complex. the political crisis in lebanon shows no sign of ending after a main contender for prime minister withdrew from the race samuel healthy says lebanon's top sunni religious authority backs the reappointment of former prime minister sadly how do you know he resigned in october after weeks of empty government protests people angry over corruption and sectarianism foreign ministers from the gulf cooperation council arriving in riyadh ahead of a summit on tuesday they're expected to discuss relations between carter and other arab nations blockading it the 6 nation regional bloc has struggled since 2017 when saudi arabia the u.a.e. bahrain and egypt severed ties with cattle. first the headlines the news continues after up front stay with us. they've been bringing the whole thing is a political deadlock since the brics that referendum believe they still have to defy the will the general election on december the 12th is all anything can boris

johnson get the rx it done and where does the u.k. go from here follow the u.k. general election on al-jazeera. from kashmir to buttress star to religious minorities is pakistan willing to take responsibility for its human rights abuses i lost a human rights minister in imran khan's government. here in missouri thank you for joining me on up front you're the human rights minister in a government that is perhaps the world's number one critic of indian government human rights abuses in kashmir abuses that we've covered on the show very recently but what about pakistan's own contribution to that human rights crisis in kashmir

you've backed armed groups like gesture mohamad and lush going to pay about that have killed civilians that have engaged in torture that have ethnically cleansed kashmiri hindus that's all undeniable isn't it it's absolutely did. we not done any ethnic cleansing. in fact the but. the way that created the situation. i think nobody in the world believes that the fish needs in occupy wall street. struggle. to liberate themselves from. the scene and. force. the scheme it's not 121 days i mean we've we've covered the lockdown extensively i'm just wondering

you can still have an indigenous freedom movement while also having pakistan support violent groups like gesture muhammad and what's going to say about you don't deny even your prime minister has admitted that your country in the past. has backed some pretty vicious groups here that yes in the past we have backed some freedom fighters and we had bad groups supporting those people just that was a long time ago and that is nothing and you've done the best human rights by occupation force. the violence that has led to. indigenous struggle to say to you so you know did you discuss mary's but didn't the leader of gesture muhammad take responsibility for an attack on indian security forces in february that almost led to war between your 2 countries he did that while allegedly sitting in a pakistani military hospital bed he's quoting attacks on india from pakistan your little bit well that. attack was a false flag operation deliberately to try and crack. into what you had

already planned which was of course the lockdown being an expression of the august occupy when and we know that india was going to this election liberate you know what to detract attention and the this does not really step this who was behind the obama ad that we have all the you say false flag but the u.n. committee which blacklist terror groups blacklisted gesture mohamad earlier this year or tried to blacklist the group earlier this year you know that they've claimed responsibility for that attack and you also know that the financial action task force which is one of the world's leading global financial watchdogs based in paris says has said repeatedly this year that your government is not just the past your government today is not doing enough to curb terrorism financing and money laundering inside of pakistan that's what the financial action task force says they were on weed out of playing with most of the demands of the financial action task

force but you also know they meant that one of the members of the f t f is. yet having to serious problem and we have protested objected to in. yes but those that politicize this what should not be opened it. up when it does not let me yes or to try to improve. sort of you for proof and comply they say you've only complied with 5 of the $27.00 action items they've asked you to take on terrorism and money laundering let's just talk about miri independence you talk about them. yes just briefly respond to the financial action. has not. shown that we are cooperating with them that i think the general impression is that despite yes. i mean up at this well. you mentioned indigenous freedom movement in kashmir but it's not as

if your government pakistan is offering customary freedom is it in pakistani administered kashmir known as ours in your country which means free or independent kashmir the politicians are forced to sign a declaration there saying quote i solemnly declare that i believe in the ideology of pakistan the ideology of the state access into pakistan and the integrity and sovereignty of pakistan that doesn't sound like freedom or independence for the customer is there that looked into your country a new government and listen this is the bottle of fish need that liberate it so strong and get occupation and that it was going to link up with one it is not and occupy if you. just know memory either is or it's not free it's not independent and the parliament they have then actions and it's part of the. constitution to say. and we have said that we have not

even focalized our border with china that they reported agreement in. guinea to the private settlement after the initial. so. to be clear and to be clear are you offering question mary's independence yes or no does the pakistani government offering me we have said. they want. to sit i don't think you would support missions but the un people get it as you notice here in missouri the un pub as it does not have independence question on it it says join india or pakistan i'm sorry would you add a question on independence but we have. to sit and they want to. join. us want it we have to go we should give the right to. the indian government says you have no credibility when it comes to criticizing their actions in crimea given your own actions in

baluchistan your country's biggest province where the pakistani government has dealt with a decades long insurgency by killing abducting torturing thousands of people even today. listen india. is an internationally recognized. but meaning. so one believes that isn't and. secondly we haven't. got the province makes its choices well this is absolutely no combat is a yes i absolutely no comparison 1st of all you say it's an integral part of our country that's exactly what india says you blame india for supporting the military insurgence that's what india says about it on in kashmir and just sort of the fact the voice of below it's missing persons organization you must know the v.b. m p they say that since 1948 pakistan has quote been killing people and throwing

dead bodies they say 45000 people have been killed or abducted by pakistani security forces those a pakistani citizen saying this by the way. a lot of them are not. living up to provoke that. just on what. exactly. you know information we have no combat a bit but again. we have a commission which is focusing on getting out in force just. yet. anybody. has a problem with. the lad but the fact of the matter is that if it gets. really in good actions. the man just mentioned a story whether it was about the let us know what the understand how this sounds to a global audience watching this they hear an indian politician come on the show

a few weeks ago and say pakistan is behind everything bad in kashmir then they hate you come on the show and say india is behind everything that is bad and blah to stop it's a mirror image no i am not saying yes and. i think that's. me accept it was a little it had been in the bag back and yet they say the same about you. know what i'm talking about. what not understanding like you do what they don't. know you maybe just need. to recognize are the disputed territory not an occupied territory but if you want is just to be clear. but being yes but it is a place where as you yourself say there are enforced disappearances you told me a moment ago that your possibile to stop in force disappearances which suggests that you know that that is not disappearing not of human rights abuse in your the human rights and. let it.

be that made it true also. but we recognise it and yet you link with it and we have institutions where you can. and i think this is the basic difference between an. yes i think you made us points you made that i said well look the better they looked at other things like. you know ok well we're going to run out of time so i'm going on here to talk about india we have to talk about pakistan just sticking with your portfolio which is human rights a lot of people around the world look at pakistan's pretty draconian and barbaric blasphemy laws is something i discussed with him on common and he was on the show a couple of years ago some pakistani politicians have tried to train them they got killed for speaking out against your blasphemy laws do you understand why those laws leave religious minorities in your country like christians and shias and hindus and ahmadis feeling still persecuted demonize target is. us she

has like not of my daughter. and that bothers them. so please let me get on when we talk about my daughter but the sheer can. if you have an oppressed minority community in pakistan or a lot of other absolute really that haven't been and haven't been killings of shia professionals there haven't been disappearances of has already she isn't balochistan there hasn't been a sectarian campaign of hiatus i haven't been suicide bomb attacks and. we just imagined. by incident one attacking the other but to say that this yes that might well use fact. we have a slim citizens and they are the minority i mean not the one muslim citizens yes then the problems but not the separate press that accusations last week charges. and took less

than just. a blasphemy. will stems were trying to destroy it and. so i mean that issues really don't you know bit and i don't mean that piece of it well oh my god long distance it doesn't have all just little of. imaginable that we're not seeing is that things happening in the gulf of course the ahmadis were in a tricky situation because you say they're not muslims they say they are muslims here's what and how many spokesman said this year under your government he said how many have no religious freedoms in pakistan and recent actions taken by the authorities mean that the situation is going to deteriorate further and make it impossible for ahmadis to carry on with their everyday lives that was just 67 months ago under your government let me listen the enmities according to our constitution our anonymous and every right to. come into politics

just elections on non muslims they have every right to practice their religion but we don't have the land themselves not muslim in order to participate in pakistani public life some would say that's a form of not. dissipated update like but yes when we have to sign a form to get except the finality of the propped up on him and all of the look but op wants to do definition and numbers so there's no denial of that right but if then says the got constitution is wrong and they want us to change that then i'm afraid that that means you say there's no doubt of rights you say there's not a lot of us in the show back in 2016 when i asked him ron can your prime minister if he would extend equal rights to ahmed if he said and i quote all human beings have equal rights anyone who is a pakistani has an equal right yet shortly after he was elected to office last year princeton university economists are to for me on who'd been selected to serve on the prime minister's economic advisory council was asked to step down because he's

a mama why did the prime minister stand by him why did you stand by him if everyone has equal rights in pakistan if he was not a bystander he was in the us so let's be very down when you think equal rights you have equal rights and the constitution you want to bring about changes that many people on stage again just which may improve with it the 18th amendment we have not bothered didn't want to bring about any change in a whole get. up that we had this was unfortunate and there was a lot of volatility or discriminatory ascension it no i think that it was the choice of the government play any but i think that. the better of me and the fact of the matter is that. it should not have been done in the way it was done if you pick up on the question we should never have taken that position the 1st the gentleman is not a tax and has been living in the state so it's not that it was being denied

a right to be part of the government and he was being asked to be an advisor and i think that. is one of the leading economists ok but it was targeted because i. know the country was. he was treated needlessly and i think that it would have been handled better but he was not denied any any you must say it was being asked to come as an advisor or sort of look sure in missouri thank you so much for joining me on up front. from worldwide protests over corruption and inequality to the popularity of socialist politicians like jeremy corbett and bernie sanders it's hard to get away from the idea that there's something very wrong with the global economic system even billionaires and business leaders talk openly about capitalism being broken so is it really on the way out or all reports of capitalism is divine is much exaggerated greece blakely is an economics commentator at the new statesman

magazine in london and author of the new book stolen how to save the world from financialization 0 argo's a financial policy analyst at the cato institute in washington d.c. a libertarian and free market think tank thank you both for joining me in the arena how much of the recent protests that we've seen around the world in latin america in the middle east as one of the rise of politicians like jeremy corbett bernie sanders elizabeth warren how much of all of that is about the explicit failure of capitalism to protect workers to share the proceeds of growth to reduce inequality gross i think specifically when you're looking at what's going on in latin america at the moment you're looking at the massive pushback against international institutions that for decades have been in place in 40 states are actually actively involved in foisting a very particular economic and political order on nations that simply democratic and have rejected many of those policies as a significant source of instability and many of those states it's hardly surprising

that people who are basically losing the right to vote to have a say over their economy are really getting angry about this stuff when you actually look at the countries that are seeing protests that were it's interesting because some of the countries that have the most violent protests right now are the ones that have been most prosperous in the last 3 decades chile is by far the richest economy in latin america inequality there has gone down which hasn't happened for example in when as well or it's opened up and liberalized massively it has trade agreements also unoiled going to be discontent that's driving these protests and i don't think it's primarily economic disk. discontent reflected by the figures anyway in your new book stolen you say quote we are currently living through the death throes of slow growth would you be so in the book i talk about this idea of finance libraries being a kind of model according to which economies particularly in the global north have been governed for a long time and an institutional arrangement that privileges the interests of a small class basically corporations because of financial lies they're far more focused on their standing in wall street the city financial markets and they will

do anything to kind of short term share price even at the expense of long term investment and paying their workers. so that there is a very strong for us well i mean you know it takes a lot while the system economic and political systems to break down and we are seeing the cracks i didn't see the breakdown greece i have to say you know you look over the last 30 years in the big story of the last 30 years is a massive massive reduction in extreme poverty primarily driven by 2 things one since the late ninety's seventy's china opening up to the world which had $900000000.00 poor at the time that it opened up in a house less than $100000000.00 still $100000000.00 to many but a massive improvement in then since the ninety's india doing the same thing that's the dramatic story of the last 30 years now in terms of indebtedness in developed countries including the call to within developed countries that is a phenomenon that i am concerned about in one that is i think driven a lot of the time by regulatory restrictions that benefit the people who want assets at the expense of everybody else but you look at the developing world in inequality globally has actually gone down it is happening the china case is really

interesting right because the way that china has got to the position it's in today is by breaking all the rules that those international institutions want to impose on it it has had capital controls it's not exchange controls it has not state ownership of many of the most important institutions. in the economy not to say ownership of the banking system of big enterprises mentioned in use which as we know but that is why it's been able to weather the storm but it doesn't mean i mean today the main driver has been for interest investment from other countries and the fact that foreign capital could. movie in the main driver of china's growth of the last 10 years has been state investment in fact has basically been the only right but a lot of a lot of the last 10 years is the smallest bit of this whole period your only point to you is the problem for your way of looking at the world that it's not just socialists or people on the left who are saying capitalism has major problems whether it's inequality or stagnant growth it's also the international monetary fund the world economic forum the world bank hoard cool capitalist institutions are saying this stuff yes i'm a left wing plot no i mean i don't i would say it's

a little in plot but i think the narrative has to be differentiated here is there's a difference between pointing out specific problems with the global economy right now and i think there are plenty of them but i think most of the time they're driven by misguided interventions by specific national governments whereas the trend in the general adoption of free markets around the world in the last 30 years there is no question that it's improved the world over all the worst of all not know where you're from billionaire radar for example says capitalism must evolve or die but it's not working for the majority of people do you agree with that no i don't actually know i think as i say the main driver what we want to eradicate is situations where people cannot satisfy their basic necessities in cannot flourish in a humane way around the world and i think we haven't had a period in the history of the world like the last 30 years in which the vast majority of the global population even in the most deprived places have suddenly and finally gained access to the most basic essentials in the cities in that has been driven universally by liberalization i actually agree with the point that

a lot of this has been driven by governments i think we have to look at capitalism as a joint venture as it were between the free market and a particular camp that form of their states and they have often over the last 40 years whether you look at that or ism in britain reaganism in america you know various pinochet in chile right states have worked with markets to actually break down protections that existed so when you know someone's what's your model greece what country one of them is it is real democracy and this is the thing that no this is. a specific country this is the knowledge of what germany and bernie sanders are promising is something that has not existed but that's what they're demonstrating for a real world exam because often critics of socialism will say venezuela cuba extreme and north korea is the real world examples of people like yourself can point to and say no this works what are they going for there are places you work there are plenty of examples of 'd social democratic states if not socialist states providing much higher standard of living for the majority of their citizens that's something

i think we can what's one or all the nordic countries right you know it's interesting to have them up higher rates of legs and let me tell you something has better health outcomes better education outcomes at least a few other things that people don't realize are not economies sweden has the highest wealth inequality in all of europe it's privatized the schools it's private a lot of the hospitals agree with you it has very high standards of living in a very large safety net that helps a lot of people but it's not the picture that bernie sanders who said i was going to say was that those countries have historically had a much better outcomes because they've had a bigger role for the state in providing all these things that's not only the lives that have been 40 years those protections social institutions public services have been eroded if you look at the most prosperous countries in the world they have the rule of law they have very well protected property rights in we have a big role for markets even within the provision of public service and if you look i'm talking about new zealand well australia nordic countries germany france even they are beginning to adopt that model since we're usually degrees of the problem want to go for the phone when people in the us in particular have this debate about

capitalism socialism they say oh social is really bad venezuela and then you say what about the nordic countries and they said oh actually they're capitalist countries just like ours when you kind of both ways if they're so similar to the u.s. or more does the u.s. do what those countries are doing in terms of regulation well it doesn't really like the extent and usually multiple u.s. economy is similar to the norwegian economy in many ways it is yeah i mean it's open to trade it has capital mobility it doesn't it doesn't. have the same level of wages minimum wage the taxpayer pays for more health care in sweden. the provision of health care is in many ways the same as it is and you know there is a point that you will see that it is not universe there which is that both systems are all caps or systems as and they are economies in which there is private ownership of the most important resources we need to produce stuff and those are also used to maximize profit and i supported by the state what socialists today are arguing for is a step beyond that is socialized ownership of all the stuff we need to produce things and it's democracy in our economy as well as in our politics that means waka

ownership of it means you know workers actually making the decisions about what we should be producing it's democratic control of our public services it means a democrat has to be clear are you saying that the public that the government should own all public services all utilities are saying that there should be different levels of a ship so definitely nationalized ownership of some things that are natural monopolies but primarily we need an economy that is run by people for people we have tried this before right i mean worker ownership was something i was writing so it was yugoslavia it was originally the model for the soviet union and steadily the state took over more and more roles in yugoslavia it was simply deeply inefficient it's an economy that was stagnant for decades if this is not a noble argument it's a very inefficient way the evidence for it is to organize an economy because it's a court of one of the engineers and we run out of time do you have to ask a big question before you run out of time how much is climate change per resident it's completely change the game is going to be impossible to solve the climate crisis under capitalism and it provides so much c to those movements that are

actually seeking to provide about a logical actually couldn't disagree more immediately and great to have to say you look at the environmental record of the socialist economies all across history and it's been terribly poor lake baikal in russia is completely drink as a result of seed management of the whole me i get why you want to say no they actually let me know when say we will go into the us they want you we're in this is not a democracy going to able to give you an example of our greatest to the greatest literate human history to do a search for america the world's most famous couple has to come or you would deny them well i mean but look at the evolution of carbon emissions of the united states in the last 10 years it's in. driven by private market you just have a look at this on the record i know you work for the cato institute which is funded by the koch brothers you believe in caused climate change of course ok and you think steps should be taken to tackle it oh yeah absolutely and they will be driven by innovation in private by capital that they go inside of cup you think capitalism can solve the climate change it's the only effective tool to do so if you look at the historical evidence we'll have to leave it there diego grace thank you both for joining me in the arena that's our show up front of will be back next week.

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