your meals and so me to demean you and all. guess is still in your better bunch you know
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that's right barry had a better year coming up after new year on a jet sheen that's it i know is it you don't got boy serious though about a young she. says so much in 80 don't pee on me to southwest soft august 2nd feel it it did. such a good to do or not but i could put that question right on about i am a citizen of the place i'm not don't tell and this really present worked on i don't. want to push to be there it did but that seemed silly appropriate there except they didn't know shit defense of any of so so happy again . the reason bernard gomez is sure he'll find a nato's prepared to buy this chinese steel is because wealthy chinese buyers are willing to invest fortunes in highly symbolic assets.
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these assets include a good number of plundered national treasures objects with a high financial and ideological value. purchases are driven by a strong patrie arctic feeling and encouraged by the state. you know hundreds. of feet down toward and. then shut down obama leaving when the hot. hot to go. home being shared 30 years. harleigh. this is believes that those who wish to become cultured should invest in safeguarding national heritage she has even founded an association which aims to repatriate historical masterpieces through any means. if. records see the. so much he that soil pressure you
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tenderfeet how shitty that means you and that this is your father said that the he could see him truly that japhet how you shout that evil will. not go miss regularly visits mrs barnes home at headquarters to collect the funds necessary for buying back plundered chinese works that are sold in europe i am a foreigner working in china since long time i understood that when there isn't a question of really when. there is no beyond of china's but only one voice it's a national really it belongs to our national and everybody sings the same things you know event if our countries. when german soldiers. are turning their. better what you're there to hear don't hit the bush would you do
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it that the bush. bears are coming out there tony the only just a total washout and up at. the sound and about are told. so soon kwaito jailed though jennifer are sure she should go. to their fate haha. and then a washing. machine that soldier she is out that you open. the message got across in the west to plundered artifacts must be returned to china otherwise sooner or later you will be held accountable former president of the french union of antique dealers christiane did he personally paid the price in the late 1990 s. he bought a collection of chinese gold plates the for selling part of it to french businessmen is wrong swapping know for 1000000 euros later the 2 men donated the plates to the
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queen may lose him in paris when one of the most welcome again yearly players can leave me a few years after their donation to the chinese announced that the plates had been looted and beijing demanded the repatriation in 2007 the 1st lawsuit was filed but not pursued 80 years on did he receive a phone call from the french culture ministry is old you. see news or you'll shoot lizard g.t.p. new no. don't sit if they don't also send you prove i knew later don't as you me for this and that you'll be doing it. but only real name law accomplices usually mama 6 internets you know she's she ok. so christian did cancelled his donation to the green a museum and flew to china to return the plates to the authorities the other
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generous patron of the arts for swapping know would return his plates in person to the chinese ambassador in paris a month before the official visit to beijing by french foreign minister fab use a model for cultural diplomacy. can't. dawn. dani babb. were. a. with that he says so give him your film it is yours. it was a little less all fed will do need a buzz the i pray you had to deal guess your loss.
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bargaining that has taken on a new dimension. and. parity is now being used for political leverage as a bargaining chip between states. the status of antiquities has changed once thought of as part of the heritage of all mankind cultural assets are now being held hostage by armed groups and used by states for narrow nationalist political and economic agenda that's. urgent action is needed by imposing tougher rules recognized by all through international organizations cultural heritage may regain its true place in our societies.
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offensive in northern syria. an iranian oil tanker on fire off the coast the saudi arabia iran describes the attack as a dangerous adventure. if you o.p.'s prime minister wins the nobel peace prize for his efforts to end the decade long conflict with neighboring eritrea. and full of confidence rugby bosses threaten legal action if their world cup match against japan is cancelled. ahead give it a whirl god of the tournament if the fixture is called off. hello 3 days of turkey's military offensive in northern syria has resulted in more casualties and displacements the nato chief as joins a growing number of world leaders calling for restraint and this comes as turkish
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forces push deeper into northeastern. syria they say they've now captured 15 villages as well as a kurdish checkpoints aerial strikes and heavy shelling have so far killed 15 civilians and 3 turkish soldiers the defense ministry says more than $300.00 kurdish fighters have surrendered or been killed but the kurds say that number is only 29 well the u.n. says more than 70000 people have been displaced and warns if the fighting continues 300000 could be homeless i shared with him my serious concerns about the ongoing operation the risk of further destabilizing the region escalating tensions and even more human suffering why church your house the gypsum its security concerns or expect turkey to act with restraint we have a common enemy darvish a few years ago they controlled significant territory in iraq and in syria working
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together in the global coalition we have liberated all this territory 1000000 so people these gains must not be jeopardized while turkey denies targeting civilians. i don't. go to turkey has always been sensitive about civilians and we are hosting many migrants and refugees the white b.g. is attacking christians in syria and are trying to portray it as if we are attacking them burning tires in order to break the vision of our aircraft and blaming turkey for bombing and burning places where civilians live this misinformation will never make us give up on this important fight we are fighting a terrorist organization and it is our duty to give the right information to the people. let's get an up to the from joining us from chicago that's near turkey's border with syria and as we're hearing the number of those killed continues to
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climb. well yes it's day 3 of the turkish air and ground operation and it hasn't been an easy fight yes the turkish army did capture a number of villages the turkish army of course is fighting alongside their local allies the syrian opposition and national army but there is fierce fighting for control of 2 key towns border towns russell line and tell us so the us is putting up a fight but turkey is using heavy power and like we heard from the defense minister it is difficult because they're trying to avoid civilian casualties so the turkish army using airstrikes they're using artillery bombardment and rocket fire what the kurdish forces are doing their defense is using trenches and tunnels so now the fight is focused on these 2 towns that wire these 2 towns strategic because they're going to be the perimeter of the initial safe zone turkey wants to create
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the turkish foreign minister making it clear that the initial phase of this operation is about taking control of 120 kilometers a stretch of territory along the border which will be 30 kilometers deep up until the m 4 international highway that connects syria's. so serious west so the fight continues there are reports of civilian casualties c s c s saying that civilians are being killed at the same time there have been turkish casualties as well yes the f.b.i. has been launching rockets into turkish border towns like this one i chuckle and that is why the turkish authorities have moved the media away from the border ok then i think you for that update from chuck ali let's not speak to robert onus and answer them he's the emergency manager for syria for doctors without borders thanks very much for speaking to us on the al-jazeera news hour just let us know what you're hearing from your teams who might be possibly on the ground about the situation particularly in the area as
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a photon. sure thanks for having me. teams have been working in libya now for several years being the general. we we were working there up until yesterday in which. point in time the town was largely deserted most of the civilian population left. once the shelling began and along with that with the people leaving also the medical stopped working in the us and as a result the hospital was no longer right. anyone who did remain there was there wasn't much left but we. also back to other locations in order required size to make sure that we can respond to the increasing needs. when large scale displacement conflict and what are the most immediate needs would you say and what would be your biggest concern the longer this
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operation continues. joe i mean i think you can break that those that down into 2 sides with the large scale displacement we see people fleeing to the south many of them one expecting this conflict and so they have literally left with nothing more than what they can carry in their hands and so they're arriving in into villages and towns for the south looking for accommodation all shelter in schools in marketplaces in in their houses a relatives or even strangers and we've been providing them with water and close as much as possible in these 1st days if this continues certainly there's going to be significant medical needs for that population particularly as winter approaches and then there's a lot of women and children among the displaced furthermore there's already a large scale displaced population within syria and within northeast area who are living in camps who don't have the ability to build easily their houses are being
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destroyed in previous conflict and they're heavily reliant on humanitarian assistance for food water medical care and shelter and so on now with these increasing needs displacement and potentially the need for a medical response i'm feeling that it's questionable whether that now and current humanitarian response is going to be able to meet all of that all right we'll have to leave it there robert onus we thank you very much for speaking to us from amsterdam thank now frustration and is growing in greek refugee camps that's where the number of people living in over i beg your pardon we'll move on to another story i tell you about russia because russia has expressed concern over the impact the operation could have on detained eisel fighters in syria. i'm not sure whether the took and will
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be able to take this under control and how soon this is a real threat to us also fasten has reaction from moscow. a different tone here now coming from russia after a silence of a couple of days since the military operation started from the turkish side now president putin has raised concerns he says he has doubts that i can actually control the situation and prevent eisel fighters from fleeing from escaping from the prisons and even fleeing abroad and that's a really big concern for russia because one of the largest contingents of isis fighters in syria are from a russian descent the 2nd largest language spoken in among ourselves fighters turns out to be russians so a lot of them are from dagestan and chechnya and know one of the aims that russia had in fighting together with syria on this war was of course to control i still
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and now after initially sort of indorsing the operation there by turkey by saying that the russia always understood the concerns that that turkey had with its border security now the tone is changing and russia is raising these doubts also in the last couple of days russia was encouraging a dialogue between turkey and syria and even offered to help with that and also a dialogue between syria and the kurds and the russia of course is a main player in syria and wants to have more influence over the country and over the future of syria and also over the middle east and that's an increasing chance since the united states has been 'd withdrawing its troops so it was going pretty well for russia but so far nothing of the dialogue has been established and also syria has already made it clear that they don't want to have a dialogue with the courts so it is a bit of an increasing concern after this initial silence plenty more ahead on the
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al-jazeera news hour including there will be a day in court south african judges rule former president jacob zuma must stand trial on corruption charges u.k. count. terror police lead the investigation into a stabbing spree in manchester we'll have the latest for you coming up also ahead in sports simone biles makes work history at the gymnastics world championships details with santa a little later. but 1st there ron is investigating an explosion on one of its or oil tankers off the coast of saudi arabia iran's national oil company says the vessel was hit by 2 missiles the ship was damaged but its crew are reported to be safe there's been no immediate response from saudi arabia. has more from to her on the finger pointing has also begun no normally what an incident like this happens the targets
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an iranian asset in the region were targets in iran in some way the the larger branches of government to the elected officials the military the supreme leader's office are slow to come out with the reaction they're very measured but we initially normally hear from the parliament and that's what's happened here a senior m.p. and a member of the commission the parliamentary commission for national security and foreign policy pointing the blame pointing his fingers pointing blame at the united states and possibly israel now we have to say that the investigations are still underway we don't know exactly what's happened the foreign minister statement released earlier today saying that it was some sort of external event some sort of external attack the targeted these vessels foreign ministry spokesman abbas moussavi also saying over the past few months some other destructive actions were taken against iranian tankers in the red sea and investigations are under way he also said that any sort of fallout that comes from this including the pollution from oil that is leaking from the vessel that will be on the shoulders of the perpetrators.
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