well as a fast growing tech start up folks at the end of the day democracy basically is at the ballot box and actually since usenet we've got things done we're only $25.00 weeks i mean i'm sure many dictators get things done around the world that's what dictators do doesn't mean it's a good thing it's a company structure your friend aaron bank says it's almost a dictatorship it's a normal company structure and people have the have the option to vote for it at the ballot box and when they had that option they voted for one of national action securing 50 percent more votes than anybody else or maybe actually people focused on the opportunity of breaks it not only one percent of the vote a 3rd of the vote 50 percent more than any other part of 3rd of the vote i mean it's a great use of statistics a 3rd of the vote we won let's go to our audience who want to come in now let's go to someone at the back they do their hand up you're a businessman turned politician another businessman turned politician comes to mind that. one of my frustrations sometimes that people in your position is that i feel that you shirk the social responsibility that comes with some of your policies so

what do you say to people like us who have been told things like go back where you come from when we've only ever lived in this country do you have anything to say tossed other than i'm so sorry that happened to you. and i'm very sorry if that happened to you. of course we have social responsibilities as politicians absolutely agree with that you have policies on fighting racism yes we do what are we completely intolerant of intolerance what's the poll you said you have policy all about is the policy a policy that's just another phrase or definition of a little this is a plan that a government can enact using the powers of the state or the exchequer changing laws around discrimination inequality changing the education system cracking down on discrimination all of those all over when i'm not even a politician all those very well thank you very much. you recently accused r.t. shark of hijacking the braggs issue and claimed that the amount of trade.

crossing the irish border was to use your own words and i quote irrelevant can i say as a point of information there is no such thing as an irish border it is a you claim border imposed on the island of ireland the irish border is this if you think it is irrelevant can you now speak to the social and political implications to the people of north if a hard border is introduced if you care so little a picture tells a 1000 words think of a glass jar with a 1000 small it is in it i was going to your analogy which was horrific by the. 1000 smarties those marches represent all of the trades that goes across all the $28.00 countries in europe ok the trade that goes across the irish border is between $1.00 and $2.00 smarties it is a tiny tiny amounts how dare you this is not about economics i've asked you about the social and political implications for the people of northern ireland if a hard border is introduced it's not going to be introduced because everybody has

again you saying everyone is not going to. that's not what. he said there has to be we can't have animals coming across the border without being better than the people of northern ireland people in particular and everybody said everybody who said they're not going to impose a hard border the head of the police force in northern ireland says he worries this could be a trigger for violence is he part of a remain conspiracy as well i don't look the reality is what you get when you know more about policing in northern ireland than that but there is no reason for that to be the case so when assistant chief constable barbara great gray who had sought the counter-terrorism unit in northern ireland says we predict that a 6 to 12 month period if there's a no deal brix it there could be an upsurge in violence that doesn't worry you at all of course everybody should be wired if you know you don't sound very worried about smarties and we're talking about the return of islands. where you are used to beat your record thank you so much let's go back to violence let's go out to what is there with the violence point that we have no one wants. we very clearly let's

go back people are wanting of violence richard what do you say to them i say why did the head of the e.u. own report into the border last carlson who had a report called smart borders to he said that under any situation any type of deal that could be a friction free border has said that's not the case and so i'm going to i'm going to go about it is there at the point because just before he was briefed because he wouldn't so we know but this is such a crucial as the lady quite rightly says under under enda kenny right he said with good will we can find the technological solutions he had good will unfortunately his successor didn't many on to try to hijack the issue for disgraceful his own reasons ok let's go to the gentleman my question is about immigration from the e.u. to the u.k. couldn't that northern ireland border become a choke point because anyone in the e.u. has the right to go to dublin there is no visa no control no checks and supposedly if there's no border just walk across the border ok so my question is what we do about that would you put

a controls between northern ireland or nothing but knowing that ok so then there would be free floating immigration into the u.k. then from that there's been a common travel area in arlen's and no law then for 100 years and of course that would remain so you're ok with people coming in from the e.u. through the frictionless border you know that would have is that what leave means leave now but the real i don't think it'll happen but to the extent it does you know we'll have to look at it ok maybe here when we leave on the brakes it portuguese woman and i want to know what will happen to my rights because the settlement scheme didn't work for me i gave your country my youth what will you give me. thank you very much that question it's a great question. with. the scheme is there at the moment it sounds that have you just recently tried to get settled status my status was frozen for 5 months my embassy is helping me i felt very frustrated i'm sure and i sympathize and i'm very sorry about that because since 92 for us how much of how many years

you've been in the u.k. just feel empty 20 years and you're now worried about your future posts yes and she started to talk i was attacked attacked many times you can put on one you can put on i'm sorry can i listen in straight after the referendum i said the very 1st thing we should do is we should say that everybody is every e.u. citizens rights were absolutely guaranteed i said on question time in november 16 and i was prepared for it but by a labor m.p. are you but do i absolutely feel i was absolutely right since you're right to sort this in your country it's your country but if you start our conversation by saying dialing this fall in you didn't differentiate by anybody then we wouldn't be divided like this ok we're going to respond to that i didn't say they are useful i've always said i welcome immigration on a sensible controlled basis let's go back to the audience and here's we're waiting in the front so the back to party is claiming to be sort of an answer to labor in

a lot of working class communities so why was your 1st policy brought out to get rid of inheritance tax like who you really you know you're going to not. because that was your 1st policy right. that was not 1st policy our very 1st policy was actually to invest over 100000000000 quid in the regions that have been left behind we announced on the 30th of june at our political rally we said how we're going to pay for it and actually you know it's those regional road and rail scheme is going to help the least well off in society with the insurance tax point no that is a very regressive tax it helps rich people in this country that's not really standing up for the f.b.i. and it's actually it's in. it's the most unpopular most hated tax in the u.k. and we think it's we think it's unfair we think it's agree just to the benefits from a cut in interest that would go to the richest states states with over a 1000000 pound we've got policies on the left in the middle and on the right but that is the most unpopular tax and we think it would actually it's been pretty well received very little in there we briefly come in you when you are very very very company that you set up an 1001 property group documents past me democracy showed

that over 40 percent of it is owned by 2 firms one based in panama one based in british virgin islands so why should we trust you on the direction of this country when a company that you set up most of its deficit and dividends go through tax havens and some country simply not true i mean thank you very much it was just because i'm a. taxpayer i was one of the shareholders are about a dozen shares in that business there u.k. shareholders and they pay you to be i'm happy to be corrected to one very quick question do you own inferior holdings ltd in panama canal shuttlecock holdings ltd or in a person absolutely nothing and. nothing to do with nothing 0 all the president's very good little breaks about it cracking down on the breaks about to be cracking down on tax havens when it's in office yeah i'll tell you why i tell you why because we believe we believe in high growth low taxation if you have low taxation

in this country then you reduce the need for people to look at tax avoidance judgement here in the lecture given that the campaign has been found to broken electoral law by the electoral commission why should we respect the results of a referendum on illegal means were firstly personally thank you thank you it wasn't won by illegal means but there was a there was a law for referendum over 30000000 people participate in that referendum the votes were counted and we won by over a 1000000 votes and then all that was a reality and then after it was done you were saying it's a matter of some amount. overspending that's cheating some might say it's not cheating on you personally opposed around the line because we're just not cheating just on the 70 ground levy you was fined you paid that fine but i don't know i'm not involved in leave don't you have no idea but you were at the time of that fine cover the period you were in charge of what i was a lot i was a co-founder of it i generally don't know i'm 70 grand so you can understand i was

going to remain and say come on this isn't fair that one of the main items campaigning got fined for overspending on the stand when people say that and it's usenet because pretty patel the current home search area asked the electoral commission to investigate why the remaining campaign set up 5 companies in the last month so they could spend an extra 1000000 quid illegally and the letter commission wouldn't investigate why because it's ok but just to be clear believe you did pay 70 grand fine for overspending in your referendum but no one's disputing the other well i don't know because i don't know if they paid a 70 grand finals pretty big news because i'm not a director of i wasn't over there we don't need to be involved or to know what's happening in the news but i've got to worry that what i do know is that mr they've subsequently been exonerated haven't they been so they've got the 70 grand back i've told you i don't know what to do you know if i met police you can't pick and choose what you know because the middle east i don't know you said suddenly you know about the story suddenly you don't it's of i can tell you what i consider was public information which is the met police i'm going to actual crime agency have confirmed that leaves out and you did not carry out any illegal criminal activity

gentlemen if i ask you 50 was to be revoked 2 together what was your prediction be for the future of british politics are you someone who wants to see it revoked not revoked. 20 from southeast london and i for the brits a party that. so i think that i think would be absolutely disastrous trust in democracy in this country would collapse even further than it currently is i mean it would be the most appalling thing. let me ask you this one last question before we finish let's say you get your wish and this no deal breaks it clean break happens if not on october 31st and shortly after and let's say i know this is hard for you to hear you're wrong and the economists at the bank of england the o.b.o. are right and there's a housing crash there's a fall in g.d.p. there's inflation there's employment at that point will you say nope it was all still worth it bracks it was worth the cost would you say maybe we got this wrong well there's different elements there's the economic issue and i think i'm right if

i'm wrong people won't vote for us is very simple but it is the other issues in terms of what we're going to exert in terms of sovereignty you we get back our sovereignty from the european union back to parliament and back to the people so that is you know that is that is something that is absolutely priceless we must achieve that and that is priceless just to be clear that there is a recession you think but we got our freedom back yes i think that even though you would be suffering from that recession is that if there's a recession everybody suffers and i do the same way richard you won't be suffering as much as some of the low income communities or as i've said before that actually if we have a clean break bricks it we can cut tariffs immediately on the items of the goods that actually producing those prices will benefit the least well off the poorest paid in our society the most and that's a good thing on that note we have to leave it there thank you to our patient audience and the oxford union thank you to our panel of experts thank you to richard teuscher becoming much thanks to our show us thank you dad you guys thanks terry.

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it's captured a key syrian border town controlled by kurdish fighters. 1000000 asked to evacuate transport service is shot japan is hit by one of its worst ever storm. a temporary truce in the trade war between the u.s. and china gets hit economies worldwide. and sport indeed takes a giant leap forward for athletics the kenyan running the 1st ever. sun beating the barrier by 20 seconds in vienna. turkish forces and their rival while i say they seize control of the city center of a key syrian border town it follows 4 days of intense fighting with kurdish forces in there also lying but advances on the ground of manned setback in relations with

some countries especially the us iran has urged turkey to pull out its troops is now offering to mediate between turkey and the kurds their hold the reports the turkey syria border. they are battling their way into kurdish controlled towns along serious side of the border with turkey it hasn't been an easy fight for several days. turkish troops and their allies the opposition syrian national army have pushed into the northeastern corner of syria they now say they are in control of one of 2 main towns along the 120 kilometer stretch of territory they plan to capture in the 1st phase of this operation ross a line has fallen they've also advanced 30 kilometers deep reaching the highway that connects to west and east syria effectively dividing the territory under the control of the. positions of the kurdish led syrian democratic

forces are coming under heavy fire but an incident close to a u.s. outpost along the border has added to tensions between turkey and the united states which said its forces were close to being hit by turkish artillery fire turkey's defense minister has a car denies his troops targeted the position saying they were responding to fire 1000 meters away the new front in syria's war is worsening relations between the nato allies which have long been strained the pentagon was more blunt calling them damaged international pressure is mounting on turkey to stop the advance the united states is threatening to impose economic sanctions the message from here is clear we will not stop the operation president russia or the god made it clear the wife the syrian kurdish armed group that forms the backbone of the us they must 1st withdraw 30 kilometers from the border with turkey. the humanitarian impact of the conflict is being felt on both sides turkish civilians are being killed in rocket

fire that's being fired into border towns probably. don't have any protection but we're not thinking about moving out now since we have a life here we don't want to leave our home in syria they have also been casualties among civilians caught in the conflict aid groups are warning of another humanitarian disaster in syria's 8 year war the area is home to people who've already suffered violence and displacement the united nations says 100000 are on the move and this battle has just started the number of those affected may rise fast senator there on the turkey syria border or it's all stratford is in jail and pienaar on the turkish side of the syrian border let's join them there so 1st of all charles from what we know who is in control of this strategic town of ras the line at this point. well certainly from what we know according to the the both sides there's

a dispute as to who is in complete control of this town as you heard senator paul the government is saying that it is taking control of the center of russell and well literally in the last 10 minutes or so we've seen what we believe could well be artillery strikes certainly clashes. in and around what looks to be the center of the town the s.d.f. the syrian democratic forces are denying that claim by the government this is a very strategic town though this is one of the furthest east as part of this what the government say's the 1st phase of this military operation to try and capture an area of around 100 kilometers heading west down to a town called to lobby out it was interesting on the drive here a we saw will what. we saw positions being set up by the military we saw reinforcements coming in a.p.c.'s and tanks and we saw soldiers lining the road

it's being reported possibly we might be seeing. an official from the ministry of interior here in the next couple of hours which would suggest obviously a great a sense of confidence by the government in terms of who is in control of this city but we're also hearing from the s.d.f. or from kurdish sources that there's still ongoing clashes in some of the areas around the city at the moment is as you can imagine it's very unclear but certainly for the last couple of days this. has been under severe artillery bombardment and as strikes what is the humanitarian price of all this look like. pretty dire doesn't it rarely certainly if you're looking. distinction what the united nations and aid agency is saying out of 100000 people already on the move according to the u.n.

the world health organization is saying that it's already having to look after around 580000 people with food aid in that area that was even before this military campaign by the turks started and then you got aid as you see saying how difficult it was to operate in that area anyway in terms of security although the the battle against icily in there has has been very effective and of course the s.d.f. the syrian kurdish forces would be very instrumental in that battle it's still a security issue over there so with this additional you know this military campaign going on that's going to be even more tough let's put in context as well some of the language coming out of the s.d.f. who is saying that they're very concerned about the thousands of isis prisoners that they have in jails that they control and in fact a spokes person for the. i think only last night maybe the small warning came out and said that because of the situation and because of this push by the then the

s.t.'s could no longer be responsible for those are so prisons and describe them as a ticking time bomb so you can imagine when there are reports that some of these prisons may have been hit. that there may have been escapes of arsal prisoners that we cannot confirm this is the big concern for the international community and surely would be a huge concern for the turks themselves well right charles stratford banned from tehran cannot speak now to matthew bryza in istanbul is a former u.s. diplomat who is now a senior fellow at the atlantic council good to have you with us so the trumpet ministration is talking about sanctions will they really go ahead with it do you think. i think they don't want to release if they is president trump he has established what he feels as a positive and even warm release relationship with president carter one and his

stated preference seems to be to be a mediator possibly between the kurds or the s.d.f. i should say and turkey. so much will depend on how the turks carry out this military operation you just played a clip of the defense secretary esper talking about serious actions and sanctions that could be taken against turkey if turkey goes beyond certain bounds in terms of targeting civilian populations and there is strong sentiment in the united states congress to impose sanctions so i think if if turkey stays within the bounds of the objectives that president carter want to outline to push back the white e.g. eliminate a terrorist threat along the border and create a safe zone for refugees to return from turkey to syria there won't be sanctions but if there are significant civilian casualties i think there will be sanctions how. impactful would sanctions be those sanctions that the u.s. has put in place but not activated it. there's

a whole menu of sanctions and yes some of them that would target for example the personal finances suppressant out a wad of defense minister and foreign affairs minister those wouldn't have an impact those i think would just make the turkish leadership angry and probably would bolster public support further public support in turkey for the operation if however the united states were to take a actions or sanctions that aim to damage the turkish economy that could have an impact the turkish economy is fragile we all remember what happened a year ago when the u.s. when president trump issued some tweets and then impose some sanctions against turkey economic ones and the turkish lira collapsed in value but for now president there to one is demonstrating a firm determination to carry on with this with this military incursion. do you think the u.s. made a mistake in allying itself with the why p.g. the those of course of the syrian kurds who are linked to the p.k. k.

a group which has a history of doing things like putting bombs in shopping malls you know targeting civilians in istanbul i mean it's not often that the u.s. i've been hearing a light self with with groups that do stuff like that that was the whole point of the so cold war against terror was to try and eliminate you know groups that target civilians. yeah i very much agree with you that that was a huge mistake to partner the way the us did with the white b.g. i mean longstanding u.s. policy has always been. you should never partner with one terror group against another one and i having been involved actively was the designation of the p.k. k. as a terrorist organization when i served in the u.s. government i always viewed these offshoots whether in syria or iran or elsewhere as the same as the p.k. k. so this was a huge mistake. i think later under the trumpet ministration that attempt has been to portray that arc of ship as transactional suggesting that once the fight against

isis is over the u.s. partnership with the white b.g. will end but it was a mistake and of the obama administration now of course my friends from the obama administration would say but we had no alternative turkey was not willing to provide $30000.00 ground troops the white beach was and instead of us soldiers fighting on the front lines it was a wipe e.g. fighters who didn't still i mean that's a fallacy in bargain that the u.s. cut with the like egypt i thank you for your analysis on that matthew breeze there . and protests against the turkish movie of fence of it taking place in several cities around the world but it smith spoke to some demonstrators and a veiled iraq semi autonomous kurdish region a little love lost between the kurds in this part of northern iraq kurdish controlled parts of northern iraq on the turkish authorities the crowd has been chanting terrorist terrorist and there is also a room.