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absolutely because i think for the sake of iraq for the sake of the record sovereignty and off. to prevent any deviation coming from fighting terrorism and fighting that. it is also the only option to protect everyone on the iraqi a turn of phrase it's difficult for the foreign troops to protect itself from as a tax from within or from outside iraq and the iraqi troops could not protect the foreign troops after what has been a hotbed of these. unilateral decisions that it could not help anyone and the iraqi parliament has also to put into consideration. and to make it clear that if this is
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a conflict and if this is see this as a conflict then some complications and some bad consequences might happen. not only with the u.s. administration but with other countries from the international coalition members use during the recent years we have seen so many things the size of the. metal and the economic and facilities in iraq are quite keen for the sake of iraq and are quite keen to have relations of friendship with the countries that have helped us to fight that with the neighboring countries and we are also quite good to prevent anyone to interfere in our internal affairs and our sovereignty in our higher. interest the change of
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security administrative and the economic political behavior is quiet important because we need to have. read real state to get rid of depending only on oil we need to have at it you methods in order to fight the employment and to create jobs and to create other tools in order to help ourselves and help our country our way from the oil revenues only to find the lazy have some recommendations as prime minister and as the general commander of the phone says is to go to the fairest of action the spite some inside and outside troubles but this option is the best for
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iraq and is the best holder to have the right sound proper relations with the righteousness of america that is based on friendship and based on respect and sovereignty and based on not to enter fish in there and home affairs iraq has lived from 111-2211 saudi from 2011 to 2014 iraq has lived in this period without. foreign troops and the iraq elections during this period was a riot with all countries and the parliament has to are doffed what it deems to be necessary in this regard finally i seize this opportunity to say. stress and to confirm. that the parliament has to.
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put an end to this. problem of the problem of the coming government we need to sort this out and we need the powers we need to term in the relations between powers in this country i understand that the parliament is facing so many things to be sorted out and before my resignation i declared myself and i declared. will of my government to resign on condition of appointing or elected or having and your government that will solve all the problems long live iraq long live the iraqi people praise be to our law almighty and peace be upon you
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old. and that's where we broke away from the iraqi prime minister. who was outlining there the need for respect of iraqi sovereignty he said there were 2 options that they could be put to the palm of the 1st option is that they end the presence of u.s. forces inside iraq the 2nd option is that they really draft the conditions of the presence of american troops on iraqi soil those conditions being only to assist in the training and support of iraqi forces he did then say that he prefers the 1st option that 1st option to end the presence of u.s. troops in iraq of course that now is going to be debated inside the iraqi parliament was saying that the base continue and those motions will ultimately be decided on by the iraqi parliament but all of this of course after the killing of
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the iranian commander customs so the money which has brought so much of this to hits among the photon is just to join us now live in baghdad. take us through this from where you're sitting we've seen these 2 options being put forward but clearly . he prefers the 1st option that is to end the presence of u.s. forces. that is correct he was the put it pretty clear on that in his speech basically outlining the problems with the current relationship with the united states he did also mention in the beginning that solar money was in iraq to meet him on friday morning to try to come to an agreement on how to end this current crisis and what he ended up saying india and the fact that he listed he said that the current the contradictions in the priorities between iraq and the
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united states that there has been some trust that has been lost in the relationship and he also a criticised what he sees as the opposition of the united states to the popular mobilization forces which is this iranian backed group of armed forces he also criticized the sanctions against iran and what he called basically disrespect for iraqi sovereignty so we're seeing the prime minister here take a clear side of course he's in a caretaker also it is a question of how much weight his speech really carries but what we do know is that the shiite blocs in parliament did put forth a motion before the session began asking for to withdrawal of foreign troops including u.s. troops from iraq one of the articles of this proposal also asked the government to define it very clearly how many trainers specifically could remain in country to train iraqi forces what exactly their mandate was but it appears that this proposal
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that is going to be voted on 7 probably in this session basically asks for a withdrawal of foreign troops not currently there are around $5000.00 troops based in the country u.s. troops but in addition to that we also have troops from many other nations including france it to the and all of these troops provide support as part of this coalition to fight isis so there is a question whether all these other troops will also be asked to withdraw. thank you smugness another 14 joining us live this from baghdad let's discuss this further now with mo on the shower al-jazeera senior political analyst and he's here in the studio with us what you make of all this mo on. the money making it very clear which one he prefers we're seeing the debate underway in parliament now that there's some of the consequences that flow from this if the decision as to when the presence of foreign troops particularly american forces well i tell you what's interesting is that. the caretaker prime minister of iraq that i've been might be
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why he is part of the sort of. shiite establishment in the country he's not considered a hardliner. in fact what a lot of the criticism about him is that he a one point in time would have been leaning towards the united states in the west and as a form of economy as an economist a one point in time graduating from western universities that he had that kind of leading so for this sort of let's call it for the fat meat for them being moderate right within the establishment in iraq a mother that politician to be coming out against the presence of foreign troops in iraq that means i would guess that the leaning within parliament in general would be towards either definitely asking them born troops you could in the american troops to leave or to be putting very very very tough conditions on whatever little presence any which one could have in the sea a block is the dominant bloc inside the poem that is putting forward this idea so
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it would seem to be on that basis as you cite that that option of asking foreign troops to leave would appear to be the move 5 it'll absolutely but no one of course it's the question is whether parliament is going to leave a little room for the government to be negotiating when and how because of course foreign troops don't just pick up and leave right and. as we as as i've been mad he said earlier that since 2011 we've agreed with them that they're supposed to be there to train our troops and to fight dives well they're not they're there to protect us they're not there so we protect them but but in fact it's been the us you saw the other day i'm sort of the way around that that's really interesting because what is the point of renegotiating new terms if terms that already existed that the united states was prepared to flout it was prepared to to to go against those terms in the 1st book i think is here you know it depends on our discussion we are a news organization t.v.
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station so we're going to be discussing at best the last maybe a week maybe 10 days or 2 living history to this there's a lot of here to this but certainly for our viewers on the war a lot of them understand that this is all started in 2003 when the united states invaded and occupied iraq and since then american troops were the even after 2011 when former president obama negotiated some form of what did all of most of the american troops leaving those ones that we just talked about but the fact that. after the little skirmishes less last week between the iraqis and the americans we're not the iraqis but that has been a popular bible as i should forces absolutely the fact that suddenly there were american fighter jets and helicopters flying over iraq without permission from the government means that the united states was not actually going to take permission for whatever little action is going to do especially where it involves protecting its embassy and song so forth it won't be dependent on the iraqi forces hence the
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iraqi government has been in a bind there is the pressure from iran and its allies within iraq and there is the pressure from the united states but has that has been in fact with us since 2005 since it was clear that this war the american war against iraq was a blunder and that it was iran that was gaining momentum and this iraq and this thing raj the question if indeed by us foreign forces to leave and which would be significant he had the american forces 5000 of them easy rock in a position to be able to defend its sovereignty we've seen people protesting on the streets saying they wanted into iranian influence but without the americans there without foreign forces there isn't that precisely what happens in iran increases its influence in the country that's a very good question in fact a lot of us who have criticized this war from the outset the idea was that if in fact the united states was interested in new pax americana in the middle east what it was doing was empowering iran by invading iraq because in the end of the day
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what happened is the weakening of the saddam as sound regime later on the war and its failures led to the empowerment of iran to do both occasion all of those scenes contributed to a stronger iran presence absolutely and that's why in fact it's is a just the best time possible is for us to put this context of the prime minister's speech to parliament in the context of the previous speech we just heard from lebanon because these are the sorts of us. dances important to ones anyway from lebanon and iraq from iranian all eyes in the in the middle east and i'm sure everyone sitting in washington all listening to exactly those 2 speeches to see what we've heard from his on the sala is that defiance. is a bellicose type that we are now in the midst of war where the united states i've been a bit muddy was giving us some more and then let the coligny get
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a list stick in the logical approach but it ends with as the source said basically to say you need to leave so when the americans listen to both speeches for them this is not just a question of leaving iraq the question is the vacuum they leave behind would look like us and a strong law that it would look like up to my the can you hold that thought because i do want to come back and explore what this means for america and what donald trump's ultimate strategy may in fact even be here so you stay with us mon on city of let's remind you know that what's been happening on this day a lot of fast moving events of the has been for recent days now tensions in the middle east the risk of lighting on multiple fronts as the region grapples with the fallout of the american assassination of the top iranian commander some solid money and iraqi paramilitary. hondas speaking at a funeral ceremony in beirut as bold as lida says president trump committed a crime by assassinating so all the money house and those rather says his death
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marks a new chapter in the middle east have a listen. i'm not telling him trump is the one who said i gave the order to assassinate we are not facing an ambiguous crime a car bomb a suicide attack or whatever we need inquiries we are in front of a clear cut crime trump gave the orders to kill the u.s. president gave his order to the american army to execute this crime and they have done just not now at the same hour as we've been discussing an extraordinary session of palm began in iraq the caretaker prime minister abdul abdul mahdi urging the country to take urgent measures to end the presence of foreign troops in the country. now meanwhile hundreds of thousands of boarders have gathered in iran to welcome on the body of customs although bonnie so the money's body has now arrived in the holy city of mashad after an early a procession the was and would later be flown to tehran. in an interview
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with the hizbollah through the television channel saw the bodies daughters said that she has no doubt there will be retaliation for father's day. clinton could move to before anything i'd like to send my greetings to the supreme leader ayatollah ali khamenei and also to the leader of the resistance uncle hasan nasrallah whom i know for sure will avenge my father's blood the entire world must marry the harsh assassination will not break us and america must marry the his blood is so precious. to us and joins us live now from on the phone so much happening door saw 1st i want to get what you've seen today with people paying their respects to customs all the money. one day here in my side of the indonesian province iraq is a turn out to pay their respects to spoke to many of them who were inside and on
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business trying very early to worthy waiting for the body asking someone to rely on our flaws and they didn't deserve a lot of 3 hours away because we understand the 60000 people in the southern city of. took much longer because they could learn too much time. to think of the season we spoke to in their golden shine on those audience as a result of that one back to the commander they never knew doing things like a father to them the country in little rock felt that people were very sad for me angry at being. president for making the decision to didn't. want her to move forward to set the terms of a reaction to the money wasn't just the person as a nation resigned father in their back who didn't hold their garbage can take the burns from those who keep. d the movie as large as a much bigger here and there this is much more than about just chambers impossible
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it's about a absolute in the government of this region that we're going to come a month. dorsett to that extent we've also heard from different people in the iranian government inside the iranian budget including the foreign ministry spokesman today who was saying that they were not just sit by while the united states bites these threats they've also being diplomatic channels. to criticize the united states the eats actions and its threats of retaliation to iran as well take us through what's being said at an official level in iraq. we've heard some of those moves are the mccormick truth goalscorers who would check that. first of all there was an effort to post the interns and there was a decision already named by lee. i got to sit there and walk along to the nuclear program to the nuclear agreement of 2050 because this is the lead to the
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1st week of january lock for the next chance to exceed a period that around the post under another system they found markets concern. they've said that they're holding an emergency meeting in the capital on sunday to assess their original program to make an announcement about what they're going to do x. now what's your number the last step that they took back with in november when they started their announce that they're going to start to fill their nuclear facilities into a bomb. because they became nuclear reaches facility and then promptly meaning little activity because. not if this is true from last year. second step measures to lose its commitment to this program it is important because a lot of analysts should believe that you all helping because the united states withdrew from lebanon always instability all the extracts all the rhetoric of all the. strait of hormuz all of these events are connected to because and by
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us all didn't volunteer to withdraw from new clues because that ensured. if you think one iran was going to open up its nuclear program to the international community for inspections it was going to be long in fact components to which a long was going to benefit from blue on the edge by any sanctions really sucks the united states decided it was an e-mail address interested for a nuclear and suddenly anyone who jumped on the. pros is sharing the crippling sanctions on iran from november 2000 people on board to me mourn and not a long ring to shelter or oil on the international market to loot cripple the economy because oil exports go the structure of directly. in from. iran even to the opec force supplier of oil a large fire war and so it was
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a very very good ship i mean we went from shelling of 5 a morning barrels of oil to roughly about between bond and 700000 a day we go home official estimates are around the revenue loss from that aluminum very very hard on the country on the economy again the president it's a very big but this is also what was that it was a pressure to iran because the united states to try to get she's going to be part of the not to crush or camp each it's going to the military establishment. she's showing her strength to talk about the. rhetoric of coming out of this not to take the mistrial and raise up a certain. small incident started occurring when it was stated clearly aren't you that menachem you're out. there already did she really did it i did it. for the foreground of the moment i lost whatever people say that this was really a turning point from where we've been told to watch because of all the after the
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columbine shooting children the cool 1 kids story initially compared to last thank you do us a dosage of are there on the phone from iran dosa saying that of course officials inside iran is saying this as a new era a new month of history that's precisely the message we heard as well from hasa nuss rama in lebanon who's been speaking about qassam solomon and he's tall called the american action a clear cry on he's still speaking let's have. this nation. national and then. when we say this will be our option we are fine qassam personally i envy him so i am happy for
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him he is in rest he is in p.s. he has done a lot in his life since his young age now he is 5 and then it's the sign for higher qassam to take rest he is slowly would rest in peace he reached the sixty's and we are not angry we are not scale. we. just saying that this rishis blood will never be invading it's the sa him to get rid of occupations because victory has will be decisive in short law with this precious precious precious blood and as with all our martyrs though we all love them we and you the fans of
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resistance men and women of resistance this is a are people of resistance you are the best people on the planet you are the great people on the planet will continue our way we will be victorious and that end of the day. i. am a little. peace be upon you all. what a lot he will but a kettle of. and that's where we leave our sonos role though the hizbollah leader who was finishing off that speech which is gone now for well over an hour to the people there of course commemorating the death of custom saw the money saying this precious blood will not be in vain and that there must be an end to occupation that those forces who resist occupation
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will be victorious moment morandi is the head of the american studies department at the university of tehran and he joins us now from the iranian capital it's good to have you with us mohamed this so much it's been happening of course we've heard from iraq and the iraqi parliament is debating whether or not to ask foreign forces to leave iraq we've heard from hazelnuts rather saying that the blood of customs all the money will not be in via and of course we've seen the 10s of thousands hundreds of thousands potentially have turned out today to play their tributes to solomon he's a body as it's return to iran where do things sit right now from your perspective there in iran both the threats from the united states the promise of revenge or retaliation from iran and what we're seeing in the region. i think one of the interesting things by the way the iraqi prime minister said was that. general soleimani had gone to iraq to speak to him
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and that he was supposed to meet general soleimani so the americans murdered and carried out an act of war and murder a senior iranian general and his senior iraqi general that was going to iraq to negotiate with the prime minister about issues so this shows clearly that the united states was lying about the intention about his visit to iraq and he was going in through the international airport just like when the americans bombed the iraqi soldiers and lied that they were involved in an attack which killed an american soldier when the iraqi prime minister asked american secretary of the plans for intelligence for intelligence he refused to give it to him so this just shows the intention of the united states the arrogance of the united states and the dishonesty of the united states at all levels and the americans by carrying out these acts of war against 2 nations the iraqis and the iranians have created this
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situation which is i think is completely unexpected the enormous crowds that you've seen in iran and more in just as importantly the more enormous crowds that we saw in iraq for months now the americans have been engaging in propaganda the americans the saudis them or ati's that the iraqis despise iran that the end they were gloating a couple of 100 people sell a couple of 100 people were celebrating general saudi money was murdered by the americans but yesterday we saw hundreds of thousands of people in baghdad and then hundreds of thousands of people in a cabin and then hundreds of thousands of people in niger. carrying the ball around in soldiers on their shoulders and carrying the iraqi is so so this is something that i think the americans miscalculated in a way which is perhaps unprecedented they united the iranian population the iraqi population how they would like to operate cept the american occupation of knowledge
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is coming there on that point that as you say the iraqi people will no longer accept the american occupation we've also seen people for months now protesting iranian influence and saying they don't want iran's influence in the country either when the iran iraq the prime minister talks about the sovereignty of iraq he is talking about the sovereignty of iraq is it not iranian influence or american influence. the iranians do not have soldiers in iraq this is the american narrative it's failed we saw how the rockies were carrying the the martyrs in the us who were murdered by the americans yesterday across the across iraq we saw how the political parties reacted this is an american narrative there are no iranian troops in iraq there are no you iranian bases in iraq it is only the americans who carry out attacks who have bases whose whose embassy is the size of a country the united states has taken the vast landed back at the which is the size
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of the vatican and set up an embassy this is not the bill this is not the embassy of a friend this is the embassy of an occupation our occupying force the iraqi prime minister tells them not to carry out attacks the secretary of state tells him that i didn't call you to consult you call to inform you when the iraqi prime minister says give me the intelligence that shows that these attacks were carried out by the iraqi population particular mobilization forces the secretary of defense of the united states says no. this is not the behavior of a friend of iraq by trying to scapegoat iran the americans are not going to get anywhere we'll leave it on that point thank you mohammad marandi joining us there from the university of tehran just just quickly. to get a comment from you just about what we've heard there particularly this question
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about the sovereignty of iraq. iran doesn't have troops in there but it does have proxies who fight iran's direction inside iraq if we're talking about iraqi sovereignty is iraq exercising that sovereignty. look absolutely i think this is the biggest question of all questions facing the united states and iran at this point in time it's not some kind of an issue in the abstract in the end of the day this is going to boil down to iraq because yes there is regional security there is gulf security there's oil in there's security there's american and iranian security but this in real terms is going to boil down to what's next for iraq and if iraq is capable of exercising that sovereignty doing a proxy study i mean in the abstract or an occupied style in the abstract of course they are and they're who they were before one of the more sovereign nations ever you know this is a nation that has centuries and centuries of history and even on their side out 16003 it happens instead of flowers salute so here we have we are still living that
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results of 2003 of the american occupation and of course of the iranian meddling in iraq and now iraq is facing that orton question is how does it walk govern how the how do iraqis govern iraq without the help yet stash dependency on either iran or the united minute i think if we can keep it just to just just under that. is this the united states intention those who don't trump who said that he doesn't want to be fighting in the wars he doesn't want to be in the middle east would he like to get out is this something that might appeal to him absolutely the whole piece just that the 4 hour online about why one of the ways to understand what is going on is to understand in the context for example of how the united states assassinated the and the right after that deployed out of syria most of syria and now after the assassination of customs to the money the united states especially a person from that thinks as
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a businessman he thinks there is no point of throwing good money after bad and that the investment in iraq the blunder in iraq was a bad deal a bad drop for the united states and he would like to see it ending like he'd like to see the war in afghanistan end like he'd like to see the war in syria and. i think now iraq is up for grabs and after the vote in the parliament yeah we probably see a diminished u.s. presence in iraq thank you mon this hour joining us there of course we've been giving you rolling coverage of these events we've seen today the iraqi parliament right now debating a motion to ask foreign forces particularly american forces to leave iraq which would be a very significant development we're going to chain you to follow that the news continues here on al jazeera right after the incident last. tool to al jazeera we were told to get to the ministry of ration has this been
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