inherent difficulty of any kind of a meaningful power sharing negotiation or ultimate deal between the gandhi government and the taliban and by the way that phase 2 is primarily between gandhi and the taliban our role at most is to sort of incentivize each side towards 'd the kind of compromises that will be extremely difficult and they have haven't even agreed to talk to each other at the moment you know the taliban consider ghani and his government an american puppet and sort of a foreign you know body inside of afghanistan the gandhi government considers the taleban an insurgency and a group 'd of violent extremists and so it's not even clear the 2 sides will be able to stay at the same table for more than 5 minutes without drawing up their arms in futility and frustration so i completely agree that the 2nd phase of this which is what would require that power sharing negotiation at the top is going to be extremely difficult i've given some thought with colleagues to what kind of compromises you could imagine some of them could happen at the regional level and

parts of the country where the taleban has more power some of them could be in ministries that are sort of secondary to the main life of afghanistan some of them could be in terms of let's say you know symbolic positions on those issues you could imagine the gandhi government conceding a certain amount of political power to the taleban but when you get into issues like who's going to run the army and the police and the educational system it's pretty hard to see how this power sharing works and so i think it's going to be a long shot almost no chance of that 2nd base being completed before november 2020 when president drop attempts reelection michel always great to get your thoughts on this very complex story that we cover and we dip into on a regular basis here on al-jazeera thank you so much michael o'hanlon there in maryland good to talk to you. a spokesman says kurdish led forces northern syria have ordered the final evacuation of all fighters out of the border turn of the operation is still underway this was a key part of the agreement to pause for military operations with turkey char

stratford is following developments for us from the turkey syria border. calling to reports that we're hearing from people participating from groups participating in a medical convoy the 2nd medical convoy to go into russell and in the last couple of days they're saying that what they described as the 2nd back of injured civilians and fighters and not injured fighters are preparing to leave the city now is the statement from the s.d.f. the kurdish forces saying that their fighters had left the city a statement from their chief spokesperson very definitive in his words saying we do not have any fighters in russell lane anymore now that kind of statement was being disputed by free syrian army fighters that we've been contacting inside the city these of course are those syrian fighters that have been very much at the forefront

of this military operation with the turks they were disputing that saying that there could well be fighters still in the city they were saying that there were a lot of booby traps that had been left around there i think certainly with respect to the citizens that were trapped there and let's not forget the fighting in russell line has been intense over the last week or so and even after the cease fire they were reported ongoing sporadic clashes so it must be a great relief for what we believe could be at least a couple of 100 citizen civilians that have been trapped in that city where this leaves the cease fire remains to be seen. still to come here on al-jazeera he didn't sign the letter but that doesn't mean the e.u. will ignore the u.k.'s request for another delay.

hello there's been a subtle change. the feeling of the air throughout iran and further south a little less than subtle throughout levant where the cloud shows distinct which suggests under storms and new active weather cases new windy weather now the forecast is not dramatic we still talk about temperatures in the high twenty's or middle thirty's this area iraq west winds the clouds spilled across turkey and down towards iran that might generate a shower to 10 rounds down to $23.00 degrees us not a huge drop to be obvious a hint maybe of more snow in afghanistan and rain returning to syria lebanon turkey in particular this is stuff of a proper change of season i think 25 degrees in the rain in beirut seems quite likely the subtle change in the south is a drop in temperature. has risen in temperature of course but the most is a small drop says $35.00 or $32.00 bits of around the emirates up towards doha

bahrain kuwait still registering in the forty's with that's an exception not the rule but beyond that it's generally quite occasional showers to be spotted of the gulf you might see occasion she has still affected the dry picture there in southern africa you might see these white top clades occasionally not to share the weather but in the forecast it still remains dry and hot in botswana.

welcome back you're watching al-jazeera top stories this hour mass protests are spreading in lebanon with demonstrators demanding political change. on the streets for a 4th day objecting to rising taxes and alleged government corruption. he was defense secretary is on a surprise trip to afghanistan markets but told the reporters on the plane that the u.s. is trying to kick start stalled peace talks between the afghan government and the taliban. we're getting reports that kurdish led forces in northern syria say they've almost finished getting hold of the border town of ras al-ain this was a key part of the agreement supports military operations with turkey. in the

chilean capital soldiers are patrolling the streets to enforce a curfew and a state of emergency following more violent protests at least 3 people were killed in santiago when a supermarket was set on fire metro train stations have also been ransacked because of plans to increase ticket prices the president sebastian pinera and on the fair rises. continue over the high cost of living. to santiago correspondent to raise a boat so to raise the security forces on the streets. correct we're seeing them protecting metro stations people here are very very shocked because this is the 1st time that the military are in santiago. chile every time to democracy in 989 let's not forget about how all this started about a week ago. and now it's. a hike in the metro fare and that sparked protests for

years to have started going inside the metro without paying on the government all the time said that those people were not going to be analyzed what happened later on in those protests escalated because what people say is inequality in this country is clashes happen to be free again and that's why the government declared a curfew yes the state of emergency and that's why the military are on the streets today they're protecting themselves stations that have been vandalized have burned among other things president in your ad nauseam that he was going to hold a hike in the metro fare he also called for an urgent having next meeting but people here are telling us that they will continue protesting until they see real change to what is happening in the country so as of yet it's unclear whether this concession from the president is enough to make the demonstrators and the people who are carrying out those acts of vandalism walk away.

what's happening here talks about much deeper issues that that never met software that what we saw from the barry beginning it talks about what people say is endemic inequality until you get that she is seen as one of the most developed countries in south america it has gone from being one of the poorest countries in the region to one of those that has one of the highest g.d.p. if you have poverty rates are currently below 10 percent would see something quite unique and this part of the world but at the same time there is lots of inequality that prevails people here are telling us that they have problems with education with health care among other things they also talk and they are demanding also a reform of the constitution they saying that the constitution in this country benefits the private sector and not the popular one and that's why they're saying that they will remain on the street they're saying that this time she really has awakened and they're promising to remain on the street and feel they see real

change to resolve thank you. police in hong kong have been firing tear gas and water cannon the protesters they say were throwing petrol bombs as thousands continue to rally against a ban on face masks the demonstrations have been ongoing for 5 months now and sunday's turnout was a test of the movement's strength adrian brown reports. a stampede from police water cannon. as tear gas once more filled the streets of hong kong the main battleground was nathan road hong kong's busiest sorrow in the heart of countless popular with tourists who would have struggled to recognize the place now as petrol bombs were hurled by protesters the vandalism was targeted chinese owned businesses were singled out a mobile phone provider a branch would already border. metal fences were unscrewed to make barricades rocks torn up from sidewalks were scattered across roads. but once more police are firing

tear gas slowly they be reclaiming this busy thoroughfare but the firing of tear gas is up setting local people as a result another tense confrontation is underway. sunday followed a now familiar ritual an unauthorized march that began peacefully many of the protesters will face masks in defiance of the recently introduced ban a mash over of disobedience so i don't thing that they didn't move menace slowing down yeah in fact it is growing stronger and stronger than is outlined there 5 demands including more political reform and warnings that hong kong was becoming a police state. among the sea of familiar flags a new catalyst. to police this was an illegal assembly and the operation to

end it blasted into the night adrian brown al jazeera on call. in bolivia more than 7000000 people are heading to the polls to decide who run the country for the next 5 years the incumbent. has been in power since 2006 but is now facing a stiff challenge from the former president carlos massa mr morales is facing accusations of ignoring term limits in order to stand again if he wins he'll be in power until 2025. whole month is in. this big decisions to be made this elections in bolivia the incumbent president ever more rallies has managed to grow the economy much better than in many other countries in latin america and slashed poverty almost by half during his time in charge and introduced a sort of stability that wasn't there in bolivia in politics before him but he has now been in power for longer than any other president in the history of bolivia and he's running in this election because he changed the constitution to do so so there

are some worries about democracy in this country going forward we talked to quite a few voters here one of them primitive 0 basically said at least things seem to be going reason we've well and it's better to keep stability orcus you probably don't come you if there's a change will start from 0 again you lose all we've gained that's how politics is in our country like everything the previous president did will be considered wrong and we'll take a couple years for the new one to find his way it's better the devil you know than the devil you don't really don't like well now obviously other voters here want change and the nearest candidate to president of all more rallies is colors messer and he says he represents a more democratic future for the country there's also other worries here we talked to voters who say things now are going ok but some things could go better in the moment then i moved you're going to sit down let's put in place

a lot many things need to get better here for instance the health system they don't give it the importance of dissenters really that are many things that need to get passed turn there's a lot of young voters this election almost 40 percent of the electorate are under 30 what's going to be interesting is if they stick with president morales or if they want something new. a popular tourist destination is the latest victim of an oil spill spoiling beaches in brazil sludge is coating the usually pristine sands of puerto gayness brazil's environment minister has blamed venezuela for being the source of the contamination on brazilian beaches for the past month. the european union says it's received u.k. prime minister boris johnson's letter asking for 3 months to lay to the brics it deadline but has not yet indicated how it will respond mr johnson was forced to send the letter after losing a crucial vote in the parliament he didn't sign it and included another document

saying an extension would be a mistake and or simmons has the latest from london. the u.k. is deep into bricks it uncertainty again with the prime minister once again being accused of breaking the law and his government readying itself for a 2nd attempt to get parliamentary approval for a withdrawal deal agreed with the e.u. last week government ministers believe they have enough support to win a meaningful vote on the new deal as early as monday we're going to leave for the 31st we have the means and the ability to do so i think actually the mood in the country is clear and the prime minister's determination is absolute read the prime minister's plan by one m.p. who proposed an amendment house of commons that i am he says he's backing the government i thought in august that he wasn't being serious about getting a deal and that's one of the reasons why we put in place part of it was just to

make sure that if we got to 31st or do we go to deal we would be safe and not crash out a part of it was to give him an incentive to get a deal that i think worked i think he is now got his deal and now for those of us for whom that was the motivation we need to back that deal boris johnson isn't budging over his refusal to accept a brics a deadline extension his letter requesting one was julie sent to e.u. council president donald tusk but unsigned and he effectively disowned it with a signed follow up letter setting out why there shouldn't be an extension of the main opposition party says he's breaking the law you may well be in contempt of parliament or the courts themselves because he's clearly trying to undermine. the 1st letter and not signing the letter is behaving a bit like a sport made a decision he should abide by it and this idea that you send another letter contradict in the 1st i think that flies in the face of what parliament and the courts of decided mr mcdonald had been one of the politicians attending the british

final say march on saturday when police estimated around 1000000 people crowded into the capital calling for a 2nd referendum on brics it mr mcdonnell has confirmed that labor would back a parliamentary backbench amendment calling for a people's vote but while there may be calls for a brick sit decision to be brought back to the people the government is intent on making every effort to prevent that from happening and so on monday boris johnson's minority government will try to press the reset button on getting parliament to say yes to the new deal like every twist of the brics it crisis it's an unpredictable situation andrew simmons al-jazeera london. u.s. president donald trump scrapping plans to host next year's g. 7 summit at his own resort in miami after a bipartisan backlash critics accuse mr trump of misusing the presidency for profit

by planning to host world leaders of the trump national durrell in florida the u.s. president's denounced the opposition as crazed and irrational hostility he says the camp david presidential retreat is now being looked at as an alternative venue acting white house chief of staff mick mulvaney defended the president's original decision on fox news. the president isn't one for holding back in his is feelings in his emotions about something he was honestly surprised at the level of pushback at the end of the day you know he still considers himself to be in the hospitality business and he saw an opportunity to take the biggest leaders from around the world who want to put on the absolute best show the best visit that he possibly could and he was very calm from doing that drown. welcome if you're just joining us you're watching al-jazeera live from doha these are your headlines mass protests spreading in levanon people demanding deeper political change. there on the streets for

a 4th night raising their voices against rising taxes and alleged government corruption stephanie decker is at the protests in the capital beirut. peter. majority of the people there even economic reforms are not going to be enough to get him off. in the other just you know. the more pressure because it's a general strike. that's subsequently. travel because the roads. and also needs to be given has been. behind the scenes to try to. understand me. insulting actually the foreign minister. tells me that it was becoming and the.

u.s. defense secretary is on a surprise trip to afghanistan esper told reporters on board the aircraft that the u.s. is trying to kick start stalled peace talks between the afghan government and the taliban. in bolivia more than 7000000 people are heading for the polls to decide who will run the country for the next 5 years the incumbent has been in power since 2006 but is facing a stiff challenge from a former president carlos mencia mr morality says facing accusations of ignoring term limits in order to stand again but police in hong kong have been firing tear gas and water cannon protesters throwing petrol bombs as thousands of pro-democracy activists rally against a ban on face masks the demonstrations began 5 months ago sparked by an extradition bill which was later shelved but protests have widened calling for more democratic rights. in the chilean capital soldiers are patrolling the streets to enforce a curfew on a state of emergency following all violent protests at least 3 people were killed in santiago when

a supermarket was set on fire those are your headlines up next it's inside story after that we're all back with the news 60 minutes of news and comment i will see you then. what's next for the cattle on people in spain pro independence supporters are outraged at the jailing of separatist leaders following the latest mass march and violent protests and government leaders in madrid are dismissing catalan calls for talks what are the chances for a political solution this is inside story. hello

and welcome to the program i'm dead it's 2 years since catalonia tried and failed to break away from spain but the campaign for independence hasn't died down the jailing of separatist leaders this week reignited the debate sparking a general strike and a mass march from all over catalonia to barcelona violent protests in the regional capital have raised questions about the reaction from spain's government in madrid specially before next month's national election the region's pro independence leader kim told us has called for unconditional talks with the spanish government but the acting prime minister petra sanchez has dismissed the calls saying must 1st unequivocally condemn the on rests. yeah i'm with the joe thing go d.s. in as i said earlier it's been 5 days and we still haven't heard kudlow and regional president 2 are firmly condemning the violence the same for members of his

cabinet and other regional institutions nobody understands that they talk and talk for many minutes at a time without rejecting the by those who are expressing their solidarity towards the members of the security forces they must choose the way of the democratic institutions because there was no other way when the catalan president's call for talks came 2 days officers suggesting a new independence referendum should be held within 2 years can torah has called for calm but also said protesters won't shy away from their separatist cause not offensive as that it's not that said experts defense of rights and freedoms must always be expressed peacefully we ask of everyone violence has never been and never will be our flag across catalonia like i was at that is that it's not the cause of rights and freedoms is unstoppable we will go as far as the catalans want to go use them. for months we have asked the spanish prime minister to set a day and an hour to sit around the negotiating table unconditionally to speak and

to talk well despite much of the focus being on the pro independence marchers there are not the only ones campaigning opposition rallies have also been held in catalonia i would many calling for a unified spain charlie angela has more from barcelona. but now it is for unionist rally in barcelona and these people have come from throughout the region consider themselves proudly casting in or out of the spanish and their heads to condemn the protests that we've seen in the last few days people here believe passionately in the unity of spain and that is a view that is held by 48 percent of passing their names according to the latest poll that was held in july and that's versus the 44 percent of caste indians who believe that independence is the way forward both sides are looking to that politicians for a way out of this crisis you know that the castle and president came to or has also said to government to sit down and gauge and dialogue find

a way out of this crisis but so far the acting prime minister had a sentence has rejected those will the talks he says toure must 1st come out and condemn the violence that we mostly saw on friday and protestors were cutting police with rocks and stones and setting fire to bins throughout the city so it seems that spain finds itself at an impasse just as another general election approaches charlie and the inside story what's led to the latest protest so the independence question has divided catalonia for decades many believe the region strong identity culture and economy are good reasons for political separation from spain other catalogs don't want change an independence referendum 2 years ago was held in defiance of government leaders in madrid who said the vote violated spain's constitution voter turnout was low but the majority did folks yes for separation the cattle on parliament in barcelona quickly declared independence spain's

government retaliated taking direct control of the region until the election of a new government the leaders of the independence movement were charged with sedition and arrested then given jail sentences of up to 13 years on monday. let's bring in our panel to discuss all of this joining us from marcello via skype is one day he's a pro unionist and member of the cattle and business association in madrid via skype cutlass what is a representative of the cattle on national assembly and finally also via skype from barcelona one of the biggest said well he's an associate professor of political science at the university of illinois welcome to all of you to this edition of inside story thanks very much for joining us a 105 day are spain's government and the i think prime minister sanchez as your you've been hearing has dismissed the calls from catalonia as president for talks saying that he must 1st unequivocal condemn the unrest but surely there needs to be

a way to address the grievances so if there is no political dialogue what happens then well enough to be hell. for them is where you have spread you. yet if you get out qualifying when you read the rollout of those ideas for work you don't get that qualified you need to keep negotiating you need to keep trying to convince the other to vote your your your objective and this is you know just use the space site. many issues but the real dialogue the real that is going to have. facts in the parliament so you think of the acting prime minister is correct when he dismisses calls for a dialogue at this point. at this point well no i mean

that theoretically as they said it's a good thing if it's done in the right frame in the right frame of rule of law and in the right scenario in the run up we know the parliament do have to cut outside the parliament i think it's too tired because especially when there is instability and violence on the streets so 1st of all went far has to do it mr gore has to do is it's called then electrically the violence on the streets stop the riots stop the the calcium in barcelona and one everything's to stop the lies to reopen the parliament efficiently and try to score to discover that 80 years in the parliament trying to convince all in my maturity often beast it qualify me ready to move to take it forward to do this outside the rule of law and the only brief instability and violence. to well do you agree with that assessment that dialogue can only be done in parliament and not the direction it should go in. yes i completely

agree with my colleague adam a question with the when if this is clear why it is not possible to reach to the scenario and in the sense i think it is very important to understand to what to what extent political leadership imagery and particularly barcelona are very weakened in recent times. because not only because we are in a lecture or can be so political leaders are very attentive to their electorate and they are taking care of all their decisions trying not to. lose some of the voter state and risk of the seasons but you know enough with the more bros perspective. the program in catalonia in particular the evolution in the last 2 years. shows. the problem of having a baby weak leadership on the cats on site because the more important the more

prominent leaders are in jail and it seems they are going to be for a few more time and this is not only for early purity and on the suspicion is tight but as they are all the dissent this is also. and making dis movement more difficult to control because the more the leaders are not there in order to bake relate to personalise pragmatic issues in the same in the same time in missouri we have had for more than 6 months a caretaker government that was issued from a knock on to this vote one year and a half ago and we have have we have been. ruling the country with minority governments for 4 years we don't have to forget that in november we will have the 4th election in 4 years so we've made an already government with

a body divided party. both sides and with some of the leaders of this issue aside e.j. just very hard to see how both sides can take can engage in pragmatic burghley in order to find an exit to to this problem ok here is an important point that many important points in fact one of which is on the upcoming spanish elections which we'll get to in a moment but 1st let me bring in now carla suarez because. torah he did say that the violence does not reflect the peaceful nature of the independence movement but why do you think that he has not unequivocally condemn the unrest and the violence well to be honest he has condemned the violence many times against. self-defense from the profit protestors athlon side but let's not forget that the sentences for the couple of political prisoners which have already spent 2

years in jail are shameful spain has shown to the world to tell him to go if he comes to her tomography and since they were published on monday the situation of police control in catalonia $579.00 when the police including the 8 journalists would in fact 4 people have lost an eye on police attacks 2 protesters are on life threatening condition right now there's been a 179 arrested including 21 activists who are preempted jail most of them 18 or 19 so young teenagers a new generation look at a little bit and she was in right now it's a complete chaos ok so many options that caroline government is facing. well the atom government should try to. and channel the process and basically try to

find 1st peace and should the detrimental police violence 2nd freedom release of all political prisoners and free self-determination a binding referendum in catalonia monitored by the european union one half a day or what's your take on what carla suarez just had to say. in the mystery. summary we'd like building into the realities. now that they are in well you have acknowledged and now i think everyone saw me so that it was not me but. but this is very. last. minute. they have played they are. past it. and we have but surely you understand but surely you understand one surely understand that

people are very angry particularly after the sentencing of the leaders. well. it's very clear that they are not political they are only not well we have broken the law they thought that they were above the law whatever they wanted me to look at what about midnight but you know you knew. that they didn't mean you should the middle of what they're seeing segments about bombs and. does what they. need to. do the right channels the right brain is like well you also you could knock it's certainly what most people go on site and look what just goes at once and that was it was the look there and this incident is well it is untouched and how do. you so this wasn't ok i wonder why i don't think i was there well i would be a coming spanish election which you were mentioning just

a moment ago so how will the recent developments meaning these protests what impacts are they going to have on the election and will a new government be able to i don't want to say solve this problem but make some headway and this issue yeah. i am not sure if this situation right now is going to have a strong impact as long as you. will not evolve to our worst scenario because so far what we have seen is mostly but if you people are trying to express their anger it was a sentence at the same time we know that most of the actual leaders of the government maybe not the premise of but most of peaceful community members are trying to tamp down the situation waited for the result of the of november i think that the general election week give us a more liz

a similar scenario but probably with a stronger position for the 2 main stand. parties the social democratic party and the conservative party and the situation and probably. the rituals of the original election incredulous gridley will be hailed a favorite next year we hear if you were scenario a new fortunate in order to generalize. a pragmatic story which will not be in any case the start of school and probably not in any way or reprinting machine tool which is completely rejected by political elites and by an important part of the country population carla suarez go ahead i think shake your hand go ahead i mean all the polls of the last 10 years have shown that around 8 percent of population want to self-determination referendum so we've just nonsense to say that but let me hang on let me interrupt here right there which polls are you referring

to because the latest poll that we have that we have found here at al-jazeera is that it shows that the backing for the secession is in fact at its lowest level in 2 years with 48.3 percent of people against and now 44 percent in favor so there seems to be a drop why is that that's correct there's a 5050 between the procession common unionists but there is a consensus across the aisle that the referendum is the solution isn't normally democracy in to solve complex questions but you have to ask yourself is spain really a democracy another issue that has caused a lot of anger is not only the sentence itself but that they can which it was published let's not forget what happened on the mall the 14th of october we did exactly the same day that 19 for the 79 years old the spanish regime sentenced to death the part of the president. just the only democratically elected president to

be marred by. that change was playing respect democracy into rhetorical. integrity comes 1st and for the people to speak ok let's put that to one a river day i mean what we're seeing happen unfold in the streets of barcelona catalonia is a calling into question the sort of quality and integrity of the spanish democracy with world remains. in. place that recognize our microfiber union if they use one of the main one of the full thing marcus in the wall this is the strength of the spanish democracy and understand of this wanted to look as it is to make sure that we fight against the people above those responsible politicians to want who wants to read that the rule of law who wants to who they think they're above the law and they think they can move they can move forward with their ideas on safe this is frame of the rule of law this is the

strength of the status of the spanish democracy and again the politicians in jail is that they are in jail not because of their ideas but because of protection there are many people it happening out there you depend and they are not in jail because they send their ideas and they have not the meat the actions that. i believe go and have supported that of course. the judicial power would then get so this is destroyed of the spanish so that it can defend itself from people who wants to break the rule of law and the stability of the spanish society how much do you think won that the election campaign the upcoming election campaign in spain will be about or catalonia will feature in that election campaign. so all of this is going to have a huge impact because i mean also instability of the violence is affecting the whole state not only how close the site but also the sense of safety who is so is

watching a lie # a lot of hits territory it's in risk. of of all of this integration and the result of that i think responsible politicians trying to install this this is regina outside the law and obviously this is the every one little thing that the only about in spades everyone is worried about the situation and obviously people also i got the luck is also going to do have their blind see think that the you know when they cast a vote 100 guests the criticism by some is that the pro independence catalan government appeared to look like they're speaking for all catalans but as we were mentioning just a moment ago some poll so that the region is even the split between those that want independence and those that don't want independence would that be a correct assessment completely one of the achievements of the suspicion these movement doing distinctly is that most of the traditionally proc mattick nationalists the literary has now become actually suspicion east at or

half a bunch of 2 suspicious positions and different but indeed b.n. we we steal follow their traditional part of the time politics divided between hard part of the publisher for a. nationalist or more sort of government even suspicion and the other half side of the population should be different kinds of government agreements but always remain e.u. space and i think this is something that has not changed during disappears and many people. not only that this is why i probably a simple refer and i'm a suspicion sometimes these are. it's not exactly a solution so what we know is that we need people like you know the country since you are conflicts we need political leaders to get some stability and some.

capacity to rule over this a little race in order to implicate them in pragmatic and constitutional agreements and this is why we still need this kind of political stability after the general and the original election in order to try to sway a car less has the pro independence movement been weakened somewhat considering that there are still a large number of people who don't want independence in catalonia and we saw that in one of the demonstrations where our reporter went to. yeah well my report it will have witnessed the difference in numbers in the most question that you need the most urgent today versus the march in the general strike on friday in which millions of gallons went and there are a lot but still you're completely right there's a split and but 2 democracies when there is a split. york referendums so that's all we're asking nothing about. nobody should

not imposed a majority let the people decide let's organize a referendum the union excitedly say that we should obey the law but how can your be a law in the country which does not one of the issues but you clematis and democratic means that's why there was a unilateral referendum on 2017th and today in 29 years later the government hasn't done anything about it and that's where the protesters are on the streets tell you something there are decades where nothing happens and there are weeks where they happen that's where we are right now apollonia a referendum very soon and one day i think you're shaking your head what are your thoughts on on the ambition for another referendum and how do you think that the spanish government whichever spanish government is in power will who respond. well i mean it's pretty easy for david brendan to stuart to move ahead with the

referendum they just need to follow again the rule of law that are lost in space you can have a referendum of course the other thing is that you need to follow the the rules in order to reach to that referendum you need 1st qualify now you would be in the current parliament of concerts from there you go to the spanish parliament you need to get my unity as well then you can then you need to change that the constitution and then you can have the referendum there is a path that is already legislated a clear path to get to that referendum what you can do is to say look since this path is difficult because obviously democracy is nerds who go to stability they each have a consensus of 4 or 4 or one final year it just says it is i understand that it's difficult to reach through to that referendum there but the elite but says the thing that is difficult is ok this is the difficult things we need to have a qualified maybe that at this moment i don't recall whether or not we're going to

have we're going to jump outside that this friend is the friend that all of the cabinet has decided to live in and we're going to decide our own way ok possible i want to run our direct yes go ahead complete your thought again what i'm saying there are many countries where you will never have different treatment in germany those those independent no political parties are forbidden by posted to spank you can defend any a.d.f. you can have any objective any political objective. but you have to do it through the right channels following the right path and the right. all the laws outside the law it's impossible going to do anything but don't take the law you can do it in spanish within the spanish constitution all right i have to leave it there we've run out of time but thank you very much for joining us and speaking to us one day our carlos juarez and 100 guys tara well thanks very much for joining us thank you for watching and to the program again any time by visiting our website al-jazeera dot com for. further discussion you can go to our facebook page that's facebook dot

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documentaries on al-jazeera. al jazeera. i swear every. this is al-jazeera. hello and welcome back again i'm peter w. watching the news our live from our headquarters here in doha coming up in the next 60 minutes. huge numbers of protesters on the streets of lebannon

demanding the government fixes the economy. the u.s. defense secretary makes a surprise visit to afghanistan to help revive stalled peace talks. libyans vote in an election with the long term leader evo morales seeking a controversial 4th term. and then for the fairytale and fun to be blunt the world cup hosts are knocked out of their time and up by 2 time champion south africa. mass protests are spreading in lebanon people demanding deeper political change large crowds are out on the streets for a 4th day raising their voices against rising taxes and alleged government corruption they've received an unexpected boost as the head of the christian forces party some years georgia and i was his ministers will resign from the government

stephanie for an event for us in beirut so steff they are demanding. that the government fix the economy it seems however they don't think the government can fix the economy. that's. only evidence. like. we're hearing now actually interesting enough and the we're just musing. on an economic package. which includes cutting the salaries some of the politicians and police reforming the electricity sector which is in dire need of reform telecommunications investing money to deal with public debt but yet it is going to go to a vote on monday but peter told me to everyone here it does not look like anything is going to be at all they want the government. to believe that. this is a party atmosphere you do have to question what is going to happen tomorrow what

you. call the government they don't intend to step out they have performed are they good at these people going to look for the poor with nothing. to be have an idea how many people in beirut for example actually support individual politicians still the political parties. paul yeah i think it's important to to talk about it loud yes we're seeing hundreds of thousands on the streets of beirut with over a 1000000 people our number 11 on but there remain hundreds of thousands of people they don't have a population around $6000000.00 out on the street people who have a decent margin for example we heard from from the secretary general of hezbollah he said you know we can send our people down to the streets and then the dynamics would change they were absolutely changes the sense of urgency to the streets of the dynamics here are very complicated and can change and it's not that but these

people the 3rd haven't. the political parties know what has sent them here to civil society with some of their own accord to come across the sectarian divisions of the structures with the cross clauses you have all kinds of people here so this is what's so significant that the bigger the politicians want to go so their message because what they say is that decades of political infighting but it'll still be good politicians. above her personally making people pay for it has ended up in what is pretty much an economy. like up there you really do have the youngest here. element is what. everyone piled up our own celebrating protesting this is their way of raising their voice. and do they feel that they are getting closer to the government is that the end

point. that is for a lot of them that is their aim and happiness because that's the bottom of the board human action but they are aware that this is going to be very difficult i mean the passion. and you look at the countries come to the. the roads are blocked to the north and to the south the socceroos are going to continue to be. ruled for the shops are closed on friday when this area so happy to work out the whole sell a lot of the water having the news of the 1st processors shocks or smashed the traffic lights were smashed in this country has come to a standstill these protests around in this country also the question is are the politicians going to allow it to continue will they resign it doesn't look like that at the moment to put it i don't tomorrow is going to be a key day it's really going to be a key day whether things turn one sack how do your however they're going to present

it comes out in office are these people going to be happy are they going to be angry and stay the the people we've been speaking to be angry and state and that is the government's going to allow that to continue how will they make it stop the sound was not a question still interested me but these are extraordinary times you know and briefly staff for those lebanese politicians who are watching these pictures as the world is watching these pictures i guess they know what we know and it's this that the demonstrators they are aware of what they are against they know what they are up against and what they want to push back against but do they have a clear idea what's they offer for because it seems to me there's no politician in the in the political world who they can read to the east of the loyally support. the you know what they're for is actually very simple it's about improving. their

day to day lives it's about not having to make starship. who knew which an actual street that doesn't work it's not having to pay ridiculous amounts of money to access health care it's not going to put amounts of money for education these are the people there been telling me when i all that they say i don't want to have to pay the moment and everything and for things still not to function at this is the point and the point that the funny thing is that. how could they think that the was at the point of what i'm for them is that the people have been taxed have been almost to pay for the 2nd coming crisis and stop all the been politicians simply. getting more and more rights than the usual they run out across the are the people of the cold of the regime. so i got 24 hours

less than that now peter or that is now officially some kind of announcement from the government as to what they have decided according to eat that it is an economic reform package with cuts to saddam a politician with that going to the sec to be there who is the good of you know. we're going to have to wait and see. stephanie thank you. ok let's stay with that evolving story in is a house and is a member of the hockey that's an opposition progressive movement he says the protesters won't see these demonstrations as a success until they have stood the government. i think that people has made clear today that nothing is enough except for their demands and their demands are very clear they need to or they want to overthrow this political class of this ruling class in whatever means possible and in mostly peaceful means and constitution means. that's why they are requesting the and demanding and they are

protesting for deal with there is ignition of the cabinet of the council of ministers and their calling for the formation of another ministry at another cabinet of many cabinet or council of ministers that is independent from the political forces running the country that could save the country from the current economic crisis and plan a new election a new parliament election based on a new law that actually leader presents be put through the presentation to people so we are not settling for any small kind of reforms we are seeking very clear objectives any economic policies that will save us from save us from this crisis have to be economic policies that are based on economic justice and social justice cannot we cannot have a tax on the poor in taxes on the middle class anymore and so you shins which is what the government was trying to do last week what we need is the access on those that have been benefiting from the economic system for the last 30 years without

contributing enough with their fair share of taxation and those who have been occupying public properties without paying their taxes we're talking about the banking sector but these things speculators we move on the u.s. defense secretary is on a surprise visit to afghanistan mark told reporters on board the plane that the u.s. is trying to kick start stalled peace talks between the afghan government and the taliban. broke off u.s. to boosie actions last month following a taliban attack which killed 12 people including a u.s. soldier has more now from washington. the visit to kabul is the 1st for the new u.s. defense secretary mark esper he's been on the job for a couple of months but he has already been dealing with the issues of the continued u.s. military presence in that country some 14000 u.s. troops are stationed in afghanistan one to train the local military to help it build its capacity and the other to take part in the nato led operation to carry

out counter terrorism activities so that groups such as the taliban or al qaeda cannot reconstitute and carry out attacks against other countries of course this is a situation where the u.s. has been trying to come to some sort of peace accord with the taliban before the taliban reaches its own peace accord with the afghan government but those talks have been rocky ground as it were because the taliban carried out an attack in early september which killed one u.s. soldier at that time the u.s. president donald trump said that he could not countenance the u.s. has continued negotiations with a partner that was in fact attacking u.s. interests and u.s. persons but there is a larger recognition in the u.s. government that trying to get an eventual peace deal with the taliban is necessary if the u.s. wants to remove its troops eventually from the country one thing the pentagon has

been saying in the meantime that tentative plans to cut the number of u.s. forces from 14000 to about 8000 are conditions based and there's no plan as of right now to actually remove 6000 forces from afghanistan it really is going to depend on the diplomatic circumstance michael o'hanlon a senior fellow and director of research in foreign policy at the brookings institution he says the u.s. will have to compromise that position in order to get the taliban back to the negotiating table. well you know people have been paying lip service to a peace deal for at least 10 years and people have been saying the only way out is a political solution and almost everyone uses those words i wouldn't be surprised if other brookings scholars and of al-jazeera anchors use those words but when you get right down to it if those words mean anything they have to mean precisely what you set even if it's distasteful that you're giving taleban leaders some kind of political standing.