rory thank you for that well let's get the situation now in belfast because northern ireland has been critical needs bark and now outlines that position in northern ireland boris johnson is 45 votes short of getting his plan over the line in parliament he needs every single one of the 10 democratic unionist m.p.'s in westminster to back it and what we've seen over the course of the morning in multiple statements is that they will not back it for various different reasons they've said that it damages the integrity of the united kingdom they've raised deep concerns about northern ireland being seen as a different tax. arrangement a different tax area compared to the rest of the united kingdom they've also raised some concerns about how the northern ireland assembly here behind me will function in all of this as well they have raised concerns about boris johnson's plan to keep northern ireland more aligned with the single markets i.e. more aligned with the republic of ireland than with the united kingdom going

forward in order to make that arrangement democratic boris johnson has said well there will be a vote here at the northern irish parliament to make sure that people here want it but that will be based upon a simple majority and the d.p.'s just really worried that the nationalists through their locks in a power sharing government with will do everything possible to push for more economic integration with the republic of ireland as opposed to allowing for the current situation to continue which is a situation that allows 30 members of the northern ireland assembly to complain get together and potentially veto anything any legislation they don't like coming out of westminster so in all the d.p. i just would be worried about a $37.00 from their hands and about what they feel is something of a creeping an exception from the public or violent when it comes to the future here for the northern ireland. let's turn now to the situation with turkey and syria a high level u.s.

delegation is in ankara hoping to convince the turkish president to hold his military campaign in northeastern syria u.s. vice president mike pence and secretary of state mark pump have been holding talks with turkish president richard type meanwhile turkish forces and kurdish fighters continue to battle in the border town of ras al-ain considered a strategic point for both syrian government forces moving north are a major obstacle for turkey and president bashar al assad is vowing to respond to what he calls turkish aggression with all the time it means available cinema has this update now from the turkish capital. turkey's presidency is hosting 2 gas both from a delegation from u.s. and at delegation from russia it will be interesting to see after those negotiations being held inside whether church is going to stop this military operation as the united states requests but of course everything depends on how

they will bargain around the stable because they're also sanctions that they white house has been threatening to impose against turkey and which targets the turkish officials and turkey's defense industry in particular also on the other hand the russian delegation who met with presidential spokesperson ibrahim cullen they both a both sides have agreed that both sides will continue their fight against what they call terrorism in order to protect serious territorial integrity and we've been hearing that russia is trying to bring in a turkish and syrian government's together during such a summit and that will be held on october 20th to incite you to talk about the constitutional process it will be interesting to see because it russia has the has the stronger hand in the battle on the ground in syria and it's gives them a leverage but turkey is concerned about the alliances between p.y. idea and russia. and syria is syrian regime but one thing is important and today it turkey's foreign minister did elevate an interview to b.b.c.

in which he's sad that turkey is fine with the russian and syrian forces together move moving the wipe out from the safe zone turkey is aiming for 30 kilometers deep still ahead on the al-jazeera believe use the longest serving president wraps up his controversy over election campaign to see sinks in office. hello that the sunshine has returned across much of central areas of china some cloud again in the last few as but the rain really has dried up so some good guys along the south coast up into shanghai and as a say despite the cloud it's a fairly dry day on friday now we have got a bit more rain in the fall southwest and also still lingering along these the northern coastal areas of vietnam but even here as we head into south today it does

tend to dry up and then we've got more of this case guys so 29 in hong kong and a very nice 24 in shanghai feeling fresh but quite as here it is across into hong kong and then in india we've been talking of course about the monsoon rains and they are on their way out there continuing to actually with droid can see the keris guys in the last few plenty of activity the across central and southern areas particularly across into the west on into carola also sri lanka has seen some rather heavy spells of rain there and actually friday on into saturday we'll see more rain once again across into west bengal as a say the line of this rain has not been brought really fall southwards but even so on saturday there's rains once again pushing into more central states i mean could still see some scattered thunderstorms in mumbai but a feeding tube out with a high of 31. my fast simmons' were all. taken by the chinese company all over to stay with my

son stay with my wife and solo one this is really human rights abuses of our time we decided to talk about it. just. tell the world. the truth about china systematic repression of the week is. tell the world coming soon on al-jazeera. you're watching al-jazeera ramadhan are the top stories this hour u.k. prime minister barak johnson is appealing to m.p.'s back hard to back his brakes

a deal that was agreed after intense negotiations in brussels johnson has thanked e.u. leaders for this 4th european commission president strong for you is calling it a fair and balanced to bring but it still needs ratification from both the e.u. and the u.k. it's britain's opposition leader germany corben has already spoken out against that record saying it doesn't meet labor's to bouts or expectations and northern ireland's democratic unionist party which backs the conservatives has released a statement saying it cannot support johnson's plan a parliamentary vote is expected saturday. he was vice president but pence and secretary of state. have been holding talks with the turkish president the u.s. delegation is trying to convince richard to want to call off his offensive in the north east in syria. the us ambassador to the european union is currently testifying that's in the ongoing impeachment inquiry against donald trump is expected gordon sunderland will be questioned about his takes to. messages with the

u.s. ambassador to ukraine discussing trump's if it to pressure ukraine to investigate his rival joe biden now the house intelligence chairman says testimony transcripts will be my public castro joins us live now from washington d.c. and just take us through this sunderland. testimony at the inquiry and and what it possibly could reveal about how much he may have known about this plan to try to push ukraine to open an investigation or investigate joe biden and his son. right and that is the big question stan in fact it's the one that launched this impeachment inquiry in the 1st place what was the reason that president donald trump temporarily withheld u.s. military aid to ukraine it appears if you look at the timing that trump may have been using that as leverage to get ukraine to open up an investigation into his political rival in an essence using u.s. foreign policy as

a tool for his personal political gain and that is why ambassador ford and someone who is testifying now behind closed doors is a key witness in this impeachment inquiry this is happening in confidentiality but we do have a coffee of sun lens opening statement and if you allow me to paraphrase it widely he in essence says that he had no idea what the president's motivation to withhold that money was but if it had been to use as personal political leverage that it would be wrong he also goes on to say it was strange that the president directed him and other u.s. diplomats to deal with the president's own personal attorney rudy giuliani going forward in handling ukraine and that he did as giuliani requested because that's what the president wanted and that the bastard some land did not ask any questions when told by giuliani that ukraine had to specifically mention a company in which president trumps political rival had

a stake in in this anti-corruption statement that trump wanted so in essence pleading the 5th that he was not aware of what the motivation was from the white house that he thought it was strange but that his hands appear to be clean of it that's the gist of the testimony that he's expected to be sharing now with investigators stan. just in a broader sense what this is revealing because as you say there are questions about what someone might have known he says he was a. where we've already heard from fiona hill who was the the russia expert in her testimony she had left before that telephone conversation but she did raise concerns about it john bolton hasn't testified but he of course has been quoted as saying that he had had reservations about this is well so what is it revealing about the inner workings at that highest level of the trump chain. what it reveals really is the fact that they're pointing their fingers at each other

stand really that that appears to be the narrative here with ambassador of someone today also mentioning that phone call you just brought up the phone call between president trump and president's olinsky of ukraine in which as we've now seen in the publicly released memo summarizing this phone call that trumped asked him to open up an investigation on biden not his but his political rival in the u.s. and that leading up to that conversation that u.s. ambassadors were trying to dangle a white house invitation as the reward for opening investigation on biden well it's revealing today in sunderland's opening statement he said that he did not see this transcript of the call until we did as members of the public and the press he says that the briefings and the summaries he'd received at this call prior to the public release only mention that it was a call about anti-corruption and that the call between the 2 leaders had gone well

so this is also an avenue that democrats surely will be pressing the ambassador on why was he not allowed to see the full description of the call if you'll recall that there was a whistleblower that started all of this saying that this call had happened and accusing the white house of burying the transcripts hiding it deliberately from other administration officials perhaps sunderland and other state department officials themselves knowing that it had a with of something wrong when that sand predator castros law 1st there in washington d.c. starting with the impeachment inquiry in a key figure in that inquiry us democratic congressman elijah cummings has died aged 60 days as chairman of the house of the saddam reform committee cummings led multiple investigations into president trump's governmental dealings cummings passionately advocated for the pool it is black majority district of maryland he died in hospital juge of complications from longstanding health problems. in hong

kong the leader they carry lamb has been shouted down for a 2nd consecutive day in the territories legislature opposition members protested in the china call for her to step down at least 10 people were removed by security lam was trying to answer questions regarding her annual policy address she was forced to deliver that speech through video link on wednesday after the legislative session was cancelled some broad probe aging politicians have condemned those outbursts against land in the legislature. had always think that the order hong kong citizens would not misstep anyone to use a while and in any way also we all also know that while this cannot solve any problem still as a legislative council i don't think that any electrical members should use any kind of wild lands including. old physical law and in the chambre how to express their will. catalonia is regional chief is calling for

a new vote on independence from spain within 2 years they have been violent protests over the past 3 days after the jailing of 9 separatist leaders sagnac is their. fire and fury in the heart of the city for the 3rd night in a row. crowds of mostly young people chanting the streets will always be ours till the anger erupted to control some taunting the police who in turn responded quickly as they attempted to disperse the crowds. the tension in the catalan region is at an all time high following the sentencing of 9 pro independence politicians and activists for sedition over their roles in the 2017 illegal referendum in an attempt to calm the situation spain's prime minister made this appeal to the catalan leader. of the millions of people live in catalonia and

they have the right to live securely and in peace with the right to their own political ideas but that is incompatible with the conduct of violent groups are put at risk the peace of their cities the property of their neighbors and the safety of citizens. earlier it had begun as a grassroots protest or civil disobedience could just take a surreal turn the same way as people gathered in one of the main avenues throw toilet paper all over the streets but the problem is is that there has been a fine line last couple of days to be trying to fact 70 violence where the jailed cattle and politicians condemned the use of violent tactics the catalan president daughter came under criticism for failing to call out the behavior of the rioters is focus instead the roach towards independence. we came to shore support for these marches that are taking place in catalonia to

reject the sentence and to support our right to self-determination and civil social and political rights endangered by this sentence. the issue of secession has long hung over the region it goes to the heart of people's identities here but it is also a deeply political question and with next month's general elections ahead all sides will be vying for voters rather than resulting cattle in question. al-jazeera barcelona. the longest serving president in bolivia's history has wrapped up his campaign ahead of sunday's general election even morales is being challenged by carlos mencia he led the country before him from 2003 to 2005 john homan has more from the capital. this is 7 more or less last push his final campaign event for sunday's election in bolivia is already the longest running in the country. he's

running for a. jackie believe me those today believe he has 2 paths return to the past or continue with our change surely we must continue with our change next sunday don't abandon me you have never about me we want to continue working together to show that bolivia is full of hope. the people here who support him making him because he's consistently been able to grow the economy and significantly. has lifted them and he's the most are your future he's also particularly used the country's wealth in natural gas for social programs. has built schools he's made things better it wasn't like that before i met. but this time it is me who pushed harder than ever and that's because many people in bolivia believe he's a roading democracy change the constitution to be able to run again despite

a referendum in which would make sure it's a limited narrow majority said that they can they don't want the people that don't want to see war of the rallies would be hoping that his nearest rival. a centrist candidate will triumph in sunday's election but never were is remains the clear front runner even. predicted to go to a 2nd round. this is al jazeera and these are the top stories u.k. prime minister barres johnson is appealing to m.p.'s back holland to back his brakes a deal that was agreed after intense negotiations in brussels johnson has thanked the leaders for their support your bank mr president is calling it a fair and balanced agreement the u.k. parliament will discuss the deal in a special session on saturday it needs ratification from both the e.u. and u.k.

. i hope very much not speaking of elected representatives that my fellow n.p.c. in westminster do not come together to get bricks it done to get this excellent deal over the line and to deliver for exit without any more delay so that we can focus on the priorities of the british people improving our health service investing in pretty 1000 more police lifting up a living wage and many many other things were britain's opposition leader jeremy corbin has already spoken out against the accord saying it doesn't meet labor's demands or expectations and northern ireland's democratic unionist party which backs the conservatives has released a statement saying it cannot support johnson's plan a parliamentary vote is expected on saturday. u.s. vice president biden pence and u.s. secretary of state have been holding talks with the turkish president in ankara the

u.s. delegation is trying to convince red chip typo to want to cool off he's offensive in northeastern syria the u.s. ambassador to the european union is currently testifying in the ongoing impeachment inquiry against donald trump it's expected gordon sunderland will be questioned about his text messages with the u.s. ambassador to ukraine discussing trumps if it to pressure ukraine to investigate his rival joe biden the house intelligence chairman says testimony transcripts will be made public hong kong's leader kerry lamb has been shouted down for a 2nd consecutive day in the territories legislature opposition members protested in the chamber and called for her to step down at least 10 people were removed by security lam was trying to answer questions regarding her annual policy address she was forced to deliver that speech through video link on wednesday after the legislative session was cancelled well those are the headlines the news continues

here on al-jazeera after the strike. yes there are. they don't believe in the 2 state solution the do you still believe in the 2 state solution we listen what i said was that pakistan would never start a war and to walk we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories of the 00. year in the stream what's the danger of facial recognition technology civil liberties groups say privacy shouldn't trump protection but government and police argue that attack ensure safety what do you think. today will look at how major cities are taking very different approaches to facial recognition and explore how the chinese government is using this technology to track citizens but 1st how does

facial recognition even work check out this clip from a documentary i filed for a.j. plus. facial recognition software creates data points that compare facial features databases are built from driver's licenses mug shots and surveillance video. the initial technology was developed in the 1960 s. today it's replacing fingerprinting and police line. facial recognition databases used by law enforcement in the u.s. including 117000000 adults that's one in 3 americans. san francisco california is widely known as attack but last week city officials voted to ban the use of facial recognition by police and other government agencies proponents of the tax say it could help prevent or solve crimes but critics contend these systems are prone to error pointing to cases in which they appeared biased

against women and people of color if adopted widely they argue facial recognition could be abused to target rights activists or marginalized communities. here with us to unpack the debate mab cagle serves as a technology and civil liberties attorney at the american civil liberties union of northern california and london silky carlos' the director of big brother watch an organization tackling issues related to privacy and technology and last but not least in new york city a little hey newman is a security reporter for wired she focuses on information security digital privacy and hacking welcome to the stream everyone so here i want to start with you you know we heard a little bit there in the intro from that clip i played that outlined kind of the basics of facial recognition technology but what is it and why does it seem so you pick with us today facial recognition day it was people to be identified in real time by surveillance cameras that most of which look like ordinary surveillance

cameras and it completely changes the nature of placing so it enables the police potentially to identify and track thousands of people at any time which puts an awful lot of power in state hands and i think really rebalances the relationship between a citizen and the state so you know you said in your piece that it's replacing fingerprinting with fingerprinting a police officer has to ask you. 'd to print you have to have interaction they have to have probable cause some kind of purpose with facial recognition we're all being subjected to this kind of a petrol police lineup we're all being treated as suspects so really help us break this down just even a little bit further than it was an excellent definition from silkie there but just for our international audience so when we're talking about patient recognition what for you makes this even more chilling perhaps than c.c.t.v. and what's the difference between facial recognition and using some of the apps on our phone to either unlock our phone or to use facial recognition features on some

of the apps we know and love. yeah i think that pervasiveness as he says that comes from the fact that our face is just sort of out there in the world and we're not necessarily choosing what sees it or what it interacts with you know when we use it in an app or to authenticate something that we intend or to go into a building that we want to go into or something like that you know it's an interaction where we're making a choice when we're being sort of passively viewed through cameras that are placed in public or sort of semi you know public private spaces that we're just moving through in our daily lives that that becomes kind of out of control where we're just walking along and our faces like leading in front of us in this new way so matt what concerns that san francisco lawmakers specific lee have when it came to racial recognition. they're concerned about

a lot of what's already been said you know facial recognition face surveillance provides the government with an unprecedented power to track individuals and groups 'd with hardly lifting a finger on the in terms of human effort you can i mean imagine a world where you step outside your door and the government instantly knows who you are where you are who you're sociate ing with us and even the expressions on your face whether whether it's correct or it's just a guess this is a dangerous signal and she and some cisco at the heart of innovation here recognize that this technology has dangers known 'd dangers right now if it's inaccurate it's dangerous and if it's perfectly accurate it's dangerous to our democratic rights matt so they stepped up and they acted sorry i didn't mean to interrupt you i thought you were done but as you were talking i couldn't help but wonder as you were outlining all those things you know my i phone and apple knows all those friends and even just without the you know face i did technology that exists but it's not just lawmakers in san francisco of course that are concerned sarah rashid

tweeted in saying i am for the ban not only is that and they said way to profile people but there is no scientific evidence that facial recognition has helped improve safety or deter criminal activity i would love to hear from you say ok after we watch this video from brian hoffer he sent to ty's he is the man who drafted the law that banned san francisco agencies of course from using this technology take a listen to what he said. i think we all intuitively understand the dangers of this technology that right now today it would be really reckless to use it because of its really high error rate but the bigger concern is actually long term but it's going to become perfect surveillance that we will not be able to move about society freely i think it would obliterate our 1st amendment protections like the freedom of speech religion assembly and association i can't detach myself from my face i can't. leave my house without my my my face and everywhere i go on

oh no i'll be tried. so here give me your name sounds so it's similar to me i meant to ask willie let me i'm curious your thoughts. yeah i mean i think as you said there's just a really cumulative effect of this and i also really appreciate it matt's point that you know whether this technology succeeds in becoming highly accurate which it currently is not or whether it stays in the state that it's in it's 'd really dangerous either way because you're either sort of potentially misidentifying people are having you know people get involved who are totally unrelated to something or the situation that we were hearing from in that clip where you're constantly correct being tracked so it's kind of either way there's just this. serious concerns so i want to posit something for all of you and her audience on the flip side of this and get your thoughts on it so we reached out to

a local sheriff's office sheriff's office here in the u.s. who their department is using facial recognition in the cloud you can take a look at this web site here recognition mission can be used to identify suspects quickly now this is the washington county sheriff's office and they actually sent us a statement on what they're using it for and how it's gone for them and they say we can provide that facial recognition has been a successful tool for us and it has several success stories one thing to understand is the facial recognition software we use is not the deciding factor when identifying individuals if we input a picture of an individual and there is a result and investigator takes the information as a lead this is a human based decision not a computer based decision and so when you hear this and you hear the explanation for why it might be necessary what do you make about. well for starters we know that from recent reporting by the georgetown privacy center that many police

departments are actually misusing a surveillance and facial recognition systems and that these systems don't make us safer so to build even a straightforward seeming face surveillance system you need to get hundreds of thousands of photos of innocent individuals who never consented to be part of the face surveillance data base and really right now as we would as other guests have said it's inaccurate technology it's biased technology against people of color and particularly women of color and many of the critical public safety benefits are theoretical but what we do know is that it's it's inaccurate and that departments are being transparent about how they're using it there was a report recently in gizmodo that actually debunked some of washingtonians claims and found that they're not even following amazon's own guidance and it's a very poultry week guidance they're not even following that weak guidance and using this system that doesn't make anyone more safe. so i want to push on just a little bit here in this conversation and move on to the united kingdom because

police there and police department had been conducting 3 a facial recognition camera or earlier this year metropolitan police in london find a man 90 british pound that's about $114.00 when he protested having his picture taken to say ok talk to us about this case because you actually bear you saw with your own eyes. yeah it is it was really shocking and i think really speaks to. this new power imbalance that that occurs when police have facial recognition. a man came out of the train station and saw a group of us standing with placards in the flats letting them know that the surveillance cameras in the area were actually facial recognition cameras and a very very small act of persistency maybe pulled the bottom of his jumper up his chin and we had been told by paint police offices and.

watching how people really were responding to us informing them of the facial recognition cameras so very quickly he was sweep's by a team of police offices they demanded to know why he had dead to cover his face they just wanted his id they really riled him and he was about aggravated 'd and they gave him a fine and this is sent chills across british society actually has been the clip of what happened it's been viewed millions of times online and i think people are now starting to wake up to what's happening in the u.k. with this technology and become outraged about it this trot so-called trial by the piece has been going on for 4 years now and we've been campaigning and was still campaigning for it to come to an end because this is incredibly undemocratic and democratic it's incredibly on british to see a massive a and install like this raising people's civil liberties and really changing the nature of sense of society and freedom in the u.k.

you know matt it's interesting we've outlined some of the dangers and you know a lot of people who are watching live on you tube right now are agreeing with you and also you know pointing to other things emery for example saying i think the technology on its own isn't the danger thing is it's the intent of the people who are using it it could vastly improve our lives or turn our countries into police states i just want to scroll down a little bit in this you tube chat he also goes on to say the same time the riches of silicon valley who are developing all these technologies are forbidding their own kids from using it so i think this is a sign that these technologies should be regulated your thoughts on that yes so 2 points 1st. these systems once they're built and deployed the harm will be we won't be able to rein the harm and that's exactly unfortunately what we've started to see him places like china history of surveillance histories around the united states and in other nations is a history of surveillance technologies being turned against people of color against

activists and against immigrants we can fully expect governments to do the same with a surveillance technology and that's exactly why a coalition in sarah cisco not just of people who understand technology but 25 different organizations ranging from or exact represent immigrants rights to some racial justice to the homeless to even criminal defendants a diverse coalition is what came together here and said all of our lives depend on the freedom to walk down the street safely without being tracked all of our lives depend on the freedom to not be logged into a government database because we're advocating for our own rights in this democratic society and so while census those leaders recognize that here in the heart of technology they need to play safeguards in place for new dangerous technologies what really drove this was the community and a diverse community and that sort of movement i think is really important point that is possible everywhere that is not just something that can happen here is there cisco and we're already seeing the domino effect places here in california

but also across the united states are considering similar similar bands lending and i think the idea and terms of you know potentially until it if our police saying is that perhaps there could be a way if the technology were accurate enough and if there were enough insight into sort of how these algorithms work and how decisions are being made in a really granular way at each stage that it might be possible to set limits on how you can sort of query one of these databases or years one of these services so you so police are able to sort of get their match or get their thing that they need without the cascading effect. but because as matt said once the systems are set up they're there and they're persistent it's difficult to know how to set those parameters and i think that's why i was the advocates are calling for this sort of pause you know particularly within the u.s. this week but in general because there needs to be some time sort of societal as

a global community to discuss how the use restrictions might be possible if there are possible so you you mentioned something that happened this week and so i want to let our audience in on its own when say the house oversight and reform committee in the u.s. how the 1st hearing on recognition technology to examine the impact on civil rights and civil liberties i want you to have a listen to the founder of the organization algorithmic justice league and she's speaking to congress about the systems and this in this clip in particular caught on c.-span here in the u.s. she's speaking to a representative of the standard has to take a look at this tweet and britain now the exchange here because it's so interesting a.l.c. starts with are algorithms the most effective on women some going to scroll down and have you listen to a little part of that. we need i heard your opening statement and we saw that these algorithms are effective to different degrees so are the most effective on

women. are they most effective on people of color absolutely not are they most effective on people of different gender expression no in fact the exclude them so what different graphic is it mostly effective on white men and who are the primary engineers and designers of these algorithms definitely white men so so filthy here outside of the u.s. where you can see what it is the discussion is and that's happening in the u.s. what do you make of this in these systems and the inherent bias is that some would say are built in. it's a big problem and it needs to be really careful examined we have similar concerns in the u.k. but we have pressured the pace to do some independent testing of the algorithms that using that using a japanese company would any see. and we've asked if they understand what ice is

like be inherent in the technology and they have said basically that that that they're not interested but there's also issues with what kind of what shifts of being put together as well so when we 1st saw this technology being used that looking hill carnival which is a black british celebration in london. and that's what this surveillance you know it was that community that we used as guinea pigs for this today and it's 2 years in a right which is just just incredible so it's you know it was a matter of not only how biased. but the people that lisa talking with it but i also think that some of the technology issues for all right and i share other guests is that actually the better this becomes the more perfect a tool for oppression it becomes as well you know most definitely and you know it's worth mentioning that you know i have a gauge of kind of how much our audience is responding to each show that we do here

at the stream and this one has tons of twitter threads and tons of comments on you tube so i think you know it's generally something that a lot of people are concerned about wondering how many of the questions are left unanswered very quickly want to share history with you before we move on to our next portion of this show an organic african feminist saying what worries me the most is that we're asking what can we do a question about developing new technologies rather than also asking why are we doing this and what is motivating us to do this not asking the latter enables the facade of value neutrality that goes on into a very lengthy you know thread that you can check out on twitter of course for now though let's dive a little deeper into this conversation let's look at how the chinese government is using a sophisticated facial recognition network to track its own citizens with a focus on the minority we are muslim community take a listen to this comment sent to us by cindy you a past guest on the show. chinas you sufficient ignition technology fits into why do you know if it's a 10 to rollout

a nationwide criticism where every system is rated only trustworthiness based on information from big data and yes it facial recognition in changing that way to seeing this way change will kiss up being recognised by cameras as they cross the road and then identity is displayed on big locals across the rage in china's proud coach at this sort of public shaming can be very effective man when you you hear that from from her there i mean in china's contacts is there a particular fear or is that are they taking this a step further i mean what can you how many can time contextualize that for our audience. china should really serve as a lesson and instructive lesson of what the united states and other nations and frankly what the chinese chinese government should avoid one of the stories on the chinese use of this focus time mosque that previously years before before face surveillance had been bustling at prayer hours and now that mosque is desolate and

deserted this just illustrates very clearly that showing a fact that happens when people know that going outside means having your face scanned your name logged into a government database and maybe your identity placed on a watch list for government agents but we would be fooling ourselves if we didn't think that the united states government had a history of turning surveillance technologies against these kinds of communities we have seen it with everything from license plate readers which scan vehicles to social media surveillance that the people who are disproportionately targeted by american governments and local and federal governments are people of color they are immigrants and we've seen black lives matter tracked and we're seen ice the immigration and customs enforcement agency deployed these similar kind of tools right now so it's really important and that's what it's really important to act and defend ourselves right now and that's exactly what san francisco and now a domino effect of communities are going to do with this particularly dangerous

technology. i also did the same in the u.k. i mean i just i just want to point out that even in the trial phase any day police have been using facial recognition against peace activists not the most dangerous people. and people with mental health problems as well so we haven't even seen you know that's a bold towards wealth or as heroin is and by the time i mean the stop point and the end point because technology is really just stepping in nature i think in the late . you know i also think that china is a really important example in terms of thinking about whether or not what we know about their system is true it's not that i particularly doubt that they could develop but you know this sort of mass scale ubiquitous special recognition i think it's probably all true but the source on it is the chinese government and the source on you know their ability to spot someone 'd in a crowd of 50000 people at

a concert or something all those sort of triumphs that they discuss and you know this type of footage that you're seeing on the screen and this is really all coming from them with not a lot of you know getting our independent audit and going on so one of the dangers you have is if the system isn't as robust or isn't as accurate as they say maybe someone who wasn't even jaywalking gets put up on the billboard and gets publicly shamed and that's type of thing would be really difficult to bring to light so just again it shows the potential dangers either way whether a system is working as intended or not you know there are still big ramifications i think what's interesting is the idea of opting in and opting out and when you don't have that opportunity to opt in so i want you to take a look at this we did circulating online our producers found this before the show this is matthew brennan who treats wow china airport face recognition systems to help you check your flight status and find the way to your gate note i did not

import anything it accurately identified my full flight information from my face now that is pretty creepy to me it's eerie though i could see the argument that it makes things efficient but i want you to have a listen to a clip from 27000 that shows another side of this and it lucian who works as the head of an aid station in shanghai explains how facial recognition software can help regular passers by on the street. today. we think running this facial recognition system has reduced the time needed to do searches like in the workload of our staff and made our searches more efficient that lets us help people faster when they are unsure about their identity and helps us as much as we can to find their relatives and hide them. so when it comes to talking about dementia patients or very people who are outside the last facial recognition some would say well it can help that silky what's your take on the beneficial uses and the opting in

but but but not having a choice to opt in i mean it might be that there are some beneficial uses i just haven't seen them yet and inherently. particular issues that is the inherent risks with live facial recognition in which there is no consent and that is inherently. so they invented a mass identifying tool when you have a one to one face comparison will cause there's a whole host of things that can be useful for all but we must play that with life facial recognition whereby thousands of people can be identified at any one time. very quickly i just wanted to throw this comment in there i'm all was dumbfounded personally when people say this but. t.w. saying due to the large population in china i think it's necessary since it easily reduces crime and perhaps the majority of the chinese population except sit watching over me is fine unless otherwise i'm

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a real bricks it britain's prime minister boris johnson praises a new divorce agreement with the e.u. but it's far from a done deal back in london. as it stands we cannot support. such a day. also ahead seeking a ceasefire the u.s. vice president leads a team trying to convince turkey's leader to halt the syria offensive us. shouted down again the hong kong leader is called a liar by her political rivals who insist she must resign i'm going to go with sport as boxing mourns another fight american patrick day has died from a brain injury sustained on saturday. to die this year. hello britain and the european union have finally reached a tentative new breck's

a deal hoping to put an end to their 3 year divorce battle but there are serious doubts about whether the u.k. prime minister boris johnson will get it approved by parliament back in london so he and the european commission president were all smiles as they made the announcement in brussels the agreement was signed off just hours before a summit of the use 28 member states. i hope very much not speaking of elected representatives that my fellow n.p.c. in westminster do come together to get bricks it done to get this excellent deal over the line and to deliver for exit without any more delay so that we can focus on the priorities of the british people improving our health service investing in pretty thousands more police up a living wage and many many other things. we have to deal.

and so there is. not an argument for further delay it's just a big jump no while boris johnson's key political ally the northern ireland democratic unionist party has flatly rejected the new deal as has the u.k. is the main opposition labor party whose leader says it's worse than the agreement struck by johnson's predecessor this is a day when the prime minister seems to have made a deal with the european union which doesn't give us the complete freedom of movement between britain and the oil and because it creates a customs union border. and secondly it does nothing to deal with all the concerns that we've raised during trees mais premiership and is about a race to the bottom in rights and protections and we believe he's proposed is heading britain in the direction of a deregulated society sell off of national ices to american corporations so as it

stands we cannot support this. so another showdown looming in the u.k. parliamentary challenges there will speak to him after we go to lawrence lee he's joining us from brussels and juncker lawrence has said that he will not allow an extension to break that past october the 31st what's he basing that on and what are we to read into that statement. well i mean in one level it's it is not jungle junkers decision to make is actually the decision of the $27.00 national leaders but he could advise them not to seek an extension i think i think the only reading really you can put into it is that he's trying to bounce british m.p.'s into supporting the deal that he and boris johnson have a family out and you know if it looks like a threat you can sort of understand why because if you look at the whole thing over its timeline basic solong to construct the deal with series in may and then the british parliament basically turned their noses up at it. you know and that was like giving birth to a rhinoceros and then and then they come up with this one in staves and immediately

the democratic unionist party they've got 10 m. he's the british parliament so no no we don't like that and all the labor m.p.'s say no we don't like that either i mean there's only a finite number of deals that you can do it's not like they can keep coming back and figuring out some other way of sorting this conundrum out and so that the european union and the european commission are absolutely sick of the whole thing they they they now want to push. m.p.'s the british parliament into supporting it insofar as they can and back the johnson deal so they can get on with all the other stuff they've got to worry about as well but of course the question is if m.p.'s in london. rule it out again on saturday as they rolled out stories amazed ill and then they're faced with no deal the european commission european parliament don't want that on their interest and then supposed to write them a letter asking for another extension of the role of things john says about ruling out of the extension at this point you might get

a different answer by next monday ok lawrence thank you for that update from brussels well let's find out what may happen on saturday in the u.k. and bring in royal challengers joining us from london so it could be a tough challenge rory passing this through the house of commons come saturday. absolutely and you know with labor saying that they're not going to go for it and the d p saying they're not going to go for it either boris johnson is going to have to scrap arounds to get every vote that he can if this deal is going to squeak through the houses apartments there are various amendments that are going to be allowed in the debates or on saturday so that there are a few possible outcomes that we can envisage one is that yes boris johnson does have the numbers that he manages to persuade any wavering tory m.p.'s even a few rebel labor m.p.'s that say it's worth just getting this thing done so the country can move on city you can move on then it would happen on october 31st but

what we might get is the m.p. say ok we'll give you some consents to this deal but only if this is put back to the people there isn't going to be another referendum that is a possibility to. say in the referendum might throw up a number of different possibilities or m.p.'s could reject the deal and if that happens then the ban acts kicks into force now ben x. is the piece of parliamentary legislation they said that if your stance and couldn't come up with. an approval deal then he had some rights to be asked to write to the the e.u. requesting an extension and we just heard from lawrence talking there about despite what you don't produce grisette about not wanting that extension you might get a different answer if the only alternatives so that is is a no deal so we also i think if we didn't get it you know if there is

a m.p.'s voting down this deal on saturday then that does i think hasten announcements that we're likely to see on a on an action and of course on that election boris johnson would then be campaigning on the deal that he has just secured with the european union saying that he is the man that can eventually get that over the line as he has been doing for some time ok murray charles thank you. so while northern ireland's main political party is against the deal the prime minister of the republic of ireland is very much in favor here's some of his reaction i think stunned we have a draft agreement between the european union on the one hand the british government on the other i think it's a good agreement that i was the united kingdom to the european union an orderly fashion with a transition period which is very important for businesses and citizens across the european union and also in the u.k. and also. create

a unique solution for northern ireland recognising the unique history and geography of northern ireland so what's changed for ireland in northern ireland in this new agreement will customs checks will be imposed along the irish sea between northern ireland and britain so crucially these checks won't happen on the land border between the republic of ireland on the north which many feared would inflame past sectarian divisions to make this possible northern ireland would remain aligned to a limited set of e.u. rules still has we mentioned northern ireland's largest party the do you piece says it can't support this it opposes any agreements which it believes will separate northern ireland from the rest of the u.k. need barker has the latest from belfast the northern islands where the politics at play could make or break boris johnson's deal. there are strongly opposing views when it comes to boris johnson's breaks

a plan depending on whether you are unionists or whether you are a nationalist depending on which community you come from we've heard from some nationalist politicians from shin fein who have warmed to boris johnson's plan largely because it means there will not be a hard border between northern ireland and the republic of ireland under his plan northern ireland remains closely aligned to the e.u.'s single market which is why the government in the republic of ireland in dublin are happy about this move as well but for the very same reasons the democratic unionist party the government partners in power have rejected boys johnson's plan and every single one of their 10 votes those 10 m.p. sitting in westminster every single one of those votes counts as to whether or not boris johnson will be able to get his plan over the line on super saturday that all important day in which boris johnson will have put his plan before parliament and

he has 45 votes short of getting it exactly over the line but what we've heard so far in multiple statements coming from the d.p. here in belfast is that they are out to reject it on a number of different fronts firstly that they believe that it undermines the unity of the united kingdom one of the d.p.s. red lines is that northern ireland shouldn't be treated differently a tour politically economically or in a custom sense to the rest of the united kingdom but on a johnson's plan what we're left with is something heading towards a de facto customs border all the way down the middle of the irish sea and what is worrying is that we're also hearing whispers from hardline loyalists that want northern ireland to remain firmly part of the united kingdom that they would be prepared to go as far as carrying out acts of violence if indeed a border down the irish sea is what materializes going forward satisfying both communities satisfy all political groups here in north. and was always always going to be difficult but clearly the message coming from the democratic unionist party

who the government in westminster relies upon for help is that they will not accept this arrangement they will not accept johnson's brock's a deal the rest of the day's news is coming up on the al-jazeera news hour and testifying on capitol the u.s. ambassador at the center of the donald trump's impeachment inquiry the threat of ice or fighters escaping iraqi and french governments discuss their fate. by england's rugby coach ahead of the world cup quarterfinals joe will have the details a little later. so the u.s. vice president mike pence and a delegation have been in talks with turkey's president trying to convince him to stop his military offensive in northern syria well penson the u.s. secretary of state my home.