theory. of syrian refugees while we're doing that we're also supporting and not the 3000000 syrian people over the border so we have been doing this is there any other country who are doing this the countries who are criticizing us they could they saying that this operation will harm the civilians all those countries who are criticizing how many syrian refugees do you have what kind of step have you taken so far about making peace in syria so hopefully up until the day operation reaches its target or reaches it and point we are going to continue the target is very clear we are going to clear our borders from all the terrorists which is why p.j. are and why k.k. and hopefully when we make the towns those villages into safe zones we are going to spend the refugees in turkey back to their countries this is going to be based on

voluntarily voluntary repatriation and so we are going to secure that of course. for a with the operation the. the claims that we are going to change the demographics of eastern syria northern syria this is also disinformation there is absolute truth about this. this by saying on the contrary to this the demographic the demographic demographics of that area has been changed by dippy k.k. they have invaded iraq big towns and villages in there and they invaded and occupied those places these this this is the p.k. k. the terrorist organization who has been financially supported by the usa by the united states so what ruins the demographics in that region is beginning by p

p p u p y g and p k.k. and of course the most important result of the most important aim of this operation is over not to not upset saying in the demographic system in the region so we are the country he opened the door we open that is its jaws and of course when while we're doing that we're not going to risk their lives this cannot be this this wouldn't make sense. clear move away from abraham collins and take it to the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. kelly craft speaking on the situation northeast syria will listen and including secretary of state mike pompei o united states national security advisor robert o'bryant and ambassador james jeffrey to press for an immediate cease fire and discuss the conditions for a negotiated settlement turkey's military offensive into northeast syria is

undermining the campaign to defeat isis endangering innocent civilians and threatening peace security and stability in the region. we have made it clear with turkey that any actions in northeast syria in violation of international law including international humanitarian law are unacceptable this includes but is not limited to targeting the kurdish population religious minorities including christians and civilian infrastructure and ensuring that no humanitarian crisis takes place officials and individuals responsible for human rights abuses will be and must be held accountable. due to turkey's actions the president has signed an executive order authorizing the department of state and treasury to consider and impose sanctions sanctions have already been imposed on 3 senior turkish officials and 2 government ministries we continue to call on turkey to take the following

critical steps cease undermining the campaign to defeat isis. cease and dangerous and civilians cease threatening peace security and stability in the region and cease its offensive and declare a cease fire immediately thank you. really and it's u.s. policy. all right the u.s. ambassador to the united nations not answering the questions that our diplomatic editor at james bays threw at her but so what was happening right there is that the u.n. security council had been meeting on syria it was a closed door meeting it was called by some of the e.u. member states and and kelly kraft's once again calling for an immediate cease fire calling for turkey that is to implement an immediate cease fire in northeast syria will cross over to james in just a short while will get more reaction and analysis from the united nations but 1st

let's take you over to as in a hooded because she's joining us from hollywood and before kelly crowds in oh we were listening to the presidential spokesman earlier wants presidential spokesman abraham callen he was speaking from ankara and he was basically saying that the operation is going to continue as planned really echoing the words that we heard earlier from his foreign minister as well as from his president. yes reiterating that it's not going to stop but also you know expressing frustration turkey is increasingly frustrated at its western allies in his words it is just incredible that our western friends are choosing a terrorist organization p k k as an ally over a fellow nato member turkey so yes turkish officials have not been able to rally international support for its operation inside syria there are 2 objectives for that operation according to callan one is to rid the border area from the syrian

kurdish armed group why p.g. which is the backbone of the kurdish led syrian democratic forces so he's saying that this will continue really callin as well as the president or to god asking questions to the international community why are you so concerned about what happens here when we didn't see this global condemnation when the u.s. led coalition for example was carrying out the fight against i still in recall in the syrian city of brick because well as in the iraqi city of mosul when hundreds if not thousands of civilians were killed in the airstrikes why was there no global outrage earlier today the turkish president also asking why the world has not condemned turkish rocket fire that landed on a long turkey's a border towns where more than 20 turkish the billions were killed so this really has been a very frustrating point for turkey because this following this operation we are seeing really a deterioration in the relationship between turkey and the united states yes they

were already strained to before the latest operation turkey repeatedly accusing the united states why do you keep arming the why p.g. and syria why do you keep cooperating and using them as your allies on the ground so yes we have to wait to see what happens when the u.s. delegation led by led by the vice president arrives in and court tomorrow for more talks with turkish officials already the united states has slack. sanctions and we heard the u.s. ambassador to the united nations a short while ago reiterate what the united states wants it wants a ceasefire but the message from from the turks is that no there will be no cease fire and then just one more question for you before we let you get out of the rain just bring us right up to speed with what's happening on the ground in the turkish military operation and what kind of resistance are they facing. they're facing stiff resistance in the border town of ras al-ain the battle is entering its 2nd week the kurdish led the syrian democratic forces have an

advantage they have tunnels they have trenches so it's quite difficult for the advancing forces to take ground in to hold the ground and that battle is not just about a border town the russell lane is supposed to be part of the zone that turkey wants to create the safest on to allow refugees millions of refugees to return so the initial phase of this operation has still not been completed what turkey wants is a 120 kilometer stretch of territory 30 kilometers deep inside syria to be the initial phase of this operation it's not just that it's facing opposition from russia country that it should be working with in syria the russian military police deploying on frontlines in a clear message to turkey you cannot advance serious differences between those 2 countries as well turkey's president had to go on holding a telephone conversation with putin late yesterday the russian president has been invited to moscow but there's still no date for that visit and really unprecedented

criticism from russia telling turkey that what you're doing in syria is unacceptable we're not accepting this and russia explaining what would be acceptable they want turkey to cooperate with the syrian government troops which will really be a radical shift for turkey so unprepared really an unprecedented situation new realities on the ground the syrian government back in the northeast of the country and russia pressuring turkey not just to stop this operation but to end its military presence in northern syria all together and we know that at least one the humanitarian organizations in a that is my friends here have reportedly stopped their operations in northeast syria what can you tell us about the situation when it comes to civilians and those people that have had to leave and have been displaced many times over. yes some aid organizations have announced that they're suspending operations but so far the united nations has not they issued a statement saying that they are still operating in northeast syria providing help

to the people you and says 160000 people have been displaced in the latest conflict already this area a number of displaced people already live in this area vulnerable people people who need assistance but people are also scared of what's going to happen for example today in the eastern province of dead a zoo or also an area half of that province is under the control of the kurdish led syrian democratic forces people there are quite worried that the s.d.f. is going to hand over the territory to the syrian regime today there were protests in the street they were carrying american flags european flags calling on the world not to allow the syrian government and their iranian allies because this is really a stronghold for iranian backed groups in syria to enter the area they are worried that they will be arrested that they will be detained because they engaged in opposition activities so in some areas in the north they don't want to see the syrian government restore its sovereignty because they are afraid they would rather

see the turkish supported syrian opposition groups enter their area so the situation is messy on the ground front lines are changing people are worried so it's not just a question of people who are homeless people who don't have food and don't have shelter they're worried about their security. ok we'll leave it there for now thank you for wrapping it all up for us from chuck i will take you back to ankara now to listen in some more to what abraham callen the presidential spokesman of turkey is saying haitian traffic at the moment the opposition is very clear about assad's regime president expressed many times there's no change in this our aim is . to bring geneva and a sauna process is together and to build and need constitution and then in. and then in terror and government and then by this way the syrian public will

choose a government that day wants. work on this will continue to go back to your 1st question american robert over american security adviser robert over and of course we had a meeting and this is the hottest the top hottest topic is operation to peace operation and we spoke to spoke about the scope of the operation of course as you know on the 6th of. october our president had a meeting with the president of united states and he explained that the safe zone. should be built together but we could not have the results that we wanted from those meetings. and he didn't. ever again call in the a presidential spokesman. speaking in ankara answering reporters' questions and just a reminder that he is speaking head off a visit by a high level u.s.

delegation to turkey that includes the vice president mike pence as well as the u.s. secretary of state mike pail we do expect them to be arriving at some point tomorrow they're saying they're heading to turkey to try and negotiate a cease fire let's just remind you of what happened a few moments ago though at the united nations and there was a u.n. security council meeting on syria on the northeast of syria that had taken place it was called for by you member states let's bring in our diplomatic editor james bays that meeting now ended james we've heard from her is just talk us through what's been said. yes well we do have a joint statement from the u.n. security council which is something they couldn't agree when they met on the it's quite limited in what. they are managing to say to the international community expressing their concern about the humanitarian situation and expressing their

concern about eisel and eisel fighters in the area and i still prisoners clearly the e.u. i think would have liked this to go further and certainly we had an e.u. statement that followed the president of the security council who is only empowered really to give certain words that went a little bit further because the u.s. asked for turkey to stop its operation and then we had a statement too from the u.s. ambassador all these words in some way somewhat undercuts i think by some of the i think it's fair to say confused comments coming out earlier on from the oval office with the president of the united states who in many ways started this whole series of events in chain coming up and saying the current situation for the u.s. was strategically brilliant at the same time as the u.s. has put its name to a security council statement saying that they have concerns about the situation so

u.s. policy not for the 1st time here on syria seems in a pretty confused place we also heard from vastly in the benzine who's the russian ambassador coming to talk to us at the end of this meeting making it quite clear that russia doesn't see any clashes particularly with turkey saying that president urged. is speaking with president putin very very regularly about the current situation also making it clear that they see that the goals that russia and turkey and iran have had with regard to the so-called the starner and such a process continues and ambassador burns you make it clear that all members of the security council supported the endgame of that process which is supposed to take place at the end of this month on the 30th of october or when the const. committee for syria is supposed to meet in geneva he said the security council of very keen

that there is no delay in that political side of this process and he doesn't believe it will be in any way delayed by the ongoing and fast moving military developments on the turkish syrian border jim so in the same as this was the 2nd meeting that was core the by the european members what happens next in sort of the international arena when it comes to turkey in northeast syria. well i don't think much more than this clearly this was a pretty limited statement of the security council managed to come up with it's what what's known in the jargon as press elements it's not even a formal statement it's a agreed form of words of language that the president of the security council can explain things to the international community an expression of concern beyond that no real agreement and remember the dynamics on this file on syria since the war the

long bloody war in syria started 8 naf years ago has been one of endless division and i don't think that really changes remember that we are all focusing on northeast syria remember that there is still the situation in northwest syria in it live province where the russians and the syrian government have been bombarding that province and most other players in the international community say they've been deliberately targeting hospitals and medical facilities so this war is impact potentially in its final stays is in northern syria but 2 distinct parts of the northern front here of syria where this is playing out and james on the issue you were mentioning a moment ago and in fact while that u.n. security council meeting was going on we were also. so listening to him callin he's the presidential spokesman for to one end and what he said on the issue of eisel is

that these source countries need to take responsibility for those eisel members i mean this this issue in particular has been a real concern for the international community. a real current issue of concern and a real issue of division and there are some members of the international community who say yes that's exactly what should happen these prisoners shouldn't have been left in these camps guarded by the kurds by the s.d.f. they should have been repacholi to their home countries and taken injustice should have been carried out there because that's where they 1st went from those home countries particularly in europe to go and fight for eisel but there's not agreement on this there are certainly a number of european countries that have stripped the prisoners of their original nationalities and it makes this a very very big problem how you deal with them and that's why they've been

languishing under the control of the s.d.f. for so long no arrangements have been made before this operation for a transfer of custody from the s.d.f. to anyone else and clearly it is and it is an issue of ongoing worry i think for the international community what happens to these people talks out there of potentially maybe some of these prisoners being transferred across the border to iraq but there are concerns that iraq has the death penalty and many of these european nations are nations that are totally opposed to the death penalty as is the u.n. there's a stated policy opposed to the death penalty talk at various points i've heard among ambassadors of some sort of international mechanism some sort of international tribunals but no one's agreed really on on the mechanism for that and it's the sort of thing that would take months months even years to set up and for

now real question marks about the custody of those prisoners ok james will leave it there for now thank you for that update from the u.n. let's cross over to particle is joining us live. from the white house and patty you know the u.s. delegation including the secretary of state in the vice president will be leaving shortly they'll be on their way to turkey and we've heard from both trump as well as the secretary of states yet these messages seem to be quite different just talk us 1st through what we've heard from trump most recently and i will get on to the secretary of state. i want to set the scene for you though we're watching india talian and the u.s. delegation just enter. the room in the white house where the president of the u.s. and the president of italy will be giving a press conference but yes you mentioned there are mixed messages secretary of state was on fox news fox business channel and he said we expect them to go for

cease fire vice president mike pence just walking into the room he doesn't leave for about another 6 hours or so and he is expected to meet with president heard one of the other thing we heard the president he was in the oval office and it's usually just a what we call pool spray just video but he is on the defensive and he wanted to take questions and so. i can see right now the president of the united states we are going to do opening statements with real quick before we take that things he said that were shocking to a lot of people on capitol hill that he was strategically brilliant to pull u.s. troops out because now they're safe even though there are some very dangerous obstructions going he said the kurds are much safer now obviously not the case they are under attack he said it's not our problem so that is a lot of people in capitol hill say what is the president thinking is he sending his vice president over there again something that is a gormley done sending the message that he doesn't care basically he actually said

this is between turkey and syria to figure out when he would talk about how there's a lot of area to play with and then he went on any tack the kurds say they're not angels so very controversial statements from the president he is on the defensive he's making his opening statement. for questions you can bet if the president follows suit he's going to double down on what he said wait to hear if he says anything about the northeast to syria but let me ask you this i mean is the sense that the president would be willing to sense to high level delegation on short notice to turkey if you wasn't pretty confident that they were going to come back with some sort of agreement or understanding from the turks. normally you would think that was in fact the case but the fact the president came out and said he wasn't going to meet with the vice president he would only talk to donald trump you didn't reverse course but you even have that out there when the vice president's travel is already been and now it's highly unusual so here at the white

house they'll say things like well we wouldn't send the vice president if we didn't expect success but early on is pretty much doubled down on his own as you know you said there's going to be no ceasefire he's going to get that buffer zone that he's looking for so this is politically dangerous for the president let's think about what he's told his supporters is that if he was elected if he's in the white house where he is right now about to take questions that america would be respected in the world stage what message will it send to his face if his old vice president his own secretary of state go to a nato ally ask for the cease fire only to be rejected it's going to be damaging for him potentially with his base here at home it's already been hugely damaging for him with republicans on capitol hill and it can't understate understate the importance of this this is a party that doesn't their own president they are afraid he's going to target them with tweets they're radio silence whenever he says anything controversial that has not been the case with this we saw lindsey graham come out and he say if the

president said that kind of messages that sunday before he said his vice president senator mitt romney came out and said i don't understand why you're sending the vice president that sort of. out of the barn they tried to shut the barn door after they're gone so he is getting a lot of criticism i think you can tell that it's bothering him just look at his twitter feed pretty much every hour he's sending out a tweet defending this move that created this crisis in syria so again the president doubling down but his critics are not letting this go away and the comments he made say that the kurds are safer now and that they're not angels when they're being characterized by republicans on the hill as a longtime allies who died in the fighting. i so it helped us defeat the caliphate this these comments are not going to go over well ok patty thank you for that update from washington and we'll bring in zain just for a minute or so just to sort of commons in on what we expect to happen when that u.s. delegation that party was talking about actually arrives in turkey because if the

turks really don't sound like they're in any mood to negotiate according to the officials that we've heard from today. yes no mood to negotiate very defiant and really the united states using this threat of more sanctions to stop the offensive the message from here is we will not stop it at the end of the day what leverage does the united states have inside syria already they've abandoned their allies the kurdish let syrian democratic forces who are now allied with damascus the real boss the really in syria right now is russia so if turkey is going to push ahead with that offensive it will have to make a deal with russia not to united states and what is happening right now on the grounds in a because each time we speak to you it just seems like the battle lines are shifting. well there is the battle for rasa lane it's now going to enter its 2nd week a border town

a relatively small town but the turkish led forces have been facing difficulties because the kurdish led syrian democratic forces are mounting a defense using tunnels and trenches which really makes it hard for any advancing army to enter the town and russell line is key for turkey because it's part of these so-called safe zone that they want to create in the north east of syria east of the euphrates the initial phase of this military operation is still not over the initial phase involves capturing 120 kilometers along the border already the turkish led forces have captured approximately 100 kilometers 30 kilometers deep they've managed to do that in some areas but the syrian government has returned to the northeast corner of syria and they are taking up positions on the perimeter of the southern perimeter of that so-called safe zone which is the m 4 international highway so it is turkey is facing a lot of obstacles 1st of all the fighting and the syrian government's return

because if turkey and syria and the syrian army clash we're talking about a war right now turkey defines what is happening inside syria as an anti-terrorism operation and of course there is russia russia is key russia is the main power broker and if this is laying claim to territory it is deploying its military troops along front lines in a clear message to turkey do not advance serious differences between 2 countries who should be working together we understand that the president of russia invited the turkish president to visit moscow the turkish president was the one who initiated the phone call called putin late yesterday there's still no date for that meeting russian media talking about the possible meeting at the end of october so serious differences turkey really finding itself isolated we heard the presidential advisor spokesperson. alan a short while ago very frustrated and saying it's so surprising that our nato

allies our western friends have chosen a terrorist organization the p.k. k. over a fellow nato member turkey as an ally so turkey has not been able to garner international support for its operation in syria that operation has deteriorated relations with a nato ally of the united states and now serious differences with russia ok zain thank you for that update from a check how they well at 700 hours g.m.t. you're watching algis 0 i'm dating obligated diplomatic it's a poor matic pressure has intensified significantly in the past hour for the turkish president. to hold his military offensive in northern syria on the u.s. president donald trump whose troop withdrawal is blamed for triggering the crisis is sending a diplomatic mission to ankara while the u.n. security council warned of a deteriorating humanitarian situation after meeting in new york president are due on though has vowed to keep fighting until all of his country's goals have been achieved particularly.